KMTMG Discussions Thread #10 - Page 39

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Love: even I'll say they are in love.

Trust: She trusts him... I will say he doesn't. Many of his dialogues (even todays dialogues) suggest he likes her only because she is good to him... ek conflict aa jaye and baat badlegi - from his side. She will handle the conflict, but he hasn't shown that he can.

200 ep: Yeah.. and that's the frustration that at least I have. I dont know if they are even thinking about a separation but if they are, my guess is they did want to do it after kidnapping but were scared to do so.

Ammu... delusion... ... achcha hai... thappad jor ka milna chahiye. [waiting.] Bearing her delusion only for that reality slap.

Chodo V will again speak truth and give reality check to her.And many will be like he said truth.

Many said same around mela what he said was true lol.

Originally posted by: Annu.

Chodo V will again speak truth and give reality check to her.And many will be like he said truth.

Many said same around mela what he said was true lol.

He wont speak truth but he will be true to himself and her a give reality check - jo humari Ammu maharani bhool gayi hai "Ab bhi waqt hai... Jaag jaa beta".

Aisa bhi hua tha kya mela ke time? (yaad nahi.)

Originally posted by: sugz

There are some who agree with you. This tweet on X made me think of your post

https://x.com/OptimisticSoulD/status/1855998906607288420

B for bekar

B for bagwass...

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Love: even I'll say they are in love.

Trust: She trusts him... I will say he doesn't. Many of his dialogues (even todays dialogues) suggest he likes her only because she is good to him... ek conflict aa jaye and baat badlegi - from his side. She will handle the conflict, but he hasn't shown that he can.

200 ep: Yeah.. and that's the frustration that at least I have. I dont know if they are even thinking about a separation but if they are, my guess is they did want to do it after kidnapping but were scared to do so.

Ammu... delusion... ... achcha hai... thappad jor ka milna chahiye. [waiting.] Bearing her delusion only for that reality slap.

I agree, V ka issue bada hai. Idk how Ammu trusts the guy but he won't hesitate to lash out at her whenever things get "worse" from his side. Uska character hi aisa hai.

And for Delulu Ammu, I'm also praying for her to get a slap (zor se). I enjoy it when Sriti is in sad mode (acting-wise).

Originally posted by: sugz

@flutterby . This is not a personal lesson to you or trying to have attitude with you. Its more a message to all on raising awareness for suicide. Suicide occurs everywhere not just in India. It knows no religion, country, rich & poor, happy or sad people. Many communities keep it quiet as then dont want people to think its a way out of life. This is the biggest problem. Instead of dealing with cause of suicide we try to keep it quiet.

In terms of suicide in Hindu scriptures. I think most religions dont find it acceptable. However this can be to trap so people ignore serious issues. There are considerations such as mental illness and another factor I want to post in detail. Ok fine suicide is not right in religion but whats happened is we... me 1st have become numb & ignore people suffering. That person who commits suicide can know its wrong but just wants to get out of life & cant handle it any longer. It can be due to financial trouble, abuse incl online bulling or less serious mental illness that becomes out of control. Example self esteem in my personal circumstance. That sometimes becomes difficult to accept or control

In ending I want to say even though we tell people suicide wrong in religion. We need to help people in their struggles. Speaking to people online has become a great opportunity to be anonymous & horrible to people. 1 last request to everyone here is always remember there are human beings behind a screen or at work or at store you buy groceries. Try your best to be kind... be kind & try your best to see peoples mental state. Thank you.

Yes, I know suicide occurs everywhere, but committing it because of politicians is what I was appalled at. Not the phenomenon itself. I read an article regarding that particular case. The man offed his family as well as his exs' because he felt Trump would "burn him at the stake" which is extremely tragic.

Agreed. Agreed.

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Bold: Agree. Can only add a few more points. It doesn't make sense that Ammu can overlook the wrong that has been done to her by him - sounds bad... but will add it... what if he had molested her as a revenge? Would she still 'forget' it? What happened was almost that... Or at least I dont see much difference - probably just a step less. Second: How does Ammu see a future with him even if she forgives him, with Babs ready to do anything? Is she safe... will she ever be safe?

1st para - there's a lot in it & post maybe long but ties together conversations we had past 3 months. I would say if they want to be together & he can promise her something like Mela wont happen again. I Disagree slightly. I think Amu can overlook it to be with him but he has to prove himself over the next say 1 to 3 years for her to forgive & forget.

Will also add him molesting her closer than you think. Dont forget he took her hostage that Mela night from Jahan apartment & locked Amu in bathroom. Virat admitted next morning to molesting her but didnt... where was those cameras in the building? Those cameras that proved Bhavani innocent of not putting Babita in lift should be used to prove virat lied about marriage consumate but actually molestation & abduction.

Important point on current place in show. Amu never answered Aai & evaded question with Harsh in stairs. Amu said she will leave after exposure but never happened. We all know babita made big mistake to bring Ex back. Not bacause of property loss & All Ex plans failed. Babita & Ex plans brought V A closer. Maybe we see the result today in V A of Ex failed plans making love grow back stronger than before Mela. We spoke about virat using her but also needed Amu when Ex returned. I think whats confirmed he used Amu but wants real marriage from it. So use & Keep.

Reason for long explanation is Amu said she will leave after exposure knowing there is no future with Babita in Virat life & no safety based on all her plans with Ex which got worse each week. Back to my OG post. Yes your point needed to be added characters not making sense how Amu needs to realise and approach the Babita problem. Its not only virat responsibility but Amus too. Why did Amu stay after exposure?

