Originally posted by: unicornhugs
I don't think it's about arts and sports taking precedence over the nation but more about making a distinction between terrorists and the citizens of Pakistan.
The general consensus is that Salman and others are trying to say that the Arts are more important than the army and I think that's why they are being labelled traitors. The actors and singers from Pakistan are just citizens after all. I heard Salman's statement and to me it just seemed like he was trying to make a distinction between the people of a nation and terrorists. When Nana Patekar said that the soldiers are more important than Bollywood, I don't think that's something Salman would disagree with. He wasn't trying to say they were.I understand what Nana Patekar is trying to say but I also understand Salman's view. Nana Patekar feels that they need to stand with the soldiers and show the solidarity. Salman believes making a distinction between the common man of a nation and terrorists is important to lead to peace. They are both thinking in the interest of the nation but have opposite views on how that can be achieved.People can disagree with Salman and maybe even label him naive but calling him anti-national for sharing his views when asked in a democratic country is just mind-boggling to me.
Nana Patekar's war record
Nana Patekar was never enrolled in the armed forces. During the preparation for Prahaar, the script required him to familiarise himself with the details of an army training course. The simplest way was to practise at an actual army camp, which he did.
His dedication to this research was so intense that he was conferred an honorary title. This is something that's routinely done to celebrities, politicians, dignitaries and filmstars. It doesn't mean you're fit to go into combat, it's just a mark of respect, like an honorary degree from a university.
It's true that when the Kargil conflict began in May this year, Patekar did call his army contacts and offer his services in any capacity. But the army didn't immediately send him off to the frontline to battle Pakistani intruders, as some people mistakenly think.
Instead, he received a special permit to visit the army camps there, to meet the units on active duty and to bunk with them. This was a special privilege and, obviously, the army granted it because it wouldn't hurt the morale of the jawans to have a major star staying with them.
Although, as one bright major put it, "We would have been maha khush if Sonali Bendre stayed with us!"
But at least Patekar's intentions were genuine and heartfelt. The fact that he arrived there without a photographer in tow and was willing to rough it out with the jawans earned him a great deal of respect.
And respect is something the army and civilians in J&K don't usually feel for the film industry.
http://www.rediff.com/entertai/1999/nov/16karg.htm
hmm ππΌππΌOriginally posted by: unicornhugs
Nana Patekar feels that they need to stand with the soldiers and show the solidarity. Salman believes making a distinction between the common man of a nation and terrorists is important to lead to peace. They are both thinking in the interest of the nation but have opposite views on how that can be achieved.
People can disagree with Salman and maybe even label him naive but calling him anti-national for sharing his views when asked in a democratic country is just mind-boggling to me.
Originally posted by: Sugar9.00
hmm ππΌππΌ
yahaa to kuchh alag sochna bhi crime ho gya hai ..reminds me of "thoughtcrime" from 1984(interesting book) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime
Here is some more link :
http://metromatinee.com/news/nana-patekar-donates-95-percent-his-income-charity
"Nana says, ""I'll have to do it to keep the human inside me alive. I'm not doing it for them, but for all of us. So let's do it all together".Nana has also adopted few Villages and trying to make them into model villages.His foundation has collected Rs. 22 crores from the people for farmer welfare."
haa tum hi ho π€¬π‘ .. kuch kuchh sab ke liye tha.. I just expected that people would understand or at least consider other side as wellOriginally posted by: fivestars
i read what u wrote in ompuri thread which got locked ! hope u r not talking abt meππbut yeah we r seeing the diff side of members we know before !!
Originally posted by: Sugar9.00
haa tum hi ho π€¬π‘ .. kuch kuchh sab ke liye tha.. I just expected that people would understand or at least consider other side as well
members are similar but itne ek tarfa honge iska nayi pata tha.. I really felt like a khatmal when I read other thread on om puri.. couldn't even post there but then saw hadia's comment on second thread to raha nayi gya
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