Teri Meri Doriyaann Episode Discussion Thread - 53 - Page 12

Originally posted by: DanmeiLover

I partially agree. Sahiba's words were true but the way she approached the delicate matter was totally wrong and childish. It could've been dealt with in a mature way but she created way too much drama which trivialized the matter and made it look like she's doing it deliberately.

I know Angad did many things wrong . But I watched that scene repeatedly. He kept saying again and again , " Sahiba , stop . Let me handle this . " But nehi Madam ko to sab kuch khud karna hai.. Veer was standing there with a lighted match . Yes , he was doing drama and wasn't really going to set himself on fire , but Angad didn't know that did he ! Also Veer could've accidentally dropped the match and something unfortunate could've happened. Ofcourse Angad would prioritize saving his life over anything else at that time and it was the RIGHT call. Sahiba would've done the exact same thing if it was she at Angad's place and one of her sisters were standing there with a match in hand , threatening to kill herself. She probably wouldn't slap Angad but definitely shove him out of the way to prevent him from igniting the situation.

She should've taken her parents and Angad in a separate room and confided in them in a calm and mature manner. I bet the situation and every one's reaction could've been vastly different. When it comes to your respective in laws family , it is always best to let your husband / wife handle it. Yehi baat agar Angad keheta to Brars would've reacted in a much less volatile manner.

Also , instead of asking your husband to blindly trust you AGAINST HIS BROTHER , one should always be prepared with tangible proofs. Ye CCTV footage wali baat Sahiba keu nehi sochi ?? Hotels wagera mein cctv to hota hi hai..

If anyone comes to me and says something against my sister , I'll not even listen . I'll simply say , " Go away. I don't believe you. I know her. "

That's the natural reaction.

Problem is with Angad's slap , all that is also buried under the carpet. The focus is on the slap only and not how immaturely the situation was dealt with.

True Sahiba did beat around the bush. But I don't know if everyone would have the patience to call a few family members and settle a matter as this. It depends on the person. But my problem is not with the slao actually... I mean of course I believe that was his hidden male ego.. But at the same time I thought Angad crossed all the boundaries way before, when he yelled at her sorry bol, pulled her like some animal to the hall etc.... He wouldn't even have been walking inside that hall if it weren't for Sahiba.. I felt these were worse than the slap.

When everyone else does hall drama to bash Sahiba, its never an issue but when Sahiba does, how come suddenly we are looking for logic. Everything in this show is melodrama in hall. If we start comparing all the illogical crap and counting mistakes then Sahiba will have many- sure, but what Angad will have in his column is not just many many more mistakes but also crimes in that list. Sahiba nay have erred but she's never committed crimes in the name of hurt/rage/heartbreak. She's never projected her rage on people and has genuinely tried to move on but people keep treating her like a doormat and punching bag.

Slap is the least of his wrongs. He has done much more grievous things. The slap just shook Sahiba out of her slumber a bit but sadly she's gonna return to the scumbag in the end. But in the process we won't even get a half decent regret , repentance sequence for Angad.

Originally posted by: hellodona

Greedy and spineless Mongas because they didn't utaro Aarti of the man who slapped their daughter and is still justifying it. Slapped her for his abuser brother who he still couldn't slap. I guess if Veer slept with his Seerat or threw money on his mumma only then he will earn slaps. Molestation of other saali is clearly a small matter.

Angad isn't saving her. She was fine the day she came to her house. He asked her back and his mumma threw her in servants quarters and now his family is sending her to asylum so he can do mumma please.

A small point. Mongas never offered him to stay at their house. I'm sure Angad would've refused but at least they could've broached the question.

Court order no where mentioned that the wife has to stay at her in laws. The only clause was that husband and wife have to stay under one roof.

Why didn't Sahiba ask her parents to allow Angad to stay there and put that condition in front of Angad ? Kam se kam wo na to kare.

Originally posted by: Pinecone

So Santosh and Ajit are also pendulums like Brars. They also flip per convenience and are weak. Granted. So what?!

Does that make Angad look any better?

