Rewind and Review - Episode 2 - Page 6

Originally posted by: kiranpri

From the point you raised, we see the importance of a mother in the upbringing of their children. You mentioned Asthaa and Rama, how about BM. She has also mothered Shaurya, and we can all see the one track mind he has. It is not just because of Astha that he is as he is, in fact if he had a mother who cared for him as her child and not as a trophy, he should not have missed the presence of Astha...

The second episode has shown us how mothers affect their children when they grow up

I totally agree that Devi messed up Shaurya. But the weapon she used is Aastha, which is why I think Aastha being present had a larger impact on Shaurya as a person than Devi being present.

Originally posted by: kiranpri

Yes I am kiran, I am from Mauritius.

Hi Kiran! Oh man, I've never known anyone from there and now there's you and mehr!

Originally posted by: mallukumari

Shaurya and his parents versus Anokhi and her parents dynamics were the main theme of episode two.

Shaurya seems to have a cantankerous relationship with father and a very resentful relationship with his mother. Shaurya begrudges that his mother chose her career over her family. And from Tejvi’s description, the loss of his wife turned Shaan into an absentee father and a drunkard.
I am unable to understand how a father is able to turn his back on his child. No matter how bug his grief was, it was very selfish of Shaan. I understand he feels not included in his own son’s life today, but somewhere he himself is to blame for that. He let Tejvi take over n was content in his grieving. But he forgot that, he is not the only person who lost someone. Infact, his son lost both his parents!

Shaurya’s life experience has caused him to have an unrealistic and unfair requirement for his wife. It’s good to know what you want in a spouse but to dictate another’s life choice should not be in any other person’s hand. I love how confused Kanchan is that Shaurya is facing this in a “love marriage”. This just shows how much love was actually in ShaSha relationship. It’s also interesting how his requirements for a spouse was all about him and not about the spouse. Oh how the winds will change when the toofan that is our Jugni shows up in his life!

Absolutely! Unrealistic and unfair. Those are the words. I don’t see any love in the relationship between Shaurya and Shagun. At least not from Shaurya’s side. Otherwise he would also pay heed to what Shagun expects from her spouse too. No wonder Kanchan is puzzled.

Rama Bhalla is such a strong character. She cowers in front of her husband but still protects her child in whatever manner she can. This time it was to step in front and hit Anokhi(more gently that Ramesh would have). Rama is also pragmatic. She knows that leaving her husband isn’t a realist option for a woman with no means. But it’s Anokhi’s dreams that leaves me in awe. Her purpose is to study, but not for the love of learning, but because education gives you wings. And like Anokhi says “wings are made for flying”. But Anokhi doesn’t want to succeed for just herself, she does it so that she can ground herself so solidly that she can take her mother to a more secure place in the future. Such a tiny dream that many take for granted. The ability to learn freely, pursue dreams but also have a sense of safety and security at home.
That’s what I said yesterday! Many people see her as a victim. I see her as a survivor.
Anokhi is dream is not just about education. It’s about the freedom to choose. Freedom to live life on her own terms and help her mother in the same.


Shaurya might not feel loved by his parents but he has such male privilege to move about the world freely and unquestioned. Anokhi is lucky enough to feel loved by one parent, but lives restricted in a cage built by her other parent. Shaurya sulks at his situation while Anokhi is a hustler who will persevere.
Both have had difficult childhoods. Both have seen pain at a very young age. Shaurya feels abandoned, Anokhi is made to feel like a burden. Yet Shaurya has the privilege to direct his life according to his liking n Anokhi is caged by her father.

Both deal with their pain in different manners. One chooses to bitter n has a wall around his heart n mask on his face, whereas the other makes her pain her strength and continues to overcome it in every step she takes.

Same precap.

Thoughts?

Me in teal? Turquoise?

Originally posted by: 1sarun

Nice reviews girls. So papa Bhalla is making moves to cut the wings of our dreamer jugni Anokhi who wants to fly away for herself and her mom and there on the other side our sulker Shaurya has broken his engagement much against his papa's wish and cementing his hatred for his mom and dad for abondoning him as a child.

Wish there are ASTHA'S for all the ANOKHI'S out there dreaming of wings to fly high.

True. The Anokhi’s of the world need someone like Aastha for sure. Anokhi’s dream is not just education, it’s freedom. Which is the right of every being.

As for Shaurya it is not just hatred, it’s fear. Fear that Shagun will abandon him too, so in order to avoid giving her that power over him, he chooses to break the engagement. Is he unfair asking Shagun to choose between him n her career. Of course most certainly yes!

But, it’s also fair to end a relationship which is bound to face turmoil in future coz the couple are not ready to stand with each other, or at least Shaurya is not.

Originally posted by: mallukumari

Thank you for doing the daily twitter summary Lavs!

It’s my pleasure Anju. 🤗
I am just happy to see so many people participating in the rewatch and sharing their reviews.

