Denouncing the actions of Israel (SM updates added) - Page 9

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

That's probably because most of those protesting Israel have double standards.

Says who? Nationalists? Zionists? Supporters of Israel who have nothing to do with US, Israel or Palestine but simply love watching innocent babies and children massacred?

Who has double standards? Jewish Rabbis? Orthodox Jews of Israel? Hasidic Jews of New York? Young Ashkenazi American Jews? They too have been protesting on the streets for over a month. Why are they not supporting their own people? Why are they not supporting Israel, the supposed land of the Jews? Why are they defending the Palestinians?

Looking at the massive support Palestinians have garnered in every continent in just the last month alone, more than half the world has double standards, if anyone does. So no, your assertion does not hold any water. The numbers are simply against you. You cannot attribute every dissenting opinion to double standards.

1. Two prominent Jewish organizations, Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow protest against the "Jewish homeland" and actively denounce Israeli atrocities and genocide of the Palestinians. Where the double standards at here, bruh?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/23/us/jewish-palestinian-protest-israel-gaza/index.html

2. Orthodox Jews have been protesting against the "Jewish Homeland" since time immemorial.

Here's one from as far back as 2013

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/orthodox-jews-protest-israel-in-ny/195255

Here's one from 2023 where Rabbis themselves assert Zionists like Netanyahu don't belong in Israel

https://x.com/TorahJudaism/status/1722856913476432383?s=20

Even your own country India decided to sit this one out instead of voting against ceasefire. I mean you guys on here keep advocating for quid pro quo. Plenty of members on here harp about how Israel helped India some years ago so all Indians should support India.

Now, if Israel was only "defending itself", why is India not supporting Israel, unabashedly? Why did it abstain from voting on this issue?

Here: List of countries that voted against, for ceasefire and abstained from voting.

https://twitter.com/moathwaqfi/status/1720751879120884019?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

You are confusing UNHRC with UN in all your replies. UNHRC has 47 members and UN has 193.

UNHCR is a part of the UN. Whether you trash the UN or any of its suborganizations, the fact remains- muh opinion on India-forums from a non-entity without any evidence to back up claims is not good enough. Which is what Birdienumbnumb was doing. That's his modus operandi. So I called him out. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

When we are questioning the credibility of UNHRC, it was based on the reasoning that the council whose mission is to address human rights issues (like freedom of association and assembly, freedom of expression, freedom of belief and religion, women's rights etc.), has as its members countries like China and Cuba where human rights issues completely go for a toss.

And who decided China and Cuba are the only two outcasts of society? USA? India? The same two countries that have their own skeletons in the closet and routinely committ assault on human rights. They do not get to brainwash people against any other country when their own backyard is rife with human rights violations. Public sexual assault and rape of women in India is a well known scourge. Gun violence in schools and police violence on African Americans is a well known atrocity committed routinely in the US. If these two countries can be members, so can China and Cuba.

Since I am not blind to my own country's faults. I will even cite the violations for you. See below. Cited the same resource for both India and the US. For added measure.

References:

1. Latest on human rights abuses in India

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/south-asia/india/report-india/

2. Latest on human rights abuses in the USA

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/americas/north-america/united-states-of-america/report-united-states-of-america/

And just like that. Zionist Netanyahu has lost France. Finally, a right move by Macron. Bad news for Israel though. France isn’t a country you want to lose.

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1723120717988819369?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw



Now Israel is reducing its own death toll. Didn’t it claim “Hamas” killed 1400 Israelis? Who ate the 200, bruh? Where did they vanish?

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1723071530324881840?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

^^ khala=> you are conflating issues here. The orthodox jews you cited want the state of Israel to come into being only through God's divine intervention. It has very little to do with whether they think the palestinian hamas are murderers or not, or whether they believe Jews have divine rights on that territory. Orthodox jews will tell you they have divine rights. They just didnt want Israel to come about by UN diktat. So dont be conflating stuff here.

second, we can all claim here to be americans. Reality is we also have other attachments eg. other ethnic backgrounds that we also support. So let's not be disingenuous and pretend that you are also criticizing your country.

third, once again, the UNHRC is a joke. You really lose credibility by continuing to cite their saudi/ qatar/ china funded reports as manna from heaven.

btw, macron has always been a weasel. Wouldn't get too excited about his flip-flops if I were you. As for the support the palestinians are garnering, it's to be expected given the level of muslim emigration out of rat holes like iraq/ syria to western countries. But still, majorities in most western countries would be for Israel. No contest.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

^^ khala=> you are conflating issues here. The orthodox jews you cited want the state of Israel to come into being only through God's divine intervention. It has very little to do with whether they think the palestinian hamas are murderers or not, or whether they believe Jews have divine rights on that territory. Orthodox jews will tell you they have divine rights. They just didnt want Israel to come about by UN diktat. So dont be conflating stuff here.

second, we can all claim here to be americans. Reality is we also have other attachments eg. other ethnic backgrounds that we also support. So let's not be disingenuous and pretend that you are also criticizing your country.

third, once again, the UNHRC is a joke. You really lose credibility by continuing to cite their saudi/ qatar/ china funded reports as manna from heaven.

