YRKKH Issues Thread 2; Admin Note Pg#7; CMs Notes Pg#10 - Page 4

Not just GIFS and memes are removed but also videos.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/163785800

The tweet I had posted was removed, it did not have anything offensive. It was just a video of abhimanyu dancing from the yrkkh episodes. Also no reason was given of why it was removed.

The tweet that was removed: 

(1) :) on Twitter: "Nagada Nagada 💣💥 #yrkkh || #AbhiRa || #AbhimanyuBirla https://t.co/BAdJueKeOe" / X

Please tell how can a person dancing be offensive to anyone. 

Edited by Fantasyera - 9 months ago

My thread that was locked:

Kon kon jaa raha hai?? | Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai (indiaforums.com)

YET......

Goodbye Abhinav Sharma💚 | Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai (indiaforums.com)

I have reported the thread and put in comment to merge it with the already "existing thread of abhinav". But no action was taken. If that isn't biased behaviors than I don't know what is. Also my thread was not made to mock any members that not that their fav character is dead and they are leaving. NO!! 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/163716314

And the people who it was directed didn't feel offended. So I don't get what they problem is. 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/163781632

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Okay lmao. Last time I checked, DARVO, Oedipus and Electra Complexes were hotly debated psychological constructs. Literally hundreds of academic papers can be found on those. 

Last time I checked they were not noted as derogatory terms in Oxford English Dictionary.

If even then IF logistics team finds them offensive, they can add them to the cuss word filter — edited to clarify that this is a genuine suggestion and not mockery.

Also, just one clarification would be appreciated on whether or not any criticism of a fake fictional character on an individual level is considered a de facto attack on its fans those who do exist? Unlike hating them for their social background?

If I say that xyz is a such a drab character for always wearing black would that be same as me saying that I don't think that the character deserves love because they are un-hot/ poor/ speak in a particular dialect/ disabled/ lost a baby/ got remarried — all the social biases that affect the users of this platform?

Furthermore, does me saying that I hate a fictional character for wearing black clothes all the time have transitive properties to be interpreted as hatred for all the real people who like the character?

Is the character = the fans?

Someone's favourite character might do no wrong in someone's eyes while it may be a really reprehensible person in someone else's eyes. Mr. Knightley could do no wrong in my eye while someone else might hate him — again editing to add this just to clarify that I am not immune to this tendency and this wasn't meant to condescend or mock anybody or any fandom.

Bajirao Mastani can be seen as an epic lovestory by some while it may be seen as glorification of an extramarital affair by others. Can people be stopped from disliking and criticising a character simply because a large number of people love it?

Gone With the Wind— a  bonafide beloved American Classic is deemed racist by many African American scholars— many regular people also find Mammy character to be racist. Jungle book is considered a colonialist propaganda by many Indian scholars— again the idea of an Indian kid being raised by animals is highly offensive to some regular people like us too. (Clarifying this because any mention of scholariship is miscontrued as being condescending.)

Something as benign as a Disney cartoons like Scar and Mufasa are  polarising characters in the Lion King fandom. Over analysis and psychoanalysis are part of fandom culture. (https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/mufasa_was_the_villain_in_the_lion_king/)

 Are those interpretations to be shunned and punished because a large number of people deem these to be their beloved favourite books/movies/characters?

Certain issue seems to centre around not offending people while real social issues get mocked and platformed as unpopular opinions. If so, clarify if we should not use your platform or visit the forums if we don't like the most popular ship/character etc.

Also, please clarify if this thread was supposed to deal with issues regarding the YRK forum or about how much we do not like people who do not like our fave characters?

Because free speech y'know?

Edit because I forgot to disclose : the questions are genuine queries and not meant to mock, bash, bully,  condescend, moral police any member, character, actor, place, community, people. This did not intend to break any CoC. 

@bold

Very interesting discussion although it's not appropriate here so let's talk on this on the YRKKH forum, maybe you can create a topic Why Abhimanyu seems to use DARVO tactics. Add some brief explanation about darvo (Just to add context for people who don't know about it) nd give one or two instances through which you concluded Abhimanyu uses these tactics

For days I am hearing various things about regulatory body favouring some groups, I had no such experience so I didn't know how to contribute to this as I am not an old member but it happened with me too. A poster made a sarcastic remark mocking my views on Ak and I replied to her saying there are enough threads blaming Abhi for the death. My reply has been deleted but her original instigating remark stays in my thread. If her comment gets to stay so should have mine, either delete both or none, that would be fair. 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/163797710

Edited by SwatiSingh79 - 9 months ago

I have limited posts per day so I had to contemplate a lot whether to respond to this baseless accusation or not. 

