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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: rysohini

Bold - If this is a piece of advice from J to Ani, then it is fine but if this is kind of a disapproval/taunt from J, to Ani , then J has no foot to stand on,as it is as much her doing as Ani's smiley44smiley1


Also, even if Ani did comprehend , where J is coming from, with her Arshi didi jaap, there is not much he could have done, to help her with, except going ahead with what pleases J, i.e. marry her Arshi didi smiley1

Yes.. understanding....both of them realising their own side of flaws and mistakes that ruined their relationship...I want Jhanak to understand him as well only because his state of mind at that time was because of her only...if he is to blame for his actions...then she is also has her share of contribution for putting him into such a shocked mental state that made him do it.....

I am only talking about Arshi and marriage part here...

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Posted: 3 months ago

I agree with whatever you said about Ani...


But Arshi's distrust wasn't something unexpected for me.. it was long due actually, she just expressed it now... I don't get it why she wants to stay in relationship then?


But, on the other hand, after all this I don't trust these writers, today they are showing this, after few episodes if they will show Arshi all lovey-dovey to Ani, I won't be surprised... They themselves don't know what they writing...

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Originally posted by: vira76

So here is the thing, the way I see it now is that for both of them because of the moral conflicts they did not to accept the love, I still believe that. But itโ€™s also in past tense ! The emotions were felt but they were also rejected right away. By themselves and also by actions and words of the other person

One was getting married to someone else and another was happily participating above and beyond in it. Now their love has just become the painful memory to them , which they have decided to live with. And that is why in my Runak write up (which I donโ€™t know why I forgot all about today with overwhelming emotions) I said , they are two people who are not ready to accept their love because of whatever moral conflicts , MUs, reasons they have!

From the looks of it Ani has accepted arshi as a wife. And why wonโ€™t he ? He was going to get married to her that day! What is stopping him now ? So far even I thought he was trying to resist the idea and that was keeping our hopes up. But it turns out we were the ones who were delusional and not writers ! Their confusing dialogues and monologues kept showing us that side of Ani that wanted us to believe that somewhere if he gets a chance he will break the marriage. Trash writing here !

But he is extremely sensible human being and if he didnโ€™t not leave arshi in good times he will definitely not leave her in her lowest point. So now the question is what is going to stop this marriage ? Ani is overly responsible human being ! If Arshi does something bad to jhanak , I am not sure anymore if he will leave Arshi then also! As far as I understand ani, if he has to choose between and arshi and J , he will support whatโ€™s right as he is a logical person. But I am not sure if he will still leave Arshi based on that just because he is his wife now in his mind and he is way too responsible and kind for his own good! There will be again things he will consider like will J get blamed ? Will my family be ok with this ? Itโ€™s not clear to me.

But what confused me most today was - Arshi, her distrust in Ani at this point is very forced. So I feel like they are handing over this game in arshiโ€™s hand now. What she does will be importantโ€ฆ

While I am saying this , j feel this is an absolute garbage story ! But that is what they are showing ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿฝโ€โ™€๏ธ

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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: MMR2810


And all the time why only blame Jhanak...

She is obsessed with Jhanak, first thing she asked about Jhanak๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ

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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: MMR2810


KusumDola is not that bad .


KusumDola? Is it remake of KusumDola?

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Posted: 3 months ago

Unfortunately, for us , it is Ani's action or inaction , that drives the story forward. Coz the two sisters are worse, they propel the story, at least the love story backwards !

Yes, he is weak and he has been shown to be weak all along ! That's been pretty much his survival strategy, that he has equipped himself with , for 28 years now!

Hence the web of lies! And it somewhat runs in the family, if I look at Chhoton and his "Laxmi" drama, that he eventually twists in his favour!

These men in this family, do not have the guts, to stand up and say the truth or say what they WANT !

They are driven by parents manipulating them / instructing them / twisting their arms to get what the parents WANT !

And truth be told, we have families in our societies, where parents emotionally blackmail, manipulate , twist children (both sons and daughters) to make them do WHAT THE PARENTS WANT !

The emotional blackmailing starts with "Hum logo ne tumhare liye, kitna kuchh kiya, we sacrificed so much to bring you up!" etc.etc.

I have watched such children , grow up to be young adults and adults eventually, from close quarters and they are always left double guesing, doubting their own decisions , sometimes devoid of the power/ sense of taking decisions even and being indecisive as a result!

The childhood conditioning never taught them to 'man up' coz they have been conditioned to fulfil some one else's dreams and wishes ! Their marriages/future relations end up being disastrous for some!

It is so important for parents, to understand the concept of consent and let a child specially who has now transitioned into an adult, to just be !

For Ani now, it is, "Yes I love J" but big deal ! It is the same for BH ! They know Ani loves J but big deal ! So many people love so many others!

Ani will probably go through a journey from being a pacifist to a rebel, but he would need enough wind beneath his wings,enough motivation from J , to be able to do so !

There is a lot for him to un-learn, simply coz he is 'conditioned' in a certain way, to look at life n it's problems/situations. Some one needs to guide him and show him there are other ways of dealing a situation, rather than pleasing everyone! Maybe Minu?

