Jalalluddin Mohammad to Akbar to ABBA HUZOOR. FinalDT Note Pg 73 - Page 31

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Posted: 9 years ago
Good, my poppet. I cannot possibly wade thru your marathon threads, whence my failure to notice this post!!

You would be in elite company, Khushi, even when you are all by yourself!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---


Shyamala Aunty...I did notice it ...n I did comment on it...😆...here is the original comment. ...😃

That makes 2 of us...im in elite company...yayyy...😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
Behnon, kal ke epi ka full update koi dena pls - in one single post - kal mujhe ek phamily wedding pe jaana hai 😡 phamily hai so cant even get out of it - Unfortunately I wont be able to take the repeat either - I hate weekday events that are boring 🥱 - wish it was a musical event or a play
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: munnirony

Sandhya, I feel differently about it nd I still stand by it. But obviously if I say anything I will be put down bcoz im not a gud writer. Anyways the punishment is mainly about leaving tht guy injured nd not about hitting. If salim would have tried to help the boy he wouldn't have got tht punishment. Main point is to teach the lesson of life tht just like ur important for ur family sumone else is also important for his family. As per dialogues goes it never matches the reality. I dont want to argue bcoz obviously this is the case in this forum either jodha or ruku gets all the sympathy. Jalal is wrong evrytime. If jodha does sumthing she is kind hearted if ruku does sumthing its bcoz of jalal but noone is there to understand him. But this punishment for me is the most apt nd fair punishment bcoz it has many reasons behind it.



Shreya, I understand well that as wali ahad it was wrong of Salim to run away from a situation without guilt and then lie about it in front of all. I don't mind his punishment too, but 'zindagi bhar' if Qadir doesn't recover was a little too much. There could have been a time limit for the punishment or They could have cut out that dialogue atleast.

Don't worry. Ruks doesn't have a single honest sympathiser now post leap. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

It only goes to show, Sandhya my dear, as demonstrated by the conversation between Nadira and her remarkably logical and rational mother, that Zillbahar has more commonsense and intelligence than the Shahenshah-e-Hind.

She stresses the point you have made here - and I had made before - about Salim not having been at fault at all in shooting Qadir - for if a soldier had shot the boy, he would have defended himself vigorously and been let off. Whereas, the Shahenshah states in the Diwan-e-Aam Jaan boohjkar kiya ho ya anjaane mein, Sheiku Baba, aap gunehgaar hain, betraying not only a lack of understanding of the basic facts of the case, but also of the distinction between gunaah and galti.

Equally important, Zillbahar picks up the other point I have made repeatedly - that Qadir was a thief, as he was stealing mangoes from the shahi bagh. What she did not state, for obvious reasons, was that if Qadir was a chor, her daughter was the assistant chorni!

So why did our Zill-e-Elahi not round off his Solomonic exercise in Mughaliya insaaf by socking Nadira too with some punishment, and keeping Qadir's in abeyance till he recovers?

But who cares about such trifles? Now that his chaheti begum has given him a medal as big as a soup plate for his wisdom in imposing this sentence on his son and ensuring his moral upliftment, he must be in seventh heaven, especially since she also carefully leaned over twice so as to get her head on his shoulder!

As for me, I grit my teeth tonight when Jodha was boosting Jalal's morale with gushing encomiums to his doorandeshi. What I am waiting for is for the couple to be confronted with the blowback from all this, with Salim's by now bahut bada dil having expanded sufficiently to not only weep for the sufferings of the poor,but also to accommodate the cactuskali in total defiance of his abbujaan and perhaps also his ammijaan. I shall then have the last laugh, and it will be long and loud!

Shyamala/Aunty







since she also carefully leaned over twice so as to get her head on hisshoulder! 🤣
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Good, my poppet. I cannot possibly wade thru your marathon threads, whence my failure to notice this post!!

You would be in elite company, Khushi, even when you are all by yourself!

Shyamala Aunty


😃 😃 😃...I dont think this grin is gonna wipe off for the next few days, Shyamala Aunty...🤗...thank you so much for your kind words...😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
Point is not about hitting point is leaving sumone dying. If salim had not left tht boy injured he wouldn't have got the punishment. Nd nadira's mom clearly missed this point so I see no intelligence here rather than a motherly emotion maybe. When a person cares for a dying pigeon how can he leave sumone dying? Nd yes thts a gunah. But obviously deeper thinking will never be made. Anyways apart from the whole life part nothing was wrong from jalal's part. This is one lesson which noone can teach but u have to understand urself.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A



Shreya, I understand well that as wali ahad it was wrong of Salim to run away from a situation without guilt and then lie about it in front of all. I don't mind his punishment too, but 'zindagi bhar' if Qadir doesn't recover was a little too much. There could have been a time limit for the punishment or They could have cut out that dialogue atleast.

