Akbar - MUZ Kids :: Part-6 : JA is NOT Fiction

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Akbar - MUZ Kids : Part-6 - Jodha - Akbar is NOT Fiction



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Hi all. 😊
Finally, posting what all info, WE have got about Akbar's kids. Sorry for the late 'launch' of this thread. After N number of 'bahanas'πŸ˜‰ finally, the post is here. Though, let me tell,  Preparing / Writing this thread has taken 3 months. 😳 Compilation started on 21st February and finally on 1st June, posting this. The info has been compiled from COUNTLESS accounts.

Hope NOW we won't get 'nightmares',πŸ˜‰ i mean, countless PMs asking for Akbar-MUZ Kids.

Have tried to present the info in very aesthetic manner, from sharing knowledge POV, not just for mentioning the names of Kids.. 😊

Enjoy Reading.πŸ‘πŸΌ



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Let's start with the present thread.



Credits for the Info -> KDR81 + Lizzy2012 + (me too) + My friend in Jaipur + Many many people who helped in accessing the rare records.!!. 😊


Note:
We have gone through all 'possible' sources we could access till date, ranging from accounts/archives in Agra, Delhi, Jaipur and Bikaner, coupled by personal visits to places in Agra, Rajasthan, etc. There are many people who have helped us in this herculean task, as posting about Akbar's Kids was not an easy task. The accounts have been deliberately distorted. 😳
There is a LOT of spurious info prevailing in the 'commonly' available translated books. Read this Post. And, after that, go through ALL the 7 comments below the Main Post on this page. It will then be clear, what we mean here.


Disclaimer :
1.
We are STILL searching/ reading on this issue, hence we can not guarantee the 100% exactness of this post. This post will be updated if something NEW is found. Though, you can be assured that maximum info presented here is CORRECT.
2.
Our research is "STILL ON" and we are still in a process of verifications and re-verifications on this topic.
3.
Posting this thread due to "Huge Demand", as minimum 4-5 PMs are landing in our inbox DAILY, asking for this info. Hence, instead of replying individually, here is the thread. 😊
4.
BTW, This list of Akbar-MUZ kids 'may' NOT be exhaustive.πŸ˜‰ So, let's start.



Note:

1. Badayuni and Abu'l Fazl's accounts have been quoted majorly in this post. Our views explaining some of the sentences of their accounts will appear in {italics in brackets in blue color in between} .

2. MUZ means Mariam-Uz-Zamani . This was title given to Harka Bai - Akbar's Hindu Wife, The Princess of Amber(Amer / Modern Day East Jaipur), the Eldest Daughter of Raja Bharmal.




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# 1,2. Twins Boys.


Name          -     Hassan Mirza and Hussain Mirza
DOB           -     19 October 1564  / Thursday 13 Raby' al-awal 972  / 13th day of 3rd month of the Islamic Year 972
Expired On  -     Hussain Mirza - 29 October, 1564   /  Sunday 23 Raby' al-awal 972   /  
                            Hassan Mirza  - 5 November, 1564 / Sunday 1 Raby' al-THaany 972

Mother         - >>> Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum / Harka Bai


Akbar had arrived in Agra before the birth of these twins on Tuesday, 3 Rabi-al-awwal, 972 , i.e., 9th October, 1564.


In Akbarnama, Volume 2, Page-357, {D.E.} Abu'l Fazl, notes the incident of birth of these kids, as follows.

He writes:
" One of the occurrences, which occurred during this happy time, was the birth of twins. Two priceless jewels appeared from one matrix,{this refers to the mother of the twins} two world-lighting stars emerged by one ascension, two (pairs of) glorious eyes received brightness, two (sets of) earrings were exalted, two precious necklaces shone, two powerful arms came into being, two wrists of success appeared, two beauteous eyebrows came into being, two ears of joy were opened. That is, two twin-princes were born. The worlds expanded with joy, and the parterres of flowers smiled.{means the parents(parterres) of the kids(flowers) - i.e. Akbar and MUZ} The carpet of joy was spread from shore to shore and happiness was proclaimed to mankind. The sound of the drum of rejoicing was heard throughout the nine heavens, and the strains of the organ of felicity resounded over the six sides of the world. "


Abu'l Fazl dedicates a verse to this auspicious moment.

 Verse
    There was such a round of bumpers
    That patience deserted patience, and sense left sense.
H.M. took the blooming of these two rose-bushes as an omen of the auspiciousness of two worlds.
He returned thanks to God, and named one of the twins Mirza Hasan, the other Mirza Husain.



Qasim Arslan made this chronogram about the birth of those two royal pearls.

Verse
    The unique king had two sons as successors
    Two jewels came into the hands from the casket of success. {refers to the mother of twins.}
    Time searching for the date wrote thus:
    Two moons appeared from the zenith.{refers to the Almighty.}


He, Further writes,

These two unique pearls of the ocean of holiness,{the parents are called Holy} returned to the ample domain of the other world after one month.{means, they passed away and went to the 'other' world.} They flung down the coin of their lives for their father. H.M. felt grieved at the departure of those two early fruits, but trod the pleasant path of acquiescence and resignation, for to the farseeing there is no remedy save submission and resignation against the inevitable Divine decrees.



Info:
After the passing away of these two twins, Akbar and MUZ went to Sheikh Salim Chisti Baba's Dargah. It was the first time that MUZ was with Akbar, while Akbar was in a war. After the conclusion of the war, while returning, Akbar and MUZ went to the Dargah in Sikri
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MUZ DID go with Akbar, while the latter was on wars. Even wars could NOT separate them..πŸ˜‰




^^^Even today, people tie strings/ Holy Dhaaga at the shrine of the revered Saint Sheikh Salim Chisti Sahab, at Fatehpur Sikri, and ask for a progeny.😊




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Note:

Akbarnama, Vol.2, Pg-367,d.e. mentions a pilgrimage undertaken by royal members to the shrine of Khwaja Muin-ud-din Chisti in Ajmer, 1564-65. Though, the names of ALL the members who undertook it are not provided. Searching more about this pilgrimage, from other sources. As usual, Abu'l Fazl, has not given ALL the names.


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#3.

A daughter from Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba. Named --> Fatima . (Some sources say, before giving this name PUBLICLY she passed away).
Passed away somewhere in 1566-67(as per Hijri Year translation). Still searching exact date.
She also did not survive for more time, like the twins above.


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Note:

This is about the pilgrimages undertaken by Akbar. MUZ went along with Akbar to a pilgrimage to Khwaja Muin-ud-din Chisti in Ajmer in 1566. The book "Studies of Islam Culture in Indian Environment " by Aziz Ahmed, cites the above fact, from Akbarnama, Volume-2.

There is a debate about the Year , but the pilgrimage was undertaken by Akbar and MUZ is a sure fact.


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#4.
A son - died soon...The mother was Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum.
Son's name or DOB is not known with certainty. So, not mentioning here.


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Note:

These are the details of  "another"  pilgrimage to Khwaja Muin-ud-din Chisti in Ajmer, which started on Feb28, 1568, are in Akbarnama, Volume-2, after Pg-464,d.e. Many other sources, mention this. One such source is - Akbar - The Great Mughal, by Vincent Arther Smith, Page-97, but he also does not gives details about this...He says some ladies also came to the shrine.




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Special Note: πŸ˜‰


Akbarnama, Volume-2,  Chapter 68  EXPLICITLY mentions Akbar visited Amer.


He arrived there after 26 March,1569.

Abu'l Fazl, explains -> " When His Majesty alighted at Amber, Raja Bhagwant Das, whose native town it was, came forward with sincerity and arranged a "feast {jashan}πŸ˜†". He also tendered noble gifts."

Akbar was royally welcomed in the kingdom of Amber. Finally, Akbar reached agra on 11 May 1569. It is not clear, who all were present with AkbarπŸ˜‰ on this trip. Trying to find this out. πŸ˜ƒ

BTW, Did anyone notice, how much time he spent in Amber.?.πŸ˜†πŸ˜‰


>>  Another documented incidence, when Akbar visited Amber with many other courtiers, was for the marriage of Salim with Man Bai, daughter of Raja Bhagwan Das, in 1585. This marriage at Amber, 'ALSO' took place in Hindu traditions.

