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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kareena05



They are never happy anyways. If they are so patriotic then why Bollywood is soo popular there ? They can continue watch there Lollywood movies...

Anyways i respect actors like Ali Zafar and Fawad Khan. They are goodlooking and talented people and that's why indians love them. They are not just a pretty face, they have talent.


@ red: Besides Ali Zafar, Fawad, and Imran Abbas..there's no other Pakistani actor you have to choose from that has worked in Bollywood. These are the only prominent ones you have seen till now.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am happy to watch a drama with Pakistani artists made in Pakistan and happy to watch an Indian movie or Tv show with Indian actors. I dont like to see Pakistani's in Indian movies and vice versa. Their was a time a few years ago when every Pakistani show would have an Indian actor, which I felt was dumb as well.

Tons of Indians dont know your actors very well. Unfortunately Pakistani actors are not as popular in India as Indian actors in Pakistan which is why Pakistani channels make derogatory comments about India and Indian actors because they them; maybe if the Indians know the Pakistani actors we can also make negative remarks about them.

I started watching Pakistani shows because of incessant plottings and manipulations in Indian shows plus Indian shows are stretched to the point that they become painful. I was expecting Pakistani dramas to be different and all I got was the same plottings and manipulations but the big advantage here is that the torture ends after 20 episodes as opposed to going on for a few years.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: upra

I am happy to watch a drama with Pakistani artists made in Pakistan and happy to watch an Indian movie or Tv show with Indian actors. I dont like to see Pakistani's in Indian movies and vice versa. Their was a time a few years ago when every Pakistani show would have an Indian actor, which I felt was dumb as well.

Tons of Indians dont know your actors very well. Unfortunately Pakistani actors are not as popular in India as Indian actors in Pakistan which is why Pakistani channels make derogatory comments about India and Indian actors because they them; maybe if the Indians know the Pakistani actors we can also make negative remarks about them.

I started watching Pakistani shows because of incessant plottings and manipulations in Indian shows plus Indian shows are stretched to the point that they become painful. I was expecting Pakistani dramas to be different and all I got was the same plottings and manipulations but the big advantage here is that the torture ends after 20 episodes as opposed to going on for a few years.


@ bold: exactly.

Indians hardly know anything about Pakistan's entertainment. Bollywood artists aren't familiar with Pakistan's top stars..yet Pakistani artists and people in general know everyone from Amitabh Bachan to Varun Dhawan.

This whole argument of how Indian artists are talked about in Pakistan, be it positively, negatively or neutrally is only because WE KNOW Bollywood. We are familiar with Bollywood films, actors, music, onscreen/offscreen drama etc. Indian audiences AND Bollywood artists are not familiar with Pakistani showbiz..the way it works, the stars, the flop actors, the music etc.

This comparison isn't even fair to begin with. Even now..Fawad isn't even known close to 50%, let alone close to 50% popular within India (outside of IF that is). Compare that to possibly Ranveer Singh's popularity in Pakistan..and 98% of people would know who Ranveer is.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@starstruckk : My point is not to bash pakistani shows or movies. I love pakistani dramas and the actors. I'm not here to say who is better or worse. If India has made it big with movies then Pakistan can proudly show there amazing dramas and stories.

What i meant was WHY when a pakistani actors tries to work abroad especially Bollywood they are criticized ? And then suddenly the fans there starts calling names even the popular actors make fun of indian film industry ???
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kareena05

@starstruckk : My point is not to bash pakistani shows or movies. I love pakistani dramas and the actors. I'm not here to say who is better or worse. If India has made it big with movies then Pakistan can proudly show there amazing dramas and stories.


What i meant was WHY when a pakistani actors tries to work abroad especially Bollywood they are criticized ? And then suddenly the fans there starts calling names even the popular actors make fun of indian film industry ???


@ red: I already explained that part in both of my posts above, many times.

There will always be some animosity between Pakistanis and Indians regardless of what some people may think. Everyone isn't on the same page when it comes to these two countries.

You're merely asking me why FANS criticize, say this, do that etc. I can easily ask you why Pakistani players aren't allowed to play within the Indian Premier Leage (IPL) within India? They are the only cricketers that aren't allowed to participate in this league whereas all the cricketers, from all over the world are allowed to. If you go to cricket forums, you'll see how there's so much rivalry amongst fans when it comes to Indians and Pakistanis. Heck, as I said..Pakistani cricketers aren't even allowed to play in something as big as IPL within India because they're banned from doing so. And, many Indian cricket fans agree with the ban. If films/music/tv has no boundaries then how does sports?..and here we're fussing over why any tom, dick and harry over the internet is voicing their opinion on Fawad doing a bollywood movie? seriously? 😆 This is Pakistanis and Indians we're talking about. People always have something to say.

