Rewind and Review - Episode 2 - Page 3

But I have seen the opposite too… more in numbers… wife sacrifices career or further studies to accompany husband to another state or country

Starting episodes always form a base for further episodes. I will start with sabrawals. Oh my god bade papa badi maa what soch you have. Shaan was right. They shouldn't talk like this as they themselves run educational institution. Shaurya wanted a homemaker is okay but forcing shagun to choose is not okay. She want to study. They are telling shaurya's mother left him for her career and shaan became alcoholic. I think this may be the reason shaurya is behaving in such a manner. It's not about study career it's like abandonment issues. I remember dear zindagi dialogue isse pehle wo tumko reject kare tum unko reject kar deti ho. Same with shaurya shagun just want two years. But it was shaurya's fear she will come back or not, she will move on in London etc. So he reject her before she thought of rejecting him.

Now coming to bhalla family. Anokhi's dialogue were good. Her mom does so much for everyone still no respect. It was like kuch acha hua toh because of Mr bhalla and kuch bura hua toh mrs bhalla is responsible 🙄. Anokhi mom slap her 😱 then pampered her okay it was her way to stop the things going out of control.

Anokhi astha scene. Astha's dialogue muje dar lagta tum jaisi bright student ke liye shadi k mandap mai sapne swaha etc etc. I disagree with her here. There are many girls whose fight for their dreams after marriage, some get support from husband family. Even there are some girls whose get actual aim of their life after marriage. Yes there are many girls like that whose dreams get destroyed after marriage but there are some other examples also. Dialogue writer should be careful while writing this kind of dialogues. Just to upgrade one thing you can't degrade other aspects. (It's just my pov many members may not agree with it but I think it's okay opinion differs).

Shaurya and his parents versus Anokhi and her parents dynamics were the main theme of episode two.

Shaurya seems to have a cantankerous relationship with father and a very resentful relationship with his mother. Shaurya begrudges that his mother chose her career over her family. And from Tejvi’s description, the loss of his wife turned Shaan into an absentee father and a drunkard.

Shaurya’s life experience has caused him to have an unrealistic and unfair requirement for his wife. It’s good to know what you want in a spouse but to dictate another’s life choice should not be in any other person’s hand. I love how confused Kanchan is that Shaurya is facing this in a “love marriage”. This just shows how much love was actually in ShaSha relationship. It’s also interesting how his requirements for a spouse was all about him and not about the spouse. Oh how the winds will change when the toofan that is our Jugni shows up in his life!

Rama Bhalla is such a strong character. She cowers in front of her husband but still protects her child in whatever manner she can. This time it was to step in front and hit Anokhi(more gently that Ramesh would have). Rama is also pragmatic. She knows that leaving her husband isn’t a realist option for a woman with no means. But it’s Anokhi’s dreams that leaves me in awe. Her purpose is to study, but not for the love of learning, but because education gives you wings. And like Anokhi says “wings are made for flying”. But Anokhi doesn’t want to succeed for just herself, she does it so that she can ground herself so solidly that she can take her mother to a more secure place in the future. Such a tiny dream that many take for granted. The ability to learn freely, pursue dreams but also have a sense of safety and security at home.

Shaurya might not feel loved by his parents but he has such male privilege to move about the world freely and unquestioned. Anokhi is lucky enough to feel loved by one parent, but lives restricted in a cage built by her other parent. Shaurya sulks at his situation while Anokhi is a hustler who will persevere.

Same precap.

Thoughts?

One thing is there in the initial storyline had a lot of potential for shaan and aastha .Their storyline needed to be delved into further but it took a backseat once sakhis lovestory started .I just wish if we get a season 2 the past of Noor and shaan is shown properly.