This was the FIRST time, Akbar (or any other Mughal Emperor in the history of India) visited the bride's native place for conducting marriage ceremonies of his son. 😊
No doubt, Amber had a "SpeciaL" corner in Akbar's heart. πŸ˜‰


Our Old Ranting : πŸ₯±

As written several times before, that Internet Websites mention, Akbar NEVER went to Amber. πŸ˜•πŸ˜‰ BUT, was Just going through Akbarnama 'casually', and could find 2 well-documented incidences(mentioned above) , when Akbar visited Amber. 🀒 So, you all see, this was ANOTHER MU/Story, created by Digital Media(read Internet) about Akbar. There are more such incidences when he visited. And, even Akbarnama does not mentions all visits. Will keep updating in future posts.




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#5.

Then was born Salim/Jahangir on 30th August 1569.
Born to Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba. First surviving child of Akbar. Akbar paid a visit to the Dargah at Ajmer after the birth.

Harka Bai(HK) was taken to Sikri, when she was pregnant, stayed in Rang Mahal, Akbar HIMSELF used to be present there at times with her. (As per Tabqa'aat-i-Akbari)




^^ Pic Shows Akbar Getting News of Salim's Birth





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Salim was born in a hurriedly built modest structure at Sikri, as HK was transferred from Rang Mahal to near the Saint's hermitage, when HK was about to deliver. After Salim's birth, Harka Bai was honored with the title of Mariam-Uz-Zamani. 
She returned to Agra, from Sikri, after 3 months of Salim's birth.




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^^^^^Pic Showing Birth of Prince Salim at Sikri. [ Credit for Pic - Sunram ]



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a.
It is said that - Akbar gave a "Rajvanshi Style pat on her head" expressing love, when he met her after Salim's birth, at Sikri.

b.

Another thing, in records is that -> During this first meet, Akbar instantly presented her with - ' Naulakha ' , that is, nine pairs of necklace sets, coupled with ear-rings/nose-rings, etc., valued over 1,00,000 gold coins. ' Naulakha ' in Rajputana refers to " priceless jewel ".



Now, Continuing about Salim:


About his Learning
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He was ceremonially initiated in to learning..His first tutor's name was Qutb-ud-din. A big feast/"jashanπŸ˜†"{aren't we all scared of jashansπŸ˜‰} was given at this time by Akbar. After this he was instructed in military and strategic thinking and warfare by various tutors. Bhagwant Das was supposedly one of his tutors on military and strategic thinking and warfare, for some time.

Salim started learning at age of 5.

On two occasions he got a special sword from Amer:
1. Sword when he started his tutelage, and 
2. When his marriage with Man Bai happened-This was a Gem-Studded Sword .


In Akbarnama, Volume 2, Chapter - 70, Abu'l Fazl, notes the incident of birth of Salim, as follows.


" At this time the lights of God-knowingness, God-worshipping, and of austerity were conspicuous in Shaikh Salim of the town of Sikri, which has become a capital by the glory of the Shahinshah's advent and is called Fatehpur. By means of Shaikh Muhammad Bokhari and Hakim Ain-al-mulk and a number of other courtiers who had the right of audience, this was brought to the royal hearing, and it was determined that the "matrix of the sun of fortune"{<<<---the translator EXPLICITLY mentions in Akbarnama that, this Honorable statement "matrix of sun of fortune" is used by Abu'l Fazl to describe the mother of Salim. πŸ˜‰ } , together with several of the officials attached to the Zenana should be conveyed to Fatehpur and should enjoy repose in the vicinity of the Shaikh. It was also ordered that a royal palace should be established there so that the saintly Shaikh might address himself to the Author of bounties for the attainment of the great boon. The blessings of his proximity were manifested in the appearance of the desired object. Previous to this also, the Bestower of gifts had presented the sovereign with several children, but they had been taken away for thousands of wise designs, one of which might be the increasing of [**text unreadable**] in the acquisition of the priceless pearl. "



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^^^^^Pic Showing Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum and Akbar after Birth of Salim


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Abu'l Fazl writes beautifully,
Verse

    The flower of joy{Salim} bloomed in{womb of his mother} the glorious garden{Salim's mother}
    Fruit appeared on the plant of realm and religion.

Messengers conveyed the happy tidings to Agra, and there was general rejoicing.
Delight suffused the brain of the age.

    Time arranged an assembly of enjoyments
    The cup-bearer sate and the glass rose up
    There was a banquet more joyous than life's foundation
    A cup-bearer unequalled as a drawer of cups
    They made an illumination for the world
    There was a vernal assemblage
    The flower shot up and the garden shone forth
    A lamp came and lighted up the family
    There was a fortune like the brain of the wise
    The world arose with an awakened fortune
    The zephyrs moved while scattering flowers
    The earth rose up and joined the sky
    The king came and the desire of friends was fulfilled
    He sate at the feast by the cup and the relish
    His diadem he raised to the sky
    His forehead he fastened to the ground
    He issued a proclamation for enjoyment
    He invited the world as his guest
    The cup-bearer opened the lid of the goblet
    The treasurer opened the door of the treasury
    The skirt and wallet of the sky were filled
    In order that it might shower pearls on the earth.



Among the notes of thanksgiving for this everlasting favour there was this, that all the prisoners in the imperial domains who were shut up in fortresses on account of great crimes, were released. There was a fresh market-day for joy, and the lamp and eye of fortune was rekindled.



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^^^ Picture shows Rejoicings at Salim's Birth


The painting provides a glimpse of the Harem, and the joyous tumult greeting a royal birth. at the imperial city of Fatehpur Sikri. The image shows an aerial view of the Harem and birth chamber. While musicians perform in the central courtyard, alms are distributed to beggars outside the wall.


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Accordingly at this time when the Great God had bestowed such a gift, it was proper that he should go with all possible speed and illuminate the eyes of that blissful infant(means he should meet Salim) with the light which a secret power hath implanted in him(Akbar).

But as the common people of this country have an old custom according to which whenever God, after long expectation, has bestowed an auspicious child, he be not produced before the honoured father till after a long delay, H.M. respected this feeling and put off his visit to Fatehpur.
{Actually, It was a Hindustani custom of NOT seeing the long awaited, born child for atleast 30 days after his birth, this ensures that the child brings fortune to family. So, on advice of Shah Bukhari, an astronomist in Gwalior, Akbar did not see Salim for 41 days. Due to same reason, Humayun saw Akbar after 32 days of his birth.}


That new fruit{new fruit is Salim, as before him also children from MUZ had been born} of the garden of fortune{his mother} was kept in his birthplace, and the care of him was entrusted to eminent persons. From spiritual and physical associations he received the name of Sultan Salim. It is hoped that he may grow up in spiritual and physical well-being under the guardianship of the Shahinshah, and be fortunate by pleasing H.M., which is a sign of pleasing God. May he, by the blessings of the holy breathings of the Shahinshah, attain to spiritual and physical old age and be green and full of sap in the spring of fortune! In accordance with directions, astronomers calculated the powers of celestial sires and terrestrial mothers{Abu'l Fazl uses this same statement for Murad's birth.πŸ˜‰}, and presented the horoscope. And as there is a discrepancy between Greek and Indian astrologers with regard to fundamental principles and their consequences in the matter of the stars, a horoscope was prepared according to each scheme. As the horoscope which Maulana Chand Chand drew up according to the Greek canon appears most worthy of confidence, it is set down first.


Note:

1.
Abu'l Fazl describes the mother-son duo as "Choicest Apple of Paradise's Garden".  😊
Here, Salim is the - "Choicest Apple".
And, the mother, MUZ is - "Garden of Paradise".

2.
Answering some PMs, i received in plenty yesterday. --> " No where, i came across ANY Document EXPLICITLY saying that Jahangir was given to any other Begum for upbringing. "

Here is an OLD Link about Jahangir's relation with his mother.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/105448260

Apart from above, there are MORE beautiful instances, involving Mother-Son, which we will Quote later.😊

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#6. Including this Kid for informative purpose. (mother not known to us right now).

Khannum Sultan
Daughter - Born after Jahangir.
Was married to Mirza Muzaffar Husain, of Khandesh, who was son of Ibrahim Mirza and GulRukh Begum (daughter of Kamran, brother of Humayun). The marriage happened at Lahore on 4th August 1593. {Akbarnama, Volume 3, Pg-990,d.e.}
Was given to Hamida Bano Begum, initially.



