What the makers have made the show into. Scratching my head. There was only one intimate moment between the leads. Only J remembered their night together and Ani forgot because of paracetamol tablet. Now both forgot about that night and J forgot the entire past and who Ani is in first place. Now the only persons knowing their intimacy is BH wasis and Aditya ๐ฎ and that also because of the bacha track. Never seen a show like this. What a sorry state of affairs.
Originally posted by: KTHFAN1981
What the makers have made the show into. Scratching my head. There was only one intimate moment between the leads. Only J remembered their night together and Ani forgot because of paracetamol tablet. Now both forgot about that night and J forgot the entire past and who Ani is in first place. Now the only persons knowing their intimacy is BH wasis and Aditya ๐ฎ and that also because of the bacha track. Never seen a show like this. What a sorry state of affairs.
Yes...makers have dug their own grave..such a beautiful story they have woven in the beginning..now they are destroying their own creation for the sake of increasing episode count..
.. Viewers will not show patience again and again for repeated blunders..I fear trps will fall eventually and they have to go for shutting down without giving a satisfactory conclusion to Runak story or go for generational leap which again will not make any sense..
Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae
Here you go Rekha,
Its long post and so I am not making efforts to connect it to the very early episodes or past incidents... As I feel they are baseless now.. Just we can connect the core trait of the characters.. Like Jhanak for example who has the habit if pushing Anirudh to Arshi when he tries to open up to her. Doing the Arshi didi chant.Its still intact and more powerful. The Kolkata hospital track witnessed her Mahnta which was shown right from the start ... This Mahanta is always selective and misplaced ... And she always has habit of guilt tripping Anirudh to make herself feel Mahan .. I am surprised the girl who gave Anirudh that she will be called Dusari aurat was busy establishing herself as the home wrecker with much confidence and pride in front of a bunch of people in hospital.. The dil se pati, samaj mein wife, dukh ka patni, sukh ka patni.. I was just trying to forget this Jhanak who covered her home wrecker tag so beautifully under the poetic, scared love... I sympathise on Arshi.. How would she be feeling listening to all this... Oh yes, we can dissect it with they are not married. But Jhanak herself made it firm that Arshi is Sirji's wife as they are married Mann se..
How was she so bold to announce that she will come between two people whom she thinks are husband and wife. I will come whenever Sirji is in musibat..If Arshi didi isnt doing her zimmedaari, I will do it . Like seriously.... So whatever Arshi denies doing for Anirudh she will do it as a proxy wife... Is that what she meant... But that is it her trait is intact.She feels that is love, where she thinks her sacrifice as her greatness even if the Anirudh ia not happy in his relationship with Arshi....
As far as I look at Anirudh he took the freedom to open up to Choton the secret of his life, which destroyed his life to an extent, which made him manipulate his own family...the burden he was carrying himself...
The breaking news of Jhanak and I are married.... If he was not be open or was shutting the door to Choton why did he choose to disclose this truth bomb to him !!!! For Anirudh Choton is his friend, the one with whom he shares his life and worries .. Why would he shut the door to him...
Choton was always the same. He never gave Anirudh the much needed straight answers. He always spoke few things and important things in monologue.. Kab se he knew that Jhanak loved Anirudh and vice versa.. But did he ever make a point to talk it straight or make Anirudh realise...During uncle groom marriage , when he dragged Anirudh to attend the haldi., he knew both of them had feelings for each other.. Did he speak to him..off late he insulted him in public rather than making him understand and or speaking with him private.... Most of the times Choton was indirect and spoke half things ..If Choton had spoke with him direct many things would have been cleared....I never saw Anirudh shutting Choton ....The ad shoot incident Anirudh had opened up to Choton.All his life secrets were shared with him...but Choton always speaks half things , it is his core trait, which is intact. Today and yesterday he played it well when Anirudh was broken , he took the charge and questioned Shristi.
Yes, I agree on the philosophical note, Rekha. But with twist for Anirudh.. If he does something he is blamed, if he doesnt still he is blamed.. Same like his words , will he have to sign an agreement with viewers on how and when he can breath !!!!
The manipulation started after Jhanak entered his life.. It was for Jhanak and because of Jhanak.. And I always feel Tanuja saying " I cant recognise it is my Ani " Is due to this .. Arshi complaining "tum badal gayi ho Ani ".... He might have changed for her, by himself as for him she was the priority.. To build her life, to make her independent, to make her live with self respect.. Everything started with her and ended with her.
But unfortunately due to Jhanak's certain dialogues of unsafe, harassment, characterless, Tejas jaise.. He was judged by most.. And all his goodness was tarnished as it was female declaring it about a man.!!! There goes our feminism... She was saved by him, why.. She wanted to live with Tejas that is why she agreed to marry him back in Kashmir exam track.. And it was Anirudh who manipulated her to break the marriage... I was super suprised with this idea.... How can a viewer think like this.... He rescuing her from a womaniser was against her wish..๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
The hatred for Anirudh is real man....