Originally posted by: Bhavisweet03

Shaan said correctly. Bilkul apni maa ki tarah jiddi hai

Bilkul. Shaurya Ziddi Aastha Sabarwal! 😃

Me in blue!

Originally posted by: lavs_157

I am unable to understand how a father is able to turn his back on his child. No matter how bug his grief was, it was very selfish of Shaan. I understand he feels not included in his own son’s life today, but somewhere he himself is to blame for that. He let Tejvi take over n was content in his grieving. But he forgot that, he is not the only person who lost someone. Infact, his son lost both his parents!

You're so right that Shaan did cause his own misery. I was really quick to sympathize with him on my first watch. But rewatching(maybe colored by his future actions), I'm starting to see how unfair he's been to his own child.

Absolutely! Unrealistic and unfair. Those are the words. I don’t see any love in the relationship between Shaurya and Shagun. At least not from Shaurya’s side. Otherwise he would also pay heed to what Shagun expects from her spouse too. No wonder Kanchan is puzzled.
That’s what I said yesterday! Many people see her as a victim. I see her as a survivor.

I had such a different take on Rama when I first watched. She seemed like the quintessential woman who was abused and torn down by life, who was also trying to keep her daughter down. Again second time around, I see all the little things she tries to do to support her child and also sympathize with her situation more.

Anokhi is dream is not just about education. It’s about the freedom to choose. Freedom to live life on her own terms and help her mother in the same.

Both have had difficult childhoods. Both have seen pain at a very young age. Shaurya feels abandoned, Anokhi is made to feel like a burden. Yet Shaurya has the privilege to direct his life according to his liking n Anokhi is caged by her father.

Both deal with their pain in different manners. One chooses to bitter n has a wall around his heart n mask on his face, whereas the other makes her pain her strength and continues to overcome it in every step she takes.

Shaurya's pain has given him such a razor tongue that he uses to hurt others, but Anokhi seems more internalized. She's defiant but surprisingly respectful. Neither of them really let their happiness reach their eyes. My babies need a hug!

Originally posted by: lavs_157

https://twitter.com/ashialee99/status/1419820211268636672?s=21

Aastha has never minced her words. That’s why we have always loved her.

Aastha is 🔥🔥🔥🙌 I wish many teachers would be like her. Drive kids to be themselves while working hard towards their goals.

SHAAKH was a very odd show for me. Normally it is easy to pick sides in a show, you know who is wrong and who is right but this show brings up mixed emotions in me. In re-watch, the feeling is even more intensified maybe because you know how it plays out in future. You can clearly see how both perspectives are fair and correct in their own rights and it becomes a story of choices and context.

People tend to overcompensate for what they see a flaw in their upbringing. Shaurya felt the pain of his parents abandonment very deeply as a child so he is determined that his kid will not go through the same. In his head, he has connected career oriented woman to being selfish/ ambitious to a risk of splintered family life and abandoned kid. He is not risking his and his progeny's fate on the whim of another person even though he accepts that there are women who do both very well. The fact that Shagun has brought so late in the game and is determined to choose career re-enforces his belief. It does not help that none of his father's argument can change the truth -his mother left them for her selfishness and ambitions.

I am unsure what Shagun wanted. It is pretty clear to me that she is not in love with Shaurya though she does seem emotionally invested in him to a certain extent. Their conversation is stilted with no hint of intimacy that you would expect in a love marraige. My guess is she wanted it all except Shaurya is not willing to compromise. It just might be social pressure or familial expectation that might be driving Shagun to still try for a relationship with Shaurya. From Shaurya's end this marriage gets him nothing, he is obviously not emotionally invested, Shagun no longer meets his requirements. He also clearly sees that he is not what Shagun needs in her life. Why drag the unnecessary relationship, instead it is better to shoot for a clean break?

On Anokhi's end, she has connected her identity to freedom to self sufficiency to getting a job and education gets her there. She aspires for a better life not for just herself but also her mother. She is determined to give her mother options to walk away from prison known as Bhalla household. Though it is the most logical connection. It is not completely true. There are a lot of working women who are still abused and exploited maybe twice as much because not only they are treated as maids but their hard-earned money is used to fulfill the whims of their in-laws. They are still very much trapped.

In later stages of the show I was constantly frustrated with how much Anokhi idolized Astha and how she seemed to de-priortize her husband and her marraige constantly. It was almost as if she was scared to accept her identity as a married woman and give even an inch. The episode today gave the answer and Anju provided the rest in yesterday's review. Anokhi sees Astha as an unicorn. She is so enamored with what thinks Astha is and has achieved that she undermines all the other aspects of life where Astha might have failed or made a hard choice. As Anju mentioned yesterday it is ironic that Anokhi idolizes the person who is the biggest failure from Shauya's perspective. I too wonder what led Astha to chose her parents over her four year old kid who completely depended on her. It was a tough and very unusual choice. Everytime someone tries to shatter Astha's image or puts her down, Anokhi defends her with her might because if her illusion of Astha is broken, she will have to face the brutal reality of her life that there is truly no way to freedom. I can also see how Astha's personal experiences have impacted her thought process and suddenly marriage is the fire that destroys women's identity and their aspirations. Anokhi has already seen an example of this with her mother. Anokhi is absorbing all of this slowly and gradually and it will eventually impact how she priortizes her marraige and how she fears if she gives in once, it would set stage to trample her identity forever.