Originally posted by: mamta22

Starting episodes always form a base for further episodes. I will start with sabrawals. Oh my god bade papa badi maa what soch you have. Shaan was right. They shouldn't talk like this as they themselves run educational institution. Shaurya wanted a homemaker is okay but forcing shagun to choose is not okay. She want to study. They are telling shaurya's mother left him for her career and shaan became alcoholic. I think this may be the reason shaurya is behaving in such a manner. It's not about study career it's like abandonment issues. I remember dear zindagi dialogue isse pehle wo tumko reject kare tum unko reject kar deti ho. Same with shaurya shagun just want two years. But it was shaurya's fear she will come back or not, she will move on in London etc. So he reject her before she thought of rejecting him.

Now coming to bhalla family. Anokhi's dialogue were good. Her mom does so much for everyone still no respect. It was like kuch acha hua toh because of Mr bhalla and kuch bura hua toh mrs bhalla is responsible 🙄. Anokhi mom slap her 😱 then pampered her okay it was her way to stop the things going out of control.

Anokhi astha scene. Astha's dialogue muje dar lagta tum jaisi bright student ke liye shadi k mandap mai sapne swaha etc etc. I disagree with her here. There are many girls whose fight for their dreams after marriage, some get support from husband family. Even there are some girls whose get actual aim of their life after marriage. Yes there are many girls like that whose dreams get destroyed after marriage but there are some other examples also. Dialogue writer should be careful while writing this kind of dialogues. Just to upgrade one thing you can't degrade other aspects. (It's just my pov many members may not agree with it but I think it's okay opinion differs).

Last paragraph.

You are completely right.

I am one such example where after marriage I started my university, had a child and still continued with Masters and PhD. Had to go abroad several times for as long as one whole year and never even thought of asking for permission, it does not exist in my vocabulary.

It is nor like my parents were against my having further studies but we could not afford it.

I am like Anokhi went through my studies through scholarships.

My in laws never said anything against my studies. They even bid me farewell at the airport when I first went for Mr masters.

I had a good support system in my mum and husband.

I remember during my interview for university and the scholarship I was asked if I could manage being married and whether my in laws would agree.

My answer was I would not have applied if I could not do it.

HOWEVER, there are very few people like me. In my own family several people could not comprehend but given my husband had no problem, nobody dared to say anything.

There are still cases like Anokhi who are considered as a burden, whatever the wakes of society. I am not from India, but we hear a lot about dowry problem and such stories.

It is good to have a serial which brought forward this soch. Time to get people to reflect. It is not like it is a matter of uneducated people who think like that but also well educated and good people who have been brought up with this mindset that at some point it is the marriage which is the ultimate goal of a girl.

Ah!

We arrive at the crossroads again!! So sad is it not that Shaan decides to be an absent father and an alcoholic yet it's blamed on the mother.Anokhi's "misbehaviour" is blamed on the mother.Anokhi gets slapped for no fault of hers. It's very obvious that we are looking at this issue of blaming the woman, hurting her and insulting her if anything goes wrong. This is an extremely strong theme.

Shaan chose his life. It's his fault is it not? Rami Bhalla chose his life and then how can both these men blame the women in their life for their issues.

And see how it impacts the kids, the parents. Shaurya's yearning for love and his fear of being left. Anokhi's yearning for freedom to the extent that she would run away if she could.

A strong theme around parenting or the lack of it I must say from the father's end.

Originally posted by: kiranpri

Last paragraph.

You are completely right.

I am one such example where after marriage I started my university, had a child and still continued with Masters and PhD. Had to go abroad several times for as long as one whole year and never even thought of asking for permission, it does not exist in my vocabulary.

It is nor like my parents were against my having further studies but we could not afford it.

I am like Anokhi went through my studies through scholarships.

My in laws never said anything against my studies. They even bid me farewell at the airport when I first went for Mr masters.

I had a good support system in my mum and husband.

I remember during my interview for university and the scholarship I was asked if I could manage being married and whether my in laws would agree.

My answer was I would not have applied if I could not do it.

HOWEVER, there are very few people like me. In my own family several people could not comprehend but given my husband had no problem, nobody dared to say anything.