Oh the way you twist yourself into a pretzel to force people to believe the sky is pink instead of blue.

I’ll keep it simple for you and indulge you one last time.

1. Orthodox Jews ARE Jews. What you as a non-Jew say or believe about them has no meaning. The world sees a Jew denouncing a Zionist. Point blank period.

2. As for attachments, for an Indian, your posts definitely reflect a greater loyalty and attachment to Israel than India so perhaps it’s unfathomable to you that people are capable of criticizing their own countries or standing in solidarity with another when their own is at fault.

3. Your balderdash about the UN and/or any of its sub-organizations was already disproven and trashed.

Next.

When Elon Musk out of all the people on Earth starts making sense, you know you’re on the losing side. Godspeed to you, Zionism

https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1722882154751725630?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

Angelina’s always on the right side of history just like Susan Sarandon.

https://twitter.com/gabbar0099/status/1722957324191490554?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw


Start by cutting that oil pipeline to Israel off?

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1722902466176672210?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

lol boycott Israeli product? Sure, how about also giving up on all the Israeli inventions and drugs that we use every day? I am sure we can get by just flying horses.

You really should do your homework before you decide to troll.

Starbucks is losing money. McDonalds is slashing prices. Disney lost money. All in one month. A simple google search can show this.

You batting for Zionism on here isn’t putting dollars into those companies’ pockets. If you care about Zionists so much, better wake up and start eating McDonald’s every day.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

also, most of the extreme left live off handouts. They never built anything, so it's total BS to be claiming that their tax dollars are going to Israel. More likely, their money is going to their home countries and ending up funding terrorists

Plenty of leftists including me and those I personally know fall in the over 30% tax bracket and our tax dollars are going towards this Genocide against our consent. So we will protest, on social media and on the streets. If you don’t like it, hide in your home. Or keep typing out the same redundant lies 100 times. Your time, not mine.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

lol kosher for you to be talking about pretzels? You were wanting to boycott jewish products now, weren't you?

Twist yourself into a pretzel is a figure of speech, genius. It has nothing to do with Judaism. Perhaps brush up on that American slang along with the American sociopolitical culture.


Not to mention, Pretzels originated in Italy, Germany. Nothing to do with Israel. 🤦🏽‍♀️

Who am I even talking to? You have taken enough of my time. It’s like talking to a toddler. Yikes.

Never has Japan turned up in such massive numbers for any other cause before. But it has been doing so for Palestinians.

Repeating it again.

Japan, a homogenous society with no religious or cultural affiliation with Palestine is ALSO standing in solidarity with Palestinians.

Let that sink in. Because this is yet another slap on Israel’s stolen land face.

https://twitter.com/advil/status/1722967219276013826?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

And yet Zionists cannot silence the entire world. Nobody is scared of the Antisemitism trope anymore. It’s like the boy who cried wolf.

https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1723021951269032035?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

So instead they bribe college kids with $250 to show up at their protests


https://twitter.com/hotgirlhala/status/1722681147937657230?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw


Even the Jewish in Jerusalem are demanding Netanyahu’s resignation. So much for nationalism.

https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1721059947113267249?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

Difference between Jews and Zionists ⬇️

https://twitter.com/blackintheempir/status/1723069367263297858?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

Because the rapes and the beheaded babies did not happen. It was a blatant lie manufactured by Israel to flatten Gaza and massacre Palestinians.

Just like how Israel went from claiming 1400 dead people to 1200 dead people. I guess the 200 came back to life. Like Jesus Christ except it took 34 days instead of 3.

https://twitter.com/keithwoodsyt/status/1722625277547987382?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

Well done bruh. We will go fund you until you find your next job. Zionism should be treated like the plague it is

https://twitter.com/_habzino/status/1723001241200919026?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

Netanyahu killed his own for ratings as expected. Nothing we haven’t seen before.

https://twitter.com/jvgraz/status/1723209294366330888?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw

Yep. Because they can’t believe they’re turned into actual boys who cried wolf from that fable. The world isn’t buying Zionist sob stories anymore so they throw tantrums like a 3 year old. Who they would massacre gleefully by the way, let’s not forget that horror as part of Zionist legacy to the world.

https://twitter.com/21wire/status/1722989287615180898?s=46&t=tZzRor5dLvRasXaXfa6jBw