Don't worry. Ruks doesn't have a single honest sympathiser now post leap. 😆


Sandhya & Shyamala Aunty. ...These "zindagi bhar" type of dialogues are only for the masses...who appreciate exaggerated versions of everything...hence, my suggestion, that extra 25% or so, please ignore as dakshina to TRP Baba...n then watch...

No point analysing such pathetic screenplays with such intelligence & logic...only our dentists will laugh their way to the bank 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

It only goes to show, Sandhya my dear, as demonstrated by the conversation between Nadira and her remarkably logical and rational mother, that Zillbahar has more commonsense and intelligence than the Shahenshah-e-Hind.

She stresses the point you have made here - and I had made before - about Salim not having been at fault at all in shooting Qadir - for if a soldier had shot the boy, he would have defended himself vigorously and been let off. Whereas, the Shahenshah states in the Diwan-e-Aam Jaan boohjkar kiya ho ya anjaane mein, Sheiku Baba, aap gunehgaar hain, betraying not only a lack of understanding of the basic facts of the case, but also of the distinction between gunaah and galti.

Equally important, Zillbahar picks up the other point I have made repeatedly - that Qadir was a thief, as he was stealing mangoes from the shahi bagh. What she did not state, for obvious reasons, was that if Qadir was a chor, her daughter was the assistant chorni!

So why did our Zill-e-Elahi not round off his Solomonic exercise in Mughaliya insaaf by socking Nadira too with some punishment, and keeping Qadir's in abeyance till he recovers?

But who cares about such trifles? Now that his chaheti begum has given him a medal as big as a soup plate for his wisdom in imposing this sentence on his son and ensuring his moral upliftment, he must be in seventh heaven, especially since she also carefully leaned over twice so as to get her head on his shoulder!

As for me, I grit my teeth tonight when Jodha was boosting Jalal's morale with gushing encomiums to his doorandeshi. What I am waiting for is for the couple to be confronted with the blowback from all this, with Salim's by now bahut bada dil having expanded sufficiently to not only weep for the sufferings of the poor,but also to accommodate the cactuskali in total defiance of his abbujaan and perhaps also his ammijaan. I shall then have the last laugh, and it will be long and loud!

Shyamala/Aunty






The Jaan boohjkar kiya ho ya anjaane mein, Sheiku Baba, aap gunehgaar hain, was wrong as was the zindagi bhar dialogue to HB.

But Salim was wrong and irresponsible to leave the boy there and run away and lie when asked in public.

I can accept the punishment but not the unlimited time factor.


So why did our Zill-e-Elahi not round off his Solomonic exercise in Mughaliya insaaf by socking Nadira too with some punishment, and keeping Qadir's in abeyance till he recovers?
👏

I had expected this too. The cutting off of the two dialogues and punishing Cactus and Qadir (post recovery) would have completed the case beautifully.

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: munnirony

Point is not about hitting point is leaving sumone dying. If salim had not left tht boy injured he wouldn't have got the punishment. Nd nadira's mom clearly missed this point so I see no intelligence here rather than a motherly emotion maybe. When a person cares for a dying pigeon how can he leave sumone dying? Nd yes thts a gunah. But obviously deeper thinking will never be made. Anyways apart from the whole life part nothing was wrong from jalal's part. This is one lesson which noone can teach but u have to understand urself.


I totally agree...The punishment was ONLY for leaving Qadir to die...
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A



The Jaan boohjkar kiya ho ya anjaane mein, Sheiku Baba, aap gunehgaar hain, was wrong as was the zindagi bhar dialogue to HB.

But Salim was wrong and irresponsible to leave the boy there and run away and lie when asked in public.

I can accept the punishment but not the unlimited time factor.


So why did our Zill-e-Elahi not round off his Solomonic exercise in Mughaliya insaaf by socking Nadira too with some punishment, and keeping Qadir's in abeyance till he recovers?
👏

I had expected this too. The cutting off of the two dialogues and punishing Cactus and Qadir (post recovery) would have completed the case beautifully.



Ahhh... but that goes against the grain of EK's NRs Sands 🤣
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