Everyone in this show including Sahiba has messed up at some point but are we really gonna compare Angad to everyone else and say he is bechaara and repentant?! he absolutely doesnt care for anyone except himself. and unlike the others who have been clear about their motivations and reasons, he does dhong that he is really righteous and loving and kind , respects women but its ALL a LIE. Period. He wants Sahiba as a punching bag. He cares 2 hoots for her. Sahiba has committed mistakes, Angad has committed crimes. Sahiba has had moments of poor judgement or perhaps been too forgiving to those who dont deserve it (including Angad himself) but angad lacks ANY judgement whatsoever.

He is a spineless, ungrateful scumbag.

He will do whatever he pleases and the world should revolve around him. If he thinks Veer/Gary/XYZ are not guilty, they are not, if he thinks they are, then they must be. If he gets angry its because he is heartbroken and pained but if others do, thats not allowed. If he hits his wife, its unintentional, if others do, then haaye tauba. If he speaks in a normal decibel- then bechaara he is so repentant but really he has not introspected for 1 second. He is just a DHONGI. He is giving takkar to Vanraj and Virat for the title of sabse ghatiya ML kaun. Vanraj atleast cares for his kids and parents. So Virat vs Angad- both the "heroes" of this PH are the most despicable!

Angad gets sadistic pleasure by abusing sahiba (just like makers)

If we apply logic then it cant be unilaterally. It has to be bilaterally and then yes ofc everyone will look stupid including Sahiba but Angad and Brars including Seerat will go down as both stupid and heartless infinitely more than Mongas.

Sahiba in my understanding is barely lucid enough to realize she should go home or to a hospital. If she realized or had strength enough to do so, she'd not be easily packed off to a mental asylum in upcoming .

No one watching this show can say any character is dudh ka dhula. But if we start comparing the magnitude of BS and mistakes, Sahiba will pale in comparison to Angad.

He's so far gone in his toxicity that Sahiba is obviously gonna have the audience sympathy.

But i think everyone agrees that Sahiba is stupid because she's ignored all the red flags to stay with Angad and now is bearing the consequences.

Originally posted by: Pinecone

If we apply logic then it cant be unilaterally. It has to be bilaterally and then yes ofc everyone will look stupid including Sahiba but Angad and Brars including Seerat will go down as both stupid and heartless infinitely more than Mongas.

Sahiba in my understanding is barely lucid enough to realize she should go home or to a hospital. If she realized or had strength enough to do so, she'd not be easily packed off to a mental asylum in upcoming .

No one watching this show can say any character is dudh ka dhula. But if we start comparing the magnitude of BS and mistakes, Sahiba will pale in comparison to Angad.

He's so far gone in his toxicity that Sahiba is obviously gonna have the audience sympathy.

But i think everyone agrees that Sahiba is stupid because she's ignored all the red flags to stay with Angad and now is bearing the consequences.

@ Bold, that's the situation now. But she got tons of time to leave the house before that . For e.g, when Jasleen came to her to feed her , from her words it's clear that she has understood something strange is happening here. She knows Angad , basically her only support , is out of the house and rest of the Brars including her sister don't care even if she drops dead. So why stay back at a situation where she has no support. Atleast call your parents. I call my parents 4 times a day when I'm out of town so that they know about my whereabouts and what's happening.

That's what I'm saying . If we want to judge harshly we need to judge harshly all the characters. If we need to apply logic , it should be applied to all the characters.

Everything in this show and all our expectations hinges on Angad and Angad only. Other characters are barely there to give lip service.

Did Keerat ask Angad to hand Veer over to the police ?? Victim ke statement ke bina wo possible hi nehi. Also , victim herself doesn't want that. I got the clear impression that Keerat simply wants nothing to do with Veer anymore.

Also, Angad ko laga Sahiba is behaving weirdly because of stress .

It's what he said to his mother . " No she's not doing all these for my attention. She's under stress. "

He believes it's all because of the Keerat - Veer fiasco that Sahiba is under stress. So to cure her he's to solve the matter of Keerat and Veer. That's why he's focusing on it.

Originally posted by: DanmeiLover

I partially agree. Sahiba's words were true but the way she approached the delicate matter was totally wrong and childish. It could've been dealt with in a mature way but she created way too much drama which trivialized the matter and made it look like she's doing it deliberately.

