Originally posted by: starstruckk
@ nevah_mind:
I think you're overthinking this way too much. As I said before, not everyone is one the same page when it comes to Pakistan and India. There's so much more to this topic for so many reasons when it comes to these two countries. You have people from both sides of the border who will criticize each other, but then you also have people who will show their appreciation. If you feel offended by certain things you see on Pakistani television..well, then you also have Fawad who can't stop praising the warmth and love he has received in India as you state yourself. Ali Zafar has the same things to say as well. Likewise, for every KRK kind of comment towards Pakistan..then there are the likes of Shabana Azmi and Naseerudin Shah who go out of their way to praise Pakistani talent and cinema even when Pakistani celebs aren't as well known in Indian as Indian celebs are within Pakistan. It works both ways...and there are different kinds of fans everywhere. Pakistani fans don't even spare their own celebrities when they work in Pakistan for the most silliest of reasons, let alone when they go work elsewhere. I think it's out of our control to ask fans to not voice their opinions no matter how they may come across. Other than that, I think Indians and Pakistanis are both very high on patriotism and emotions especially when it comes to talking about each other no matter how senseless it may seem logically speaking. That's just how it is.
I'm "overthinking" as much as anyone else is.
I have said it before, I will say it again. Its not about what fans are saying. Fans are common people who have access to the internet and shoot their mouths off, saying the nastiest things.
Its terrible to read when Indians call Pakistan and Pakistanis names. Its hurtful, offensive and just show the lack of respect or tolerance in the individual. Same goes when the common man in any other country says things about us.
KRK is an idiot, and I have to come across one person who (other than him) thinks he is the wittiest person, whose opinion is final and binding on everyone.
He promised to leave the country if Modi became PM, and apparently he did. His tweets are the butt of all jokes, and he is by no means a celeb or some one who is taken seriously by the people who have any stature in BW.
The people who agree with him are people who think like him, and there is really no dearth of these haters.
He got the Ghanta awards for a tweet, which he had done on Sunny Leone. I cannot tell you how offensive that was to womankind. It was so low down cheap, I cannot even describe it here. Who in their right minds will pay any heed to anything he says?
If Amitabh or SRK or even newcomers like ARK, Varun D, Alia, said something like that about Fawad, (as quoted in tweets above), yes, there would have been public outrage. But not for or from someone like KRK for whom even the word "loser" is too good.
When Pak stars like Shaan make statements like "cheap sell outs in BW" is where the difference lies. Whether he gets support or not is not the point. Its just the mind set and that is all we're saying.
If any of our popular and loved stars said anything like what Shaan has said at least a couple of times in the recent past, there would have been furor.
When SRK said that Pak players should be included in IPL, the local political party went after him and was going to stop the release of his movie unless he apologized. He refused. For all the idiots among the common man who supported the political party, the louder noise was made by people like me who said that he should never apologize for what he said, because there was nothing wrong in it. The political bigwig had to back off. He had no choice.
If our talk shows or award functions made fun of any Pakistani characteristic or trait, I can assure you, it would be taken very badly.
Abhijeet and AA case was different. They were 2 people from both countries. If the show didn't have AA, and Abhijeet said nasty things about Pak talent, it would have been in extremely poor taste. And be sure, there would have been a hungama here.
Yes, I think a lot. And maybe that's the reason, I will not make any statements based on "feelings" esp in a case of any India - Pak issue on a public forum like this.
My detailed explanation is more of an outcome of making my stance more understandable than just reacting emotionally for patriotism. I'm very objective in my opinion, and the fact that I talk about ourselves with equal criticism should hopefully show that.
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