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Posted: 1 years ago
#61

~ Posting this one here. Didn't realise we were already on Thread #3. Congratulations Arpita! ~


I'm going to comment before I get lost into the discussions and continue reading them and then not comment.


First of all, Learrn, Ashvini, Tashi, Puja, You-Know-Who - You guys have pretty much said everything that I had to and more.


Learrn!! Damn, your analyzing skills are a different level altogether. The way you make your points and to support those you also quote the lines from the particular chapter, is just brilliant. You articulate so well.


Coming to the updates - Arpita, you are an amazing writer! I think with each chapter you have just outdone yourself. This thread is evidence to that. The amount of discussions happening is unbelievable! And soon we'd be moving to Thread #3 with just 2 chapters here.



Someone else mentioned earlier, you've made us judge Arnav, hate him and now we see things in a different light.


Expectations can ruin the best of people. For a person who has been living upto and beyond expectations from family and friends for this long, he was bound to be overburdened with its weight. If even at one instance, a person fails to live up to these expectations, it can result in guilt. Arnav here has always been asked to repeatedly do the right thing. I'm guessing something in the past (more so to do with Anjali) has gone wrong and he is blaming himself. Again, for some it would be seen as self-pity but from Arnav's POV it is guilt. Guilt of not doing the right thing. Something that he is expected to do. He has been living his life just checking off his to-do list. Parents at times do not understand how much pressure certain words/statements can put on their children. It can get unhealthy leading to mental stress for the child (whether kid/adult). And when the person is drowned in guilt that has only piled up over the years, the sense of decision-making can get clouded. The fallout between Arnav and his father feels like there were expectations that were not met. A weird guess, but I think Part #4 of The Memory Lane might be from Arnav's father's POV.


In my earlier comments, I mentioned Arnav's behaviour towards Khushi (Oct-Nov-Dec 2015) was just crass. Now, I see where that crass behaviour was coming from. The guy has been depressed with the things that have happened in the past, happened over the last 1 year and especially the stuff that happened just 3 months before his 10th anniversary. A few people who are in depression do not really like sharing their thoughts with someone close. They would find it difficult thinking that they'd be judged. He did think of seeking professional help but that just didn't happen. I do feel that such people who take decisions under the influence of guilt, just end up hurting their loved ones without the intention of doing that. It's the same I see with Arnav. Sometimes all one needs is just for someone to listen to their side of the story without being judged. No wonder, Arnav just let it all out to Aakash. I'm no psychologist, but I've seen enough around me to say the above things. Depression is not something anyone faces in the same fashion. It differs from individual to individual. This also means that the people around depressed individuals will also be going through a lot of difficult situations involving them.


Having mentioned that, I do not say that Arnav was never wrong in the way he treated Khushi. Although it was all done with good intent, it wasn't the right thing to do. His decision-making was flawed no doubt. He let his guilt take over and made assumptions about non-existential things. He wanted to tell the truth to Khushi but he was a little too late.


Khushi on the other hand is a pure soul. She didn't deserve what happened to her. I still say that my heart just breaks for her. Her agony has still not ended. The few more revelations left, are sure to pull her down a little bit more. If Arnav is flawed, so is Khushi but not to the extent of flawed that Arnav is. She let her insecurities win when she didn't confront Arnav when she received those photos. I understand that the last few months/year before their divorce, he hasn't really given her that confidence to trust him. But when he gets her back to the Penthouse from Umanagar, and starts of the confrontation, she accused him of the assumptions she made when she saw the photographs. But there's a difference between the way the two have made assumptions on the situations. Khushi is tricked into making the assumptions based on 'evidence' that she received, while Arnav makes his assumptions about Khushi not being happy with him based on his guilt. But both did make assumptions (Sangat ka asar). Both of them didn't talk it out. I feel like none of this would have happened if they just talked initially. But then, we wouldn't have this story too, if they did what we think they should have done in the given circumstances. :)


Arnav really needs professional help. He is kinda suicidal. There have been two instances where he just wants to end it all so that he can't feel the guilt anymore. He assumes it'll be easier that way. And here too, his guilt clouds his better judgement. Doesn't think of the consequences and how it would affect the people who love him. Along with himself, he has dragged Khushi too into the mess, who will also need her own healing now.