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#7.  (Neither mother nor DOB known to us right now). We are still searching. 😊
Shahzadi Khannum-
Married to Muzzafar Shah ,ruled Gujarat.
She was a Persian and Turkish language scholar. She also learnt some Indian languages.


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#8.


A son Murad .  Timeline : 7th June 1570 - 12th May 1599
Mother  - Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba.

He was a child of blessings(hence the name - Murad), as he just survived remotely. Was the only son to start education late .This was due to his indifferent health. He started studying at 8. His education was entrusted to Father Monserrate, this was discontinued later.


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^^^^^Rejoicings at the Birth of Murad



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He was called "Pahaari" , born in the hills of Fatehpur Sikri. Akbar paid a visit to the Dargah at Ajmer.

After his birth, Akbar shifted the mother and the court and everyone to the town of Sikri, considering it to be auspicious, in 1571. The palace and mosques were already completed by then. Their construction had started as early as 1567(so you note that, FS construction had started WAY BEFORE Salim's birth,i.e., 1569πŸ˜‰), as per Badayuni's accounts and also as per an inscription on the MAIN mosque in Sikri complex, which survives TILL DATE ALSO. 😊

Features:
1. Fresh colored
2. Thin
3. Tall (stature)
4. Manly and Brave
5. Dignified and Well Behaved person
6. Authority sprinkled with his movements
7. Took drinking in Deccan...Was not an addict initially..!!..



Abu'l Fazl in Akbarnama, Volume-2, Pg-514 / 515 says:

In as much as the "celestial fathers" and the "terrestrial mothers^" engage in making the Shahinshah successful, every spring a fresh flower blooms in the garden of fortune, and in every cycle an auspicious star emerges from the horizon of the Caliphate. When the Shahinshah, who is the progenitor of dominion and fortune, wished for noble children{Note that Akbar wishes for "noble" children, not JUST "children"}πŸ˜‰, the incomparable deity displayed special liberality in granting this boon, and this daily-increasing favour, which is the great gift of heaven, came, one after another, as an adornment of H.M. New and powerful aids, which could succour sovereignty and buttress the Caliphate, arose, and showed to the four pillars of the world, and the six sides of the universe that God had granted to the Shahinshah the kingdoms of fortune together with all blessings and boons because he had no equal or similar among the sovereigns for dispositions and qualities and for devotion to what is right and for Divine worship. Among these blessings was this, that in this fortunate year, after the passing of fifty-two seconds (or "pal" - Abu'l Fazl means 52 beats, or time equivalent to 52 moments, most probably) of the night of Asman, the 27th Khirdad, Divine month, Thursday, 3 Muharram 978, 7 June 1570, 29 Khirdad, of 1881, 492 Jalali Maliki, corresponding to 17 Aban 939 of Yezdijird, 8 'aziran 1881 Rumi, under Capricorn according to the Greek philosophers, and Sagittarius, according to the Indian sages, a "noble son* ", in whose forehead the lights of high fortune were visible**, appeared in the fortunate quarters of Shaikh Salim in Fatehpur. A new rose of the Caliphate bloomed. In a fortunate hour the name of that fortunate prince was inscribed in fortune's page as Shah Murad. In rejoicing for the rising of this star of fortune, great feasts were held, and largesses bestowed. The skirt of time was made heavy with the coin of success (Murad).


Index for above info:
^   --->> Exactly Same reference was used by Abu'l Fazl in describing Salim's birth. 😊
*  / ** ---->> It refers to the son of being a noble lineage.
Also, there is special mention of the arrangements of GREAT feasts.


As per Muntakhab, Vol.2, Pg-132/133, Badayuni writes,


 On Thursday the 3rd of the month of Muharram in the year 978, there took place in the house of Shaikh Salim the rising of the star of prosperity and happiness, the Prince Murad. And a royal feast "just like the former one was prepared"{Badayuni also says the same as Abu'l Fazl. Feasts of same MAGNITUDE were arranged just like Salim's birth.πŸ˜‰}

And Maulana Qasim Arsalan composed a qiblah, of which the first hemistich of each verse gives the date of the birth of those two princes, the first that of the first, and the second that of the second:"

    "The first prince, that shining moon,
    Rose like a moon from the pinnacle of glory.
    That second son of king Akbar
    Came down like a descending constellation from heaven."



Also there is another mnemosynon of the same kind:"

   "From the pure light, LIKE Sultan Salim there descended,
{^^Both the princes, Salim and Murad, being from "SAME ORIGIN".!!.}    
    The standard of Shah Murad bin Akbar the just."


And Khwajah Husain Marwi composed a qiblah of seven verses, in which each first hemistich gives the date of the birth of the first prince, and each second hemistich the date of the birth of the second:"

                    "This sky gave two princes to the king,
                    The face of both was better than the sun.
                    The first of them was second to the king of the world,
                    The second of them was a heart-stealer of lofty power.
                    The one through good luck to the king on the throne
                    Brought the news of a hundred open doors.
                    The other was cause of peace and security,
                    The sun gave him from the moon a sleeping-cradle.
                    The news that a king is born arises from the first,
                    And of that the first hemistich gives the answer.
                    From the second hemistich of each verse
                    Find thou the birth of the second prince.
                    May there be to that king, and to that prince,
                    The pomp of Alexander, and the glory of Afrashyab."





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#9.


A son - Daniyal -.Mother -  Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba.
Timeline : 11th September 1572 - 8th April 1604
Brought up initially by Raja Bharmal's wife.

Taught militia stratagem  by the Rajputs. Daniyal was more Rajput in his military operations that any of his brothers and respected Hinduism a lot. Considered the best person to succeed Akbar if not for his alcohol addiction. He had seven wives out of which ,three were Rajputs.!!.

As his birth took place at Ajmir in the house of one of the attendants of the blessed shrine of the reverend Khwaja MU'inu-d-din Chishti, whose name was Shaikh Daniyal, this child was called Daniyal.

His love for alcohol destroyed him..He was posted to the Deccan in 1601..It is in Deccan that he became addicted to alcohol.πŸ˜• He was asked to return to Agra on Akbar's orders. This was to eradicate his addiction. He promised Akbar that he would not touch alcohol but in 1604 when he was returning, he saw nomads with alcohol and couldn't control himself. He asked Murshid Quli Khan, a muskeeter so poured the alcohol in to the barrel of his gun. The drank the poisoned mixture, which became so due to the mixing of rust with and gunpowder with alcohol and he died drinking it.
Akbar was " BROKEN beyond repair " at his death. πŸ˜•


Features:

1.
He was very fond of guns and of hunting with the gun.
He named one of his guns yaka u janaza, 'the same as the bier,' and himself composed this couplet and had it engraved on the gun :-
"From the joy of the chase with thee, life is fresh and new;
To everyone whom thy dart strikes, 'tis the same as his bier."

2. Daniyal was of pleasing figure, of exceedingly agreeable manners and appearance.

3.
He was very fond of elephant and horses. It was impossible for him to hear of anyone as having a good horse or elephant and not take it from him, sometimes forgetting the trifling ceremony of paying for it. πŸ˜†

4.
He was fond of Hindi songs, and would occasionally compose verses with correct idiom in the language of the native people of Hindustan, which were not bad.πŸ˜† And, was a good reciter of Hindi poetry.

5.
Daniyal was almost as fond of good eating as he was of drink.




Chapter - 79 -  - Akbarnama - Volume-2, Pg-542 / 543, say about Daniyal, as follows.


At the time that the sublime cortege was proceeding from Ajmer, one of the ""secluded ones^^ "" of the "screen of chastity" had come near the time of child-birth and was unable to endure movement or a journey.

{During the birth of this kid, she was travelling along with Akbar, while the latter was on move on an campaign against Gujarat. 😲

BTW, She used to accompany Akbar EVEN While on his War Expeditions at times. We saw it BEFORE in case of Hussain and Hasan, after their demise.