Anirudh is a beautiful hearted human being.. He can never blame Jhanak for her choice of words. He asks for forgiveness...whether he is at guilt or not. The haq ki ladai was an attack on his dignity as he had no memory of the night... He stood firm for his self respect... remained confused as why Jhanak is accusing him, but the moment he heard she was sick he was ready ro understand her, may be she is right and asks for an apology. He has done it every single time unlike Jhanak..I loved how he stood for his dignity and at the same time his love for Jhanak was intact.
It is in this Kolkata hospital track that Jhanak said to Choton, I insulted him and may be that is why he fell weak .. But the apology to him is still pending. ... But these two have no issues.. For them its all about them ...But she was never judged for not repenting for insulting him anytime.. Why because she is female character ๐ค๐ค
I dont understand the concept of Anirudh is being degraded or butchered.. You have written in detail about the aag series.. I always stood by this. That is Anirudh.. But he was mistaken, why because he didn't run behind Jhanak as before to search.. Why would he.. He was in a situation. Arshi with whom he had long relationship was in hospital and the Jhanak didn't even give him space of why he was not trusting me.. She was thinking about only herself there too.. Sirji doesnt trust me, so she writes an open letter and leaves the place ... He let her go and kept search for her while taking care of Arshi.. The girl with whom he was about to get married.. Why is he being wronged here.... Because he didn't run behind Jhanak..
Had he run behind her, the issue would be he left Arshi whom he was about to marry and went behind another girl. ๐๐๐...
Anirudh used harsh words to Jhanak during the haq ki ladai track.... And what was she doing.. She even said Anirudh used and threw him.. So that is what was her opinion about him.. Even if he had Arshi in his life is this what she thought about him all along. Why didn't she trust him for not remembering the night...
She spoiled his life and did she apologise to him... How would she , as she is always right... Its the doctor's fault.. And then she was hit with tumour... Why would she apologise....๐๐
The confusion Anirudh had in differentiating between the love and like was his mistake .. He took time for it , even when he tried he was alone, Jhanak kept on pushing him towards Arshi with some weird reasons ...Maa, home wrecker, Arshi didi etc etc which she herself contradicted in the hospital confrontation with Arshi!!!
The moment Anirudh realised his love for Jhanak he tried his best to break with Arshi... And finally broke up from her... But is he being spared.. No... Now the issue is Anirudh is leaving Arshi for Jhanak and its cheating.. Funny, now that he has made it clear to his family and her, it is considered as a crime and lot of sympathy for Arshi, who left him in the middle of the road to die..a girl who lacks basic humanity..an ungrateful girl who forgot how he stood by her during her khuli aankhon wala come and was determined to make her walk and dance....
He is being accused of not throwing away Arshi from his home.....โบโบโบ And if he was shown to thrown him away, he would be judged on being rude to a girl......๐ค๐ค๐ค And it was never shown that they ever had physically Intimacy... Infact the writer had cleared it as they had a pillow between them.... and also cut the doubt from the audience about the long term relationships between Arshi by making Jhanak mouth.. how did you forget your first time with a girl!!!!
Anirudh throughout has been real and true to his self . The man with sympathy, empathy who stands with right , gives space to women, is concerned about the well being of others ,the one who cried for Jhanak when he found her unconscious ......he expresses all his core traits even now. The one with a golden heart, who become life less when Jhanak leaves him true to his feelings of Mein jee nahi paunga, Jhanak tumhare bina ....
We saw it in aag series, the robotic Anirudh... The one who came back to his self slowly when Jhanak came back into his life...
I always felt Anirudh core trait was always in tact however boring the script was .
I love this showing the emotions from a man's perspective, because none of the medium shows it.. Beautifully shown that men can also feel sad, they can be hurt, they have emotions, frustrations, why they are judged for all their actions.... And above all a man can cry when he is hurt... I love this, about the show.
About upcoming memory loss, it can make Aditya go back to his core of being negative. He was made so sweet to Jhanak , and shown bitter with Anirudh, but in Kolkata he has reconciled with Anirudh... He was initially introduced as a grey
Arshi, I had replied to your post recently my thoughts about her character.....about Jhanak too I had replied... I hope you have read it....
Tagging the girls whom you have quoted and tagged in the post.
Rekha, I replied to your post without tagging you..๐๐๐ค
The above post is my thoughts to your post in the other edt....
Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae
Here you go Rekha,
Its long post and so I am not making efforts to connect it to the very early episodes or past incidents... As I feel they are baseless now.. Just we can connect the core trait of the characters.. Like Jhanak for example who has the habit if pushing Anirudh to Arshi when he tries to open up to her. Doing the Arshi didi chant.Its still intact and more powerful. The Kolkata hospital track witnessed her Mahnta which was shown right from the start ... This Mahanta is always selective and misplaced ... And she always has habit of guilt tripping Anirudh to make herself feel Mahan .. I am surprised the girl who gave Anirudh that she will be called Dusari aurat was busy establishing herself as the home wrecker with much confidence and pride in front of a bunch of people in hospital.. The dil se pati, samaj mein wife, dukh ka patni, sukh ka patni.. I was just trying to forget this Jhanak who covered her home wrecker tag so beautifully under the poetic, scared love... I sympathise on Arshi.. How would she be feeling listening to all this... Oh yes, we can dissect it with they are not married. But Jhanak herself made it firm that Arshi is Sirji's wife as they are married Mann se..