Also, probably mis-treatment of BH at Arshi's and Shrishti's hands could help him turn into a different leaf!

The way he loved J, exposed his vulnerable self to her, he has not done to any other ! When that love got thukrao'ed , mujhe aj tak kisine itna nehi thukraya, he went bezerk, he has gone bezerk before as well.

If Arshi thukrao'ed her, he wouldn't feel such extreme pain, coz his feelings for Arshi were never this deep enough!

His way of showing his grievance is revenge from J , again an extreme emotion that he has kept only for J ! He is not spiteful towards anyone else really! Qki no one ever stirred him up, the way J did!

Side Note - Ani remembering the Mudur pulao scene, when Anjana says you did not trust J, shows how dischorded and disoriented the writers are atm as it made absolutely no sense !

Sadly, all this is fetching TRPs, keep Ani this way, sometimes doubting J's intentions, other times saying ILU to Arshi, is generating the needed hype, positive/negative doesn't matter ! Till the time, the TRPs don't dwindle, this crapfest wouldnot either !

The other fact, that can't ignore, is the Kashmir hug and SR dream scenes did not fetch the TRPs as much!That could have caused a nosedive for RuNak!

Originally posted by: PPak

very well captured Soyini - this is it.

What I would like but would never likely get is the acknowlegement that he lost his love not bcos something was done to him, but bcos he did not have the spine to stand up and 'be a man' if you will, bcos he was a child and did pda when he felt upset with J, becos he wanted to return J's one insult 1000 fold, and all this came back to bite him.

I'm looking for this. Even the flashback...he remembered the food req for his bday but not what he did on the day of his last meal ceremony to J. .

If he had acknowledged the truth, not continued along the path of emotional cheating and fooling Arshi intentionally and fessed up earlier, he could have avoided being in this mess.

Reationships break, marrying someone bcos your self acknowledged dysfunctional family forces you to, is no excuse for a grown man. He is hurting Arshi in the long run. At least if he had told Arshi he loved J but would stay with A since he promised her, I would have appreciated him.

Remember he tells J - their first encounter after she comes back to BH from Kashmir - mere haath me nahi hai...

uske haath me hamesha kuch nahi hai. Why would anyone want a fatalistic man like him? His monologue indicates he knows J loves him...that makes his agreeing to marry Arshi to satisfy one of the two at least makes him a very weak ghulam like he called himself.

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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: rysohini

Unfortunately, for us , it is Ani's action or inaction , that drives the story forward. Coz the two sisters are worse, they propel the story, at least the love story backwrds !

Yes, he is weak and he has been shown to be weak all along ! That's been pretty much his survival strategy, that he has equipped himself with , for 28 years now!

Hence the web of lies! And it somewhat runs in the family, if I look at Chhoton and his "Laxmi" drama, that he eventually twists in his favour!

These men in this family, do not have the guts, to stand up and say the truth or say what they WANT !

They are driven by parents manipulating them / instructing them / twisting their arms to get what the parents WANT !

And truth be told, we have families in our societies, where parents emotionally blackmail, manipulate , twist children (both sons and daughters) to make them do WHAT THE PARENTS WANT !

The emotional blackmailing starts with "Hum logo ne tumhare liye, kitna kuchh kiya, we sacrificed so much to bring you up!" etc.etc.

I have watched such children , grow up to be young adults and adults eventually, from close quarters and they are always left double guesing, doubting their own decisions , sometimes devoid of the power/ sense of taking decisions even and being indecisive as a result!

The childhood conditioning never taught them to 'man up' coz they have been conditioned to fulfil some one else's dreams and wishes ! Their marriages/future relations end up being disastrous for some!

It is so important for parents, to understand the concept of consent and let a child specially who has now transitioned into an adult, to just be !

For Ani now, it is, "Yes I love J" but big deal ! It is the same for BH ! They know Ani loves J but big deal ! So many people love so many others!

Ani will probably go through a journey from being a pacifist to a rebel, but he would need enough wind beneath his wings,enough motivation from J , to be able to do so !

There is a lot for him to un-learn, simply coz he is 'conditioned' in a certain way, to look at life n it's problems/situations. Some one needs to guide him and show him there are other ways of dealing a situation, rather than pleasing everyone! Maybe Minu?

Also, probably mis-treatment of BH at Arshi's and Shrishti's hands could help him turn into a different leaf!

The way he loved J, exposed his vulnerable self to her, he has not done to any other ! When that love got thukrao'ed , mujhe aj tak kisine itna nehi thukraya, he went bezerk, he has gone bezerk before as well.

If Arshi thukrao'ed her, he wouldn't feel such extreme pain, coz his feelings for Arshi were never this deep enough!

His way of showing his grievance is revenge from J , again an extreme emotion that he has kept only for J ! He is not spiteful towards anyone else really! Qki no one ever stirred him up, the way J did!

Side Note - Ani remembering the Mudur pulao scene, when Anjana says you did not trust J, shows how dischorded and disoriented the writers are atm as it made absolutely no sense !

Sadly, all this is fetching TRPs, keep Ani this way, sometimes doubting J's intentions, other times saying ILU to Arshi, is generating the needed hype, positive/negative doesn't matter ! Till the time, the TRPs don't dwindle, this crapfest wouldnot either !

