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Posted: 4 months ago

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

I never understood why someone like Rajiv Gandhi was even preferred. Congress really treated India like a dynastic monarchy.

Ghandhi’s need power to safeguard their wealth . If newbie like KCR ,YSR, Reddy bros , Stalin, Pawar and Yadav could amass so much wealth imagine how much they must have given their connections . Rest of congress needs someone powerful yet not so powerful at Top position so they all can continue their own work else tell me why would time and again anyone else other than Ghandhi family member becomes PM they had to bow down . Late PV Narsimha Rao was visionary and reformist PM India needed and we lost him thanks to internal politics. India doesn’t need idealistic or patriotic or anyone we need a reformist PM.
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Posted: 4 months ago

Originally posted by: Winterberry

Ghandhi’s need power to safeguard their wealth . If newbie like KCR ,YSR, Reddy bros , Stalin, Pawar and Yadav could amass so much wealth imagine how much they must have given their connections . Rest of congress needs someone powerful yet not so powerful at Top position so they all can continue their own work else tell me why would time and again anyone else other than Ghandhi family member becomes PM they had to bow down . Late PV Narsimha Rao was visionary and reformist PM India needed and we lost him thanks to internal politics. India doesn’t need idealistic or patriotic or anyone we need a reformist PM.


U mean we need a dictator? Coz har din naye protest chalte rahe to reforms to hone se rahe.


Gandhi parivar ka naara hai, gareebi ko hatana hai..apni khud ki

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Posted: 4 months ago

True, totally agree my views resonate fully with your's. Sadly the people involved in the OP are leaseholder farmers, who were having a field day thanks to under development and when government had shown interest in what they own, it cuts off their Roz ki roti, such matters need to be dealt with in a much sensitive way, government can't suddenly go ruthless.

For instance the piece of land my parents house was built was an encroachment of temple lands being taken on agricultural lease and is being sold to individuals like my parents. The dispute has been ongoing in the court and still the properties around have been changing hands(we're not alone, there's about several such colonies around us, spanning across 100s of acres) but if government suddenly bulldoze the entire lot one fine day, they'll invite our wrath even for the development of city. Because many of the neighbouring colonies are daily labourers who made an abode with a lot of difficulty and it gets seven more difficult when there's agricultural land involved. It's sadly an inevitably painful process for both parties involved because people are used to living with inactive stagnant governments where having new road or having a toilet is a 5 year long term plan of government. In many other countries these were all planned into development of a community and we can't imagine encroaching upon an extra piece of land. Where I live right now we need planning permission from the council for any external modification relating to appearance of my house, also even an extra power point installation within requires an approval as well, because the council should have a record of all the electric connection details for health and safety.

To conclude development is good but developmental projects need sensitive approach when poor people and their living is involved. After all what's Ayodhya without Ayodhyawasis. Ram bhi Raja Bana only due to his people.


Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon

I wanted to write this yesterday but refrained.
I have first hand experience of seeing how land acquisition is so time taking..and it just forces people to put up with filth and chaos till things get done. There is a road widening project going on near my home. In demand since years since its a major connecting road. But its so narrow that even two cars cannot cross eachother easily. Widening was in demand since ages. But government faces so many problems in acquiring land. Had to pay huge compensation for even illegal constructions. This when there were many empty plots and majority of houses were abandoned. Finally after paying huge sums some owners relented. But can u believe it..have seen workers doing demolition with a hammer at some places. No bulldozers. Imagine the time it will take. And its hardly a 1 km stretch. Even after 6 months of work getting started its still chaotic.

Now imagine a temple attracting lakhs of devotees daily. Without proper space n infra how inconvenient it would be for both devotees and local people. Devotees would pray and leave but locals have to live with that chaos. Agreed their loss is real and their anger is justified. But voting on basis of that is shortsightedness. We know why the process had to be quick and we hope they receive good compensation.

And we just need to look at the plight of Bengaluru to understand how unplanned growth can create problems. The city just mushroomed and now cant handle the weight of its own growth

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Posted: 4 months ago

True an assertive leader who is not from the psuedo Gandhi sorry first family of India or their cronies becomes a dictator. What dictatorship has Modi done, did he do liquor scam and jailed Kejriwal, did he colluded with Kejriwal and framed Kavitha(KCR daughter)

Modi couldn't control the motormouths who gives him Maa ki gaali all over, yet says nothing and goes on with his business.

He's become a dictator only because he works without a day off smart enough to understand ground issues and being able connect with the grassroots. Have the strength to dream of building roads and connecting the bordering villages and strong enough calls them first villages of Bharath, have no shame flaunting his cultural identity and Modi never does appeasement politics so he's a dictator.


Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon


U mean we need a dictator? Coz har din naye protest chalte rahe to reforms to hone se rahe.


Gandhi parivar ka naara hai, gareebi ko hatana hai..apni khud ki

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Posted: 4 months ago

Originally posted by: trouble_006

Opposition and Nitish wants the result of caste sensus to be public so that then they can demand increase in reservation for people with more share in population.


So let's say if the census shows that out of 100, 60 people are of Caste A, 25 Caste B and 15 of General, then their demand will be to give 85% reservation to Caste A + B, and the rest 15% seats would be open for all (A+B+ General)


The whole Jitni Abadi Utna Haq slogan was about this


And it would probably spill over to private sector as well. Opposition in Bihar has already demanded it a couple of times.

Indeed. In a recent interview with Rahul Kanwal, that despicable and uncouth junior chaara chor was vouching for private sector reservations. When Kanwal asked what about merit, that POS completely disregarded it. Ofcourse, he won't regard merit because he himself doesn't have any.
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Posted: 4 months ago

Private sector reservations sound scary. However, if the governments start forcing businesses to hire their vote banks, they certainly won't take it well and it's bound to affect the funding. :)

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Posted: 4 months ago

Originally posted by: trouble_006

Bhai dekho caste discrimination toh abhi bhi hota hai, especially in the less developed or rural areas in the country. There are a lot of layers and complexities to it.


But this kind of reservation is not going to solve that issue. Warna ab tak solve ho chuka hota. Public sector is already gone, no one will ever reduce reservations from there as it will lead to political suicide as well as civil war in the country.


Bas private sector touch na ho. Capitalist profit making companies wouldn't want a workforce that's not built on merit or where hiring is dependent on unstable political factors.

Fir kar lena development sab.

Private sector reservations will only lead to more discrimination and hatred.
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Posted: 4 months ago

Hi soo good to see you toosmiley31 hope you're well and happy.

You're bang on, the Sr pawar is considered a chanukya for his abilities and calculations. it's Fadnavis miscalculation last time as well as this time, BJP despite of being wronged fell flat on their face. Hence he's now tendering his resignation. Problem in Maharashtra is there's rural farmer distress as well, which needs to be addressed. Because growing land prices are forcing farmers either to become labourers as farming isn't viable as before. Also Modi talking about farm laws implementation in 3.0 sent shockwaves to the peasants in Maharashtra, Haryana and parts of UP. The masses of India are still entwined in the shackles of slavery and ghulaami to their Jaat or chaudaries so much that sometimes they sacrifice their lives for their masters, it's a mental bondage. I've seen this personally and IMO the farm labourers en Massè voted out BJP and Modi despite of having received several beneficial schemes.

Originally posted by: Winterberry

Rajiiii , so good to see you .

In UP people might have been unhappy with Ram Mandir - not inviting locals or not getting compenseation or other stuff but it was caste system which was reason for loss definitely not development . The law n order , electricity , infra , education has seen tremendous change there, people got the benefits now they went back to caste . You can take Hindu out of Indian but not caste and regional feelings, it’s deeply rooted . Maharashtra they should have never poked nose in SS internal fight and should have concentrated on going solo . Looking back it all looks like it was Pawar who orchestrated and BJP fell for it , like what did they gain in all this ? They are not ruling in assembly despite having majority and for LS people Pawar took the cake , baker and bakery too .

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Posted: 4 months ago

Yeah unke liye merit jaaye bhaad mein companies Gaye thel lene. Commission only matters to them. Ironically Tejaswi didn't perform well still he's shown as an example of shining yuva leaderin media. Drawing blank in the loksabha kabse achievement ban Gaya I wondered🤔🧐

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Indeed. In a recent interview with Rahul Kanwal, that despicable and uncouth junior chaara chor was vouching for private sector reservations. When Kanwal asked what about merit, that POS completely disregarded it. Ofcourse, he won't regard merit because he himself doesn't have any.

Edited by Rsrockz - 4 months ago
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Posted: 4 months ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I am not sure about this...


The question was never about Indians as a whole but only about Hindus...


Just because they are Indians doesn't change the fact that they are Hindus..


The reply itself says that Preamble of India and Constitution unites Indians.


How is both related??


The Constitution unites Indians and he wanted a uniting factor among Hindu. The responder got confused in two entirely different words and called the OP as padhai nhi ki??


Matlab perfect example of ulta chor Kotwal ko daante

Another conclusion is that it's easier to lecture Hindus.
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