I know Angad did many things wrong . But I watched that scene repeatedly. He kept saying again and again , " Sahiba , stop . Let me handle this . " But nehi Madam ko to sab kuch khud karna hai.. Veer was standing there with a lighted match . Yes , he was doing drama and wasn't really going to set himself on fire , but Angad didn't know that did he ! Also Veer could've accidentally dropped the match and something unfortunate could've happened. Ofcourse Angad would prioritize saving his life over anything else at that time and it was the RIGHT call. Sahiba would've done the exact same thing if it was she at Angad's place and one of her sisters were standing there with a match in hand , threatening to kill herself. She probably wouldn't slap Angad but definitely shove him out of the way to prevent him from igniting the situation.

She should've taken her parents and Angad in a separate room and confided in them in a calm and mature manner. I bet the situation and every one's reaction could've been vastly different. When it comes to your respective in laws family , it is always best to let your husband / wife handle it. Yehi baat agar Angad keheta to Brars would've reacted in a much less volatile manner.

Also , instead of asking your husband to blindly trust you AGAINST HIS BROTHER , one should always be prepared with tangible proofs. Ye CCTV footage wali baat Sahiba keu nehi sochi ?? Hotels wagera mein cctv to hota hi hai..

If anyone comes to me and says something against my sister , I'll not even listen . I'll simply say , " Go away. I don't believe you. I know her. "

That's the natural reaction.

Problem is with Angad's slap , all that is also buried under the carpet. The focus is on the slap only and not how immaturely the situation was dealt with.

I have been saying the same thing, Suppose angad come and say to sahiba your sister is sleeping with garry or relationship with garry lets cancel marriage what will sahiba reaction?????

Iam not saying anagd is right??? Here he did wrong not handle his temper.. But that is unintentional he did regret and acknowledged it...its not like he ignored it and keep quiet..

If everything cools down will Sahiba acknowledge her mistake for not handling situation I doubt it.

.Baras and moongas elders are useless and oppustunists..

Here writers are repeatedly doing the same mistake they do start with Sahiba and ended up with Anagd.. Every time each and every track snince garry exposure..

Originally posted by: DanmeiLover

A small point. Mongas never offered him to stay at their house. I'm sure Angad would've refused but at least they could've broached the question.

Court order no where mentioned that the wife has to stay at her in laws. The only clause was that husband and wife have to stay under one roof.

Why didn't Sahiba ask her parents to allow Angad to stay there and put that condition in front of Angad ? Kam se kam wo na to kare.

Cause they know Angad won't dirty himself by staying with them. Manveer will cause a few accidents. Mongas are telling Angad slapping wife is wrong, he is still playing victim and giving reasons why he slapped. No point wasting time asking for something you won't get

Originally posted by: arnavkushi14

I have been saying the same thing, Suppose angad come and say to sahiba your sister is sleeping with garry or relationship with garry lets cancel marriage what will sahiba reaction?????

Sahiba will point blank refuse to believe him and say how could you even say such a thing about my sister ..

Also Veer didn't have a bad reputation from the get go. He was an adorable character in the beginning. I still remember how cutely he and Gurleen came to see Sahiba's little temple of sorts when she painted Baba ji ka portrait .

So it's not like he'd a bad reputation like Garry to begin with.

Iam not saying anagd is right??? Here he did wrong not handle his temper.. But that is unintentional he did regret and acknowledged it...its not like he ignored it and keep quiet..

No one is saying Angad is right. He himself isn't saying that . He's repeatedly saying he's wrong and saying sorry for it . He said it's not his galti but gunnah.

But that doesn't automatically nullify the part others played or didn't play.

Suddenly the burden of bringing Veer to justice falls on him only , when victim and her family don't even want that. Veer knows that too , that's why he's such a unrepentant attitude.

why'd Angad slap Veer ? Keerat and Mongas ke pas hath pair nehi hai kya ?? Wo bhi to slap kar sakte hai ? He brought Veer at thwie door step and asked them what should be the next step .

usme bhi usi ki galti hai ki Keerat basically said she doesn't want any thing more to be done about the incident.

If everything cools down will Sahuba acknowledge her mistake for not handling situation I doubt it.

.Baras are moongas elders are useless and oppustunists..

Here writers are repeatedly doing the same mistake they do a art with Sahiba and ended up with Anagd.. Every time each and every track snuce harry exposure..

