Jalalluddin Mohammad to Akbar to ABBA HUZOOR. FinalDT Note Pg 73 - Page 34

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Posted: 9 years ago
And Justice System when it comes to Kings is all the more stringent by a self-imposed rule. There are a good number of examples from our History we can quote - Chola Kings were known for impeccable justice system, even if it means hurting their own sons. Chatrapathi Sivaji had set an example with his son, I can recall. Anyway, this(AK-SA episode) is 100% NR with IQ level even lower than Benazir track so no need to break our heads for it.😊😊

But I am getting a feeling that Akbar must have had a lot of expectations from Salim , may be Murad and Daniyal as well. This weighing down of high and lofty expectations could have been one reason for Salim to have drifted away from AK. Waise, if we are unable to fulfill our close relation's expectations, we start withdrawing from them to protect ourselves and in a sense them also. This is my interpretation. Many great men have had problems in raising a good son. Salim's actions or inactions have had far reaching implications in Mughal clan for future generations. He is indeed another one to deep dive into from a historical interest perspective.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Good night all...main chali sone...😃
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Even if the hit child died, it would be treated as manslaughter, not murder.

If the kid who shot was under 16, he or she would be treated as a juvenile offender, under our Juvenile Justice Act, and sentenced to a maximum of 3 years in a remand home. His running away , effectively a hit and run case, and his lying cannot enhance this sentence, which is the maximum that can be imposed on a juvenile for any crime.

Here of course, the head of State is talking of a life sentence baamushakkat for Salim.

The courts cannot distinguish between the Head of State's son and the commoner. If nothing else, the TV publicity would make it impossible.

In the US, if a householder mistakes an intruder for a thief and shoots him, and the intruder dies, the householder will be acquitted under the self-defence clause. It happened 8 years ago when a man mistook a Japanese teenager approaching his house during Hallowe'en for a malefactor and shot him dead.He was acquitted.

Shyamala



Yes the child would have been sent to a Juvenile home in today's scenario, which would be for 3 years - and so would it have been for Salim as well - had kadir died do we really believe the old lady would have continued to keep the heir in her home ????

She would have herself asked the Emperor to pardon saying the prince has atoned for his mistake - and that would have ensured that no one could ever use the incident against him in future - just becoz the Emperor said all his life does not make it that Salim would actually remain in that hut all his life - even the old lady knows that this is the future Emperor - and even she did not want him to complete his sentence and was happy that the 'Current' Emperor put justice above all - but what about the Incumbent ?????
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Posted: 9 years ago
Slowly the last of the imperialism or majesty is totally taken off from the SA, Sorry JA 😉. Except for the huge pots that is lying in the Mahal, there is nothing that suggests regalness or royalty - And everyone touches the emperor and Emperor also touches most folks - Today Rahim touched Akbar's shoulder twice and he also did twice. This is absolutely not the protocol. No one can touch the emperor except Jodha Begum and D1 and D2. 🤣😆😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

If he had not,.

1) Anarkali would presumably have become the Malika-e-Hindustan. Not that it would have mattered much. Noorjehan did far more damage than a haseen nachnewaali laundi could have done.

2)The Mughal empire would have started disintegrating 60 years earlier than it did, and

3) there would not have been enough money to build the Taj Mahal.

Shyamala



Akbar wouldn't have been the legend he was...
No movie/serial would have been made on him, least of all his love
We wouldn't have been here and banging our heads over it.🤣


Adi
Very few sons have been ever able to match their legendary fathers. The pressure simply weighs them down.

Rajendra Chola was a delightful exception, but he too did have some differences with his dad.
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Posted: 9 years ago
I agree Sands - and that is the bane of being born to exceptional parents

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Posted: 9 years ago
It is all unmitigated tommyrot, Adiana, and I cannot understand why we are discussing it so seriously and at such length!

Why, under Islamic jurisprudence, Fatima Bi could herself have forgiven Salim right now, and thus negated the Shahenshah's sentence at one go, but that would never do, would it?

The only good thing about tonight's episode was that we were spared scenes with Nadira.

Shyamala

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Posted: 9 years ago
1st of all fatima bi is not going to live so long. Nd 2ndly she herself would be ashamed of keeping the future heir in her house for very long. Honestly if we want to find logic then evrything even salim not been able to hit a target is illogical. Kids entering the shahi bag was illogical jodha following jalal's orders was illogical. Many things r illogical but jalal punishing salim is absolutely right.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Aunty, adi, sandy, mandy, shreya, sri, greesh , amina and khushi

Hi to all

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Shreya you are right ... Punishment is not wrong...

