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Posted: 13 years ago
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Guys
Iam running late today so might make the take a little late!! Apologies! Feel free to use the space to discuss your views on the episode. Will join asap!
Siri, Rehena, Afu and PKBAAA will reply on your comments when Iam back. Thanks for the fantastic replies.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: rehana11




The point still remains- its vikram not neha who's asked for a divorce and despite all his great qualities - by the way if he insists on divorce, then none of the things u've mentioned helps. For me what has happened does not hold neha guilty of anything - its one of those misfortunes life sometimes throws on us - and marriages and relationships are tested when this happens.
Its all fine to be supportive, but man you've been asking for a divorce for this ??? the least u can do then is be supportive ! ...what kind of a moralistic puritanical statement is this - neha is seen several times trying to persuade him otherwise , but he's been firm where divorce was concerned - so what is the understanding about??? looking after the kids for a few days on her loosing nerve one day when she's looked after them for seventeen years???letting her have the house etc as settlement? if u're divorcing your wife for such reasons, this is the least expected out of you ! especially if she's been a housewife with nothing of her own who's being divorced for something like this !...infact her behaviour becomes much more excusable and human now ! obviously after long negotiations, if she lost nerve at one moment , it only shows how responsible and guilty she feels when she shouldnt actually! And vik's understanding also becomes more human for when u're not seen as the guilty party , its much more easier for you to take charge!!...but there is definately no denying that it is he who needs to come to terms with it however difficult and however hurt he might feel !! divorce is ridiculous ! on what grounds??? if neha hadnt agreed, even the court would not allow it for such reasons!...

obviously if a man like vikram cannot come to terms with this, she will be moved to comment on it - its not a crime !!! he has been unable to forget ! she could have either said it was a personal failing on his part or a general trait - she chose the latter instead of blaming him personally!!...and if we have to wait and see what was the nature of negotiation ( though nothing that they've shown till now with vik's constant determination to go ahead with the divorce despite her pleadings etc negates the fact that she was justified in commenting) then why judge her immediately for making this statement ? why get so pissed with her so quickly for one line against vikram in an entire discussion where she was nothing but understanding and appreciative of him otherwise ??? its intolerance if just because one has preference for vik's character , one cannot even bear that ! ...vikram can also be shown as human in asking for a divorce , but that has to be shown as a human failing on his part, it does not justify that stand at all!!!!!...and at a general level, i'm sorry, but the statement holds true even today for a vast section of indian men who still cannot take such things so the comment in itself was not misplaced at all - thats the way most men would treat this issue - so whats there to get pissed ? if u say vik's not like that nor is every man, i would agree , but vik's divorce demand is not what agrees with this over here .
At the very least - In trying to build suspense , CVs have really muddled it all up ! if they hadnt shown vik constantly pushing for it in previous episodes i would have agreed the statement, however true generally , was not justified here !

As to how neha would have reacted - i dont know but i sure would have judged her too if she'd pushed for a divorce. I just cannot understand how a divorce agreement is justified for something like this than vikram alongwith neha coming to terms with it as a twist of destiny !!



Agree with you about Neha's situation. But I don't say "I understand" becoz we don't know exactly what she had been going thru. Definitely it's not an easy thing to admit...and I'm proud to see her accept her immaturity and how she found her true love in Vikram etc. The point I'm trying to make here is that Acceptance/Forgetting is not gender based. It depends upon the personality and thinking. I'm not supporting Vikram here. While Neha's past mistake is one part of the story, Truth revelation & attempts to save the marriage are other parts of it. No spouse would be comfortable knowing from a third person that his/her better-half has a teenage kid. We still don't know how the truth got unfolded, what the situations were, what attempts did Neha make to save her marriage, what accusations Vikram had made against Neha (I wouldn't tolerate this one either, if Vikram does it). So it's too early to say we know all the story of Vik-Neha.

I'm glad that Vikram didn't let me down today. However upset he was with Rehan today, he still took care of him and looks like he's planning to take him home or may be accomodate him somewhere. We have all been watching it since Season 1 and we kind of predict most of the characters how they could have reacted in certain situations.

Let's assume that Rehan is Vikram's son. I'm sure all our sympathy would've been with Neha being a woman & victim and Vikram being the man, he would've faced the wrath of many. Let's be fair with both Vikram and Neha. I'm not finding fault with Neha in this, as she herself doesn't know abt her son being alive and she did try to reveal it to Vikram before they got married. Neither can I find fault with Vikram too. Why should Vikram be dealing with Rehan? What obligation does Vikram have for Rehan? It's actually Neha who should be handling Rehan. She was naive and made a mistake. But now she's a woman and matured. She needs to pull her socks up and take care of this whole issue. She should be the person to let the truth out to kids. Neha has many times told Vikram..."tumhari galti hai..yeh sab tumhari wajah se hi ho rahai hai...tho tumhi bachon ko batao" etc etc. How is it Vikram's mistake yaar? Why did she even bring the situation till divorce yaar? Actually CVs made Neha & Vikram mouth some stupid dialogues since the start of season 2, that we still are contemplating. I wish They could've figuerd out the logic way before writing the dialogues.