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Originally posted by: DanmeiLover

@ Bold, that's the situation now. But she got tons of time to leave the house before that . For e.g, when Jasleen came to her to feed her , from her words it's clear that she has understood something strange is happening here. She knows Angad , basically her only support , is out of the house and rest of the Brars including her sister don't care even if she drops dead. So why stay back at a situation where she has no support. Atleast call your parents. I call my parents 4 times a day when I'm out of town so that they know about my whereabouts and what's happening.

That's what I'm saying . If we want to judge harshly we need to judge harshly all the characters. If we need to apply logic , it should be applied to all the characters.

Everything in this show and all our expectations hinges on Angad and Angad only. Other characters are barely there to give lip service.

Did Keerat ask Angad to hand Veer over to the police ?? Victim ke statement ke bina wo possible hi nehi. Also , victim herself doesn't want that. I got the clear impression that Keerat simply wants nothing to do with Veer anymore.

Also, Angad ko laga Sahiba is behaving weirdly because of stress .

It's what he said to his mother . " No she's not doing all these for my attention. She's under stress. "

He believes it's all because of the Keerat - Veer fiasco that Sahiba is under stress. So to cure her he's to solve the matter of Keerat and Veer. That's why he's focusing on it.

@bold Precisely. But my point is- even if we judge them all harshly Angads deeds will still be worse than anyone else on the show- especially Sahiba. He's done crimes, he's misbehaved, and then he's pretended to be mahaan despite it all. Whereas Sahiba has been groveling. So her mistakes cannot compare against Angads crimes. Seerat is a liar, manipulator- but so is Angad. Veer and Gary molested/assaulted- so did Angad. Bebe, daarji, others are archaic, so is Angad. He didn't want his wife to work and only approved education because it impacted his own image to at least have a graduate for a wife. Inder is an alcoholic, Angad has often done the same. Monga parents are selfish, money minded but so is Angad. Sahiba has been treated like crap and Angaf is still raja beta.

Sahiba for the few moments she's lucid while drinking soup would never consider that she's being drugged. Thats too extreme. And She's never counted on her parents because they can't do much anyway and they will just worry but offer no constructive solutions.

Its very likely that she herself thinks she was off due to stress and its not just Veer Keerat, its EVERYTHING happening for months on end. So she probably also thinks she can just sleep it off or something or she'll be fine once divorce is official - stress will reduce.

Angad hasn't done anything to actually relieve Sahibas stress because the "truth" of her words that he has now suddenly uncovered hasnt been revealed to his own family who think she was lying. And if he's such a do-gooder he can still speak to Keerat to file a complaint and say he will support her to get justice. And if she refuses he can still report it for due diligence and police can decide what to do with the info even if they dismiss the case because Keerat decides to let it slide. He never does whats in his hands but blames the whole world. But he is never gonna actually let Veer pay for his crimes. So he's trying to sort out the issue by forcing a fake apology out of Veer. But thats useless. If the end goal is to just let the issue go, he does not need to do hall drama in Monga house.

Angad is the ML, Sahiba is the FL and others are supporting actors who are treated like furniture. So obviously its Angad, Sahiba who will be most scrutinized. He has had the power to throw Seerat out- he didn't. He had the power to get Gary arrested despite Sahiba vouching for his hruday parivartan- but he didn't. He had the power to speak " calmly " to Sahiba but he made assumptions and forced her to divorce him. So why would Sahiba want to discuss anything with him calmly when their marriage is over and especially now after he has slapped her?

And between Angad Sahiba, Angad clearly has the upper hand in power dynamic. Until recently both Mongas and Bears treated him as raja beta and Sahiba as third class citizen. So if Sahiba could have handled things differently, then Angad most certainly could. His privilege, his upbringing, his power by virtue of being the man of the house and the CEO who has much more people handling skills make him all the more culpable because if anyone could change things and get things done - it was him but he failed and Sahiba despite everything, has managed to sort things out. Her methods may not be ideal but she saved the house. She may be stupid for batting for Gary but she was doing so only after actually seeing him do something right for a change whereas Angad batted for Gary and got Gary Seerat married and let Gary off despite all his previous crimes being exposed.

People who sympathize with Sahiba have never claimed she's innocent or hasn't made errors. But theres really no comparison between the deeds. Angad is SO much more wrong. Period.