First of all this is moderation issue and should have been raised in PM as I have been taught through hard experience. Secondly, I didn’t know making sarcastic post is offensive in this forum even when it doesn’t target any member. Thirdly, no where in the post I accused Dr. Sahib of causing the death of Abhinav. 

So, I fail to understand why my innocuous post is being dragged here to be touted as some sinister post and accusing me for something I didn’t do. 


Thank you.

Edited by Lostin90s - 9 months ago

My posts were deleted but there was something said by minionite in the suggestion comments thread

My reply to a post was this 

"Akshara is played by pranali that's why majorly are supporting her. If character was played by Karishma we would have seen." 

As per minion the reply should have been- 

"You could have said Karishma isn't as pretty as pranali and don't act well hence if she played akshara people would have supported her lesser"

Something along these lines. As per mod my reply was assumed to be a bodyshaming acting shaming comment and her clear cut post was better. 

.*** Emoji usage by mod for God knows what reason 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5327467

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5334615?pn=29 entire thread especially abhi is mentally unstable

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5326398?pn=11

Dickish behaviour by delta blue 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5327017

Calling abhi piece of shit https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5327110

words like oedipus davro etc are used as research purpose over a serial where makers dont have any clue what they will show next. as a proof of davro abuse arohi/akshara relation was highlighted which was opposed by abhi- during the time this same sister has accused the fl of killing her mom, ruining her career, being jealous over her life, finally hitting manjari with a car. the dude said to not let her be part of the wedding functions, which he withdrew later. the fact that 1 year old arguments are dragged to support evidence is hilarious to say the least. the same character dont seem to care that her sister is once again engaged to her umarkaid murderer ex and hes raising a child. this is the state of writing in the serial.

regarding private forum being used for mass reporting, same set of people are tagged in forum replies and they do the needful by counter attacking other fandom and reacting. ss attached which is probably public in suggestion comment thread too. 

  

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5335079

just want to higlight another pointer- the forum is a toxic cesspool of hate toward one particular character. last week i had posted a comment "abhi should be waterboarded so that he can forget his akshara abhir jaap", if anyone dont know whats that, its a torture tecnic used by usa soldiers on terrorists. they will put cloth over your mouth and put water over it so that person can panic thinking hes drowning. that comment is probably still there in some edt. meanwhile we all know what would have happened if i said "akshara should be watrboarded for nav jaap" or Nav should be watrboarded, that would have been trashed immediately with a warning probably. its cool to abuse a particular male character looks like, cant extend the same courtesy to other characters.

Edited by Phir_Mohabbat - 9 months ago

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

My posts were deleted but there was something said by minionite in the suggestion comments thread

My reply to a post was this 

"Akshara is played by pranali that's why majorly are supporting her. If character was played by Karishma we would have seen." 

As per minion the reply should have been- 

"You could have said Karishma isn't as pretty as pranali and don't act well hence if she played akshara people would have supported her lesser"

Something along these lines. As per mod my reply was assumed to be a bodyshaming acting shaming comment and her clear cut post was better. 

.*** Emoji usage by mod for God knows what reason 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5327467

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5334615?pn=29 entire thread especially abhi is mentally unstable

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5326398?pn=11

Dickish behaviour by delta blue 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5327017

Calling abhi piece of shit https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5327110

words like oedipus davro etc are used as research purpose over a serial where makers dont have any clue what they will show next. as a proof of davro abuse arohi/akshara relation was highlighted which was opposed by abhi- during the time this same sister has accused the fl of killing her mom, ruining her career, being jealous over her life, finally hitting manjari with a car. the dude said to not let her be part of the wedding functions, which he withdrew later. the fact that 1 year old arguments are dragged to support evidence is hilarious to say the least. the same character dont seem to care that her sister is once again engaged to her umarkaid murderer ex and hes raising a child. this is the state of writing in the serial.

regarding private forum being used for mass reporting, same set of people are tagged in forum replies and they do the needful by counter attacking other fandom and reacting. ss attached which is probably public in suggestion comment thread too. 

  

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5335079

just want to higlight another pointer- the forum is a toxic cesspool of hate toward one particular character. last week i had posted a comment "abhi should be waterboarded so that he can forget his akshara abhir jaap", if anyone dont know whats that, its a torture tecnic used by usa soldiers on terrorists. they will put cloth over your mouth and put water over it so that person can panic thinking hes drowning. that comment is probably still there in some edt. meanwhile we all know what would have happened if i said "akshara should be watrboarded for nav jaap" or Nav should be watrboarded, that would have been trashed immediately with a warning probably. its cool to abuse a particular male character looks like, cant extend the same courtesy to other characters.

