Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai 10th Jul 2024 Written Update and EDT - Page 51

Originally posted by: Pinecone

So whats the issue of risking Ruhi gettting imprisoned. Why is that a problem? She committed a mistake and hence having a case filed against her and appearing in court is a perfectly valid course of events. If her crime is deemed to be so serious that she could go to jail- then she will. If her crime is deemed relatively minor she will get away with fine.

Ruhi and Goenkas are NOT her family. She respected MG as a grandad figure but what came of it- nothing! His bacchi Ruhi ruined her life and continues to do so. And he has never actually done anything for her to feel indebted to him or factor him into her decision making. she is upset to see him come and trash talk to her when she's only doing her job. It is Ruhi who rammed a car into someone after driving rashly on purpose.

When family and Armaan opposed her decision to support her firm against Kaveri because she was their ghar ki bahu, she still went ahead because that wasnt a factor for her. She took the case up because she felt it was the right thing to do. For her it was about getting to the truth and her firm was fighting for those who lost their homes and she felt that was important. She put it above any familial ties. So why should she care about MG who is nothing more than an elderly person she knows, when she is deciding to fight case for her mummas friend who is the victim party.

She's doing what she feels is right just like Armaan is doing whatever he thinks is right.

Everyone agrees Ruhi has committed the mistake so how is Abhira the unreasonable one when she says let the court decide how to punish Ruhi.

Ruhi ko court case nahi chahiye, She is scared, she is sorry is not enough reason to drop the case.

Why would you want someone to go to prison if their crime is not that grave? Imprisonment can have so many negative consequences on the person. A criminal record, negative impact on their future e.g looking for jobs etc dealing with other dangerous prisoners...I mean no one would wish that upon someone for a mistake that's not worthy of imprisonment. In particular, someone that you know and had a somewhat friendly relationship with at on point.

Issues for Abhira as well:

- risking her relationship with Arman

- risking her relationship with MG

- possibly risking her relationship with the Poddar family

she is upset to see him come and trash talk to her when she's only doing her job. It is Ruhi who rammed a car into someone after driving rashly on purpose. - No she is upset because she cares about Manish, and that she is the reason for his grief. This could have been avoided, if she thought about the case practically.

She took the case up because she felt it was the right thing to do. For her it was about getting to the truth and her firm was fighting for those.. just because she felt it was the right thing, doesn't make it right. It wasn't about getting to the truth, because even if she was not involved, the truth would have come out. It was her stubbornness and unreasonableness to challenge Arman and Kaveri that she was competent enough to win the case. It just showed her lack of respect and appreciation for the family. Arman tried to explain to her but she was unwilling to listen to him and had made up her mind that she was going to prove Kavari wrong, which in the end backfired.

Everyone agrees Ruhi has committed the mistake so how is Abhira the unreasonable one when she says let the court decide how to punish Ruhi. There is no need for that as Ruhi accepted her mistake and is willing to compensate the injured person. Why expose her to the risk of imprisonment? Her mistake is not grave enough for her to go to jail.

Originally posted by: hobbit

I don’t think Abhira would be doing her a favour if she had said I’ll talk to my client. Lawyers do ask to settle. That’s quite normal and Armaan was being very calm.

Although Ruhi was being v v childish and annoying when she was complaining to Armaan “maine kaha tha na gussa nikalegi”

Yes out of court settlement is a good option. But there's no obligation to proceed with that. Court jaana also is a valid enough option.

Ruhi neh khud hi provoke kiya hai Abhira ko by saying rubbish like "gussa nikalegi" 🙄

Abhiras clients did not insist on settlement either.

Abhira ko gussa hi nikalna hota toh aur bhi bahut kuch kar sakti hai.

Originally posted by: hobbit

yeah. Just having her license revoked and paying hospital bills should be enough. In any case, she’s a lawyer and should be talking more professionally. All those lines were unnecessary when she could’ve said she will respect her client’s wishes and will talk to her client. Then no one would blame her.

Yeah the emotive lines were superfluous and counter-productive. That being said, I don't think she needs to drop the case or go against her client's wishes BUT she should try to counsel her client regarding the benefits of settling out of court versus a long drawn out court battle. Despite all efforts to settle if the client still wishes to go ahead and fight in court then she can support him as his lawyer because there are instances where families refuse to accept compensation and want the guilty punished (especially in cases where there is grievous injury from reckless driving).