How was she so bold to announce that she will come between two people whom she thinks are husband and wife. I will come whenever Sirji is in musibat..If Arshi didi isnt doing her zimmedaari, I will do it . Like seriously.... So whatever Arshi denies doing for Anirudh she will do it as a proxy wife... Is that what she meant... But that is it her trait is intact.She feels that is love, where she thinks her sacrifice as her greatness even if the Anirudh ia not happy in his relationship with Arshi....
As far as I look at Anirudh he took the freedom to open up to Choton the secret of his life, which destroyed his life to an extent, which made him manipulate his own family...the burden he was carrying himself...
The breaking news of Jhanak and I are married.... If he was not be open or was shutting the door to Choton why did he choose to disclose this truth bomb to him !!!! For Anirudh Choton is his friend, the one with whom he shares his life and worries .. Why would he shut the door to him...
Choton was always the same. He never gave Anirudh the much needed straight answers. He always spoke few things and important things in monologue.. Kab se he knew that Jhanak loved Anirudh and vice versa.. But did he ever make a point to talk it straight or make Anirudh realise...During uncle groom marriage , when he dragged Anirudh to attend the haldi., he knew both of them had feelings for each other.. Did he speak to him..off late he insulted him in public rather than making him understand and or speaking with him private.... Most of the times Choton was indirect and spoke half things ..If Choton had spoke with him direct many things would have been cleared....I never saw Anirudh shutting Choton ....The ad shoot incident Anirudh had opened up to Choton.All his life secrets were shared with him...but Choton always speaks half things , it is his core trait, which is intact. Today and yesterday he played it well when Anirudh was broken , he took the charge and questioned Shristi.
Yes, I agree on the philosophical note, Rekha. But with twist for Anirudh.. If he does something he is blamed, if he doesnt still he is blamed.. Same like his words , will he have to sign an agreement with viewers on how and when he can breath !!!!
The manipulation started after Jhanak entered his life.. It was for Jhanak and because of Jhanak.. And I always feel Tanuja saying " I cant recognise it is my Ani " Is due to this .. Arshi complaining "tum badal gayi ho Ani ".... He might have changed for her, by himself as for him she was the priority.. To build her life, to make her independent, to make her live with self respect.. Everything started with her and ended with her.
But unfortunately due to Jhanak's certain dialogues of unsafe, harassment, characterless, Tejas jaise.. He was judged by most.. And all his goodness was tarnished as it was female declaring it about a man.!!! There goes our feminism... She was saved by him, why.. She wanted to live with Tejas that is why she agreed to marry him back in Kashmir exam track.. And it was Anirudh who manipulated her to break the marriage... I was super suprised with this idea.... How can a viewer think like this.... He rescuing her from a womaniser was against her wish..๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
The hatred for Anirudh is real man....
Anirudh is a beautiful hearted human being.. He can never blame Jhanak for her choice of words. He asks for forgiveness...whether he is at guilt or not. The haq ki ladai was an attack on his dignity as he had no memory of the night... He stood firm for his self respect... remained confused as why Jhanak is accusing him, but the moment he heard she was sick he was ready ro understand her, may be she is right and asks for an apology. He has done it every single time unlike Jhanak..I loved how he stood for his dignity and at the same time his love for Jhanak was intact.
It is in this Kolkata hospital track that Jhanak said to Choton, I insulted him and may be that is why he fell weak .. But the apology to him is still pending. ... But these two have no issues.. For them its all about them ...But she was never judged for not repenting for insulting him anytime.. Why because she is female character ๐ค๐ค
I dont understand the concept of Anirudh is being degraded or butchered.. You have written in detail about the aag series.. I always stood by this. That is Anirudh.. But he was mistaken, why because he didn't run behind Jhanak as before to search.. Why would he.. He was in a situation. Arshi with whom he had long relationship was in hospital and the Jhanak didn't even give him space of why he was not trusting me.. She was thinking about only herself there too.. Sirji doesnt trust me, so she writes an open letter and leaves the place ... He let her go and kept search for her while taking care of Arshi.. The girl with whom he was about to get married.. Why is he being wronged here.... Because he didn't run behind Jhanak..
Had he run behind her, the issue would be he left Arshi whom he was about to marry and went behind another girl. ๐๐๐...
Anirudh used harsh words to Jhanak during the haq ki ladai track.... And what was she doing.. She even said Anirudh used and threw him.. So that is what was her opinion about him.. Even if he had Arshi in his life is this what she thought about him all along. Why didn't she trust him for not remembering the night...
She spoiled his life and did she apologise to him... How would she , as she is always right... Its the doctor's fault.. And then she was hit with tumour... Why would she apologise....๐๐
The confusion Anirudh had in differentiating between the love and like was his mistake .. He took time for it , even when he tried he was alone, Jhanak kept on pushing him towards Arshi with some weird reasons ...Maa, home wrecker, Arshi didi etc etc which she herself contradicted in the hospital confrontation with Arshi!!!