There are still cases like Anokhi who are considered as a burden, whatever the wakes of society. I am not from India, but we hear a lot about dowry problem and such stories.

It is good to have a serial which brought forward this soch. Time to get people to reflect. It is not like it is a matter of uneducated people who think like that but also well educated and good people who have been brought up with this mindset that at some point it is the marriage which is the ultimate goal of a girl.

Like your views. You are right there are some girls like anokhi whose parents or in-laws were the hurdles in pursuing their dreams. They have to fight for their rights. My problem in saakk is with the dialogue writers. The way they wrote Astha's dialogue in second episode it feels like marriage means end of 'every' girls dreams. Education is every individuals right but after completion of education if a girl wants career or wants to be a home maker it's her choice. I have seen some people who degrade the girls choice if she wants to be home maker.

I just want to say don't consider a single situation as it is representing whole country or world's situation. Dialogue writers should be careful while writing these kind of dialogues. Don't represent anokhi's situation as 'every' girls situation.

Originally posted by: mamta22

Like your views. You are right there are some girls like anokhi whose parents or in-laws were the hurdles in pursuing their dreams. They have to fight for their rights. My problem in saakk is with the dialogue writers. The way they wrote Astha's dialogue in second episode it feels like marriage means end of 'every' girls dreams. Education is every individuals right but after completion of education if a girl wants career or wants to be a home maker it's her choice. I have seen some people who degrade the girls choice if she wants to be home maker.

I just want to say don't consider a single situation as it is representing whole country or world's situation. Dialogue writers should be careful while writing these kind of dialogues. Don't represent anokhi's situation as 'every' girls situation.

I believe Astha is talking more from personal experience and as you suggest when making observations one should not generalise ..

Originally posted by: kiranpri

Last paragraph.

You are completely right.

I am one such example where after marriage I started my university, had a child and still continued with Masters and PhD. Had to go abroad several times for as long as one whole year and never even thought of asking for permission, it does not exist in my vocabulary.

It is nor like my parents were against my having further studies but we could not afford it.

I am like Anokhi went through my studies through scholarships.

My in laws never said anything against my studies. They even bid me farewell at the airport when I first went for Mr masters.

I had a good support system in my mum and husband.

I remember during my interview for university and the scholarship I was asked if I could manage being married and whether my in laws would agree.

My answer was I would not have applied if I could not do it.

HOWEVER, there are very few people like me. In my own family several people could not comprehend but given my husband had no problem, nobody dared to say anything.

There are still cases like Anokhi who are considered as a burden, whatever the wakes of society. I am not from India, but we hear a lot about dowry problem and such stories.

It is good to have a serial which brought forward this soch. Time to get people to reflect. It is not like it is a matter of uneducated people who think like that but also well educated and good people who have been brought up with this mindset that at some point it is the marriage which is the ultimate goal of a girl.

You are really fortunate my friend and god bless you and your family for that.I really wish every girl gets a support system like you have.As a woman Iam happy for you.

However Husband is the key person here.If he is with you his family might be ok with it too.My bhabhi is doctor.She completed her MD and persuing her DM and my parents offer the best possible support system to her.My brother is a doctor too so he made things pretty clear initially.My parents were more than happy.Iam married into a family with orthidox principles.Husband does not say anything and I tried bringing some changes which were opposed at first but later approved.

In my opinion be it house wife or a career oriented woman she deserves respect in either case.Husband and wife are equal partners and both of them.must co operate with each other.Families are to be handled well by both of them.Fathers are role models for most of sons. So for a husband to be good his father has to be good too.

After watching the episode I’m still salty why did they redeem Mr Bhalla? Marriage could’ve happened with Shaurya even in his absence.

In today’s episode Anokhi said if at all she comes back it would be to take her mom along with her. How much I would’ve loved to see that. A great one to see in season2 but they killed all my hopes.

Also I liked the scene where Ab tells Astha she would like to become like her but Astha remembers her sad past and says she is unique and there’s no need to become like someone else.