And who decides what mistake is grave enough or not for jail? I think her driving rashly on purpose and then greviously injuring a man is a huge deal. I dont think that only the mortality outcome of the accident victim decides the gravity of things. So her feeling sorry is not enough to negate her deliberate negligence and rash behavior. We saw that she was driving rashly and speeding long before the accident actually happened. She was driving as if she was in some F1 grandprix

If instead of Ruhi ramming car into this man, someone else had injured a Poddar family member- like Kaveri , would they not consider taking the offenders to court? Ofc they would. Armaan himself would have insisted on going to court if his dadi was hit by a rash driver instead of doing settlement.

It was Abhira who unearthed truth in Kaveri case. Armaans focus was only to prove kaveri innocent by using loopholes and legal mumbo jumbo. Dev also did not figure out the truth. It was only Abhira who cared about what really happened and found the real culprit. And Armaan also understood that much later and acknowledged it as well. That she wasn't against Kaveri perse but she cared about the people who lost their houses . If kaveri was really guilty then she deserved to be punished. But otherwise she'd be acquited and thats what happened.

Oh yes lets wait for her to again drive like a maniac , kill someone before we drag her to court 🙄 what logic is that?!

Court case and out of court settlement are 2 ways of handling this issue. Both are perfectly valid and reasonable options. Just because ruhi and goenkas would have liked settlement doesn't mean court case is unreasonable.

Abhira is definitely emotional but why is that such a big deal. She does not owe Ruhi anything to opt for the route of resolution that Ruhi would like.

Let her be scared and face the music for her negligence.

Paying compensation for all the losses is also a form of deterrence, imprisonment is not the only real deterrent. If she killed someone, she will be prosecuted accordingly. Severe punishment does not necessarily mean that the person will not commit the act again.

No one said it's not two ways of handling the case, however, the latter is not as practical or in the best interest of the client. Because she is overwhelmed by her emotions, she is unable to see this clearly.

She does not owe Ruhi anything to opt for the route of resolution that Ruhi would like - yeah she does because of her relationship with Mansih and Arman.

And who decides what mistake is grave enough or not for jail? I think her driving rashly on purpose and then greviously injuring them is a huge deal. So her feeling sorry is not enough to negate her deliberate negligence and rash behavior. We saw that she was driving rashly and speeding long before the accident actually happened. She was driving as if she was in some F1 grandprix

If instead of Ruhi ramming car into this man, someone else had injured a Poddar family member- like Kaveri , would they not consider taking the offenders to court? Ofc they would. Armaan himself may have insisted on going to court if his dadi was hit by a rash driver instead of doing settlement.

It was Abhira who unearthed truth in Kaveri case. Armaans focus was only to prove kaveri innocent by using loopholes and legal mumbo jumbo. Dev also did not figure out the truth. It was only Abhira who cared about what really happened and found the real culprit. And Armaan also understood that much later and acknowledged it as well. That she wasn't against Kaveri perse but she cared about the people who lost their houses . If kaveri was really guilty then she deserved to be punished. But otherwise she'd be acquited and thats what happened.

@bold - not true because both Charu and Abhira were severely injured when they were hit by a car, but no one considered taking the offenders to court.

Originally posted by: Inaya10

Oh yes lets wait for her to again drive like a maniac , kill someone before we drag her to court 🙄 what logic is that?!

Court case and out of court settlement are 2 ways of handling this issue. Both are perfectly valid and reasonable options. Just because ruhi and goenkas would have liked settlement doesn't mean court case is unreasonable.

Abhira is definitely emotional but why is that such a big deal. She does not owe Ruhi anything to opt for the route of resolution that Ruhi would like.

Let her be scared and face the music for her negligence.

Paying compensation for all the losses is also a form of deterrence, imprisonment is not the only real deterrent. If she killed someone, she will be prosecuted accordingly. Severe punishment does not necessarily mean that the person will not commit the act again.

No one said it's not two ways of handling the case, however, the latter is not as practical or in the best interest of the client. Because she is overwhelmed by her emotions, she is unable to see this clearly.