The moment Anirudh realised his love for Jhanak he tried his best to break with Arshi... And finally broke up from her... But is he being spared.. No... Now the issue is Anirudh is leaving Arshi for Jhanak and its cheating.. Funny, now that he has made it clear to his family and her, it is considered as a crime and lot of sympathy for Arshi, who left him in the middle of the road to die..a girl who lacks basic humanity..an ungrateful girl who forgot how he stood by her during her khuli aankhon wala come and was determined to make her walk and dance....
He is being accused of not throwing away Arshi from his home.....โบโบโบ And if he was shown to thrown him away, he would be judged on being rude to a girl......๐ค๐ค๐ค And it was never shown that they ever had physically Intimacy... Infact the writer had cleared it as they had a pillow between them.... and also cut the doubt from the audience about the long term relationships between Arshi by making Jhanak mouth.. how did you forget your first time with a girl!!!!
Anirudh throughout has been real and true to his self . The man with sympathy, empathy who stands with right , gives space to women, is concerned about the well being of others ,the one who cried for Jhanak when he found her unconscious ......he expresses all his core traits even now. The one with a golden heart, who become life less when Jhanak leaves him true to his feelings of Mein jee nahi paunga, Jhanak tumhare bina ....
We saw it in aag series, the robotic Anirudh... The one who came back to his self slowly when Jhanak came back into his life...
I always felt Anirudh core trait was always in tact however boring the script was .
I love this showing the emotions from a man's perspective, because none of the medium shows it.. Beautifully shown that men can also feel sad, they can be hurt, they have emotions, frustrations, why they are judged for all their actions.... And above all a man can cry when he is hurt... I love this, about the show.
About upcoming memory loss, it can make Aditya go back to his core of being negative. He was made so sweet to Jhanak , and shown bitter with Anirudh, but in Kolkata he has reconciled with Anirudh... He was initially introduced as a grey
Arshi, I had replied to your post recently my thoughts about her character.....about Jhanak too I had replied... I hope you have read it....
Tagging the girls whom you have quoted and tagged in the post.
Bang on ,Maya , exactly right in analyzing Ani's character and his actions 
Well articulated ๐ I have tears rolling while reading your post...Noone understood him even J ,who supposedly in love with him ..the most tragic character of the show...
J Rani enjoys her life with her udaan even now in an insane mode, no doubt .
Originally posted by: Jyotsna09
Bang on ,Maya , exactly right in analyzing Ani's character and his actions
J Rani enjoys her life with her udaan even now in an insane mode, no doubt .
Thanks Jyotsana... ๐ค๐ค
Yes, he is tragic character of the show, but mistaken as villain ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ
Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae
Here you go Rekha,
Its long post and so I am not making efforts to connect it to the very early episodes or past incidents... As I feel they are baseless now.. Just we can connect the core trait of the characters.. Like Jhanak for example who has the habit if pushing Anirudh to Arshi when he tries to open up to her. Doing the Arshi didi chant.Its still intact and more powerful. The Kolkata hospital track witnessed her Mahnta which was shown right from the start ... This Mahanta is always selective and misplaced ... And she always has habit of guilt tripping Anirudh to make herself feel Mahan .. I am surprised the girl who gave Anirudh that she will be called Dusari aurat was busy establishing herself as the home wrecker with much confidence and pride in front of a bunch of people in hospital.. The dil se pati, samaj mein wife, dukh ka patni, sukh ka patni.. I was just trying to forget this Jhanak who covered her home wrecker tag so beautifully under the poetic, scared love... I sympathise on Arshi.. How would she be feeling listening to all this... Oh yes, we can dissect it with they are not married. But Jhanak herself made it firm that Arshi is Sirji's wife as they are married Mann se..
How was she so bold to announce that she will come between two people whom she thinks are husband and wife. I will come whenever Sirji is in musibat..If Arshi didi isnt doing her zimmedaari, I will do it . Like seriously.... So whatever Arshi denies doing for Anirudh she will do it as a proxy wife... Is that what she meant... But that is it her trait is intact.She feels that is love, where she thinks her sacrifice as her greatness even if the Anirudh ia not happy in his relationship with Arshi....
As far as I look at Anirudh he took the freedom to open up to Choton the secret of his life, which destroyed his life to an extent, which made him manipulate his own family...the burden he was carrying himself...
The breaking news of Jhanak and I are married.... If he was not be open or was shutting the door to Choton why did he choose to disclose this truth bomb to him !!!! For Anirudh Choton is his friend, the one with whom he shares his life and worries .. Why would he shut the door to him...
Choton was always the same. He never gave Anirudh the much needed straight answers. He always spoke few things and important things in monologue.. Kab se he knew that Jhanak loved Anirudh and vice versa.. But did he ever make a point to talk it straight or make Anirudh realise...During uncle groom marriage , when he dragged Anirudh to attend the haldi., he knew both of them had feelings for each other.. Did he speak to him..off late he insulted him in public rather than making him understand and or speaking with him private.... Most of the times Choton was indirect and spoke half things ..If Choton had spoke with him direct many things would have been cleared....I never saw Anirudh shutting Choton ....The ad shoot incident Anirudh had opened up to Choton.All his life secrets were shared with him...but Choton always speaks half things , it is his core trait, which is intact. Today and yesterday he played it well when Anirudh was broken , he took the charge and questioned Shristi.
