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Posted: 3 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: kavitha_r

Maintaining celibacy is not a big deal. What is the use of those things when Virat didn't give regard to her presence? I agree that he supported her in her education and accomplishing her dreams, and went against the family. But he didn't stand by her when it mattered the most.

Virat always chose Pakhi over her, which he should change once and for all.

Yeah pakhi as issue should really be addressed by Virat this is the root cause of all his life's problems but really is it now a topic that what sai did was right or wrong because pakhi is the mother of vinu now and whatever sai said that she doesn't want to leave house but leaving just because she didn't want her child to have aisi parvarish was really the same lady who admired Vinu as a child and the love they have for their child so pakhi sudhar gayi thi but sai chalu gai galatfahmi me it was sai who was totally wrong there, monopolistic behaviour towards child is always a crime and blackmailing a father with it is sin and Virat's support was needed the most at that time when you yourself decided to take vinu away so I don't think so sai needed virat the most infact Virat needed someone to give sai a medicine of understanding the decision and then taking that level of action

~ it's simple as that as if Virat would have taken savi away from sai just taking into consideration the past of jagtap and he would have been a part of his family and of couse sudhar gaya hota then this monopolistic behaviour towards savi of Virat would have been addressed strongly everyone would have been like who is he to take decisions about savi on his own only and if that could have resulted in savi's death everyone would have declared him the murderer of savi but this isn't the view they have when it's sai they are like savi ke baare me nhi batake shi kiya..... Great

it's totally wrong and these all are crimes that are not being addressed and sai decides to apply restrictions on Virat w.r.t. savi is not at all is allowed declaring yourself as single mother is not allowed if father is capable of taking

Edited by Vlover - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: Vlover

Yeah pakhi as issue should really be addressed by Virat this is the root cause of all his life's problems but really is it now a topic that what sai did was right or wrong because pakhi is the mother of vinu now and whatever sai said that she doesn't want to leave house but leaving just because she didn't want her child to have aisi parvarish was really the same lady who admired Vinu as a child and the love they have for their child so pakhi sudhar gayi thi but sai chalu gai galatfahmi me it was sai who was totally wrong there, monopolistic behaviour towards child is always a crime and blackmailing a father with it is sin and Virat's support was needed the most at that time when you yourself decided to take vinu away so I don't think so sai needed virat the most infact Virat needed someone to give sai a medicine of understanding the decision and then taking that level of action

~ it's simple as that as if Virat would have taken savi away from sai just taking into consideration the past of jagtap and he would have been a part of his family and of couse sudhar gaya hota then this monopolistic behaviour towards savi of Virat would have been addressed strongly everyone would have been like who is he to take decisions about savi on his own only and if that could have resulted in savi's death everyone would have declared him the murderer of savi but this isn't the view they have when it's sai they are like savi ke baare me nhi batake shi kiya..... Great

it's totally wrong and these all are crimes that are not being addressed and sai decides to apply restrictions on Virat w.r.t. savi is not at all is allowed declaring yourself as single mother is not allowed if father is capable of taking

Pakhi is only a surrogate mother. But Sai is Vinu's biological mother. She also loves Vinu as much as Pakhi does.

But Pakhi is evil and manipulative. Even she tried to leave CN with Vinu and settle in Mumbai. She went to the extent of telling the child that Sai is a sorceress in the form of a story, while it was the other way round.

Pakhi was the one who kept stalking Sai and kept an eye on Virat despite being Samrat's wife. Even Pakhi has monopolistic behavior towards Vinu.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Moor278

Ujanpur is track in KD where Rono is fully in support of Emon and she doesn't give him bhaav.

Pretty similar to V Sai equation right now.

Him camping outside her house is same to what Rono did.


If Vanku has selectively picked up KD again, then V will repent and regret his mistakes and will make up for it.

In KD there's a fake organ racket or something which is blamed on Emon. Here it looks like goons.



I so want the repenting and regretting but I haven’t the least bit of trust in Vankar & his manipulation in the hands of a certain RC.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: sadiltl

I asked this to few friends before! Wanting to know more about sai’s mindset.