You can't stop people from voicing their thoughts. There's the good and the bad to everything. If tomorrow, Ranbir or Ranveer etc actually do take up something within Pakistan..I can guarantee you some Indians will also retaliate..while some won't care, and others will be cool with it. It's the same on the other side of the border..the only difference is reputable film actors from Bollywood haven't worked in Pakistan.



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Kamaal R Khan KRK @kamaalrkhan

who suggested to Anil Kapoor 2take an old married Pakistani man to make #khoobsurat a hit film. He doesn't have any Namak to become a hero.


Kamaal R Khan KRK @kamaalrkhan

I can't understand tat What's the need to import Fawwad n Humaira when we have Rajpal Yadav n Poonam Pandey available in India?


Some comments on latest article of TOI

why we are encouraging pak actors, singers etc to work on Indian soil.. the director, producer of the film should be jailed..

First and foremost, why the Paki p!gs are encouraged in Bollywood? Dont we have enough talent among Indians?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Fawad-Khan-thinks-Rekha-is-an-embodiment-of-sexiness/articleshow/39950424.cms
All Indians! This filth called T0liet Paper of India is clearly funded by the Pakis/ISI! Look at the bidding they are doing for this Paki piece of turd who looks like a piece of dead wood!
Fawd khan is not fit for 2014. He is fit for the sixtiesYou can read more comments here :)http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/tv/news/Fawad-Khan-romances-contestant-on-TV-show/articleshow/42339611.cms

I am seeing so many posts and articles about Pakistani Fans' reaction and criticism. No one is talking about these Indians? Who are clearly not happy with a Pakistani getting so much attention in India..
And Who can forget the drama Abhijeet created against Atif Aslam??
I don't want to start a debate or argument here.I just wanted to prove my point that these type of people at both sides of border.There are Pakistanis who are not happy with Fawad's decision and there are Indians who are not ready to accept Pakistani actors in bollywood.
Pakistanis make fun of Indian shows/actors and now when Indians are watching Pakistani dramas, I am sure there will be people who are going to make fun of our shows.Some are already doing it.Saw a post on Bollywood forum that in Pakistani shows Hero-Heroine act like bro-sis.😆


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: starstruckk


@ red: I already explained that part in both of my posts above, many times.

There will always be some animosity between Pakistanis and Indians regardless of what some people may think. Everyone isn't on the same page when it comes to these two countries.

You're merely asking me why FANS criticize, say this, do that etc. I can easily ask you why Pakistani players aren't allowed to play within the Indian Premier Leage (IPL) within India? They are the only cricketers that aren't allowed to participate in this league whereas all the cricketers, from all over the world are allowed to. If you go to cricket forums, you'll see how there's so much rivalry amongst fans when it comes to Indians and Pakistanis. Heck, as I said..Pakistani cricketers aren't even allowed to play in something as big as IPL within India because they're banned from doing so. And, many Indian cricket fans agree with the ban. If films/music/tv has no boundaries then how does sports?..and here we're fussing over why any tom, dick and harry over the internet is voicing their opinion on Fawad doing a bollywood movie? seriously? 😆 This is Pakistanis and Indians we're talking about. People always have something to say.

You can't stop people from voicing their thoughts. There's the good and the bad to everything. If tomorrow, Ranbir or Ranveer etc actually do take up something within Pakistan..I can guarantee you some Indians will also retaliate..while some won't care, and others will be cool with it. It's the same on the other side of the border..the only difference is reputable film actors from Bollywood haven't worked in Pakistan.



@ starstruck:
Your pov is very well taken.
Even in your earlier post.
I would like to address a few things you have mentioned.
1) This became a much "not wanted" India v/s Pak post with allegations that India will never give Pak stars a good role or something to that effect on the very 1st page.
No one has forced IA to come here and work OR work in Creature. It was his decision. Its what he got, but THAT's what he took. Can't expect him to get a role like Salman and SRK in his 1st movie. Can he ensure a 200cr collection in 1 week? Obviously not. Even our Khans have taken decades to reach this level.
2) Pak players are not taken in IPL because there are huge stakes. Like you mentioned, there will always be some kind of difference between people of both the nations. In the event there is a political crisis, visas will be refused, and there is a lot to lose.
If you look at Mahesh Bhatt's recent interview, he has praised the talent from Pak, but has also said there is a certainly an amount of risk involved in signing up Pak stars for movies here. Production houses invest a whole lot of money, and if there is a political event and visas are cancelled, the losses are huge.