The other fact, that can't ignore, is the Kashmir hug and SR dream scenes did not fetch the TRPs as much!That could have caused a nosedive for RuNak!

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Posted: 3 months ago
In Leena ji story leads never lived there life together..if you see Bengali version of ghum also like this they are having mu's whole story only they ended the story with the hug between leads at the end because third wheel itself cleared the mu's and they ended the story...I think she is much attached withe third wheel always white wah the third ๐Ÿ›ž show her as great..so we should not expect much...
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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: rysohini

Unfortunately, for us , it is Ani's action or inaction , that drives the story forward. Coz the two sisters are worse, they propel the story, at least the love story backwrds !

Yes, he is weak and he has been shown to be weak all along ! That's been pretty much his survival strategy, that he has equipped himself with , for 28 years now!

Hence the web of lies! And it somewhat runs in the family, if I look at Chhoton and his "Laxmi" drama, that he eventually twists in his favour!

These men in this family, do not have the guts, to stand up and say the truth or say what they WANT !

They are driven by parents manipulating them / instructing them / twisting their arms to get what the parents WANT !

And truth be told, we have families in our societies, where parents emotionally blackmail, manipulate , twist children (both sons and daughters) to make them do WHAT THE PARENTS WANT !

The emotional blackmailing starts with "Hum logo ne tumhare liye, kitna kuchh kiya, we sacrificed so much to bring you up!" etc.etc.

I have watched such children , grow up to be young adults and adults eventually, from close quarters and they are always left double guesing, doubting their own decisions , sometimes devoid of the power/ sense of taking decisions even and being indecisive as a result!

The childhood conditioning never taught them to 'man up' coz they have been conditioned to fulfil some one else's dreams and wishes ! Their marriages/future relations end up being disastrous for some!

It is so important for parents, to understand the concept of consent and let a child specially who has now transitioned into an adult, to just be !

For Ani now, it is, "Yes I love J" but big deal ! It is the same for BH ! They know Ani loves J but big deal ! So many people love so many others!

Ani will probably go through a journey from being a pacifist to a rebel, but he would need enough wind beneath his wings,enough motivation from J , to be able to do so !

There is a lot for him to un-learn, simply coz he is 'conditioned' in a certain way, to look at life n it's problems/situations. Some one needs to guide him and show him there are other ways of dealing a situation, rather than pleasing everyone! Maybe Minu?

Also, probably mis-treatment of BH at Arshi's and Shrishti's hands could help him turn into a different leaf!

The way he loved J, exposed his vulnerable self to her, he has not done to any other ! When that love got thukrao'ed , mujhe aj tak kisine itna nehi thukraya, he went bezerk, he has gone bezerk before as well.

If Arshi thukrao'ed her, he wouldn't feel such extreme pain, coz his feelings for Arshi were never this deep enough!

His way of showing his grievance is revenge from J , again an extreme emotion that he has kept only for J ! He is not spiteful towards anyone else really! Qki no one ever stirred him up, the way J did!

Side Note - Ani remembering the Mudur pulao scene, when Anjana says you did not trust J, shows how dischorded and disoriented the writers are atm as it made absolutely no sense !

Sadly, all this is fetching TRPs, keep Ani this way, sometimes doubting J's intentions, other times saying ILU to Arshi, is generating the needed hype, positive/negative doesn't matter ! Till the time, the TRPs don't dwindle, this crapfest wouldnot either !

The other fact, that can't ignore, is the Kashmir hug and SR dream scenes did not fetch the TRPs as much!That could have caused a nosedive for RuNak!

wen a person has a very difficult thing to confess it takes a lot of guts...and also encouragement from near ones help a lot...but on the contrary Jhanak constantly discouraged him indirectly and pulling him back.. though she had her reasons.so he was in a situation where he was groping for himmat and on the other hand he was being pulled back by her..now he is not a superhuman to still find the strength to confess...
here too i am NOT supporting him...but i am trying to understand y he did wat he did...and the same thing i expect from Jhanak...confession of truth in front of everyone wud hv made him a great man...by not confessing he proved himself an ordinary human...sometimes it is not easy to become great...

He is as flawed person as any of us...as a third person i do not want to judge him...because he was in a very difficult situation...i dont hv such a doomed life like him...

Sometimes telling the truth is not so easy...

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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: MMR2810


Yes he said..



Old hag - said dharmpatni thrice

Shrishti - tumhari pati

Shubho - JeevanSaathi


Ani - My wife..


Mein sirf tumhari hoon.

Bahu, ronak Lakshmi.

we should definitely kidnap ANI from that mental asylum. Poor guy I feel very bad for him. Now I understood his behaviour towards jhanak during shaadi with Arshi. He was desperately waiting jhanak to help him like how he helped her from Tejas at Kashmir. Jhanak never reciprocatedโ€ฆ how selfish. I feel really really sad โ€ฆ he is lonely inside and outside.
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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: Sampada_14


KusumDola? Is it remake of KusumDola?


No Kusum Dola was original bengali version of Ghum..

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