What I think lately is that sai knows virat didn’t move on with pakhi after picnic accident. The vows freaked her out. Later seeing pakhi’s situation she would have also understood virat would not have consummated with her. Somewhere she knows he is a celibate without her. Still she will not accept him because for her I think his emotional involvement has been the problem always.

See how she accuses him of understanding pakhi’s mamta but not hers. How he supports her every time and picks pakhi over her. It is like pre leap only. She might think he didn’t change a bit after she is gone. He still takes pakhi’s side, now more because she is his wife.

Ultimately his celibacy is just a cherry on cake for sai. He is celibate which gives her some comfort but that is not enough for her! What mattered to her always, even when they had healthy and active sex life was that he didn’t support her when needed. So if virat gives back vinu to her, she will melt for him. She knows he misses her physically so she might be okay with his closeness. Though she might not let him cross the line?? Tomorrow if pakhi accuses her of seducing him which she already did multiple times during pani puri date also, sai will not get offended. But if Virat supports her and puts pakhi down, it will melt her more.

Bottom line is proving celibacy is not a big deal, sai might already know he is celibate. No one will consummate with a bleeding from stitches kind of a lady. And she knew after picnic that virat loved her always. The vows are the major setback to her. His involvement with her. How will he prove to sai that there were no emotions involved when he is sharing his space and time with pakhi?

To understand my point better, contrast it with virat himslef. He was agitated that sai slept with another guy. He didn’t see a man lingering around sai. She doesn’t have anyone with her. But the thought of her sleeping with another man who could be savi’s father troubled him more. Once he found savi is his daughter, he understood easily sai never cheated him. Or have such feelings for anyone. But how can sai be sure, even if she know he is celibate?

For sai it is his emotional infedility that freaks her. Now that he is married, he is emotionally involved with pakhi. How will he prove her his love? Only way is to prioritize her at every step. Show her that she comes first!!! Right?

It is hard to clearly put out my thoughts on this! The summary is virat’s celibacy doesn’t matter to sai anymore. She might Already know he is celibate. What matters is his emotional investment in pakhi!

Ok, I didn’t feel qualified to say something on this topic because I haven't followed the show as closely from the start as most of you here. But as much as I've seen and understood Sai and Virat, there are a few things I feel about them...

I read somewhere that between a couple, always there's one that loves and one that allows the loving.. In Sairat, it's been Virat who has loved and Sai "allowed" him.. Sai seems to me to be a girl who was never much into romantic love, her sexuality was also very late in development and of rather low intensity. As Virat says to her once she's only been loved and hasn't loved anyone or lost a love.. I think something like that.. So throughout their relationship it was Virat who always showed the love in different ways and she received, at first unwillingly and later after realization, with gratitude and joy. But no matter how much ever she was accepting of Virat's love in later times, he was always sort of dispensable for her, it seems. Quite closely on the heels of her realization of romantic love, came the love of motherhood.. And of course that easily superseded it then. Virat was pushed to second place to her child.. That's why she was able to so strongly stick to her resolve of leaving with Vinu.. The love for the child was there but if her love for her husband had been equally strong she would not have found it that simple to just leave.. Everybody is so emphatic in their support of Sai in that situation.. But I feel that was a terrible strategical mistake that cost her the battle. At that point she was the strongest, everybody was on her side.. It only required a little tact and patience to get back the baby from P, and Virat and Ashwini would definitely have helped her in every way they could if she had stayed back and given them some time. But Sai was in a panic and stubborn as always ..and it was understandable given their history.. But what I'm saying is that it proves Virat was dispensable for her.

People want another man in her life who will love her like nobody else.. But for one thing, I think Virat has loved her like that..the problem with him was the burden of family and Pakhi ka baggage.. And yet if we see from the beginning, despite the harsh environment of CN, the carved in stone family traditions, the venomous aggression of Pakhi and Sai's own indifference, his love for her took root and grew and eventually sparked feelings in Sai's heart too. That shows that it's a pretty strong and a very deep love. Secondly, Sai loving one man was itself a miracle, I don't think she'll be able to love another one, that too at this stage of her life.. No matter how wonderful he may be and how ever much he would love her..