Middle class families with limited resources tend to struggle with education vs marraige conundrum. I remember a few years back one of our neighbors had lamented about the fact that he had limited funds to invest in his daughter, he could either in invest it in his daughter's marriage or her her higher education. Even if he invested in her education as his daughter was insisting, he would be expected to spend even more in her marriage. Afterall he would have to find a match for his daughter who would intellectually complement her after her higher education and those grooms normally came with even higher price tag. He also worried that his daughter would be expected to carry the weight of both her household and her job and that would make for a very turbulent life. There is no easy answer to challenges that one faces in life.

Originally posted by: pj10

SHAAKH was a very odd show for me. Normally it is easy to pick sides in a show, you know who is wrong and who is right but this show brings up mixed emotions in me. In re-watch, the feeling is even more intensified maybe because you know how it plays out in future. You can clearly see how both perspectives are fair and correct in their own rights and it becomes a story of choices and context.

People tend to overcompensate for what they see a flaw in their upbringing. Shaurya felt the pain of his parents abandonment very deeply as a child so he is determined that his kid will not go through the same. In his head, he has connected career oriented woman to being selfish/ ambitious to a risk of splintered family life and abandoned kid. He is not risking his and his progeny's fate on the whim of another person even though he accepts that there are women who do both very well. The fact that Shagun has brought so late in the game and is determined to choose career re-enforces his belief. It does not help that none of his father's argument can change the truth -his mother left them for her selfishness and ambitions.

I am unsure what Shagun wanted. It is pretty clear to me that she is not in love with Shaurya though she does seem emotionally invested in him to a certain extent. Their conversation is stilted with no hint of intimacy that you would expect in a love marraige. My guess is she wanted it all except Shaurya is not willing to compromise. It just might be social pressure or familial expectation that might be driving Shagun to still try for a relationship with Shaurya. From Shaurya's end this marriage gets him nothing, he is obviously not emotionally invested, Shagun no longer meets his requirements. He also clearly sees that he is not what Shagun needs in her life. Why drag the unnecessary relationship, instead it is better to shoot for a clean break?

On Anokhi's end, she has connected her identity to freedom to self sufficiency to getting a job and education gets her there. She aspires for a better life not for just herself but also her mother. She is determined to give her mother options to walk away from prison known as Bhalla household. Though it is the most logical connection. It is not completely true. There are a lot of working women who are still abused and exploited maybe twice as much because not only they are treated as maids but their hard-earned money is used to fulfill the whims of their in-laws. They are still very much trapped.

In later stages of the show I was constantly frustrated with how much Anokhi idolized Astha and how she seemed to de-priortize her husband and her marraige constantly. It was almost as if she was scared to accept her identity as a married woman and give even an inch. The episode today gave the answer and Anju provided the rest in yesterday's review. Anokhi sees Astha as an unicorn. She is so enamored with what thinks Astha is and has achieved that she undermines all the other aspects of life where Astha might have failed or made a hard choice. As Anju mentioned yesterday it is ironic that Anokhi idolizes the person who is the biggest failure from Shauya's perspective. I too wonder what led Astha to chose her parents over her four year old kid who completely depended on her. It was a tough and very unusual choice. Everytime someone tries to shatter Astha's image or puts her down, Anokhi defends her with her might because if her illusion of Astha is broken, she will have to face the brutal reality of her life that there is truly no way to freedom. I can also see how Astha's personal experiences have impacted her thought process and suddenly marriage is the fire that destroys women's identity and their aspirations. Anokhi has already seen an example of this with her mother. Anokhi is absorbing all of this slowly and gradually and it will eventually impact how she priortizes her marraige and how she fears if she gives in once, it would set stage to trample her identity forever.

Middle class families with limited resources tend to struggle with education vs marraige conundrum. I remember a few years back one of our neighbors had lamented about the fact that he had limited funds to invest in his daughter, he could either in invest it in his daughter's marriage or her her higher education. Even if he invested in her education as his daughter was insisting, he would be expected to spend even more in her marriage. Afterall he would have to find a match for his daughter who would intellectually complement her after her higher education and those grooms normally came with even higher price tag. He also worried that his daughter would be expected to carry the weight of both her household and her job and that would make for a very turbulent life. There is no easy answer to challenges that one faces in life.

I liked the way you analysed Anokhi and the way she is absorbing information relating to marriage and its risk.

I also realise she sees Astha as the ultimate woman who has achieved it through education.

Not knowing anything about Astha's past and the decision that the latter has taken, she has a rosy picture of a woman having a career and taking care of her parents.