Originally posted by: sanfan
Priya we will never agree on how we read this story 😂 but that’s ok…I know this is just a counter arg
Is decency weakness? Is indecisiveness weakness? Not in my books… Ani took a while to accept his love for Jhanak but how to read indecision as weakness? If I was in a relationship with a person and attracted to someone else… I surely hope I take my time 😂😂😂😂 about my love life…
as long as you are not negatively impacting another. here Ani took his time and in the bargain caused grest disruption to Arshi and J's lives by being dishonest and twisting the truth. If he had been honest - decency and indecisiveness is ok - dishonesty to everyone in his family is more than weakness...its a matter of integrity and trust
There is no one way a love story justifies itself. For instance if J decides to take a leap of faith and realise that Ani hadn’t been in a situation of consensual s*x and understands the machinations of Shristi and Arshi.. she has been exposed to more in life… to me that is educative. Yes, she had inhibitions to break the bond between Ani and Arshi ( to me that’s an entrenched patriarchal expectation of sacrifice from women as upholders of tradition) but somewhere the writer has to show the character has learnt by experience - that dialogue of “ Aashirwad wapas lena” has to come true somewhere.. Ofc if Leena wants to keep extending she will not proceed along this path. But my point is this situation however vile it be, can only be fought by Jhanak by showing trust and in liberating herself from the shackles of vows etc.
true - I dont disagree. I am saying, she does not have enough from Ani to justify a leap of faith based on my watching Ani's character shaping. Maybe you see writer giving Ani growth in J's eyes.
priya, when we analyse a character… aren’t we supposed to pay attention to the writer’s thought process? Why are we making concessions for the writer’s thought process? I have a simple question to ask you. What caused the writer to gloss over the married status of Ani Arshi? What caused the writer to make one of her character who is “supposedly wife” to resort to deception for intimacy? If she had the courage of conviction and believed her character had a voice, why choose an underhand mode to put forth a perspective. So, as far as I read the writer’s way… she does not have any other way to establish the conflict in the absence of the relationship.. Arshi can only stand between Ani and Jhanak by forcing her way cos she has been shown to have the knowledge that Ani does not love her anymore. The charade or facade or adjustment is now over from both sides. The gloves are now off..If she was installed as the actual wife, just her legal status would have been sufficient to cause the conflict. But Leena has no guts to treat this story as one of incompatibility and create a story based on that conflict.
Leena is taking the cowards way by having the not really married excuse as a unspoken insecurity for Arshi and a escape hatch for Ani in terms of societal morality - but Ani has never explicitly stating she is not his wife. He may ask her to leave or insult her, but he still acknowledges a firm relationship - that needs legal means to undo. He gives Arshi complete haq over him. He walked away today post the Nutan is BB daughter revelation, when Arshi led him away like she owned him. Even when she is seducing him using J's name, he says he will never forget she is his wife with another. He accepts her as his wife; just not as his love. In this case Arshi still has wife haq. She is not deceiving here, she did not say anything infactual, she is using him at his vulnerable moment. She is not forcing him physically, but rather making the case she can be Jhanak for him. Isnt this very much like what Ani did to Jhanak. Holding her telling her he loved her, pushing J into something she was not ready to, because she loved him and thought he loved her. Here you can argue Arshi could feel as wife once they are physical she can wipe Ani's obsession with J. See Arshi is not pretending to be Jhanak, she is saying she is J's cousin, shares her blood, nothing wrong here. She is taking advantage of Ani when he is vulnerable, which is wrong but not deception. If Arshi is wrong here, so is J who was pressurized into sleeping with Ani.
Also, How can we analyse it from how we want the character to behave. Correlation isn’t causation. To say, because you are drunk… you are open to violation is crazy… Sorry if you read the implications of this you will see it differently I hope. Even in law, the moment one is drunk or drugged, we are incapacitated from decision making. That holds for anyone.
Same as he was druged in Kashmir - is it not? So J and Arshi both users - agreed? J kept saying Ani will not remember anything in the morning.
Ani asking Arshi to stay back was an expedient aspect of the story. Even if he did not ask her to stay… she would anyway have done so. Arshi hasn’t ever needed any justification for staying back. She did not leave him when Ani went to Mumbai, so frankly this I read as Leena’s easy fix of reading lay audiences as careless about men’s flaws… What I am not entirely clear about is Lena’s feelings about Arshi? If she hasn’t opted for this deception, I might have said she feels the need for greyness but with this I am not sure…
Its the expedicency that was rendered, that shows how the writers handed him partial accountability, asking her to stay right before the kaand. They do not want to show this as Arshi deception alone. They wanted to ahow Ani's culpability - else they could have come up with many other scenarios where Arshi comes in and actively deceives Ani. In my opinion writers are clearly making the case that Ani's actions are prompting Arshi's desperate moves and giving her basis for the deception. In Imlie the ML was intentionally drugged and made to believe the PL was FL by dressing like her. There the ML is justifiably excused. If they wanted to show Ani as pure victim, writers could have removed all finger pointing situations from Ani. Leena has always intended for Ani to be a weak indecisive hence causing trouble ML. This is her characterization clearly. Esle Ani would not be making so many mistakes. Leena would have written up good defenses for his actions. She is capable of and clearly did not.
Are you not analysing this as how you want Ani to behave? Fact is per writers he is making mistakes - expediency notwithstanding
Taking liberties in arguing with you knowing you take it as intended - just as a counter argument. Don't mean to fully negate your argument. I can see where you are coming from. Just trying to show you how I am reading the same story through diff lenses.
Like the Us national elections. :)
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