Yes, I agree on the philosophical note, Rekha. But with twist for Anirudh.. If he does something he is blamed, if he doesnt still he is blamed.. Same like his words , will he have to sign an agreement with viewers on how and when he can breath !!!!
The manipulation started after Jhanak entered his life.. It was for Jhanak and because of Jhanak.. And I always feel Tanuja saying " I cant recognise it is my Ani " Is due to this .. Arshi complaining "tum badal gayi ho Ani ".... He might have changed for her, by himself as for him she was the priority.. To build her life, to make her independent, to make her live with self respect.. Everything started with her and ended with her.
But unfortunately due to Jhanak's certain dialogues of unsafe, harassment, characterless, Tejas jaise.. He was judged by most.. And all his goodness was tarnished as it was female declaring it about a man.!!! There goes our feminism... She was saved by him, why.. She wanted to live with Tejas that is why she agreed to marry him back in Kashmir exam track.. And it was Anirudh who manipulated her to break the marriage... I was super suprised with this idea.... How can a viewer think like this.... He rescuing her from a womaniser was against her wish..๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
The hatred for Anirudh is real man....
Anirudh is a beautiful hearted human being.. He can never blame Jhanak for her choice of words. He asks for forgiveness...whether he is at guilt or not. The haq ki ladai was an attack on his dignity as he had no memory of the night... He stood firm for his self respect... remained confused as why Jhanak is accusing him, but the moment he heard she was sick he was ready ro understand her, may be she is right and asks for an apology. He has done it every single time unlike Jhanak..I loved how he stood for his dignity and at the same time his love for Jhanak was intact.
It is in this Kolkata hospital track that Jhanak said to Choton, I insulted him and may be that is why he fell weak .. But the apology to him is still pending. ... But these two have no issues.. For them its all about them ...But she was never judged for not repenting for insulting him anytime.. Why because she is female character ๐ค๐ค
I dont understand the concept of Anirudh is being degraded or butchered.. You have written in detail about the aag series.. I always stood by this. That is Anirudh.. But he was mistaken, why because he didn't run behind Jhanak as before to search.. Why would he.. He was in a situation. Arshi with whom he had long relationship was in hospital and the Jhanak didn't even give him space of why he was not trusting me.. She was thinking about only herself there too.. Sirji doesnt trust me, so she writes an open letter and leaves the place ... He let her go and kept search for her while taking care of Arshi.. The girl with whom he was about to get married.. Why is he being wronged here.... Because he didn't run behind Jhanak..
Had he run behind her, the issue would be he left Arshi whom he was about to marry and went behind another girl. ๐๐๐...
Anirudh used harsh words to Jhanak during the haq ki ladai track.... And what was she doing.. She even said Anirudh used and threw him.. So that is what was her opinion about him.. Even if he had Arshi in his life is this what she thought about him all along. Why didn't she trust him for not remembering the night...
She spoiled his life and did she apologise to him... How would she , as she is always right... Its the doctor's fault.. And then she was hit with tumour... Why would she apologise....๐๐
The confusion Anirudh had in differentiating between the love and like was his mistake .. He took time for it , even when he tried he was alone, Jhanak kept on pushing him towards Arshi with some weird reasons ...Maa, home wrecker, Arshi didi etc etc which she herself contradicted in the hospital confrontation with Arshi!!!
The moment Anirudh realised his love for Jhanak he tried his best to break with Arshi... And finally broke up from her... But is he being spared.. No... Now the issue is Anirudh is leaving Arshi for Jhanak and its cheating.. Funny, now that he has made it clear to his family and her, it is considered as a crime and lot of sympathy for Arshi, who left him in the middle of the road to die..a girl who lacks basic humanity..an ungrateful girl who forgot how he stood by her during her khuli aankhon wala come and was determined to make her walk and dance....
He is being accused of not throwing away Arshi from his home.....โบโบโบ And if he was shown to thrown him away, he would be judged on being rude to a girl......๐ค๐ค๐ค And it was never shown that they ever had physically Intimacy... Infact the writer had cleared it as they had a pillow between them.... and also cut the doubt from the audience about the long term relationships between Arshi by making Jhanak mouth.. how did you forget your first time with a girl!!!!
Anirudh throughout has been real and true to his self . The man with sympathy, empathy who stands with right , gives space to women, is concerned about the well being of others ,the one who cried for Jhanak when he found her unconscious ......he expresses all his core traits even now. The one with a golden heart, who become life less when Jhanak leaves him true to his feelings of Mein jee nahi paunga, Jhanak tumhare bina ....
We saw it in aag series, the robotic Anirudh... The one who came back to his self slowly when Jhanak came back into his life...
I always felt Anirudh core trait was always in tact however boring the script was .
