Originally posted by: Krinya
Hi mili I can only ask you this , pardon me for my repeated blabbering ..
Can you describe her fear to me ?
She says " shadi ke baad tum saath toh rahe na , umeed toh thi na " , Matlab iska hai kya ?
That she fears arman might develop a soft corner for ruhi again if she's around ?
She fears she might not be able to stop ruhi just incase she tries to create a mu
She fears arman will never forget ruhi n she will always be the "doosri aurat" between them ?
In all the 3 cases , it's basically her mistrust on arman which shows, and her own incapability to take on ruhi...
Pray tell Me is how is ruhi doosri aurat when Arman has nothing to do with her n when did arman ask her to accept doosri aurat lol
She is basically repeating the same sentences in diff words in each episode ..basically she's telling Arman WHY they can't be together, but she's the one not going away from him ? She's the one serving his family , challenging them , getting into all sorts of troubles for his family but not be with him ?
What u said is abs right...now the guilt is magnified ..then what to do with it ? 🤔 it will keep adding up & Arman IS partly responsible for it ..so why not take decisive action and reject the guy once and for all ? He cannot control ruhi if she tries to cling onto him / contact him for every emergency ..yeah he can reject her calls & not see her & reject her case , but I dun see any reason why he should do it when his conscience is clear n he loves only abhira ? Matlab he can help anyone except ruhi..
Today why did she bring ruhi in between by taking up a case against her ? She cud also refuse .
Ultimately she will be with this same guy in a few epis , how will she justify herself ?
Good morning, Charu You know you can ask me anything, my friend Mere paas answer hain yaa nahin woh alag baat hainBut brace yourself for a lambi answer
Let me preface this by saying, I am someone who can't forget much of anything, especially if I feel I am wronged. I am that ugly person who also holds grudgesSo, whatever I tell you may be colored by who I am.
I also didn't understand her reference to halki si ummeed, because woh definitely halki nahin hain from what she was shown. Also the show and her gave a clean chit to Armaan with regards to mein and Ruhi khatm ho gayein after marrying Abhira. I don't buy it for one second. The show might want to gloss over, but how can we forget all of Armaan's kartootein ? May be this glossing over is the reason why Abhira doesn't remember in FBs now a days the video she was shown or his utterances such as " yeh humari bedroom hain" with Ruhi(I badly need a emesis emoji here, my friend) and countless other things he had said/done And she remembers only what Ruhi said about the gehra pyaar or daadi's reiteration about Armaan-Ruhi relationship.
Toh let us just say, yeh sab water under the bridge hain and Abhira wants to move forward. We can't ignore how traumatic that phase was and that we can't expect her to be soooo objective that she can completely separate out her emotions and doing the " right thing" . Behind the agony she was put through, and between her and him, there were two elements- daadi/maa and the biggest hurdle of all for any woman, Ruhi, the aurat who wanted to destroy the marriage and get in her position. Woh daadi aur maa ko bardasht karlegi, any how, either reconciling with them or rationalizing with them, but why does she need to reconcile, tolerate, engage with Ruhi at all? After all the nonsense Armaan put her through and after all the debacle, if he says now I love you but I won't be any different with Ruhi, woh kyun maan lein?
Remember Charu, we watched Dr. Rohit Sippy's show and we discussed the difference between answering a question on paper and answering in real life. I want to answer here also in the same way. On paper, if Armaan says I have no feelings, sorry forgot guilt toh hain, and so I will behave the same way with Ruhi as I did before, I will be on call for her 24X7, I will bend over backwards to keep her happy, content, clothed, fed , roofed, BUT I WILL ONLY LOVE ABHIRA then we have to answer, yes, he can do that. But in real life, there is another person in this two people relationship and her emotions and feelings are also involved and she says I am not comfortable with this " rightness" and " guilt directed actions", then he has to take a call- either continue with his guilt and appease his guilt OR he wants a real life with his wife Unfortunately, he can't have it both ways.
I am not sure what she is worried about. Do you have to be worried about something specific, OR in a marital relationship can one of them say, I am not comfortable with you engaging with so and so because of the history, I get PTSD seeing this womanBecause from where I see, Abhira is not uncomfortable out of thin air, she has concrete history and reasons to be uncomfortableToh, why should she again put herself in that position to see what happens? Who wants to see if there is going to be more drama or not?
Let me give a hypothetical situation, which unfortunately a lot of women go through from our part of the world and see I am make an analogy out of this. Kyun ki, I have a student this morning and I am sure she is going to cream me with questions and so no other analogy is coming to mind at the moment. We see how there are many households where the DIL is subjected to humiliations, big and small and can go all the way to frank abuse. When the parents in law become incapacitated, then it is a common expectation that the DIL take care of them. I know, I know, there is this norm, that the "son" for some reason has to take care of the parents, while on the ground situation is very different. The DIL gets to shoulder and pull a lot of that weight, I am not talking about monetary, but physical work. For example,The son is not going to wash his mom's underclothing , even if it is putting in the machine. I hope I am not hurting sensibilities of the forum and we get kicked out for saying this so directlyIn this situation, if the DIL says, I remember all the ugly deeds against me by my parents in law, I don't have any compassion left in me or the conviction to do anything for them OR I just can't bring myself to serve them or live with them in the same house. Is this wrong ? The society says IT IS It really depends on the kind of person DIL is. right? If they can forgive, forget and move past, they may be able to do all that. What if they can't? Should the DIL be shunned and accused of elderly abuse or being mean or nasty? Or should the son find a middle ground- because each relationship has it's own place na? It is not a pecking order. Yeh feminism bhi nahin hain, these are human emotions and feelings. Toh jazbaaton sahi yaa galat kaise ho sakte hain?
Coming back to Armaan, Abhira, an ex, who wreaked havoc doesn't factor into any place in their relationship- pecking order or not. Like how far is he willing to bend under the bhojh of guilt- if she is homeless, should he bring her into their home, with clear conscience ? If she is lonely( he is the one who left her), then should he give her company, take her to the movies, dinners, again with clear conscience? If she is sick at night, will he take care of her overnight, because he is the reason for her being husbandless? Ball is squarely in his court, he needs to make that call
As for trust on Armaan, that is what Abhira is struggling with right now. She badly wants to trust him, but doesn't know how. It is very clear here that love and lack of trust are not mutually exclusive. Like I love my daughter, do I completely trust my teen daughter? Far from it. I would be a fool if I didWith his integrity gone for a toss, it is truly upto him to create that security and a comfortable space for her with him. What she mentioned is also not unreasonable- if she said you have to prioritize me ahead of everyone( remember someone said this before), leave your daadi, don't do anything for Charu and he says, thanks for the offer, but no thank you, I would understand.
He needs to deal with his guilt in healthier ways than what he is doing now- giving in to it. If he is guilty, why should Abhira suffer from that guilt? I really liked how she calmly told him what she wanted and also gave him a way out by offering to remove from the equation, so he can appease his guilt as much as he wants toI truly liked how she dealt with that. She had no conditions, she only knows how she can be comfortable with life and be true to herself and she is doing that, no matter how difficult it isI wish all young women are able to do this
Yeah, you are right, no one can control other people. Armaan cannot control what Ruhi does, but he can control how he reactsIf he doesn't, then tough, he can't have it both waysLike Rainbow ji mentioned in one of the posts, if the role is reversed, is he comfortable with that? I can write this in great detail if you want me to explain myself here
I don't know my friend, if I made much sense at all in this gol gol ka answer. My tactics of confusing people when I don't have a straight forward answerTake an asprin after reading this, this is my free ka advice to you
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