I feel bad for Rehan too. All this while he has been living the life of an orphan with no surname. His parents disowning him should have been tough on this guy and moreover his mom doesn't know he's alive. I'm kind of confused how Neha talks with this guy. After all he's her son and she shoos him away like a total stranger. I really felt sorry for him yesterday and today.
Edited by cooldreams - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: cooldreams



Agree with you about Neha's situation. But I don't say "I understand" becoz we don't know exactly what she had been going thru. Definitely it's not an easy thing to admit...and I'm proud to see her accept her immaturity and how she found her true love in Vikram etc. The point I'm trying to make here is that Acceptance/Forgetting is not gender based. It depends upon the personality and thinking. I'm not supporting Vikram here. While Neha's past mistake is one part of the story, Truth revelation & attempts to save the marriage are other parts of it. No spouse would be comfortable knowing from a third person that his/her better-half has a teenage kid. We still don't know how the truth got unfolded, what the situations were, what attempts did Neha make to save her marriage, what accusations Vikram had made against Neha (I wouldn't tolerate this one either, if Vikram does it). So it's too early to say we know all the story of Vik-Neha.

I'm glad that Vikram didn't let me down today. However upset he was with Rehan today, he still took care of him and looks like he's planning to take him home or may be accomodate him somewhere. We have all been watching it since Season 1 and we kind of predict most of the characters how they could have reacted in certain situations.

Let's assume that Rehan is Vikram's son. I'm sure all our sympathy would've been with Neha being a woman & victim and Vikram being the man, he would've faced the wrath of many. Let's be fair with both Vikram and Neha. I'm not finding fault with Neha in this, as she herself doesn't know abt her son being alive and she did try to reveal it to Vikram before they got married. Neither can I find fault with Vikram too. Why should Vikram be dealing with Rehan? What obligation does Vikram have for Rehan? It's actually Neha who should be handling Rehan. She was naive and made a mistake. But now she's a woman and matured. She needs to pull her socks up and take care of this whole issue. She should be the person to let the truth out to kids. Neha has many times told Vikram..."tumhari galti hai..yeh sab tumhari wajah se hi ho rahai hai...tho tumhi bachon ko batao" etc etc. How is it Vikram's mistake yaar? Why did she even bring the situation till divorce yaar? Actually CVs made Neha & Vikram mouth some stupid dialogues since the start of season 2, that we still are contemplating. I wish They could've figuerd out the logic way before writing the dialogues.

I feel bad for Rehan too. All this while he has been living the life of an orphan with no surname. His parents disowning him should have been tough on this guy and moreover his mom doesn't know he's alive. I'm kind of confused how Neha talks with this guy. After all he's her son and she shoos him away like a total stranger. I really felt sorry for him yesterday and today.




i really think CV's in their attempt to keep holding the suspense and not knowing their minds till they finally took the plunge ,have messed up and mixed up the signals here - they have to now retrieve vik's sterling character over the divorce issue but in a way that doesnt demonise neha in any way - they could show it as a slow coming to terms with this reality of a man who's human and deeply in love dealing with a sense of sudden hurt , even though his wife wasnt really responsible...the perfect couple has to come thru this crisis with flying colors 😊


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Rehana..
The fact is Neha has a kid and howmuchever its not her fault about a kid whom she thought was dead is actually alive, isn't it true tht she was involved and had the child by her own will and wish.
So is the thing about Vikram's divorce. It hasn't happened. YET. So maybe we are going to see more reasons on why did that happen. For me the divorce was the only reason the Cvs had to hold a suspense. Not sure how much of tarnishing of Vikram's character it did.
But I would be terribly upset with vikram if he went through it without giving her a chance.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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What a fab take! Should find place in "The best of angie"! 😃👏
Im so disappointed with priya. The CVs are butchering her character. Where is that thoughful priya? I somehow feel both neha and priya are behaving very childish. Ive always adorned and loved vikram's character. Great husband, father and friend.
The characters that are sidelined are krishnuji and sudhir. I expected them to play a greater role in getting their kids to patch up and work out a solution...at least they should try and not sit and mourn and wait for that opportune moment. About neha..oh yes..what space is she talking about? She is running away from fear and fact..dumping all her responsibilities on poor hubby.

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