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Posted: 1 years ago
#41

Arjun's interrogation of Savitri while playing the Challenge card game was a good idea for a scene. However, Savi telling Arjun that she was suicidal still makes no sense.


The lie that Naresh is marrying another woman after promising to marry Savitri disagrees with Savi's pretense that Naresh was calling her all the time and she wanted him to back off. Both reasons to break up seem odd after the laughter and hand-holding that Arjun saw between Savi and Naresh just a week ago.


It's interesting that Balaram wants Arjun dead or seriously injured to the point that he can't fight back. Does Vishvambhar's plan include the same fate for Arjun?


We also got to see that previously vacuous and vain Shali is shrewd and unemotional about Balaram's adulteries, and yet he lied about where he had been. Would Shali ever turn against Balaram?

Posted: 1 years ago
#42

Savi continues to get distracted from her goal. "Level" used to mean robbing the rich to redistribute wealth to the poor. Now, it extends to poisoning Shali as payback because she attempted to poison Arjun ... and also poisoning Nanda whom she presumes guilty by association with Shali.


Savi mistakenly believes that the poisoning attempt is related to the ambush. Why not tell Arjun about it? Isn't this her chance to convince Arjun that she's loyal and trustworthy, protecting his life? What will Savi accomplish by taking revenge for Arjun behind his back?


Wouldn't Savi think that the poison was meant to kill Arjun, just as the ambush could have killed him with a few more blows to the head? How can Savi just assume that "Poisonous Content 0.000" means that she won't kill anyone with however many drops? If Shali or Nanda drops dead, there will be an investigation and Dipu will be the prime suspect.


Shali had asked Dipu for some of Arjun's soup presumably so that she could offer it as evidence when Arjun developed symptoms. Savi could guess that Shali's plan was to frame her for poisoning Arjun. Now Savi and Dipu are actually guilty of poisoning two people. Why wouldn't Shali and Nanda accuse them?


Even supposing that it was necessary to poison Shali and Nanda, why would Savi decide to do it through soup, instead of adding poison to another dish that they wouldn't suspect? When Dipu brought the soup and claimed that it was freshly made, how could Shali and Nanda believe him and eat it? Anyone would have suspected that Dipu made more soup in the same pot, or reheated Arjun's leftovers, and anyone would not have taken the risk of consuming traces of poison. However, now that Shali and Nanda have eaten the soup and are feeling symptoms, why won't they call the police? There's no proof that the poison belongs to Nanda, and they have no doubt that Dipu gave them a return gift.


I wonder if Savi speaks German too? If so, she made a pun when she said, "return gift."

Posted: 1 years ago
#43

Until today, Arjun's cruelty was always motivated by some evil that he was fighting. It wasn't always rational - for example, forbidding Priya to attend college was an overreaction to sexual assault, and making Savitri pay for a party that she couldn't afford didn't teach her not to give money to a drunk. However, even when Arjun stabbed Ganapat's hand with the fork, it was payback for Ganapat injuring the watchman's hand, and Arjun made sure that his victim got taken to the clinic.


What had Naresh done to deserve being gagged, tied up, kidnapped, and beaten, with a bag over his head? Breaking up with a girlfriend is not an injustice; it's a personal freedom like divorce. Even if Arjun believes that Naresh had his way with Savitri at the hotel, that was consensual, not an offence. If two people test each other as sexual partners and then one of them decides that they're not compatible and shouldn't continue, that's all right.


Whether Savitri thought about suicide or actually attempted it, tying her to a man who doesn't want her won't make her life worth living. In fact, by torturing Naresh, Arjun may have traumatized him for life.


The idea that a man has to "make an honest woman" of his premarital sexual partner is sexist and outdated. It's quite possible that Savitri will find a man who wants to marry her after she tells him her sexual history, just as Naresh supposedly found another woman.


Has Arjun considered, what if Naresh has also seduced the other woman? I know, Savitri made up the other woman, but let's say that when Arjun found Naresh, he also verified that Naresh has a fiancée. Isn't it worse for a woman's publicly known engagement to break off, compared to a secret affair? Which woman does Naresh have more obligation to marry?


How does Arjun feel about his father begetting him with Bhima'i when he already had two children with Krishna'i?

Posted: 1 years ago
#44

Arjun told Vishvambhar that if Naresh refuses to marry Savitri, they'll drag him into court.


Should viewers of Piratīçā Vanavā Urī Peṭalā believe that a boyfriend can be put on trial for not marrying his girlfriend?


A quick internet search enlightened me that a case similar to what Arjun heard from Savitri was dismissed by the Kerala High Court in July 2022. A woman claimed that after four years of sexual relationship and two abortions, when she found out that her boyfriend was planning to marry someone else, she attempted suicide and then got him arrested for rape. When he applied for bail, the charge was thrown out because sex isn't rape unless it is forced or non-consensual or consent is obtained by force or fraud.


However, the Justice in that case said that consensual sex could be converted into rape by failure to abide by a promise of marriage, if the woman's decision to engage in sex was based on the promise. This provision of Indian law can ruin the lives of men like Naresh.


