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Posted: 4 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: kiranpri

Last paragraph.

You are completely right.

I am one such example where after marriage I started my university, had a child and still continued with Masters and PhD. Had to go abroad several times for as long as one whole year and never even thought of asking for permission, it does not exist in my vocabulary.

It is nor like my parents were against my having further studies but we could not afford it.

I am like Anokhi went through my studies through scholarships.

My in laws never said anything against my studies. They even bid me farewell at the airport when I first went for Mr masters.

I had a good support system in my mum and husband.

I remember during my interview for university and the scholarship I was asked if I could manage being married and whether my in laws would agree.

My answer was I would not have applied if I could not do it.


HOWEVER, there are very few people like me. In my own family several people could not comprehend but given my husband had no problem, nobody dared to say anything.

There are still cases like Anokhi who are considered as a burden, whatever the wakes of society. I am not from India, but we hear a lot about dowry problem and such stories.

It is good to have a serial which brought forward this soch. Time to get people to reflect. It is not like it is a matter of uneducated people who think like that but also well educated and good people who have been brought up with this mindset that at some point it is the marriage which is the ultimate goal of a girl.

@bold: I think the fact that in a university interview, they would ask such a question to a female tells us how women's responsibilities are viewed. I'm sure a married male doesn't get asked if they can balance home and school because they're not expected to do anything at home so balance isn't needed. Society and its double standards.

And the fact that family needs the assurance that a man is okay with his wife's decision to not badger her. As if him being not okay gives them license to have an opinion.


Btw, is your name kiran? I don't think I've introduced myself. I'm Anju by the way!! I'm from India, but live in the US. Where you from?

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Posted: 4 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: black.snowflake

Ah!

We arrive at the crossroads again!! So sad is it not that Shaan decides to be an absent father and an alcoholic yet it's blamed on the mother.Anokhi's "misbehaviour" is blamed on the mother.Anokhi gets slapped for no fault of hers. It's very obvious that we are looking at this issue of blaming the woman, hurting her and insulting her if anything goes wrong. This is an extremely strong theme.

Shaan chose his life. It's his fault is it not? Rami Bhalla chose his life and then how can both these men blame the women in their life for their issues.

And see how it impacts the kids, the parents. Shaurya's yearning for love and his fear of being left. Anokhi's yearning for freedom to the extent that she would run away if she could.

A strong theme around parenting or the lack of it I must say from the father's end.

Great points!👏

The lack of men's presence in their children's life, but still wanting respect and acknowledgement from them.

Both the moms have shaped their children's psyche....Aastha by not being present has instilled a fear of abandonment in her son.....Rama by being present but helpless has given her daughter motivation to never end up in the same situation.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepsea_27

You are really fortunate my friend and god bless you and your family for that.I really wish every girl gets a support system like you have.As a woman Iam happy for you.

However Husband is the key person here.If he is with you his family might be ok with it too.My bhabhi is doctor.She completed her MD and persuing her DM and my parents offer the best possible support system to her.My brother is a doctor too so he made things pretty clear initially.My parents were more than happy.Iam married into a family with orthidox principles.Husband does not say anything and I tried bringing some changes which were opposed at first but later approved.

In my opinion be it house wife or a career oriented woman she deserves respect in either case.Husband and wife are equal partners and both of them.must co operate with each other.Families are to be handled well by both of them.Fathers are role models for most of sons. So for a husband to be good his father has to be good too.

I love reading all these conversations. We're all so privileged in our own way. And the show is geared towards changing the orthodox mindset and getting those not so privileged girls an opportunity with education.

I love that the show didn't just say that a middle class family has these beliefs, even the rich upper class has these traditional beliefs that hinder the advancement of women.

And all of us are talking about women having choices and having support and not disrespecting a woman for whatever choice she makes. 👏

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Posted: 4 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: deepsea_27

You are really fortunate my friend and god bless you and your family for that.I really wish every girl gets a support system like you have.As a woman Iam happy for you.

However Husband is the key person here.If he is with you his family might be ok with it too.My bhabhi is doctor.She completed her MD and persuing her DM and my parents offer the best possible support system to her.My brother is a doctor too so he made things pretty clear initially.My parents were more than happy.Iam married into a family with orthidox principles.Husband does not say anything and I tried bringing some changes which were opposed at first but later approved.