In this case, When the movement was NOT possible, then the royal cavalcade halted and set towards Ajmer.
}

In searching for an auspicious place the house of Daniyal* "a follower of the illustrious shrine (i.e. Khwaja Muinu-d-din)"was found. It was made empty and the lady was placed there. The cortege of fortune had halted in Phalodi**, which lies in a desert (ran) belonging to the Sarkar of Nagaur, when couriers came from Ajmer and brought the joyful intelligence that after 41 puls(seconds) of the night of Asman, 27 Shahriyar, Divine month, corresponding to Wednesday, 2 Jamda-al-awal, 9 September 1572***, according to visibility and to the night of the third according to supreme decree, under the sign of Aries according to the Greek philosophers, and of Pisces according to the Indian sages, the Giver of life and Adorner of the world had, in the blissful land of Ajmer, the longitude of which is 1115', and latitude 26', bestowed on the Shahinshah a "lofty-starred son". By the emergence of this "brilliant star favour had been conferred on souls and on horizons". When the lord of the world heard this news he placed his forehead on the dust of prostration, and returned thanks to God. He recognised in this news the foretidings of incalculable victories, and inaugurated splendid feasts. The people received fresh joy by general gifts, and the coin of liberality was poured into the lap of the world.

{
Note:
^^    -  This term is used for Queens.
*     -  Sheikh Daniyal Chisti of Ajmer died in 1585 at the age of 111.
**    - Phalodi - Lies North-West of Marwar, and on borders of Bikaner and Jaisalmer.
***  -  At some places DOB is given as 11 September, 1572. Subject to appearance of moon.
}

Continued:

Verse.

    A soul-sustaining rose bloomed in the garden
    The fragrance reached a thousand gardens
    When the cypress sprang from the noble* root  
    Gratulations were uttered by the seven planets
    The Khedive gave fresh wings to joy
    He proclaimed a wine-distribution to the seven climes
    Rapture was hung on the chords of melody
    Song penetrated the brain of the Age
    Liberality, when it gave a glance of genius
    Removed the curtain from in front of desire.


{ * -  This refers to the noble origins of the son. The mother being of noble lineage. }


H.M. had regard to the birthplace which was the house of Shaikh Daniyal, and having implored aid from His Highness Daniyal the Great (the prophet) gave to that nursling of fortune's rosarium the name of Sultan Daniyal. Acute poets wrote congratulatory odes, and rare chronograms came from the tongues of the skilful, and were rewarded with gifts. An order was issued that when this celestial star should be a month old, his cradle should be conveyed to the town of Amber and the care of him committed to the Rani, the wife of Raja BharMal.**** It is hoped that this cypress of the Caliphate will for long epochs be watered by the Shahinshah's fortune^, and will grow up under his^^ shade and protection.

Note:
**** -- The translator puts a note in Akbarnama that,  the text implies, about the mother of Daniyal being related to the Rani. This strengthens the tradition that the lady was Jahangir's mother.
^  -  Means Daniyal will flourish with the good fortune(read-'kismat') of Akbar, and
^^ - He will grow up under protection of BharMal. Means "good fortune" of Akbar + "Protected" by Bharmal.( This is the explanation we got. )
 



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#10.

A daughter - Mother - Born to Hindu Wife of Akbar - Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba.
Shakr-un-Nissa Begum - Her name means - As sweet as sugar Or the one who sprinkles sugar.

DOB extremely disputed. As far as we could conclude, it was in 1571. Not sure of 'exact' date.

She was brought up in the care of Akbar, that is, Akbar used to take lot of interest in her upbringing. She turned out very well. She was of good disposition and naturally compassionate towards all people.

She was the first wife of Mirza Shahrukh, married on 4th August 1593, at Lahore, in the house of Hamida Bano Begum. Her marriage took place on same day, along with Khannum Sultan(mentioned above,#6). Mirza Shahrukh was son of Ibrahim Mirza and his second wife, Khanum Begum( widow of Kamran, Humayun's brother). She died on January 1, 1653. Buried at Akbar's Mausoleum in Sikandara.
She is said to be very homely and good natured lady. She loved her brother Jahangir a lot. Jahangir is reported to have treated her at par with his mother. She also interceded on certain ocassions to secure pardon for state offenders, along with her mother and Salima Begum. The famous case is of her involvement in securing pardon for her brother Salim, from Akbar, during the former's rebellion.




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#11.

A daughter
Firoze Khannum - Born to Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba in 1575.
She was an accomplished warrior in her "own right", was HIGHLY interested in statecraft and warfare, helped her mother command her forces, and controlled the forces in the absence of her mother. The interested fact about her is that, She did NOT miss targets even while shooting with a GUN.πŸ˜‰
She was EXTREMELY beautiful. She was more Rajput in looks than Persian. She remained a spinster. There were talks of her engagement with a ruler of Badakshan(this talk about her engagement is NOT confirmed, though).




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#12.

A daughter
Aram Banu Begum - Born to Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba on December 22, 1584.
Lived through the reign of Jahangir. Died a spinster.

She was the FAVORITE, and youngest/last child of Akbar, born at age of 42. Akbar was fond of her mis-chiefs.πŸ˜† It was she, who inherited MUZ's nature of High Self-Esteem and reasoning capability, but was 'even' MORE outspoken than her mother, πŸ˜‰ had her 'pert' opinions on 'every' matter, was Akbar's darling child. She was ALSO EXTREMELY beautiful. Due to her colorful/saucy/naughty nature and flightiness, she was also called - "Butterfly of Harem". She is said to be an intelligent lady, and was a Poet, too.

Akbar used to call her -> "Ladli", i.e., Darling. She was also called "Ladli Begum".πŸ˜‰


The following is mentioned about this daughter in many manuscripts. This pertains to Akbar's and Jahangir's convo.-->

" Her disposition was on the whole inclined to excitement and heat. My father was very fond of her, so much so that " he described her impolitenesses as politenesses,πŸ˜†" and in his august sight they, from his great love, did not appear bad. Repeatedly he said : "Baba ! for my sake, be as kind, as I am, after me, to this sister, who in Hindi phrase is my darling(that is, dearly cherished). Be affectionate to her and pass over her little impolitenesses and impudence." 😊



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Endnote:


A.

All the prince and princess were well educated in languages, philosophies of various religions , Maths and Mughal law..The princesses were also educated in calligraphy, tailoring and beautification and adornment arts.


B. 'MAJOR' titles which were bestowed on Harka Bai are:

1. Wali Ni'maat
- Meaning 'Blessing of Saint' / 'Gift of God'.

2. Malika-e-Muezzama 


"Muezzama" refers to someone who is "EXCEEDINGLY" chaste, innocent, and honored.
[ Thanx to Tamy (our forum friend) for helping in finding this meaning. ]

I also tried to take views from some "enlightened people", almost all mentioned the following incident:

"
Mohammad Sahab had a cat named Muezza whom he cared for so much that, once when the cat was sleeping on his sleeve, and Mohammad Sahab had to go for prayers, that time rather than disturb the cat's sleep, he cut off the sleeve of his robe on which the cat slept, and thereafter went for the prayers, thus NOT disturbing the cat's sleep. "

^^
So, going by this explanation, it can be inferred that, She was given this title, as she was someone, who was very precious / important for Akbar.(??) And the meaning of this title itself speaks Volumes about Harka Bai.

The striking feature is that, the time at which this title was given is mentioned as follows-->>"The Amer Princess was given the title of Malika-e-Muezzama after 4 years of death of her twin sons(1564)." This means the title could have been given in 1568-69.

3.
Mariam-Uz-Zamani - Title Given after Salim's birth in 1569.

4. Queen Mother of Hindustan [ Literally, translates to Malika-e-Hindustan. ]



C.