She does not owe Ruhi anything to opt for the route of resolution that Ruhi would like - yeah she does because of her relationship with Mansih and Arman.

She doesn't need Manish in her life.

And if Armaan is gonna let the outcome of this particular case impact their relationship and future then he should just ask her for a divorce and let her go. Ruhi is guilty of reckless driving. She should be punished for it. And him feeling guilty about what he did to Ruhi cannot negate her mistakes of reckless driving.

The quantum of punishment for a crime can be decided by a judge in court rather than by the lawyers or the individual parties.

Her client wants to go to court. So i don't see the issue.

Originally posted by: Inaya10

And who decides what mistake is grave enough or not for jail? I think her driving rashly on purpose and then greviously injuring them is a huge deal. So her feeling sorry is not enough to negate her deliberate negligence and rash behavior. We saw that she was driving rashly and speeding long before the accident actually happened. She was driving as if she was in some F1 grandprix

If instead of Ruhi ramming car into this man, someone else had injured a Poddar family member- like Kaveri , would they not consider taking the offenders to court? Ofc they would. Armaan himself may have insisted on going to court if his dadi was hit by a rash driver instead of doing settlement.

It was Abhira who unearthed truth in Kaveri case. Armaans focus was only to prove kaveri innocent by using loopholes and legal mumbo jumbo. Dev also did not figure out the truth. It was only Abhira who cared about what really happened and found the real culprit. And Armaan also understood that much later and acknowledged it as well. That she wasn't against Kaveri perse but she cared about the people who lost their houses . If kaveri was really guilty then she deserved to be punished. But otherwise she'd be acquited and thats what happened.

@bold - not true because both Charu and Abhira were severely injured when they were hit by a car, but no one considered taking the offenders to court.

Wrong examples.

Charu case mein the family were all too fixated on her affair to care about the accident. In any case Armaan blamed Abhira and not the car guy who hit Charu. So he already had a culprit. 🙄 So he didn't pursue it either.

And he clearly didn't care about Abhira's accident enough to search for culprit later on. There also he blamed Abhira for being too involved in the case stuff and said she was negligent and hence got hurt.

If he saw Kaveri being injured by someone who was driving the way Ruhi was, he'd definitely take action

Originally posted by: Pinecone

She doesn't need Manish in her life.

And if Armaan is gonna let the outcome of this particular case impact their relationship and future then he should just ask her for a divorce and let her go. Ruhi is guilty of reckless driving. She should be punished for it. And him feeling guilty about what he did to Ruhi cannot negate her mistakes of reckless driving.

The quantum of punishment for a crime can be decided by a judge in court rather than by the lawyers or the individual parties.

Her client wants to go to court. So i don't see the issue.

That's what you think, but not Abhira Abhira has deep respect and care for Manish and she would never want to hurt him.

Arman is not a robot - he has feelings and emotions too. Of course, it will impact their relationship in the future. Arman already feels guilty about Ruhi, so imagine if Ruhi goes to jail because he was representing Ruhi. Ruhi is not just any client for Arman, they clearly have a past and relationship. He is not just going to forget and not care. Just because he might not have any romantic feelings for Ruhi that doesn't mean he doesn't care about her.

Just because her client wants to go Court, doesn't mean it's the right decision for them. I am sure if Abhira explained to the client the risks and cost of running a Trial, they would not agree to go to Court.

Originally posted by: Pinecone

Wrong examples.

Charu case mein the family were all too fixated on her affair to care about the accident. In any case Armaan blamed Abhira and not the car guy who hit Charu. So he already had a culprit. 🙄 So he didn't pursue it either.

And he clearly didn't care about Abhira's accident enough to search for culprit later on. There also he blamed Abhira for being too involved in the case stuff and said she was negligent and hence got hurt.

If he saw Kaveri being injured by someone who was driving the way Ruhi was, he'd definitely take action

And he clearly didn't care about Abhira's accident enough to search for culprit later on. But why didn't he care enough? Wasn't Abhira part of his family and his wife? Surely he cared but didn't want to take action.

So if it's only Dadisa, Arman will take action, otherwise it not applicable to anyone else lol