In 1996, a woman launched a prosecution of a man who didn't marry her after three years of sexual relationship. He was charged with raping her (Indian Penal Code section 376) and cheating her (Indian Penal Code section 417). After three years, the trial judge convicted the man under IPC 417. It took another twenty-two years before the conviction was quashed on appeal by the Bombay High Court in December 2021.


The opinion of the Justice in that case was that refusal to marry is not cheating when there is no proof that the accused created a misconception of fact by the complainant (referring to Indian Penal Code section 90). If there's no evidence that the man didn't intend to marry the woman when he claimed that intention, it becomes difficult to argue that her consent was based on misconception of fact, and she did what she would not normally do, and her body/mind/reputation/property was damaged as a consequence.


In March 2021, the Supreme Court used similar reasoning to exonerate a man charged with rape under IPC 376 in 2018. In that case, the Supreme Court accepted the man's statement that he had wanted to marry the woman when he told her so and initiated the sexual relationship, but he changed his mind because his parents didn't approve.


After reading all of this, it seems to me that Arjun would have to look for evidence that Naresh was already pursuing marriage to another woman by the time Arjun saw Savitri leaving the hotel with Naresh. A case could be made that Naresh committed cheating: Savitri's reputation was damaged when her boss saw her leaving the hotel, her mind was damaged when she became suicidal, and this harm was caused by sexual activity that she would have refused if Naresh hadn't misrepresented the fact that he didn't plan to marry her. A case could be made that Naresh committed rape because Savitri's consent to sex was obtained by fraud.


However, it would be difficult to obtain and sustain a conviction. How does one prove that Naresh promised to marry Savitri, or that Savitri wouldn't have agreed to casual sex with Naresh?


Of course, everything that Arjun believes about Savitri and Naresh is lies. Nevertheless, Arjun could probably traumatize Naresh by having him arrested and held until bail.

Posted: 1 years ago
#45

Is Arjun above the law, or not?


Arjun broke Balaram's foot with no provocation, in front of witnesses, and Balaram didn't make a police complaint. However, a mere video of Arjun snatching Savitri's oḍhaṇī (which isn't burning in the video) and being slapped by her forces the police to investigate a complaint by a women's advocacy group.


Of course, we viewers know that Balaram had Arjun ambushed and tried to break his skull, and Arjun must suspect him, but Arjun's retaliation is not justifiable. Broken bones could have left Balaram handicapped for life, and that's more serious than Ganapat's stabbed hand, Mahendar's whipped skin, or the beating that Arjun gave the louts who harassed Priya.


Considering that teenagers and children may be watching with their families, and may get the idea that dropping a barbell on someone's foot is how heroes stand up for themselves against bullies, Chinmay Mandlekar should stop writing irresponsibly for shock value.


Neither Krishna'i nor Vidyadhar seems to care about Balaram's broken foot. They are all smiles as they celebrate with Arjun, as if one brother crippling the other is just part of being a family. Priya never seemed close to Balaram anyway, and Vishvambhar may be hiding his resentment as his plot to win Arjun's trust in Savi unravels.


Arjun saving Savi from the fire on Hoḷī and Savi slapping Arjun for grabbing her clothes were both recycled incidents from Jīva Zhālā Yeḍāpisā. When Shiva pulled the cockroach off Siddhi's padara, she didn't see him coming, it felt like she was being stripped, she had every reason to feel unsafe with him because he had drugged and kidnapped her and forcibly married her, and she genuinely believed that he was a sexual predator based on the incident with Saumya. Here, the slap doesn't make sense because Arjun was standing in front of Savi, she saw that he wasn't groping her, and she wasn't exposed by him pulling her oḍhaṇī.


As Arjun correctly pointed out, Savi had time to think before slapping him. What is she thinking, treating Arjun like a molester yet again when her goal is to make him fall in love with her? Already, Arjun shouldn't trust Savi after she woke up from her fake faint in his Pune hotel room and said that he must have drugged her to take advantage! Yet Arjun allowed Savi to spend the night in his hotel suite, and offered her a ride back to Kawathe-Bhairavgad. Savi should know his character by now.


What is the point of Savi and Dipu and Çamaki slipping cannabis into Arjun's drink? He's going to guess who did it, and even if he doesn't punish them, it will be difficult to fulfil their task for Vishvambhar. Their usual modus operandi was to drug the entire wedding party, steal, and escape before anyone woke up. In this situation of a long-term swindle, they can't afford to be obvious.


Unpredictability is good in moderation, but when characters' behaviour opposes their established motivation, the audience can't feel the tension of the task. This is just bad writing.

Edited by BrhannadaArmour - 1 years ago
Posted: 1 years ago
#46

Arjun clearly expected Savi to be disappointed that Phadake was back, and even remarked unkindly that now she wouldn't get to follow him around all 24 hours, and she can't appeal to Krishna'i. So, Arjun is well aware that Savi is trying to seduce him.


Did Arjun deliberately make Savi hear him saying to Phadake that he doesn't rely on anyone else to read what he has to sign?