Friends, i hope this post was informative, and at the same time provided a lot of info about the Kids, which you ALL wanted to know. 😊 The info has been compiled from MAXIMUM POSSIBLE SOURCES after a lot of cross-verification. Even after this, if any error creeps in(though very less chances), it's regretted. We are still in a process of reading and procuring MORE info on this topic. This info was presented due to Unstoppable Flood of PMs landing in our Inbox. πŸ˜ƒ
 



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Part1: 
Mariam Uz Zamani - Unknown facts about Akbar's Hindu Wife + Akbar-MUZ Relation Pg-39 + Padshah Begum P-40 + Salim's revolt - P-46

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/3782915


Part2: 
Akbar Ruqayya False Monogamy Clause, Ruqayya MC Incident, Akbar-Amer relations, etc.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/3809107


Part3:
GLORY OF FAITH : Akbar with Mariam Zamani Begum - Their Famous Painting

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/3826749



Part4:
Mughal Dresses + Holi festival + Mirza Hakim + Shivani Track info + Akbar-MUZ Convo. + Jodha's Sikri Palace + Vishkanya Track + Sher Shah Suri + Akbar was dyslexic..??.+ MUZ's last rites, etc. 
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/3848936


Part5:
Nausenas and Nazranas - Deduction from Akbarnama + MUZ's Jaagir/Palaces + Abu'l Maali +  Maham Anga's
Second son and husband + Munim's Flight + Abu'l Maali-Atga-Adham End, etc.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/3929368


Another thread:
Also, Do Visit the following. This is about Fatehpur Sikri. A forum member visited here and has provided beautiful pictures, about this place. This thread includes MANY MANY pictures of palaces, etc. there.
Link:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/3976323



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Hi All.
Following 3 comments Deal With Jahagirnama'S', as we are surely going to get questions pertaining to what is mentioned in those accounts.😊 So, read the 3 comments starting from present.

You all would be "glad / shocked"πŸ˜‰ to know that there are Multiple Versions of JahangirNama'S' available. There are variations in the available "versions" of Jahangirnamas.πŸ˜‰ So, here posting snaps of those ''Multiple''  'Jahangirnamas'.πŸ˜•

Please see ' yourself ' and try to analyze, how authentic are these "TRANSLATED" JAHANGIRNama'S'.
These Version'S' CONTRADICT each other, and are 'supposed' to written by the same person, i.e., Jahangir.πŸ˜‰πŸ˜²


Following is Version-1 of JahangirNama

 
This is called Tarikh-i-Salim Shahi. The author of this 'so-called' memoirπŸ˜‰ is unknown. This work was translated into English around late 1820's. The translator who translated this work was himself amused. πŸ˜† Read further. I mean, see the pictures.πŸ˜‰ Analyze them ' CAREFULLY ' .😳



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1. Cover Page of this Version.





The author of the work is UNKNOWN.
This Version has been translated from an anonymous manuscript.πŸ˜‰
Keep reading further.



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2. Preface/Advertisement of this particular Edition.






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3. I have especially taken the following snap from this book, from Page-46. Read carefully.😳.








a.
Note that, in this account , the name of mother of the twins is given as Bibi Aram Baksh.πŸ˜‰πŸ€’ Though, MANY here must be knowing who was the actual mother.?.πŸ˜‰ Soon, we may see this in the show as well.
Though, We've written in the MAIN post above, the name of the actual mother(i.e. MUZ). πŸ˜†

b.
Also, note that the name of mother of Khannum Sultan is also given as Salima Begum.πŸ˜‰ Though, she was TREATED as Khan Baba's 'amanat' , as per BEST searches we did. She can NOT be the mother of Akbar's Kids. 😳

For a moment, Keeping these points in mind. Let's move to another version of Jahangirnama,πŸ˜‰ below, in comment-2.!.

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Hi all.

Following is " Version-2 " of JahangirNama. πŸ˜‰

This is called Tuzuk-i-Jahangiri. This is widely known and read as well.
The author of this work is ' mentioned ' πŸ˜‰ as Jahangir.
This work was translated into English around, late first decade of 20th century.

Even the translator who translated this work, has ALSO written something serious and funny in the Preface itself. πŸ˜† I have posted the pic of the preface below. See there.πŸ˜‰

Read further. I mean see the pictures.πŸ˜‰


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3.
The much - ' AWAITED ' Preface. πŸ˜‰
This is the first page. Read the part highlighted in yellow color.







^^^^
Note the points below: (The following is something which the translator is saying HIMSELF, NOT WE.πŸ˜‰)


a.

The translator calls the previous "Version" of JahangirNama(the 1820's Version) as "garbled", i.e., distorted / obscure / twisted. πŸ˜²πŸ˜‰

b.
Moreover, no one knows, who wrote "that first VersioN" and where are it's origins.πŸ˜•πŸ₯±

c.

Further, in the very starting, read the Underlined + Highlighted Part. Even, this Version of Tuzuk-i-Jahangiri, was "MADE" from a defective Manuscript, as per the TRANSLATOR himself.πŸ˜•πŸ˜² And, he has "tried" to 'CORRECT' 🀒 those mistakes. πŸ˜• So, the very origins of this account is not authentic, leave the translation.πŸ₯±πŸ˜‰


Read further.πŸ˜‰


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4. Welcome to the Preface-Page-2. πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜•. In continuation of Page-1.


Have you seen such a preface in any book, which questions the authenticity of the work itself.?.πŸ˜†
If not seen, then read the highlighted part in yellow color. πŸ˜‰
And, see it NOW. πŸ˜‰







Special Note:
(Again, The following is something which the translator is saying HIMSELF😲, NOT WE.πŸ˜‰)


a.

The preface says that, previous Version(1820's translation) of JahangirNama is a fabrication,😲 if NOT fully then atleast in parts.πŸ˜‰ (as per the preface above.πŸ˜‰)

b.

It further states that certain statements which have been written in that Version is something which Jahangir could NEVER have written.πŸ˜‰  [ As they contradict MANY other accounts.πŸ˜• ]

c.

Moreover, that previous Version is called as spurious (fake/false/counterfeit) and garbled here in the preface.πŸ˜²πŸ˜•

d.

Finally, the translator " regretsπŸ˜•" that such a spurious and fabricated account has been given to the world, as "genuine"🀒 account of Jahangir.πŸ˜•πŸ₯±


The story is NOT over. See the snaps BELOW carefully, of this particular Version of JahangirNama.πŸ˜• Even this Version is problematic.πŸ˜•



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5.  Read this snap, Especially About Khannum Sultan.!.
(Verify the info with that of the previous Version-1 .πŸ˜‰)







Did anyone notice the following.?.::


a. 

In the Version-1 of Jahangir-Nama, the mother of Khannum Sultan was mentioned as Salima Begum, and here the mother changes πŸ˜‰ to concubine.πŸ˜²πŸ˜‰πŸ˜•

b.

BTW, How come 1 person write 2 contradictory accounts ? πŸ˜‰πŸ˜†

c.

Before you think about point b. first think, >>> Why would " 1" person write " 2 " DIFFERENT autobiographies.?. πŸ˜‰πŸ€£
  [ Isn't Something amiss.?. πŸ˜‰ ]

d.

Also, in Version -1 , the name of mother(though incorrectπŸ˜†) is mentioned. And in this Version, the account ONLY says the mother was a concubine.πŸ˜•

What is happening ? πŸ˜‰ Keep reading. πŸ˜ƒ Read further.πŸ˜†



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6. See this also. This is about Death of Salima Begum. [ May that Noble Soul RIP. ] 😊








^^^^^
Did anyone notice.?.


a.
Here, Salima Begum is mentioned in such a respectable manner.
So, how can Jahangir say that she was a concubine😲.?.πŸ˜•. ( If she was ACTUALLY the mother of Khannum Sultan as per Version-1 ?.πŸ˜‰,🀒 'Coz here the mother of Khannum Sultan is said to be a concubine.πŸ˜•πŸ₯±) 
So, who was the mother of Khannum Sultan.?.>> A concubine or Salima Begum OR ' NONE of these ' ? πŸ˜‰
BTW,  Is Jahangir the " actual " author here.?. πŸ˜‰

b.
BTW, Did you notice, Even the age of Salima Begum has been wrongly mentioned in this account.πŸ˜† Because this account says Salima Begum died at the age of 60 in 1613.πŸ˜•
 But, Salima Begum was married to Bairam Khan in 1557. And, if we consider this account as correct then it means that she was 4 years old when she married Bairam Khan.πŸ˜‰πŸ˜²πŸ€’ .!.
 Well the translator has corrected this mistake of Jahangir . (?πŸ˜‰ or was it someone else's mistake.?.πŸ˜‰)

[
Should i laugh or cry πŸ˜•, after pointing out all these in-consistencies in JahangirNama. πŸ˜• There are MORE mistakes and contradictions in this account.
Though, i am not mentioning all here.πŸ₯±
]




Read further. Final ShowDown in the Third Comment Below. πŸ˜‰
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Hi all.

This comment compares the above 2 Versions of JahangirNamas.
A Critical Analysis.