There is no dearth of Indians who are small minded and say the most nastiest things on news sites and forums. I will never ever condone that.
But, at the same time you will NEVER find our award functions or regular TV show hosts poking fun at anything Pakistani. We might not know your stars well enough, so you might say that's the reason that doesn't happen here.However, please know that there is enough fun poked at ourselves as well as other countries in other circuits. (stand up comedy etc)
If any TV program of ours, or any anchor made racist remarks on the basis of skin color of another country, like it is endlessly made on Pak morning shows about the "dark Indians" let me assure you, there will be a public furor and protest.
My point in argument comes from that.

Voicing thoughts are most welcome. Everyone can do so. But the above mentioned things, which are a regular feature, in the name of entertainment are very different.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chaha_khan


And Who can forget the drama Abhijeet created against Atif Aslam??



If you don't know already, let me tell you that all Indian reality shows are scripted.
for e.g. Do you really think that in shows like KBC, stars always get the correct answers to raise such huge amounts for charity?
Obviously A and AA knew about it, and were well versed with it before it "happened"
Its done to get a reaction, and increase TRP's.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: nevah_mind

@ starstruck:
Your pov is very well taken.
Even in your earlier post.
I would like to address a few things you have mentioned.
1) This became a much "not wanted" India v/s Pak post with allegations that India will never give Pak stars a good role or something to that effect on the very 1st page.
No one has forced IA to come here and work OR work in Creature. It was his decision. Its what he got, but THAT's what he took. Can't expect him to get a role like Salman and SRK in his 1st movie. Can he ensure a 200cr collection in 1 week? Obviously not. Even our Khans have taken decades to reach this level.
2) Pak players are not taken in IPL because there are huge stakes. Like you mentioned, there will always be some kind of difference between people of both the nations. In the event there is a political crisis, visas will be refused, and there is a lot to lose.
If you look at Mahesh Bhatt's recent interview, he has praised the talent from Pak, but has also said there is a certainly an amount of risk involved in signing up Pak stars for movies here. Production houses invest a whole lot of money, and if there is a political event and visas are cancelled, the losses are huge.


There is no dearth of Indians who are small minded and say the most nastiest things on news sites and forums. I will never ever condone that.
But, at the same time you will NEVER find our award functions or regular TV show hosts poking fun at anything Pakistani. We might not know your stars well enough, so you might say that's the reason that doesn't happen here.However, please know that there is enough fun poked at ourselves as well as other countries in other circuits. (stand up comedy etc)
If any TV program of ours, or any anchor made racist remarks on the basis of skin color of another country, like it is endlessly made on Pak morning shows about the "dark Indians" let me assure you, there will be a public furor and protest.
My point in argument comes from that.

Voicing thoughts are most welcome. Everyone can do so. But the above mentioned things, which are a regular feature, in the name of entertainment are very different.


You do know that just like Indian reality shows, morning shows are also scripted, well versed in advanced and all done for TRPs, right? It's all a drama just like Indian reality shows. Morning shows all compete for TRPs and in the end, end up doing ridiculous, nonsensical things baring a few episodes where they may bring a celebrity guest. Other than that, everyone knows it's all a battle of TRPs.

And, I stand by stance..if tomorrow Indians were as familiar with Pakistani actors, it would be a two way street. It's surely like that amongst cricket fans from both sides of the border because both countries are familiar with cricketers from both countries..however it is not the same case when it comes to entertainment. I also don't agree with the case of Pakistani cricketers and IPL. If one wants to be fair, then things CAN be done to show fairness amongst ALL teams and players...but it does end up causing animosity regardless.

Also, I've watched many morning shows for years..and you're exaggerating about the "racist" comments towards Indians. If someone has said it, then as I said..there are people like this on both sides of the borders. If we start getting into what each country calls the other country then this will be a never ending thread.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Exaggeration is what you call being directly offensive? I guess the scale for what offensive is differs here. By all means, you can call my stance exaggeration as well. I wouldn't even think of calling such an opinion directly offensive.

Apart from that, it's clear we're not on the same page..it's safe to say we can agree to disagree here because as I mentioned above this is a never ending debate and, as I mentioned a few pages back..it has been derailed to a Pak vs India issue when the title clearly stated Imran Abbas' performance in Creature 3D.
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