I love this showing the emotions from a man's perspective, because none of the medium shows it.. Beautifully shown that men can also feel sad, they can be hurt, they have emotions, frustrations, why they are judged for all their actions.... And above all a man can cry when he is hurt... I love this, about the show.
About upcoming memory loss, it can make Aditya go back to his core of being negative. He was made so sweet to Jhanak , and shown bitter with Anirudh, but in Kolkata he has reconciled with Anirudh... He was initially introduced as a grey
Arshi, I had replied to your post recently my thoughts about her character.....about Jhanak too I had replied... I hope you have read it....
Tagging the girls whom you have quoted and tagged in the post.
Beautiful post! I have read @sanfan post too!
Excellent povs of Ani's character!
I just hope Leena keeps his core traits intact going further and I am still hoping to get a scene where he puts into perspective what his journey is till now and give clarity to all the assumptions people make about him and prove the understanding and povs of various viewers/fans of him to be justified and accurate.
As a writer, who made such a beautiful character whom so many people love, Leena needs to do justice to Ani's character. When you have the confidence to push the character graph to the limits and make people question your own work, you also need to have the sense and responsibility to clarify AND justify when the character is finally going through a major shift and don't just leave it to audience to decode it atleast at this vital turn....
Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae
Here you go Rekha,
Its long post and so I am not making efforts to connect it to the very early episodes or past incidents... As I feel they are baseless now.. Just we can connect the core trait of the characters.. Like Jhanak for example who has the habit if pushing Anirudh to Arshi when he tries to open up to her. Doing the Arshi didi chant.Its still intact and more powerful. The Kolkata hospital track witnessed her Mahnta which was shown right from the start ... This Mahanta is always selective and misplaced ... And she always has habit of guilt tripping Anirudh to make herself feel Mahan .. I am surprised the girl who gave Anirudh that she will be called Dusari aurat was busy establishing herself as the home wrecker with much confidence and pride in front of a bunch of people in hospital.. The dil se pati, samaj mein wife, dukh ka patni, sukh ka patni.. I was just trying to forget this Jhanak who covered her home wrecker tag so beautifully under the poetic, scared love... I sympathise on Arshi.. How would she be feeling listening to all this... Oh yes, we can dissect it with they are not married. But Jhanak herself made it firm that Arshi is Sirji's wife as they are married Mann se..
How was she so bold to announce that she will come between two people whom she thinks are husband and wife. I will come whenever Sirji is in musibat..If Arshi didi isnt doing her zimmedaari, I will do it . Like seriously.... So whatever Arshi denies doing for Anirudh she will do it as a proxy wife... Is that what she meant... But that is it her trait is intact.She feels that is love, where she thinks her sacrifice as her greatness even if the Anirudh ia not happy in his relationship with Arshi....
As far as I look at Anirudh he took the freedom to open up to Choton the secret of his life, which destroyed his life to an extent, which made him manipulate his own family...the burden he was carrying himself...
The breaking news of Jhanak and I are married.... If he was not be open or was shutting the door to Choton why did he choose to disclose this truth bomb to him !!!! For Anirudh Choton is his friend, the one with whom he shares his life and worries .. Why would he shut the door to him...
Choton was always the same. He never gave Anirudh the much needed straight answers. He always spoke few things and important things in monologue.. Kab se he knew that Jhanak loved Anirudh and vice versa.. But did he ever make a point to talk it straight or make Anirudh realise...During uncle groom marriage , when he dragged Anirudh to attend the haldi., he knew both of them had feelings for each other.. Did he speak to him..off late he insulted him in public rather than making him understand and or speaking with him private.... Most of the times Choton was indirect and spoke half things ..If Choton had spoke with him direct many things would have been cleared....I never saw Anirudh shutting Choton ....The ad shoot incident Anirudh had opened up to Choton.All his life secrets were shared with him...but Choton always speaks half things , it is his core trait, which is intact. Today and yesterday he played it well when Anirudh was broken , he took the charge and questioned Shristi.
Yes, I agree on the philosophical note, Rekha. But with twist for Anirudh.. If he does something he is blamed, if he doesnt still he is blamed.. Same like his words , will he have to sign an agreement with viewers on how and when he can breath !!!!
The manipulation started after Jhanak entered his life.. It was for Jhanak and because of Jhanak.. And I always feel Tanuja saying " I cant recognise it is my Ani " Is due to this .. Arshi complaining "tum badal gayi ho Ani ".... He might have changed for her, by himself as for him she was the priority.. To build her life, to make her independent, to make her live with self respect.. Everything started with her and ended with her.
But unfortunately due to Jhanak's certain dialogues of unsafe, harassment, characterless, Tejas jaise.. He was judged by most.. And all his goodness was tarnished as it was female declaring it about a man.!!! There goes our feminism... She was saved by him, why.. She wanted to live with Tejas that is why she agreed to marry him back in Kashmir exam track.. And it was Anirudh who manipulated her to break the marriage... I was super suprised with this idea.... How can a viewer think like this.... He rescuing her from a womaniser was against her wish..๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
The hatred for Anirudh is real man....