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Food For Thought:



If both the above Versions of 'so-called'πŸ˜‰ JahangirNama are correct, then how come Jahangir, write the following - "3 different remarks" for one-person, i.e., Salima Begum.?.πŸ˜•

i.
Version -1 says mother of Khannum Sultan was Salima Begum.πŸ˜•

ii.

Version-2 says mother of Khannum Sultan was a Concubine. πŸ˜•πŸ˜²

iii.

Can Jahangir dare to call SB a concubine πŸ˜²πŸ‘ŽπŸΌ , if so.?., then how come he write such good words about her in Version -2, as shown in 6th Picture above .?.πŸ˜• Don't these accounts contradict.?.

[ As far as we know, Salima Begum was HIGHLY RESPECTED lady , and Akbar married her for giving "sahara" only. ] So, this term concubine can NOT / NEVERRR  be correct. 😳


The MOST striking thing is >>>>
1. "Why do we have more than ONE Versions of autobiography of ONE Person" ,πŸ˜‰
2. "Why do these versions contradict each other.?.πŸ˜‰ 
3. "Not only they contradict each other, but they contradict other accounts as well.
πŸ˜‰

Do we need Sherlock to un-earth the problem here.?.πŸ˜‰



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Moral -->


a.
Why do we have so many versions of autobiography of ONE person.?. [ We saw this for the first time. πŸ˜† ]

b.
Was Jahangir experimenting with the autobiography ? πŸ˜†  " Or, someone else 'experimented' LATER with it.?." πŸ˜²πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰

c.

Why,  'so-called' different Jahangir's accounts are contradicting in giving the name of mother of the SAME kid.?.πŸ˜‰

d.

Why Version-1, "WRONGLY" says mother of twins was Bibi Aram Baksh ? [ While the actual mother was MUZ. 😳 ]

e.

Biggest Question --> Who "actually" wrote this Jahangirnama which is available to us AT PRESENT .?. πŸ˜‰   [ We may NEVER know this. 😊 But, certainly something is AMISS here. !!!! . ]



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Friends, not only this-->>::


1.
Even, Murad and Daniyal's mothers are assigned to some "un-known" concubines. πŸ₯±πŸ€’


(

Again,
a. In Version-1, Some names are given for mother of Daniyal and Murad.πŸ˜†(I am Not writing the names here.)
b. BUT Version-2 simply writes the term concubine. No name is mentioned in Version-2.πŸ˜•

BTW, We could not understand,
i.
Why in one Version, "Explicit names" are mentioned and in "another" no name is mentioned.?.πŸ˜‰
ii.
If same person has written these accounts, then why such inconsistency in reporting.?. 😳
And, Most important Question, What was the need to write more than 1 autobiography.?. Or why DID so many different Manuscripts came into existence.?.πŸ˜†πŸ˜‰
iii.

Or, someone else did it  "LATER" .?.πŸ˜‰
)



2.
Same is the case for, Shak-run-Nissa Begum and Aram Bano Begum. (Both these daughters are assigned to Bibi Daulat Shad.πŸ₯±)

^^^^^ , Though, mother was MUZ for them. πŸ˜•
 
Then, Why do JahangirNama gives such contradicting info ? πŸ˜•.πŸ˜‰.
[ Even the translator HIMSELF has labelled Version-1 to be spurious,😲 and Version-2 also contradicts many accounts.πŸ˜‰ ]

Why is MUZ's identity in such a state.?.
πŸ₯± Anyone can guess after reading this, the reasons behind this.πŸ˜•



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BTW, Guys, We have done enough of "indirect" TALK.
Now, let me tell YOU, how this translation of JahangirNama was done ACTUALLY . 😊


It is said, Tuzuk-i-Jahangiri is closest to authenticity. πŸ˜‰
[ PS - It is 'closest' to authenticity, not ''totally'' authentic.]

There are even more versions of JahangirNama'S' , 🀒 other then those 2 mentioned above.πŸ˜•
[
We have NOT read these following, as we could NOT procure them.πŸ˜•
So, mentioning only their names here.
]

1.
    Another Version of JahangirNama.
    Urdu Translation by Munshi Ahmed Ali Sahab , Aligarh
    "Made from" "Muhammed Hadi's 'edition' of JahangirNama" under the patronage of Muhammed Ibrahim Ali Khan, Nawab of Tonk, Aligarh.
    This was published in 1874, by Nawal Kishore. πŸ˜•

2.
    Hindi Translation by Munshi Debi Prasad
    Published in 1905 at Calcutta by Bharat Mitra Press

3.
   The Urdu Translation referred to by Mr. Blumhardt in his Catalogue of Hindustani ManuScripts., page-61, and noticed by Elliot, in his Volume 6, Pg-401, and Garcin de Tassy, Volume- iii, Pg-301, is, as the two latter writers have remarked, is a translation of Iqbal-Nama. πŸ˜•



Following Points-> (4,5) are written by the translator of JahangirNama, Mr. Henry Beveridge, in the Preface of Tuzuk-i-Jahangiri.πŸ˜‰πŸ˜† [ I am NOT posting the picture of preface, but writing what he says. ]

Just try to See how this JahangirNama has been translated.  Infact, you will come to know that, this Version is a patchwork of some manuscripts, which reached in the hands of Mr. Beveridge, in a dramatic manner, and those manuscripts have been translated into Tuzuk-i-Jahangiri.
πŸ˜•


Till now we have seen, Points-1,2,3 above. Now see more manuscripts of ' JahangirNama ' .πŸ˜•πŸ€’

4.
"Another ManuScript,πŸ₯±" referred to by Elliot, in his Volume-6, Pg-277, as having been in the possession of General Thomas Paterson Smith, which is described in Ethe's Catalogue of the Indian Office ManuScripts, No. 2833, Pg-1533, was "made by" πŸ˜• Sayyid Mohammed, elder brother of Sayyid Ahmed.

At the end of the ManuScript, the copyist gives some account of himself and of his family. He made the copy of this manuscript from copies in the Royal Library in the possession of Raja Roghu Nath Singh. He finished it in October 1843. Sayyid Mohammed was Munshi of Hatgam in the Fatehpur District. He died young in 1845. My friend, Mr. TW Arnold, of the Indian Office, informs me that Sayyid Ahmad told him that he found a valuable illustrated ManuScript of the Tuzuk-i-Jahangiri, in the debris of the Delhi Royal Library, but that was lost when his house was plundered by the mutineers. πŸ˜• There is in the Bodleian a copy  in Sayyid Ahmad's own handwriting. He states that he made use of " 10 " good Manuscripts.πŸ˜‰πŸ˜• The Englishman at whose request he made the copy was once Sessions Judge of Delhi. The copy is present in the Bodleian Catalogue, p.117,No.221. The MS No. 220 is described on the same page was brought home by Fraser, is a good one but goes to the end of 14th Year.

H. Beveridge
March, 1909

5.
POSTSCRIPT

Since writing this Preface I have been enabled by the kindness of Mr. Irvine to examine the Hindi JahangirNama of Debi Prasad. It is not a translation, but an abstract, and I do not think it is of much value. Being a Jodhpur man he has been able, perhaps, to correct some spellings of places, but he does not seem to have consulted any manuscript, and when he comes to a difficulty he shirks it. The most valuable adjunct to the Tuzuk, after the IqbalNama, is the Ma'asir-i-Jahangiri of Kamgar usaini. It is important as giving the early history of Jahangir, that is, of the time when he was Prince Salim. There are three copies of his work in the British Museum, but the so-called Ma'asir-i-Jahangiri of the India Office Library, No. 3098, or 324 of the new Catalogue, is only a copy of the IqbalNama.

I regret that the number of Errata and Addenda is so large, but when I began the revision I did not know that Sayyid Amad's text was so incorrect. It will be seen that at pp. 158 and 162 I have made two erroneous notes.

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Conclusion:

a.
So, many versions of one account of Jahangir.?.πŸ˜‰ [ Till date, still counting.πŸ˜†πŸ˜• ]
b. And, they are a 'patchwork' of many manuscripts. πŸ˜‰
c. And, on top of that they all contradict each other. πŸ˜•

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BTW Guys, if anyone wants to know, who these 2 people were, which Henry Beveridge mentioned in the Point 4 and 5, above.  -->> Sayeed Mohommad and Sayeed Ahmed, then let me tell you that, i tried to find about the background of these 2 people also.πŸ˜† Though not mentioning here, as this is NOT required. 😊

So, you see, these accounts are is a patch-work of So-many sources.πŸ˜• And, has passed through so many hands and contains Multiple Versions and different Manuscripts.