Coming to BML. The women are the worst of the kind. The lengths that people go through because of their obsession. I kind of sense that Arnav was drugged. He does recount a college party incident where he mixed his drinks and ended up being wasted, after which he clearly didn't mix his drinks in the future. He also says that the Server must have mixed the drinks. I'm unsure but I didn't read that Arnav was requesting for a different kind of drink after gulping down the previous. He was just asking for a refill, which means he wasn't wanting his drinks to be mixed. Giving the amount of booze that he has been consuming, I'm pretty sure he knew his capacity to handle the drinks. Also, he seemed fine before he consumed the last drink that he had for the night which was served by someone who BL had requested to replace the glasses. The woman who could fake a pregnancy, cry about it and guilt-trip the man, could also pretend to be drunk. I mean she's an actress. Ofcourse, she knew Arnav was coming to her party something that he had not done before. Why would she get drunk to not be in her senses when she knew she had a plan in place to have what she desired years ago? When BL came to sit next to Arnav at the party, she adjusted her dress. I don't think in a drunken state of mind somebody would think of such little things to do (Am I reading too much into this?). She doesn't have a drink too when with Arnav. Supposedly, was high enough to 'pass out' on Arnav. All this was also being observed by Manali who only came to them when Arnav asked her to help with BL. Someone who couldn't handle her own self a few minutes ago, now rescues a full-ass grown man and pulls him to safety. Arnav does say that she slurred. But the man's mind was foggy enough, whatever was being said whether slurred speech or not, would still sound slurred. And then she came onto him. He said NO multiple times. He is clearly taken advantage of!

I would still wait to read BL's memory lane. There'll be quite a lot more revealed there. I keep telling myself not to make assumptions, because Arpita just weaves her magic and I get proved wrong. So will wait for you to tell us more on BML.


The subconscious mind is quite powerful. I do feel deep down Arnav knows that he has been violated. He does cry outside his old building feeling scared of the people and the world around him. His gut feeling is probably coming to fore here but then again, there's his guilt that overpowers and he ends up blaming himself.


I do feel like I've missed out on a few things that I wanted to mention here. Will post when I remember them.


Thanks for this great chapter Arpita.

P.S.: I hope you are doing much much better now!

🤗

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Nimbus! These are the best kind of responses that I like to read on these stories. I see a long review and i get happy thinking someone again poured their heart out on a tale that has my heart wrapped around it now. It’s a whole other experience out here 😍


I have added my points to your already brilliant analysis



Originally posted by: Nimbus_211

~ Posting this one here. Didn't realise we were already on Thread #3. Congratulations Arpita! ~


I'm going to comment before I get lost into the discussions and continue reading them and then not comment.


First of all, Learrn, Ashvini, Tashi, Puja, You-Know-Who - You guys have pretty much said everything that I had to and more.


Learrn!! Damn, your analyzing skills are a different level altogether. The way you make your points and to support those you also quote the lines from the particular chapter, is just brilliant. You articulate so well.


Thank you soooo much! I have spent a lot of time here and I was shamelessly appointing myself kind of an expert on chapter contents 😂 unless the author runs behind me with her chappals


Coming to the updates - Arpita, you are an amazing writer! I think with each chapter you have just outdone yourself. This thread is evidence to that. The amount of discussions happening is unbelievable! And soon we'd be moving to Thread #3 with just 2 chapters here.


She is always going to bring in a twist that after reading seems like the most expected thing, but not something you would have thought on your first try. I’m terrified of every future update



Someone else mentioned earlier, you've made us judge Arnav, hate him and now we see things in a different light.