As for Virat, if we keep aside what is shown on the screen, and go by the script, Virat's character has not been that inconsistent as appears at first. While seeing the early episodes, I came across one thing that kind of clears up much of his behavior.. We know he is a messed up, very much flawed man, with a lot of baggage in the form of family and the kind of upbringing he's had. He was always taught Duty, Farz is first, by his father. Then, that duty and emotions should always be kept separate, by his guru Kamal Joshi. And his police training and experience also teaches him this: that farz, should be decided by the haalat, not by jazbaat.

This last point I think is the one that has played havoc with his life..After Sai's death, under family pressure and Pakhi's unrelenting "sympathy and support", and in his own state of emotional instability, farz was decided by the haalat even though his jazbaat would have gone against it. And till now he is trying to keep up the farz. Sai coming back and all that happened with Savi's reveal caused the anger at the feeling of betrayal he must have felt to suppress the love, but couldn't kill it..which again shows the strength of that love.. I am not considering the way the execution of this part of the story was butchered, and whatever off screen dynamics may have come in play, but only going by the script, the overall narrative. So in this way, I don't think Virat has some hidden motive or plan, as you suggest, but is only acting like the man he is and as his twisted sense of duty leads him to. After his marriage with Sai, in the beginning, his developing feelings coincided with his duty towards her, so it was easy for him to love and be in love. Now, after his realization of love for Sai that never died, fate is again favouring him by aligning his duty with his emotions and pointing towards doing right by the woman who is the mother of his children, and who has had her son snatched from her, and whose life and the life of their daughter is in danger. So now, Virat is again happily going around his duty towards Sai.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Thats beautiful Austen... and quite an interesting take.

Few points I agree with... that V has always felt Sai can leave him and she has done that many times... even though she came back.

This time (pre leap fight) the hurt was too much and both suffered alone. V even though is married to P, is not happy.

And till Vinu's reveal was simmering with the loss.



Great writeup... Are you trying to live up to your username? 😳

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Thank you Moor..😊

I live in an old-fashioned joint family and can understand how the pressure works on Virat.. An interesting, tortured soul he is.. Poor guy 😬

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Very interesting..

I cannot justify any behaviour of virat .. he trying to help has always harmed others . So better him staying and let them sink or swim

Is Virat’s farz more towards his family n second wife so much so that he let his wife n infant kid walk away ..


I need to see vinu n Savi both chosing Sai .. giving Virat the farz talk .. that their farz is to support their mother .. as they are the only family to her

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Trust and respect is completely absent after remarriage of sairat.

Not only Pakhi he hear everything from his family and trust them and feel their pain not Sai...he actually don't know where he have to stand for his partner....Virat ka character don't know when his partner needs him,what hurt his partner🤣

returning back to Virat for a woman like Sai is insulting.

Story m kuch b dikha de....I want proper explanation from writer why Virat hurt Sai again and again and come after sometime to say sorry.how writer will justify Virat action of going to honeymoon with Pakhi. For honeymoon Virat himself made plans not Pakhi.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fghhysuji

Trust and respect is completely absent after remarriage of sairat.

Not only Pakhi he hear everything from his family and trust them and feel their pain not Sai...he actually don't know where he have to stand for his partner....Virat ka character don't know when his partner needs him,what hurt his partner🤣

returning back to Virat for a woman like Sai is insulting.

Story m kuch b dikha de....I want proper explanation from writer why Virat hurt Sai again and again and come after sometime to say sorry.how writer will justify Virat action of going to honeymoon with Pakhi. For honeymoon Virat himself made plans not Pakhi.

There are lot of things amiss from the story..sairat story lost substance...im yet to understand the value that hold for each other..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sinmegh

Very interesting..

I cannot justify any behaviour of virat .. he trying to help has always harmed others . So better him staying and let them sink or swim

Is Virat’s farz more towards his family n second wife so much so that he let his wife n infant kid walk away ..


I need to see vinu n Savi both chosing Sai .. giving Virat the farz talk .. that their farz is to support their mother .. as they are the only family to her

Definitely there's no justification for Virat.. I am thinking from his perspective about the reasons for his conflicted behavior..

Yes both Vinu and Savi should choose Sai, even I want this only.. How they will bring Sairat together again, I have no idea.. Or how Sai will come to a place of acceptance again.. Let us see.

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