Is it an authentic source for every information.? Decide yourself, as the reality is something else. These memoirs contradict it's other versions at times and then contradicts other info also, especially the one relating to Akbar's Kids.πŸ˜• 

As we have written many times, digging history is very interesting, one should try to VERIFY it with Multiple Sources.!!. JahangirNama is NOT the end, as far as digging on Akbar's kids is considered. You have yourself seen the contradictions. There are many other sources. You just need to search and DIG more. 😊


It's NOT that, the ORIGINAL Persian Text was found "SAFELY CONCEALED" and the translator translated the account and we all are reading that.πŸ˜•


The story is entirely different. And, i have quoted how this Jahangirnama was translated. We found it an UNRELIABLE Source. Not only we, even the translator found it un-reliable.

BTW, The issue is clear.

Why do we have Multiple Jahangirnamas , and why do these contradict each other, and at times give WRONG information, if they are correct.?.



BTW, Next time if anyone of you start reading any historical account, then TRY to go to the ROOTS of that account, and SEE how "AUTHENTIC"πŸ₯± it is.!!!. πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜‰


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Hi all,

Continuing here..😊
After enough Dose of JahangirNama,πŸ˜‰ above, here mentioning some contemporary accounts / researches. By now, it must be clear Why and How MUZ's name has almost vanished from Mughal accounts.πŸ˜• 

The following accounts in some way or other relate to Akbar and MUZ
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1.
This is from - Journal of the American Oriental Society, Volume-108, Number-2, Edition - April - June 1988, Page-227/228/229, by Ellison B. Findly.

I am posting 4 snaps from that paper. It's well referenced from contemporary accounts NOT Modern Ones, and has given the reason for the absence of the name of Mariam-Uz-Zamani, from the Mughal history. πŸ˜•

Also, a brief incident describing the seizure of her Ship - Rahimi, by the Portuguese has been mentioned there. Have a look.




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This mentions her as wife of Emperor Akbar and daughter of Raja Bharmal.








d. The following picture is the reference for the Above^^ picture. Note the last 3-4 lines.









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2.

This is an account, written in between 1590's and 1610-11, is called ' Gulshan-e-Ibrahimi ' OR sometimes referred as ' Tarikh-i-Firishta '. The author is Abu'l Qa'asim Firishta. This account was FIRST published from Bombay in 1832.



About this account:

This book gives a ' BRIEF ' history of India, right from the time, from the spread of Islam to Iran and its arrival in India, and the book continues to the early years of Jahangir's reign. This book also gives a description of Mahabharata battle with a description of the Hindu society also. Basic idea of this book was to compile a brief history of India since the time Islam came to Hindustan.  The author was itself very excited at such a prospect. πŸ˜‰




Overall, giving a brief description about the whereabouts of this account.

This book was written on the orders of his master. He stayed in the court of ruler of Bijapur, Ibrahim Adil Shah.  Before that he was in the court of Ruler of Ahmednagar, but soon he left the place due to discrimination, as he was a Shia. The work started around 1590's and completed around 1610. This book has drawn it's references from about 27 contemporary chronicles, to write history of Pre-Mughal Period, though at some places the dates mis-match in this account. The book has 4 volumes.



What's our interest here.?.
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In the 2nd Volume, the author has given a " VERY " brief account of Mughal  Emperors upto Jahangir's early years. There is nothing new is this book to be read about Mughals.

But, one thing caught my attention, while i was going through this account in search of Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum. While describing Akbar, the book stated that - "In 1569, the FAVORITE Sultana of Akbar gave birth to a Prince who was named Salim." πŸ˜‰
I do not have the exact page number but it is mentioned near Page-168 in the English Translation in Volume-2.




Friends, I am mentioning this particular line due to following reasons:



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The author mentions that Favorite Sultana/Wife of Akbar gave birth to Prince Salim.
So, even before giving birth to Salim "also", she was his favorite.?.

[ Infact, the manner in which the line is written in that account, is itself a substantial evidence in this regard. Isn't it.?.  ]




b.
Another point being that, the author wrote this book on the orders of ruler in whose court he stayed. And, he mentions Mother of Salim as Akbar's "favorite wife". Also, He is NOT under any sort of obligation to mention Mother of Salim as Akbar's favorite Sultana or even mention her.
Still, he mentions her as Akbar' favorite Sultana. So, doesn't this show that, her name was spread far and wide as Akbar's favorite or beloved,  so much so that even a book commissioned by ruler of Deccani State had her reference .?. πŸ˜‰πŸ˜²


I and my 2 fellow researcher friends have NO doubt about MUZ being his beloved, but writing this point ONLY for those who need and always ASK, where is THIS WRITTEN that she was Akbar's Favorite.?.πŸ˜•

[ Note: This fact has been written ONLY to answer REPEATED PMs asking us the REFERENCE, even of this thing.!!!!!..πŸ˜‰. So, writing this OPENLY, as we DO have it.. ]

Hope that point is addressed here. Try to find this book, and read it. The translation of this book is NOT available easily. 😊 The Persian version (had around 1050 pages) was available with me, though i don't know how to read it. πŸ˜• 



c.

Another striking co-incidence is that, before the death of Prince Daniyal, the author(Abu'l Qa'asim) was, for a brief time, present with him in 1604, at Mungi Paitan, near Godavari river, as he was escorting Sultana Begum, the daughter of Ibrahim Adil Shah for marriage to Prince Daniyal.



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Interestingly, the author met Jahangir after his accession to the throne, as a nominee of the ruler of Bijapur, to congratulate Jahangir. The author(Abu'l Qa'asim) was a courtier of High Status in the court of Ibrahim Adil Shah. Jahangir Used to call Adil Shah as his SON..!!!..





Also, Tried to dig the history of this account, so let me mention it also.
Read below. 😊

This account was translated on the request of Sir James Mackintosh, then President of the Literary Society of Bombay, in early 19th Century. This account has survived after lot of hassles. This account was present with the translator at Pune around 1815, when he had almost finished the translations and made SEVERAL copies of it. 😊

This person had a library of such rare accounts, at his place. But, before the Third Anglo-Maratha War, in 1818, the Peshwa's and English forces fought in Pune, that time, the house of this official was damaged and it got burnt on 5th November, 1817, in the war while besieging the Pune residency. πŸ˜• The author mentions, the ONLY chronicle which survived was this Present Work, which i am quoting here. Rest all books were burnt. 😲 Even this particular chronicle was burnt, but it was copied and sent to a friend by the author before this war, because he was already in a process to get it printed, 😊 and after the end of war, the author procured this account from his friend and finally got it printed in 1832.

And, in this ENTIRE account of 4 Volumes, Only 1 particular Line was of my interest,πŸ˜† and hence i quoted it here. Kudos to the original author(Abu'l Qa'asim) for noting down such a minute detail and a GREAT thanx to the author/translator for preserving this account, and by luck i chanced to hit upon this account and finally this line, which is a CLEAR indication that, She(MUZ) was very famous even as far as Deccan States, that the author even in a brief description of History of India, did NOT forget to mention her as Akbar's favorite Sultana .!!. The thing which is most noteworthy is that - the author is a "contemporary person", not any later scholar.!!!!.


This text is present in the Bikaner House in Rajasthan.😊 Anyone in Rajasthan ? Then the person Can find this account there.


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This is about another account, called, ' Khulasat-ut-Tawarikh ' , written by Sujan Rai Bhandari, in Punjab{Lahore}. This work was originally written in 17th Century. It has been published from Delhi in 1918, ed. Zafar Hasan. It is a general history from early times of India to the 1660's.

The striking feature of this account is that, this account mentions the names of approx. 9-10 (legal) wives of Akbar. And, in this list of wives, the name of Mariam-Uz-Zamani, appears as the Third Wife of Akbar. Her name appears as -> Wali Ni'maat Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba.




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4.

In the accounts of Colonel James Tod, The Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan, in Volume-2, on Page-27, he talks of a Rajput Wife of Akbar. This account was published in London, by George Routlege & Sons, in 1914. Originally, this book was written around 1830.