In my opinion be it house wife or a career oriented woman she deserves respect in either case.Husband and wife are equal partners and both of them.must co operate with each other.Families are to be handled well by both of them.Fathers are role models for most of sons. So for a husband to be good his father has to be good too.

I love reading all these conversations. We're all so privileged in our own way. And the show is geared towards changing the orthodox mindset and getting those not so privileged girls an opportunity with education.

I love that the show didn't just say that a middle class family has these beliefs, even the rich upper class has these traditional beliefs that hinder the advancement of women.

And all of us are talking about women having choices and having support and not disrespecting a woman for whatever choice she makes. 👏

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Posted: 4 years ago
#45

Join in everyone who wants to relieve this journey again .Let's make our discussions more lively like earlier .We can all cherish this journey of saak again .Let's just try to keep the show going off air factor aside .

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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Naara

One thing I realised that in the initial episodes atleast from the second episode anokhis story is given more importance than shauryas .She has more screen presence as well.Also considering how orthodox rami bhalla is in the initial episodes and his sudden transformation in ep 150 felt like too sudden .They should have shown it in a better way by giving the transformation some more time .

Just finished watching the second episode. Indeed Anokhi was given a lot of screen space. I believe it was necessary to build the base on which her character would be developed. it was important to show the extent to which she has had to fight to be able to study and the unhappy childhood she has spent.

there must other Anokhis in the world facing such situations, In fact if you look at it kanchan is in a similar position, but the difference she does not have a support like Astha and she is a well dressed, well presented Anokhi, whose wings have been cut. However she has accepted her fate believing it is her destiny.

But not all girls are like kanchan, there are those like Anokhi who wants to fly and feel the freedom which they know is there out in the world.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: mallukumari

Great points!👏

The lack of men's presence in their children's life, but still wanting respect and acknowledgement from them.

Both the moms have shaped their children's psyche....Aastha by not being present has instilled a fear of abandonment in her son.....Rama by being present but helpless has given her daughter motivation to never end up in the same situation.

From the point you raised, we see the importance of a mother in the upbringing of their children. You mentioned Asthaa and Rama, how about BM. She has also mothered Shaurya, and we can all see the one track mind he has. It is not just because of Astha that he is as he is, in fact if he had a mother who cared for him as her child and not as a trophy, he should not have missed the presence of Astha...

The second episode has shown us how mothers affect their children when they grow up

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Posted: 4 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: mallukumari

@bold: I think the fact that in a university interview, they would ask such a question to a female tells us how women's responsibilities are viewed. I'm sure a married male doesn't get asked if they can balance home and school because they're not expected to do anything at home so balance isn't needed. Society and its double standards.

You are right, I was annoyed when I was asked that question, but then needed to be polite.

And the fact that family needs the assurance that a man is okay with his wife's decision to not badger her. As if him being not okay gives them license to have an opinion.

😃 The fact is nobody wants to have panga with me... I have always been like Anokhi, never accepting defeat and going about my life. The word permission does not exist in my vocabulary.

Btw, is your name kiran? I don't think I've introduced myself. I'm Anju by the way!! I'm from India, but live in the US. Where you from?

Yes I am kiran, I am from Mauritius.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#49

The conversation I enjoyed the most today was 'Tum Anokhi ho aur Anokhi ban ke dikhana'.

This applies for everyone, It is not just for this girl but for everyone out there, We should be ourselves and not try to emulate anybody.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#50

Shaurya did not have much to say in today's episode. Logically speaking he is not wrong in what he is saying and doing since he mentions he had already told Shagun what he was looking for in his wife.

Now try to make a brainwashed man understand that a girl can multi task and be a wife, a mother and having a career. On top of that it is his father who is telling him that, the one person who abandoned him when his mother was not here, and whiled away his days shirking his own responsibility as a father.

No wonder shaurya would not listen or even be interested in what he is saying...

As for BM, BP and Alok, already we can see there this this gang who controls the household. the king, the queen and the joker.

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