Arjun knows that Savi brought him an intoxicating drink. He was suspicious before he took it, and so he made her drink it, bottoms up! Then he pressed her to drink more, pouring himself another glass. While she was confessing, he demanded to know why she had come into his life. All of this suggests that when he acted apologetic, as if he might have misbehaved, and claimed not to remember anything because he's not used to thaṇḍāī, he was lying.


By pretending to be unaware of Savi's association with Vishvambhar, Arjun can gather evidence of their plot and frustrate it.


Why does Vishvambhar's plot require Arjun to be married before he signs away his property? What are the "two papers" on which Arjun's signature would make all the difference?

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Posted: 1 years ago
#47

I guess there might be some clause.. Arjun has to be married and willing to give the property or something like that. 

Posted: 1 years ago
#48

When Vishvambhar first told Savi what he wanted her to do, she asked, what happens to the legal marriage when the scam is over? Ḍokyāvara paḍalelyā akṣatāṃçā bhāta karūna khāyāçā kā?


I've always suspected that Vishvambhar's real motive is different from the motive that he told Savi. He says that he wants Krishna'i, Vidyadhar, Balaram, and Priya to have their property, but surely he would rather have the property in his own name.


Vishvambhar says that the signatures are the purpose and the marriage is the means to that end, but what if his actual purpose is to get Arjun married? For example, Vishvambhar might be aware of an affluent young lady who is almost ready to propose marriage to Arjun, and by making Arjun a married man, Vishvambhar can divert the proposal to his own son, Pankaj.


I wouldn't be surprised if Vishvambhar wants to kill Arjun, the way Balaram tried to kill Arjun. Maybe it's a family tradition that each newly married couple has to climb the hill alone to pray at Bhairava-Deva's temple, or perform some other task in which an accident might occur.


Could one of the signatures create Arjun's living will with a do-not-resuscitate order? Could the other signature make Arjun an organ donor? What if the reason that Pankaj doesn't live at Bhīmā-sadana is that he's bedridden and awaiting a heart transplant? I know, the likelihood of Arjun being histocompatible with Pankaj is low because they're not genetically related, but I'm just brainstorming every possibility here.


Maybe Vishvambhar wants an arm transplant for Vidyadhar?


The fan fiction that I'm writing won't make sense without a motive for Vishvambhar to get Arjun married to Savi! I want Vishvambhar to write the maṅgalāṣṭakas for their wedding!

Posted: 1 years ago
#49

Filler episodes should at least make some sense.


Savi wants to make a good impression with her cooking ... with her long hair flying around.


Arjun knows what rassā and zhuṇakā are. He's aware that his mouth is tender. Mona Māmī has advised him to avoid spicy food today. Yet he sits down as usual and takes a bite, instead of asking for buttermilk or something soothing. Why?


Krishna'i, who told Vidyadhar that it doesn't matter from what sort of family Arjun's wife comes, should feel worried that her own family would make a bad impression on any prospective bride. Knocking a chair to the floor ... flinging a cup of water ... these are signs that a man will be abusive as a husband. Redundant signs, of course, when that man has already broken his brother's foot just to be spiteful.


Krishna'i exerts control over Arjun for little things like who should fill in for Phadake. ... She snapped at Arjun for telling Dipak to feel comfortable because a dog did. ... But Arjun's anger is a major issue that his mother should teach him to manage, at least out of respect for her, and there she fails. We also never see her talking to Balaram, who runs around town with his gang, putting up posters of himself, and comes home smelling of a woman. Who would call her family respectable?

Posted: 1 years ago
#50

Arjun's cruel sense of humour made sense when Savi had deliberately kept his phone from him all day before he told her she was fired, only to deny it when Krishna'i interceded.


It made sense when Savi had publicly slapped Arjun and he told her that he would slap her in public.


It was petty but understandable when Arjun threw Savi out of his hotel suite after she accused him of bringing her there with bad intentions, and after a few minutes he came looking for her. And when he wouldn't share a rickshaw with her, having just been arrested, but slept on the couch and picked her up in his car the next morning.


Maybe it was even understandable that Arjun was annoyed with Sontakke's suicide threat, so he spoke sternly, made him wait, and after personally loaning him the money, joked about interest before asking for blessings.


It didn't make sense when Arjun threw his friend Dipesh's bouquet to the ground, or when he drank water in front of thirsty Savi who had done the work expected of her, and whose story of a bus breakdown and walking the rest of the way he believed.


Likewise, Arjun telling Phadake, "You are fired!" was a cruel practical joke that his loyal employee of ten years didn't deserve while coping with his mother's poor health. Surely Phadake deserves better treatment than Miss Vaśilā!


Phadake earned his promotion, and Arjun had no right to spoil the moment by making him feel relief instead of pure pride in his accomplishment.


Incidentally, I had to rewind when Arjun asked, "Are you deaforwhat, Phadake?" I am not deaf, just accustomed to enunciation.


How did Balaram injure his arm? As a result of lifting a weight over and over while intoxicated and fantasizing about Suvarnalata, perhaps?


On a lighter note, when Savi asked Vishvambhar if he and Mona had a love marriage, and Vishvambhar remarked, "To eka phasalelā Koṅkaṇa-daurā hotā ..." I wondered if he married Mona for money.

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