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Another take: There is this Kerala curry called 'aviyal'. The story I've heard is a king wanted something new and the head chef cooked up the curry with leftovers of parts vegetables, coconuts etc. he hadn't used in other curries. And we have 'aviyal'. [have heard Tamilians use the word 'aviyal' to mean the same as Hindi speakers would say 'khichdi'.] So thats where we are...with a new ingredient going to be added soon with the new entry. Probably the only satisfaction we will get is when it ends and we see that the show had a couple of ingredients we actually liked and that we finally finished consuming it.

Why are we here? Cause MD thought she has the expertise of the head chef.

appreciate the background on aviyal. l understand your comparison but come to different conclusion. @Adiandsid with much respect. The history of aviyal cant be lowered to compare to KMTMG. There is a porpose to all roles in the creation of aviyal which is the final product like the king, chef & all ingredients come together petfectly. The product of an entire series & journey of the series cant be defined the ending episodes only... in my view.

In KMTMG instance if we compare to aviyal history. KMTMG had all the best ingredients with its actors & the story similar to the cocunut milk, cashews, cream etc. KMTMG head chef Mukta has given instruction to the kitchen. The cooks have taken the best ingredients & messed it up. The actual product being the show each day. If the show manages to end well... what they would have done is taken out the karela soaked in coconut & cream sweetening it but have decided to use it in Chutney or a samoosa. It doesn't change the failure of 1st dish creation.

In summary KMTMG creators have already ruined the final product! Can it be rescued for a good end? Based on arrogant incompetence of creators I cant hold on to hope any longer. Creators will mess ending up too.

Originally posted by: sugz

appreciate the background on aviyal. l understand your comparison but come to different conclusion. @Adiandsid with much respect. The history of aviyal cant be lowered to compare to KMTMG. There is a porpose to all roles in the creation of aviyal which is the final product like the king, chef & all ingredients come together petfectly. The product of an entire series & journey of the series cant be defined the ending episodes only... in my view.

In KMTMG instance if we compare to aviyal history. KMTMG had all the best ingredients with its actors & the story similar to the cocunut milk, cashews, cream etc. KMTMG head chef Mukta has given instruction to the kitchen. The cooks have taken the best ingredients & messed it up. The actual product being the show each day. If the show manages to end well... what they would have done is taken out the karela soaked in coconut & cream sweetening it but have decided to use it in Chutney or a samoosa. It doesn't change the failure of 1st dish creation.

In summary KMTMG creators have already ruined the final product! Can it be rescued for a good end? Based on arrogant incompetence of creators I cant hold on to hope any longer. Creators will mess ending up too.

Yeah.. can agree its insulting to aviyal (esp when I happen to like it).

The ending part though I meant it around the satisfaction of 'oh, finally its done' not around 'it will end well'.

Originally posted by: sugz

1st para - there's a lot in it & post maybe long but ties together conversations we had past 3 months. I would say if they want to be together & he can promise her something like Mela wont happen again. I Disagree slightly. I think Amu can overlook it to be with him but he has to prove himself over the next say 1 to 3 years for her to forgive & forget.

Will also add him molesting her closer than you think. Dont forget he took her hostage that Mela night from Jahan apartment & locked Amu in bathroom. Virat admitted next morning to molesting her but didnt... where was those cameras in the building? Those cameras that proved Bhavani innocent of not putting Babita in lift should be used to prove virat lied about marriage consumate but actually molestation & abduction.

Important point on current place in show. Amu never answered Aai & evaded question with Harsh in stairs. Amu said she will leave after exposure but never happened. We all know babita made big mistake to bring Ex back. Not bacause of property loss & All Ex plans failed. Babita & Ex plans brought V A closer. Maybe we see the result today in V A of Ex failed plans making love grow back stronger than before Mela. We spoke about virat using her but also needed Amu when Ex returned. I think whats confirmed he used Amu but wants real marriage from it. So use & Keep.

Reason for long explanation is Amu said she will leave after exposure knowing there is no future with Babita in Virat life & no safety based on all her plans with Ex which got worse each week. Back to my OG post. Yes your point needed to be added characters not making sense how Amu needs to realise and approach the Babita problem. Its not only virat responsibility but Amus too. Why did Amu stay after exposure?

Why did Ammu stay after exposure?

Beats me. I have no idea. Other than the writers wanted her to.

I can get she came back even after the food poisoning incident. Though it was a stretch, I will give her that she hoped she can expose babs in such a way that Virat's relationship with Babs doesn't go sour (well... turns out it didn't matter at all, isn't it?).

I didnt get her 'sadness' around 'Oh... Virat Sir gave me annulment papers' [I have very bad views about him giving those papers... and she just ignores it.] and it went bizarre from when he went to Alibaug. Just the previous night he had given her the papers and argued about it later too... next morning she is joking with Bebe of all people about saasra and maika. Had this change happened after she read his letter of apology, I would've still understood her pov... but all this happened before that.

Ammu does have some delusions around the males around her.

• Father was her role model and it was pretty stupid of her to not see things amiss with him.
• She considers Dildaar a father figure now. For me that is not worth it too. The reasons he always comes up with is some version of 'she is useful'. His reactions (lack of it) when she was in jail and after forced wedding are all selfish. Ammu with her foolishness happens to fit well.
• Virat... dont have to talk about this.

One thing I give her (or Virat) is that he has perhaps been the only one who has 'helped' her - else I guess she is the only one who does things around in her family... So she values that help... but from his side, to be honest, many a times it borders in on 'patao'ing - I doubt his genuineness. But goes well with the theme about Ammu around the males around her.