Wow look at the kind of language in those posts 

That particular account always namecalls characters and talks in a nasty way but our posts gets thrashed for calling a character useless?😂😂

N number of reports don't work for their posts

Edited by Neha5785 - 9 months ago

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

My posts were deleted but there was something said by minionite in the suggestion comments thread

My reply to a post was this 

"Akshara is played by pranali that's why majorly are supporting her. If character was played by Karishma we would have seen." 

As per minion the reply should have been- 

"You could have said Karishma isn't as pretty as pranali and don't act well hence if she played akshara people would have supported her lesser"

Something along these lines. As per mod my reply was assumed to be a bodyshaming acting shaming comment and her clear cut post was better. 

.*** Emoji usage by mod for God knows what reason 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5327467

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5334615?pn=29 entire thread especially abhi is mentally unstable

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5326398?pn=11

Dickish behaviour by delta blue 

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5327017

Calling abhi piece of shit https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5327110

words like oedipus davro etc are used as research purpose over a serial where makers dont have any clue what they will show next. as a proof of davro abuse arohi/akshara relation was highlighted which was opposed by abhi- during the time this same sister has accused the fl of killing her mom, ruining her career, being jealous over her life, finally hitting manjari with a car. the dude said to not let her be part of the wedding functions, which he withdrew later. the fact that 1 year old arguments are dragged to support evidence is hilarious to say the least. the same character dont seem to care that her sister is once again engaged to her umarkaid murderer ex and hes raising a child. this is the state of writing in the serial.

regarding private forum being used for mass reporting, same set of people are tagged in forum replies and they do the needful by counter attacking other fandom and reacting. ss attached which is probably public in suggestion comment thread too. 

  

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5335079

just want to higlight another pointer- the forum is a toxic cesspool of hate toward one particular character. last week i had posted a comment "abhi should be waterboarded so that he can forget his akshara abhir jaap", if anyone dont know whats that, its a torture tecnic used by usa soldiers on terrorists. they will put cloth over your mouth and put water over it so that person can panic thinking hes drowning. that comment is probably still there in some edt. meanwhile we all know what would have happened if i said "akshara should be watrboarded for nav jaap" or Nav should be watrboarded, that would have been trashed immediately with a warning probably. its cool to abuse a particular male character looks like, cant extend the same courtesy to other characters.

This is the most interesting part of otherwise general rant. You made that post and expected mods to trash it but mods do not interfere unless someone reports a post (as I have been told by mods themselves) so if your anti abhi post still exists somewhere on the forum you should rather question  Abhi fans why didn’t they bother to report an obviously anti abhi post which is not only offensive but also violent.

And when it comes to someone making such comments for either Abhinav or Akshara, I can safely vouch for myself I wouldn’t rest until I get such nasty posts deleted coz as their fan I can’t tolerate such violent thoughts. 

Do think twice before making such vile posts.

Regards

I didn’t want to bring this up but since there is so much hue and cry about private forums then so be it, what about having topics like this made within private forums:

About multiple private forums by Abhira fans, these are two I am aware of:

Originally posted by: Lostin90s

This is the most interesting part of otherwise general rant. You made that post and expected mods to trash it but mods do not interfere unless someone reports a post (as I have been told by mods themselves) so if your anti abhi post still exists somewhere on the forum you should rather question  Abhi fans why didn’t they bother to report an obviously anti abhi post which is not only offensive but also violent.

And when it comes to someone making such comments for either Abhinav or Akshara, I can safely vouch for myself I wouldn’t rest until I get such nasty posts deleted coz as their fan I can’t tolerate such violent thoughts. 

Do think twice before making such vile posts.

Regards

did you read your post before quoting me or it just as impulsive as akshara taking a bus to find a father for her kid 🤣🤣  it makes no sense 

Btw rant - you are truly incapable of taking politely online even in a heavily moderated topic as this

As per your logic abhi fans don't bother if I am trash talking a character, how can they be a fan if they don't care 🤣🤣🤣? My point was abhi character can be abused in absurd manner and none will care and you proved exactly that , thanks. 

So you also agree posts where abhira /abhi fans have posted gif twitter links etc they were reported by other side of people cause it somehow offended them? By your own admission you will go on a rampant and so on. And please stop the superiority complex that somehow other side of fandom is better somehow, your fellow friends have used choicest of words which reeks of projecting their issues over a serial character. Just because you guys love to quote Wikipedia and so called scholarly lines doesn't mean it's sensible. 

You are on limited reply, so am I. Lets not quote each other and close down this topic as well. My side of people are looking for a permanent solution for this month's old cycle of moderation issue. Regarding vile post - my internet my wish bruh. No thanks for your free ka advice. 

Btw regarding private forum, kindly find what happens inside the forum. You are welcome to have a look at yourself, rest assured no topic dedicated to mass report a topic won't exist there. I hope my fellow member won't mind 

Edited by Phir_Mohabbat - 9 months ago