Expectations can ruin the best of people. For a person who has been living upto and beyond expectations from family and friends for this long, he was bound to be overburdened with its weight. If even at one instance, a person fails to live up to these expectations, it can result in guilt. Arnav here has always been asked to repeatedly do the right thing. I'm guessing something in the past (more so to do with Anjali) has gone wrong and he is blaming himself. Again, for some it would be seen as self-pity but from Arnav's POV it is guilt. Guilt of not doing the right thing. Something that he is expected to do. He has been living his life just checking off his to-do list. Parents at times do not understand how much pressure certain words/statements can put on their children. It can get unhealthy leading to mental stress for the child (whether kid/adult). And when the person is drowned in guilt that has only piled up over the years, the sense of decision-making can get clouded. The fallout between Arnav and his father feels like there were expectations that were not met. A weird guess, but I think Part #4 of The Memory Lane might be from Arnav's father's


I agree with the last line. I don’t know who the 4th chapter is supposed to be but I bet it will again be a twist we didn’t see coming


In my earlier comments, I mentioned Arnav's behaviour towards Khushi (Oct-Nov-Dec 2015) was just crass. Now, I see where that crass behaviour was coming from. The guy has been depressed with the things that have happened in the past, happened over the last 1 year and especially the stuff that happened just 3 months before his 10th anniversary. A few people who are in depression do not really like sharing their thoughts with someone close. They would find it difficult thinking that they'd be judged. He did think of seeking professional help but that just didn't happen. I do feel that such people who take decisions under the influence of guilt, just end up hurting their loved ones without the intention of doing that. It's the same I see with Arnav. Sometimes all one needs is just for someone to listen to their side of the story without being judged. No wonder, Arnav just let it all out to Aakash. I'm no psychologist, but I've seen enough around me to say the above things. Depression is not something anyone faces in the same fashion. It differs from individual to individual. This also means that the people around depressed individuals will also be going through a lot of difficult situations involving them.


Having mentioned that, I do not say that Arnav was never wrong in the way he treated Khushi. Although it was all done with good intent, it wasn't the right thing to do. His decision-making was flawed no doubt. He let his guilt take over and made assumptions about non-existential things. He wanted to tell the truth to Khushi but he was a little too late.


Same here sister! I still want Arnav to explain to her a year of stonewalling when she kept trying to reach him 💔 and well Lavanya pregnancy scare is going to break her completely


Khushi on the other hand is a pure soul. She didn't deserve what happened to her. I still say that my heart just breaks for her. Her agony has still not ended. The few more revelations left, are sure to pull her down a little bit more. If Arnav is flawed, so is Khushi but not to the extent of flawed that Arnav is. She let her insecurities win when she didn't confront Arnav when she received those photos. I understand that the last few months/year before their divorce, he hasn't really given her that confidence to trust him. But when he gets her back to the Penthouse from Umanagar, and starts of the confrontation, she accused him of the assumptions she made when she saw the photographs. But there's a difference between the way the two have made assumptions on the situations. Khushi is tricked into making the assumptions based on 'evidence' that she received, while Arnav makes his assumptions about Khushi not being happy with him based on his guilt. But both did make assumptions (Sangat ka asar). Both of them didn't talk it out. I feel like none of this would have happened if they just talked initially. But then, we wouldn't have this story too, if they did what we think they should have done in the given circumstances. :)


Arnav really needs professional help. He is kinda suicidal. There have been two instances where he just wants to end it all so that he can't feel the guilt anymore. He assumes it'll be easier that way. And here too, his guilt clouds his better judgement. Doesn't think of the consequences and how it would affect the people who love him. Along with himself, he has dragged Khushi too into the mess, who will also need her own healing now.