And, since the last 450 years, we have the tale of Akbar and his Hindu Wife in the ENTIRE Golden Triangle region of India. Those who live here, know about them, before the MOVIE and before this SERIAL. 😊




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5.

Though, in the main Post of Kids, above, it has been mentioned many times how reverently Abu'l Fazl has addressed Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum.

But here, mentioning one more instance from Akbarnama where Abu'l Fazl, has  described the Princess of Amer, the Eldest Daughter of Raja Bharmal, in VERY BEAUTIFUL words as -->

"His eldest daughter, in whose forehead shone the lights of chastity and intellect, among the attendants on the glorious pavilion."

Reference:
Akbarnama, Volume-2, by Abu'l Fazl, Page-242

I am quoting the line as it is. These are the EXACT Words. Isn't it beautiful ?
Though Abu'l Fazl writes, in a Mesmerizing Manner, but such a description is beyond my imagination. Concise and Beautiful.!.

This was Fazl's description of Harka Bai/ MUZ, when she married Akbar at Sambhar. πŸ˜‰
What Abu'l Fazl means is that,-->  " Among all the ladies of the Harem(glorious pavillion) , it was daughter of Raja Bharmal, who had outshone them. " πŸ˜†



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6.
Friends, there are more such descriptions about her, BUT they need to be searched with a microscope.πŸ˜‰ Lets stop this here. Will quote the remaining descriptions LATER.πŸ˜ƒ


All one need to do is to DIG and DIG and DIG and DIG more about them, as theirs is a story which NEEDS to be analyzed from a different sense. And, surely there is TRUTH in their story. She was IMPORTANT to Akbar, not because of the heir, but due to other reasons.

Her titles, other than Mariam-Uz-Zamani, which were bestowed on her (quoted above in main post), do give a sense that she was MUCH more to Akbar, and NOT ONLY the mother of his heir. Why she was present with him even in his Wars.?.  Even contemporary accounts(some of which are mentioned here), describe her as his close one. Why.?. Just ponder over ALL the points above coupled with the fact, WHY she was removed from the history..?..Was she SO Important.?.  YOu will get your answers.

I was myself a SERIOUS CRITIC of this story.πŸ˜† But, changed it entirely after searching and digging a LOT. 😊 I am a BELIEVER now. I need not speak. Facts Speak themselves. Also, Thanx to KDR81 and Lizzy2012 also, for they have been in this digging Job, years before i joined in recently.

Despite the presence of any number of wives, they had something Unique between them. ❀️ 
That's why they are still remembered, [ Esp. the Golden Triangle Region - Jaipur, Agra, Delhi .!!. ], no matter how much records are tampered and destroyed.
The posts above are an articulation of the same fact.


RIP: Akbar - MUZ.


Edited by history_geek - 9 years ago
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Hi all.

This is a final comment after series of LONGGG comments here.
The following pages have been taken from a book, whose details are also mentioned in the pics.
This book was compiled under the patronage of the British Government.
The compilation of the records started in 1800's and finally the book was published in early 20th century.
The reason for taking out this account was to know about the Indian History, so that Indians could be governed in a better manner.

Though, this book, is like a normal history account. But in this account also, i got one striking point. The author makes a comment about a Rajput Princess, who was the favorite wife of Akbar.πŸ˜‰ Hence, got the ENTIRE account of Akbar scanned from the book. At some places, the book was tattered beyind scanning ability. But, i have tried to scan everyh possible corner.

Enjoy the account of Akbar. And, also a BRIEF mention of a favorite Rajput Princess.πŸ˜‰
Mind it : This account in more than 100 Years Old.πŸ˜‰


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^^^ Note:--->>> See the above Line.



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^^^^^Friends, Also see the annual revenue estimates of Akbar's period. 😊


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The Motive of providing above scans was to show that, the Tale of Jodha Akbar is NEITHER creation of Ashutosh's movie NOR creation of Ekta's serial.

Their Story has been there. It was there since the LAST 450 YEARS.
JUST needs to be explored from a DIFFERENT perspective.

Even 100's years OLD accounts mention them. [ Like the above one. ]

One needs to search a LOT to know on them.

No wonder, Ekta took a Team of researchers, who bit the dust of accounts for 2+ years.
Atleast, we can understand the EFFORT.!. It's TOO tough..😊


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EndNote:

Friends, Lot of precautions have been taken in posting the info relating to Akbar-MUZ kids.
But, not having access to All-India Records has it's Own shortcomings. πŸ˜•
Though, we hope the information about Kids comes out to be 100% correct.
We have
tried our best and written ONLY that much part which we were assured off, FINALLY..
Though,  STILL searching, SO we will update if any future info/change is discovered.
The show will ALSO clear a lot of air. 😊


Edited by history_geek - 9 years ago
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Hi All,
   First of all, i would like to confer a Title to our Abhay   " History-Buff-Uz -Zamani"πŸ˜ƒ  πŸ‘
Becoz I know the exact extent of effort and dedication that has gone into this compilation...!!😳

I am not aware of any other person of his age ,whom I have seen indulging in such back-breaking Job of a Historian...himself being from a different background.!!😊

I know seeing the above list, many may think that this is from a biased view...but rest assured , it is NOT...!!πŸ₯±

The Chronicles and anecdotes really really Pointed to only ONE DIRECTION...i.e. MUZ to be the mother of most of the kids...!!


Just wanted to say this 1st...rest I shall post later...

Hope our IF friends who were patiently waiting till now will enjoy this treat from US πŸ˜ƒ


Regards,
Kamal

---RES----
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whoa!!! read the entire thread! it took an hour for me to read every line written/posted here.😲
first of all, Abhay take a bow dost!!πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ let me stand up and clap for you...πŸ‘πŸ‘you deserve all of our applause, appreciation, praises for this wonderful wonderful work and making us "mukhatib" to the truth!!β­οΈπŸ‘πŸ‘πŸΌ

Many many thanks to Kamal Di and Lizzy!!πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ€—You 3 are the jewels of this forum.⭐️⭐️⭐️

And also thanks to those unnamed friends who have huge contribution to this thread.πŸ‘πŸ‘

now coming to the thread, 10 kids from MUZ???😲😲πŸ€ͺ are u serious???πŸ€ͺ ☺️Jalal, kabhi toh Jodha ko rest diya karoπŸ˜†πŸ˜†β˜ΊοΈ I always knew his most kids were from his lady love only☺️but couldnt imagine the number would be 10😲 matlab almost har saal mein 1 bacchaπŸ˜‰πŸ˜†

I cant even imagine how JaJo passed through the storm when 4 of their children died😭😭😭

the show is following the timeline...as it is 1563 going on, so we will see Jodha being pregnant probably after their next anniversary or it could be in end of Ruqu fake preggy track as per CVs wish😊 (I want the latter thoughπŸ˜‰), here we will have Prince Hassan-Hussain, followed by their death(😭) and JaJo's Sikri trip.
I am so happy they had twins first, it is so romantic I am eager to see how Jalal teases Jodha having twinsπŸ˜‰πŸ˜†

Abhay, it seems Shahzadi Khanum and Khanum Sultan are same...then why did you mention her separately in no. 6 & 7?


I was shocked at the same time ROFLed reading the various accounts of "Jahangirnaama"😲🀣 and people fall in those?πŸ˜• even the translator very well pointed out how these are fabricated/distorted!!πŸ₯±πŸ€’

loved every book has MUZ mentioned in them and how she was Akbar's favorite wife.😳

I bookmarked this thread, as will read it whenever Jodha will become pregnant to know now which baby is comingπŸ˜†

Thank you 3 jewels...we are honored to have you in this forum.πŸ€—


Take a bowπŸ‘πŸ‘
Edited by tamy267 - 9 years ago
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Thanks Abhay, Kamal and Liz for such valuable info! πŸ˜ƒ
I read the thread before your PM Abhay! πŸ˜†
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Absolutely Wonderful! β­οΈ

From the first glance itself, it seems like a thoroughly researched and painstakingly compiled work of art. 

I can't thank enough Abhay (what a wonderful title History Buff-uz-Zamani!), Kamal, Lizzy and all the nameless friends who have brought this treasure trove to us! πŸ‘

More later after detailed reading! πŸ˜Š
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