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Posted: 2 months ago
#71

Originally posted by: Vr15h

Are we discussing the Israel-Iran face-off here as well, since Iran is a primary (but not only) backer of Hamas?  Or is this only about the Gaza situation, and maybe some in Judea/Samaria?


So most Iranian missiles failed to launch or crashed before striking? Imagine if all of them had successfully hit the target


Would that be the beginning of WW3? I guess we would need a separate thread then 

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Posted: 2 months ago
#72

Originally posted by: TotalBetty


So most Iranian missiles failed to launch or crashed before striking? Imagine if all of them had successfully hit the target


Would that be the beginning of WW3? I guess we would need a separate thread then 

The Bibi factor

The unfortunate dilemma is that forced sporadic conflicts will continue to take place until Bibi leaves office. All parties are at their wits' end, and Bibi's in this solvable situation, but will only think of himself exclusively.

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Posted: 2 months ago
#73

Originally posted by: rckRadhe

The Bibi factor

The unfortunate dilemma is that forced sporadic conflicts will continue to take place until Bibi leaves office. All parties are at their wits' end, and Bibi's in this solvable situation, but will only think of himself exclusively.


If Netanyahu is not in office, Iran will stop it's attacks?

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Posted: 2 months ago
#74

Originally posted by: TotalBetty


If Netanyahu is not in office, Iran will stop it's attacks?

Mitigation with parties on both sides would definitely definitely be easier. 

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Posted: 2 months ago
#75

Originally posted by: TotalBetty


So most Iranian missiles failed to launch or crashed before striking? Imagine if all of them had successfully hit the target


Would that be the beginning of WW3? I guess we would need a separate thread then 


I don't like Russia's role in supporting Iran, although they have been historically good to India.  However, on the Sino-Indian dispute, they recognize Beijing's claims to Aksai Chin, rather than Delhi's.  Similarly, they have all the rogue allies in the Middle East - Iran, Turkey & the Palestinians


That said, I don't think they'll allow WW3 to start due to Iran.  They still have a comms channel to Israel, which allows Israel to make raids on Iranian targets in Syria, w/o damaging anything Russian.  Israel also had avoided taking sides in the Russo-Ukraine war, since there are Jews in both countries whose well-being is in the minds of Jerusalem (and both countries had long histories of anti-Semitism under both the Romanovs and the Soviets).  If the Ukraine war didn't start WW3, Mid East won't either


Only thing that will start WW3 is the US now trying to admit Ukraine into NATO, & follow that w/ putting military bases in Ukraine.  That would be as incendiary as the Soviet bases in Cuba in 1962,  Cuba is a lot farther from Washington DC than Ukraine is from Moscow,  Therefore, having NATO missiles in Ukraine would be a direct threat to the city that has 10% of Russia's population.  Since Biden's popularity is at an all time low, one can see him trying to start WW3 since no wartime president in the US ever lost re-election.  But if that happens, the US as a country is over

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Posted: 2 months ago
#76

Originally posted by: TotalBetty


If Netanyahu is not in office, Iran will stop it's attacks?


No, Iran's hatred of Israel is a jihadist ambition, and has nothing to do w/ who's in power in Jerusalem.  Israel had very left-wing predecessors to Bibi, who were willing to make far reaching concessions to the Palis.  However, the jihadist claim on Israel is "from the (Jordan) river to the (Mediterranean) sea", which is essentially their version of "Ghazwa e Hind"


Essentially, under jihad rules, once any territory has been under muslim rule, it can never be ceded to the kafirs, and if it is, it has to be taken back.  That's the basis of the claim on Israel, it's the basis of the claim on India, it's the basis of the claim on Spain, the Balkans and they'd like to take over all of Europe as well


Read this whole thing as a jihadist conquest blueprint, and you will not go wrong!

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Posted: 2 months ago
#77

Originally posted by: rckRadhe

Mitigation with parties on both sides would definitely definitely be easier. 


Except that one side is a snake, and the other a mongoose.  Asking the mongoose to let its guard down is not a good idea, especially if killing the mongoose is the sole objective of the snake

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Posted: 2 months ago
#78

Originally posted by: rckRadhe

The Bibi factor

The unfortunate dilemma is that forced sporadic conflicts will continue to take place until Bibi leaves office. All parties are at their wits' end, and Bibi's in this solvable situation, but will only think of himself exclusively.


No.  If anything, in the past, he's made compromises (mainly due to US pressure) that made some of his critics call him "Nothingyahu" - talks loudly but carries a toothpick.  Israel currently has a national unity government, which was formed after October 7th, so it's not like there is a political dispute within Israel.  All agree that Hamas has to be destroyed, since there was a ceasefire on before the October 7th attacks.  Also, most of the victims of the October 7th attacks happened to be left-leaning Jews - the type that wouldn't vote for Likud (Israel's equivalent of the BJP), which is why this attack made leftist Israelis who wouldn't give Bibi the time of day suddenly support this government


All the blame for this current conflict falls on Hamas, and its backers in Iran.  To an extent, also the Biden administration, which is too obsessed w/ winning over their jihadist supporters in states like Minnesota and Michigan, which have high muslim populations.  Otoh, Jews too have been a traditional Democrat vote bank, so they are in a no-win situation from having conflicting identity groups in their "coalition"

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Posted: 2 months ago
#79

Originally posted by: Vr15h


Except that one side is a snake, and the other a mongoose.  Asking the mongoose to let its guard down is not a good idea, especially if killing the mongoose is the sole objective of the snake

When the surrounding temperature cools snakes aren't as active. 

The Mongoose can always wait for things to cool down ... Isn't It? 

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Posted: 2 months ago
#80

Originally posted by: rckRadhe

When the surrounding temperature cools snakes aren't as active. 

The Mongoose can always wait for things to cool down ... Isn't It? 


I suggested that in the thread on Israel support.  Israel should intensify the operation against Hamas & Iran this October, right before the US presidential elections.  That will force both muslims & Jews to revolt against the Biden campaign, for opposite reasons.  Let Biden & his thugs be flushed down the ðŸš½ of history, & President Trump resume what he did so well until 2019.  Including waging an all-out war against woke ideologs

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