Coming to BML. The women are the worst of the kind. The lengths that people go through because of their obsession. I kind of sense that Arnav was drugged. He does recount a college party incident where he mixed his drinks and ended up being wasted, after which he clearly didn't mix his drinks in the future. He also says that the Server must have mixed the drinks. I'm unsure but I didn't read that Arnav was requesting for a different kind of drink after gulping down the previous. He was just asking for a refill, which means he wasn't wanting his drinks to be mixed. Giving the amount of booze that he has been consuming, I'm pretty sure he knew his capacity to handle the drinks. Also, he seemed fine before he consumed the last drink that he had for the night which was served by someone who BL had requested to replace the glasses. The woman who could fake a pregnancy, cry about it and guilt-trip the man, could also pretend to be drunk. I mean she's an actress. Ofcourse, she knew Arnav was coming to her party something that he had not done before. Why would she get drunk to not be in her senses when she knew she had a plan in place to have what she desired years ago? When BL came to sit next to Arnav at the party, she adjusted her dress. I don't think in a drunken state of mind somebody would think of such little things to do (Am I reading too much into this?). She doesn't have a drink too when with Arnav. Supposedly, was high enough to 'pass out' on Arnav. All this was also being observed by Manali who only came to them when Arnav asked her to help with BL. Someone who couldn't handle her own self a few minutes ago, now rescues a full-ass grown man and pulls him to safety. Arnav does say that she slurred. But the man's mind was foggy enough, whatever was being said whether slurred speech or not, would still sound slurred. And then she came onto him. He said NO multiple times. He is clearly taken advantage of!

I would still wait to read BL's memory lane. There'll be quite a lot more revealed there. I keep telling myself not to make assumptions, because Arpita just weaves her magic and I get proved wrong. So will wait for you to tell us more on BML.


The subconscious mind is quite powerful. I do feel deep down Arnav knows that he has been violated. He does cry outside his old building feeling scared of the people and the world around him. His gut feeling is probably coming to fore here but then again, there's his guilt that overpowers and he ends up blaming himself.


This is my theory too and Arpita di confirmed. Not sure he knows about violation but he had just suffered a personal attack of this kind in his life and he is bound to be rattled. But it’s true that he was absolutely scared and the trigger word for me was that he felt UNSAFE. that just broke my heart 💔😭


I do feel like I've missed out on a few things that I wanted to mention here. Will post when I remember them.


Thanks for this great chapter Arpita.

P.S.: I hope you are doing much much better now!

🤗

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: lechuarshi

There was one thread full of discussion about ASR'S bum☺️. Damn because there was some scene in ipk that showed ASR in tight trouser watering his plants. That's how crazy was Fandom back then. Then Arnav ji 's inner voice when Khushi pushing the vehicle praying to devi maiyya during the Nainital trip. Lol that was hilarious because arnav ji was particularly looking at Khushi' s ahem in an amused way. 🤣


WTF LMAO 😂😂😂😂


There’s a deeper gutter than the one l live in??? 🤯

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Congratulations for thread 3.Hoping you will be updating on Sunday as usual.

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Originally posted by: Learrntowrite


WTF LMAO 😂😂😂😂


There’s a deeper gutter than the one l live in??? 🤯


I know right..i am googling the secrets of Vasti kovac. lots of stories which can add to our imaginations🤣

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I love the Nainital track...the initial episodes were so hilarious.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Still boxers that refused to be violated by BL and kept it on 😂

Who came up with MaLa d..? Puja ? No way 😅

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Can't believe you have so less belief in my creativity.

You broke my heart.😒

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashviniv


I know right..i am googling the secrets of Vasti kovac. lots of stories which can add to our imaginations🤣

I am reading the first one 'murder'.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashviniv


But I am happy I didn't watch the show at that time. ASR was pretty toxic but his growth to Arnavji was awesome.


I remember watching an interview. This is very interesting.


they said star plus immediately intervened after two scenes. One was where ASR tore Khushi’s pearl string and another one was probably where he lets her fall of the first floor. Hero is always supposed to pull back at the last moment. But ASR didn’t and star plus executives were horrified at these instances apparently.


But the creators told them that they don’t have a grey character as a hero, they have a NEGATIVE character as a hero and his character arc is the whole point of the show. They had a much darker and much more toxic ASR in mind but had to give in to a family friendly channel’s demands.


God they were ready to make him a bigger villain than he already was. I kind of want to know just how deep in the mud original storyline ASR was.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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I had read what you reiterated that Arnav was pegged to be much darker. I had even read that the forced marriage was going to be a live in but Star Plus nixed that.

I seem to remember somewhere Arpita posted that the next two memories will be Lavenya’s and Akash’s stories. Not sure and too much to wade through to find it but I believe it was in Thread 1.

If Lavenya’s memory is tapped then we hopefully will have answers to what happened at the farmhouse.

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