Upcoming Elections - Vote with a conscience - Page 35

Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon

If he does RG can take his revenge for coining the name Pappu.

Laut ke buddhu ghar ko aaya😂

Though heights would be Mahua Moitra wanting to join 😄

Yeah, if Ajit Pawar and Ashok Chavan can join, why not Mahua Moitra and Partha Chatterjee? I'm not sure whether Suvendu Adhikari can veto their entry

Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon

It's a beautiful place..visited Jabalpur, Bhedaghat, Marble rocks n Pachmarhi years ago.. memorable trip.

Didn't see the airport then..but Jabalpur railway station was the best and cleanest I had seen in India

The airport was really bad. The one we travelled in and out of. So this video I saw is many times better. And yes. Those places I visited too. Loved MP (all the parts I visited) and even spend one night at a govt resort as it was transitory and it was excellent experience.

I think they are definitely one of the excellent examples of how to manage tourism esp with this new airport.

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

Tbh mera thought process completely different hai Vrish se. And i know why such thought and posts. But i don't want to get into a debate on that. Reason you can best understand. Some people just don't get the need for political power and actions over speech . So much disillusionment on trivial issue. People forget the 'NarovaKunjarova' of Mahabharat.

So many people were shouting and crying about Nupur Sharma and pressure from Qatar. There was hardly anything official statement from govt.

But when action was really needed from BJP in navy case they did and got them back safely.

What would you prefer

sanctimonious speech that is perfect but zero actions

Or

Zero or irrelevant statements but proper action?

My choice will always be actions over speech.

bhai. I also believe in actions speaking louder than words. But I also believe that complacency and power can be real obstacles over time too. So my belief in having greater checks and balances, alternatives. Currently one can easily argue that for the most part Modiji and his team I are doing a fantastic job.. so my view is merely for long term success to sustain this :).

Aur bhai. So far the discussions on this have been really good for the most part. Occasionally some propoganda might be posted but that’s ok too. Gives people even a better chance to seperate facts from fiction / propoganda. Like the fake farmers aandolan 🤣🤣🤣

Originally posted by: Vr15h

The word "secularism" needs to go. Dictionary meaning is

[quote]

adjective

1. of or relating to worldly things or to things that are not regarded as religious, spiritual, or sacred; temporal:secular interests.

   
   

2. not pertaining to or connected with religion (opposed to sacred):secular music.

3. (of education, a school, etc.) concerned with nonreligious subjects.

   
   

4. (of members of the clergy) not belonging to a religious order; not bound by monastic vows (opposed to regular).

   [/quote]

Remember that the words "socialist" and "secular" were illegally added to the preamble of the constitution by Indira Gandhi in 1976, w/o any vote by parliament, which would have been necessary to do it. There were a lot of other illegitimate changes that she made. When Morarji Desai's coalition came to power, they rescinded all those changes, except for "socialist" and "secular" in the preamble, and they didn't restore the "Right to Property", which had hitherto been a fundamental right. No constitution should declare any country socialist: that should be up to voters at all times

There is also a concept in life called "branding", where after a term is used in a certain manner long enough, that's the accepted meaning, despite what the dictionary says. Which is why the term "liberal" is now synonymous w/ center-left, and "secular" synonymous w/ muslim appeasement. This applies to parties as well, which is why the Hindu Mahasabha never made a comeback, even after secularism has been largely discredited in India

I was never a fan of Rajiv Gandhi, but a couple of things he did right towards the end of his term:

• Open the gates of the shilanyas in Ayodhya
• Promise a Ram Rajya in his election manifesto in 1989. To date, he's the only Indian prime minister ever to have done it: even Vajpayee and Modi didn't

Which is why it's high time that "socialist" and "secular" are expunged from the constitution, and Ram Rajya added in its place. Oh, and restore the "Right to Property" as a fundamental right. It doesn't mean that everyone gets a plot of land: what it means is that if one has bought or inherited a piece of land, it cannot be confiscated by any government

I know what you mean but I don’t think any religious context should be used when it comes to constitution. If one likes certain principles. Apply them as law.


Confiscated by govt is an interesting concept. In USA to there is a process for procurement for things like right of way etc for infrastructure projects and procurement prices process etc. Obviously not arbitrary and too much of a long debate to write more on this.

Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon

If he does RG can take his revenge for coining the name Pappu.

Laut ke buddhu ghar ko aaya😂

Though heights would be Mahua Moitra wanting to join 😄

She deserves to be behind the bars and no where else along with hefty fine.

Originally posted by: Vr15h

The late Bal Thackeray was someone like that. He never sat on the CM's chair or even the BMCC Mayor's chair even one day! But when he was around, he called the shots in Mumbai! Bollywood was scared of making anti-Hindu movies for a while. Love jihad was unheard of. The Dawood gangs were on the back foot, if not the retreat

Unfortunately, the Shiv Sena, the way it existed in his day, is dead & forgotten. As Santosh Dubey, the leader of the group that demolished the Babri noted, people like Thackeray come once in a lifetime

Thackeray may have done some good. Without a doubt. But ground reality of goondaa nonsense is also true etc.

even there whole - shop hoardings for eg have to have it written in Marathi also were stupid rules under SS governance and they controlled BMC for decades in an exceptionally corrupt way. Look at the infra build now in Mumbai. I very much doubt any Bombayite would use SS as example of any kind of alternative today. I wouldn’t.

Originally posted by: KJasoosChulbulP

Thackeray may have done some good. Without a doubt. But ground reality of goondaa nonsense is also true etc.

even there whole - shop hoardings for eg have to have it written in Marathi also were stupid rules under SS governance and they controlled BMC for decades in an exceptionally corrupt way. Look at the infra build now in Mumbai. I very much doubt any Bombayite would use SS as example of any kind of alternative today. I wouldn’t.

I hear you, but I was referring to DhoniAddict's question of why would we need another political party, as opposed to just forcing the issues on the ground. In that aspect, Thackeray was a doer

I was never a fan of the Amchi-Mumbai-Marathi-Mumbai movement, but I see where he was coming from. Other states in India at the time - Bihar, UP, TN, etc were badly mismanaged, w/ there being no jobs, and as a result, people fled those states for Mumbai, creating a burden on local residents. It's an intra-national version of what we see in the West, w/ immigration driving down the cost of labor and putting a strain on local resources, like housing. There were also some things that he said that I completely oppose, such as his endorsement of Hitler. But I do admire how he kept Mumbai in check when it came to Bollywood and Mumbai's underworld

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

That's exactly what opposition wants. Create resentment and anger in BJP support base. They were successful in doing this in Karnataka and trying it in national level. Karnataka is facing the brunt of ' ನಾವು ಮೋದಿಗೆ ಪಾಠ ಕಲಿಸಿದ್ದೇವೆ

Nāvu mōdige pāṭha kalisiddēve (we taught a lesson to modi)'.

All this based on fake corruption and commission charges.

Same handle also posted this. https://twitter.com/NewsArenaIndia/status/1758832854153539938?t=OzRs7V209BetpBkulR0D1g&s=19

I know....

I'm not angry with BJP, just a little unsatisfied. But when I look at the opposing parties I immediately feel grateful to have BJP

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

Another AAP? Why always a news party? Why not get the hands dirty and clean the mess in BJP? No one will be able to get the level of machinery and public connect and ground work of BJP.

Any new party won't work because Cong will never allow someone else to rise in competition to pappu and BJP has a organizational structure.

And one thing is for sure, BJP will never sit idle. They will always work towards winning more and more political power. Political power gets work done. Sanctimonious speeches that's are ideologically correct don't. All those who are thinkers speakers intellectuals book writers etc won't even win a ward mohalla election forget anything else. They should leave the politics to politicians and confine themselves to intellectual behaviour.

Yes.... Politics is a dirty game. Sometimes Ideals do need to be compromised for the greater good....

I agree. Period reforms and restructuring (like the updates you get in mobiles and computers) would be a better option than introducing a totally new party (or a new operating system) from the scratch.

Originally posted by: Palak2812

Haan

He joined Congress in 2017.

Uske baad Pakistan wala drama kiya phir Kapil ke show se kick hua, phir jail hue.

I don't want him back.

I'm p*issed off after his Pakistan drama too.... Calling imran his bada bhai and saying other things....