Anirudh is a beautiful hearted human being.. He can never blame Jhanak for her choice of words. He asks for forgiveness...whether he is at guilt or not. The haq ki ladai was an attack on his dignity as he had no memory of the night... He stood firm for his self respect... remained confused as why Jhanak is accusing him, but the moment he heard she was sick he was ready ro understand her, may be she is right and asks for an apology. He has done it every single time unlike Jhanak..I loved how he stood for his dignity and at the same time his love for Jhanak was intact.
It is in this Kolkata hospital track that Jhanak said to Choton, I insulted him and may be that is why he fell weak .. But the apology to him is still pending. ... But these two have no issues.. For them its all about them ...But she was never judged for not repenting for insulting him anytime.. Why because she is female character ๐ค๐ค
I dont understand the concept of Anirudh is being degraded or butchered.. You have written in detail about the aag series.. I always stood by this. That is Anirudh.. But he was mistaken, why because he didn't run behind Jhanak as before to search.. Why would he.. He was in a situation. Arshi with whom he had long relationship was in hospital and the Jhanak didn't even give him space of why he was not trusting me.. She was thinking about only herself there too.. Sirji doesnt trust me, so she writes an open letter and leaves the place ... He let her go and kept search for her while taking care of Arshi.. The girl with whom he was about to get married.. Why is he being wronged here.... Because he didn't run behind Jhanak..
Had he run behind her, the issue would be he left Arshi whom he was about to marry and went behind another girl. ๐๐๐...
Anirudh used harsh words to Jhanak during the haq ki ladai track.... And what was she doing.. She even said Anirudh used and threw him.. So that is what was her opinion about him.. Even if he had Arshi in his life is this what she thought about him all along. Why didn't she trust him for not remembering the night...
She spoiled his life and did she apologise to him... How would she , as she is always right... Its the doctor's fault.. And then she was hit with tumour... Why would she apologise....๐๐
The confusion Anirudh had in differentiating between the love and like was his mistake .. He took time for it , even when he tried he was alone, Jhanak kept on pushing him towards Arshi with some weird reasons ...Maa, home wrecker, Arshi didi etc etc which she herself contradicted in the hospital confrontation with Arshi!!!
The moment Anirudh realised his love for Jhanak he tried his best to break with Arshi... And finally broke up from her... But is he being spared.. No... Now the issue is Anirudh is leaving Arshi for Jhanak and its cheating.. Funny, now that he has made it clear to his family and her, it is considered as a crime and lot of sympathy for Arshi, who left him in the middle of the road to die..a girl who lacks basic humanity..an ungrateful girl who forgot how he stood by her during her khuli aankhon wala come and was determined to make her walk and dance....
He is being accused of not throwing away Arshi from his home.....โบโบโบ And if he was shown to thrown him away, he would be judged on being rude to a girl......๐ค๐ค๐ค And it was never shown that they ever had physically Intimacy... Infact the writer had cleared it as they had a pillow between them.... and also cut the doubt from the audience about the long term relationships between Arshi by making Jhanak mouth.. how did you forget your first time with a girl!!!!
Anirudh throughout has been real and true to his self . The man with sympathy, empathy who stands with right , gives space to women, is concerned about the well being of others ,the one who cried for Jhanak when he found her unconscious ......he expresses all his core traits even now. The one with a golden heart, who become life less when Jhanak leaves him true to his feelings of Mein jee nahi paunga, Jhanak tumhare bina ....
We saw it in aag series, the robotic Anirudh... The one who came back to his self slowly when Jhanak came back into his life...
I always felt Anirudh core trait was always in tact however boring the script was .
I love this showing the emotions from a man's perspective, because none of the medium shows it.. Beautifully shown that men can also feel sad, they can be hurt, they have emotions, frustrations, why they are judged for all their actions.... And above all a man can cry when he is hurt... I love this, about the show.
About upcoming memory loss, it can make Aditya go back to his core of being negative. He was made so sweet to Jhanak , and shown bitter with Anirudh, but in Kolkata he has reconciled with Anirudh... He was initially introduced as a grey
Arshi, I had replied to your post recently my thoughts about her character.....about Jhanak too I had replied... I hope you have read it....
Tagging the girls whom you have quoted and tagged in the post.
I think one of the major issue with the show is makers keep things open ended without explicit justification..a show with three characters intertwined by love is bound to raise questions related to morality and boundaries... moreover unlike cinema, it's ITV and females are put at higher pedestal and the major consumers are trp aunties with certain fixated value system..
I appreciate Leena foe introducing such an interesting, รงomplex character like Anirudh, that too in a titular based show..J is the titular but it's Anirudh who drives the soul of the show..so viewers have expectations from the character..but the problem since the aag track is Leena has stopped giving clear justifications for the characters' behaviour patterns..Maya, you and I can dissect the characters and try ttanalyse them..but most viewers don't do that...so to them, it becomes a simple case of cheating and betrayal...and the makers seem to have no problem with it...infact they ride high on this confusion of the viewers and generate higher trps..