Salim was really very irresponsible and coward in running from the spot

And aunty

U are right too

Bec aass paas of punishment are wrong

First of all show is just like a cartoon show

Koi bhi kisi waqt ata hae, kisi bhi time jata hae

In Mughal empire there is no pakki abadi... Every one lives in only hut... Never see any one living in proper house out side agra palace...
Whether jonja visiting town on his birthday , or tasneem house, or now this basti

The tabalchi works with tansen must be the heights earned tabalchi in whole sultanat ...but where he lives ...in kcha house of one room

The boy who has nothing in his house.. Actualy who has no house at all just a tooti hui hut , no food, no cloths, no blanket nothing at all... Is free to enter shahi baagh ...

Its is ridiculous than a cartoon movie

Sharif peeting khaiber in jail and jodha begum listening his screeming in her room ... And for reached there for help in no time like jail is next to her room

Any one can enter any time

Ko qaida koi kanoon

Is sae acha tau rukayya ki hi maan lete ...she fired cactus pita ji...

No body told them to teach their daughter some manners and antiquates...

What birbal doing in agra ...atleast yah salim qadir wala masla hi ache sae solve kar deta ...



Rukayya coming and going in the hut at night no body watching...now in today epi time moved - on pata nhi how much ... Rukaya came for only one night kia ...? Bec now shahnsha himslef doing duty outside hut

Shahansha arranged security but what if ...salim got seriously injured... And what avout his tarbiyat as good human on emptional front



There should be atleast proper arrangement tht salim will think tht he is doing all things by his own but some one every time ...some stranger planted by jalal comes to help him comes to teach him ways

There should be arrangements tht salim should not go near mandir to ask food and cloths like beggars to his mom... Its like just through him out and watching tamasha of his misery in the name of security

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They can show rahim took princes in jungle for target practice and qadir hit there ...but kon sochta hae itna

Kisi ko drama chahiye , kisi ko romance kisi ko abba hazoor kisi ko fiery rajput princess , kisi ko struggle of MUz and her achievements as army general, sultanat runner, most powerful person silk spice trad, ship business, some want punishment of rukayya aome want abba hazoor in BT

History tay choro logic ki khatiya kari ho gae hae



1 jawan admi when takes drug for first time cant stand straight for a day atleast ... Here 9 yrs old salim has no effect of afim in the morning

Every one want punishment but is there any logic ... No body is saying they should nt do this to rukayya ... Is baat ki fikr hae k MUz ki rahimi ship and spice and silk trades ka kia hua... Us k farman dikhao bahi...Rukayya should rotten in kala andha wll for this crime... She should rotten in benazir well but she will get khuram to raise... Wah wah...


I dont know on which basis they make shows ... Which type of people and for what reason people watch shows...
For eg ... On SNS ... Whole family including her husband abundant gopi bec her 4 yr daughter died and they put blame on Her and her carelessness ... 8 whole years they didnt know nor care where Gobi was ... Zinda hae mar gae , ... Now look at trp of show... People really dont care ... I know this show is not abt epic love story but do we really think the people watching shows really care abt what ekta said in first JA press conference... How they advertised the show in the begining ... They only care for what ... ? Drama... But kia only drama... With same old recepie...Mazloom heroin, confuse hero, one azab kism ki vamp who does tandave on whole family and no body can stop her actually mostly clueless...
.." But kuch logic tau ho... Kuch realty...


jA mae tau drama bhi kuch khas nhi aaj kal... Ham log HAH ko dekh kr khush ho lete hae... Dil kay behlane ko galib yah khayal acha hae But ship is sinking we all know... They dont have any thing left in jo ja story... Serial is still making money ...so now salim anar kali but anar kali has nothing like kali nor like anar in her ... Anar kali image is always like very cultured mannerd court dancer with all naaz o ada and court manners ...but here she looks like daughter of shahnsha and mUZ and salim the son of darban infront of her...

For those who are craving for love And love story ... Jalal only talks to jodha ...its look like he has nothing to do in life other than salim and Jodha. before leap, ...all he cared only jodha and after this leap all he cares is jodha and their son salim ... And beside tht they can not show any thing more intimate, more emotional btw these two...their scenes are so irritating ... Jinta bhi emotional scene ho... Touch me not is so visible ...

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Edited by smile.sara - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
Sara - since Atifa track the entire planning has been to move from JA to SA - no one believed it - the TOI news on SA had come in August itself and I am very sure that the grown up Salim and other kids most probably were finalized last month itself but will be shown by next week only - the story moved away from JA long back - infact I now realise when but cant say it on forum - and what you are getting is the base for the SA story and as soon as the base is set the big leap will be on
Edited by adiana12 - 9 years ago
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