Coming to Jhanak's characterisation...I always feel the biggest issue with her is she doesn't take anyone's advice and is adamant on doing things that she feels is right...however, she forgets that she is only 22, with very limited life experiences and a certain family background which puts her in an inferior position than the rest...to her, maintaining her twisted moral high ground is more important than accepting the reality...and in the process she has ruined Anirudh's life and his peace of mind completely...she ruined Arshi's life also through the public declaration of bachha..I mean, if you don't want to stay with the father of the child, then why claim for fatherly rights!!!
As I am repeatedly saying...I don't trust her judgements and instincts anymore..I want Anirudh to claim her as his wife and force her to accept the relationship..this will create temporary ripples in the lives of the three leads, but eventually will lead to betterment of all the three..
I think one of the major issue with the show is makers keep things open ended without explicit justification..a show with three characters intertwined by love is bound to raise questions related to morality and boundaries... moreover unlike cinema, it's ITV and females are put at higher pedestal and the major consumers are trp aunties with certain fixated value system..
I appreciate Leena foe introducing such an interesting, รงomplex character like Anirudh, that too in a titular based show..J is the titular but it's Anirudh who drives the soul of the show..so viewers have expectations from the character..but the problem since the aag track is Leena has stopped giving clear justifications for the characters' behaviour patterns..Maya, you and I can dissect the characters and try ttanalyse them..but most viewers don't do that...so to them, it becomes a simple case of cheating and betrayal...and the makers seem to have no problem with it...infact they ride high on this confusion of the viewers and generate higher trps..
Coming to Jhanak's characterisation...I always feel the biggest issue with her is she doesn't take anyone's advice and is adamant on doing things that she feels is right...however, she forgets that she is only 22, with very limited life experiences and a certain family background which puts her in an inferior position than the rest...to her, maintaining her twisted moral high ground is more important than accepting the reality...and in the process she has ruined Anirudh's life and his peace of mind completely...she ruined Arshi's life also through the public declaration of bachha..I mean, if you don't want to stay with the father of the child, then why claim for fatherly rights!!!
As I am repeatedly saying...I don't trust her judgements and instincts anymore..I want Anirudh to claim her as his wife and force her to accept the relationship..this will create temporary ripples in the lives of the three leads, but eventually will lead to betterment of all the three..
Perfectly put!
@bold: Exactly my thoughts on the matter! Leena needs to justify her character play atleast now, atleast for once to give a chance to viewers to TRY and make sense at the minimum...
If not she undermines her own show and makes loyal audience who actually try to understand her writing look like fools!
P.S:- I don't completely understand how this tagging thing works. So I'm tagging people I remember. Don't mind if I'm doing anything wrong!
I think one of the major issue with the show is makers keep things open ended without explicit justification..a show with three characters intertwined by love is bound to raise questions related to morality and boundaries... moreover unlike cinema, it's ITV and females are put at higher pedestal and the major consumers are trp aunties with certain fixated value system..
I appreciate Leena foe introducing such an interesting, รงomplex character like Anirudh, that too in a titular based show..J is the titular but it's Anirudh who drives the soul of the show..so viewers have expectations from the character..but the problem since the aag track is Leena has stopped giving clear justifications for the characters' behaviour patterns..Maya, you and I can dissect the characters and try ttanalyse them..but most viewers don't do that...so to them, it becomes a simple case of cheating and betrayal...and the makers seem to have no problem with it...infact they ride high on this confusion of the viewers and generate higher trps..
Coming to Jhanak's characterisation...I always feel the biggest issue with her is she doesn't take anyone's advice and is adamant on doing things that she feels is right...however, she forgets that she is only 22, with very limited life experiences and a certain family background which puts her in an inferior position than the rest...to her, maintaining her twisted moral high ground is more important than accepting the reality...and in the process she has ruined Anirudh's life and his peace of mind completely...she ruined Arshi's life also through the public declaration of bachha..I mean, if you don't want to stay with the father of the child, then why claim for fatherly rights!!!
As I am repeatedly saying...I don't trust her judgements and instincts anymore..I want Anirudh to claim her as his wife and force her to accept the relationship..this will create temporary ripples in the lives of the three leads, but eventually will lead to betterment of all the three..
Jhanak is the most weird fl i have seen in my itv history 
The amount of dressing down she gives to ani with her words is directly propotional to the amount of love she's willing to give him through her actions . Only his puppy eyes needed.
That's what I have observed so far. She loves him, wants him to love her too. She is totally fine with Ani living with arshi .....as long as he doesn't love arshi but her .....that's the only thing I can understand from her character till now.
Originally posted by: sowmya2407
Perfectly put!
@bold: Exactly my thoughts on the matter! Leena needs to justify her character play atleast now, atleast for once to give a chance to viewers to TRY and make sense at the minimum...
If not she undermines her own show and makes loyal audience who actually try to understand her writing look like fools!
P.S:- I don't completely understand how this tagging thing works. So I'm tagging people I remember. Don't mind if I'm doing anything wrong!
Leena doesn't seem to bother with viewers' expectations...we shouldn't forget she also runs the production house..so business matters to her... infact now I feel business is more important to her than staying true to the OG storyline she has created... that's why she doesn't feel the need to give clear justifications for the actions or inactions of the most followed character of her show..
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