7/2 Promo: Will real ASR/ Arnav stand up please? - Page 10

Originally posted by: JWMRK

DITTO and Big 5 to what you said👏👏

Elysia and Saatschi,

Much as I love the 'love story', I am a sucker for the ASR-Anjali and then the ASR-Akash tracks. Its a beautiful relation, and makes you cherish your siblings.

If one wants really gets engrossed in a fiction, then it is natural to imagine those characters or put yourself in their shoes. Every time I think of the promo, I think what would be the first thought that come to my mind when I see Shyam and Khushi...Khushi;s betrayal ...NO...the answer is Anjali and what a horrible man she is married to

You cannot forget a relation you have since your birth, the only relation who has sustained the human in you, for a dramatic, actioned based love-hate track reaching a so called high point of hate.

ASR-Arnav will first think of Anjali, not his love affair, and that makes me believe and hope that he retracts, even though he is furious, assesses the situation and then acts decisively

On a separate note, what Khushi did wrong, if you like, was not trust ASR and then Nani

We can debate till the cows come home on how she never was close to ASR and has only seen his bad side...Bull😆...This is the same man who time and again has come to her aid...and the reason why she looks up to him, comic tracks notwithstanding

She should have at least trusted Nani, and her years of experience and maturity to deal with it.

As for Gupta's, what did they think, that Shyam will let Payal live in peace, leave alone Khushi😲. A man who masquerades about as a bachelor for extended periods of time, cannot be trusted for a nanosecond.

Worst was when Buaji caught him leering at Khushi, even then they decided to keep quiet?

But its Payal I am most amazed with. What love and marriage she is wanting to have with Akash. One that is on a bed of lies...and most importantly on the humiliation and victimisation of her own sister

Strange folks.🥱

Originally posted by: JWMRK

She took the choice out of the Raizada parivar's hand. Would she have felt the same if she was Nani and Arnav. NO

But then my dear, that is the hallmark of a true SP heroine, the devi who decides the fates of all characters around her😆😆😆

Originally posted by: pumpkin4

Actually, it's not against Arnav's character to misunderstand.

By character, he is impulsive, jumping to conclusions and getting angry easily. We also know that by nature, he doesn't trust people easily. Right now he's in love with Khushi, but if Shyam plays his cards correctly, Arnav will believe Shyam, not Khushi. Khushi was an outsider and up until recently he didn't buy her love and the world is beautiful POV.

The fact that he has just finally opened his heart to Khushi is exactly the reason why it is so easy and natural for him to mistrust her- this concept of LOVE is new territory to him, and quite frankly, a lil scary. Faced with Shyam's truth and his sister's happiness in jeopardy, he'l automatically put those walls up again to protect himself and his family.

i agree with pumpkin on this one.
Runnning a successful is totally different from being in love. Does not equate at all. I have made another post. Will try to put excerpts of it in here: https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/2780955/love-trust-communication-or-ego-misundersatnding
" Arnav and Khushi have just realised there love for each other. Especially ASR ..on the verge of realisation and about to express his most intimate feelings - a person who does not even believe in love.
We all can not even imagine the shock, the hurt he will feel when he will see Khushi saying those words to Snake. "Could I have loved a person who is really a gold-digger? No, I can't. Am I that foolish. No. Who do I trust my ears or my instincts?"
The thing is when we are betrayed, our ego takes the biggest hit. Me ASR, a successful person, how could I have fallen for the wrong person. Then the sane mind who would have told him "No, you are wrong. What your eyes saw and what your ears heard was not right. There was something amiss. Khushi the innocent girl who is always helping everyone, who is making sure no one is sad. Khushi in whose eyes I only see love- pure love; no aberration." Ego will take over and will not let him listen to that sane voice of his heart.
If only he would have let the voice of his heart win over his ego. If only he would have gone and sat down with the Khushi and told her" No more hiding the truth, tell me the whole story" Only if...Only if..."
So we have to wait and see if their love is deep and mature to overcome this mis-understanding through trust and communication.

Originally posted by: Elysia

You wrote back, yeah!!👍🏼

PINK: I have to admit here that even though I love Arnav-Khushi's love story (it is a unique and romantic love story, after all), then that wasn't what initially drew me in to watch the show. It was Arnav's character. It was the layers portrayed by Barun, his mysterious past, his haunted eyes that could seem both impossibly cruel and, at the same time, unbearably vulnerable. He made me feel like running away from him and simultaneously pull him into my arms for a comforting hug. That drew me in and hooked me to the show.

For me the initial pull was a Sanaya's comic scene that I saw (I love her😳), and towards the end of the episode Arnav appeared...that did me in😆

But jokes apart, I dont know if I love ASR, but I am fascinated by him. And you are bang on when you say its those haunting eyes, even when the face is calm or set in stones, the eyes are burning, at times with rage, or at times in desperate search of something, maybe a closure.

I am fascinated that a guy who is an absolute softy around his siblings, turns into a walled personality outside. Its like a candle flame burning, it fascinates you, you want to touch it as it gives a guise of a soft light, but when you get close it hurts after all.

I always hope the makers show us Arnav's backstory and how he rose to the status of ASR.

I have watched BHPH initially, but was not amused by anything, in fact I used to see Gulaal and felt short-changed when it was about to shut and the IPPKND started. But Barun Sobti changed my definition of cliched television acting. His ASR is perfectly pitched. God!! so many of my colleagues are like him. Curt, suave, stylish.

And it would be a disaster if he is made to mouth the silly idiotic angry Devdas lines

Naturally, everything that involves him would draw me in too. But - as you said - the relationship between him and Anjali is just breathtakingly beautiful. I'm a real huge sucker for complex relationships and Arnav-Anjali take the brother-sister thing to a whole other level. Often during their scenes, I feel my nerves jitter because I keep thinking what would happen if anything ever hurt Anjali. Arnav loses control of his incredibly controlled exterior whenever Anjali is involved. He can't even bear the mere thought of her leaving him. I'm thinking that the reason Anjali still hasn't left her brother's home to live separately with Shyam has everything to do with the fact that neither of them can cut the umbilical cord between them. They're closer than twins. Arnav needs her beyond reason.

They both need a closure, I dont really know what, but can presume its to do with their mother. I find them leaning on each other, as a parent and child. Each taking over when the other needs comfort.

Frankly, I hope Anjali is the relevation here, and that when she gets to know the truth, she shows the same gumption as her brother to fight back. She is the Achilles heel for Arnav.

I also agree on the Arnav-Akash relationship. I enjoy their small moments together. Something that really made me love Arnav more was his relationship to Akash. The way that he treated Akash with such quiet respect, attention, and softness. Maybe because Akash is a pleaser. The quiet, good boy who wants to please everyone and - to an extent - sacrifices his own wants for others. Arnav seems to understand that, appreciate it, respect it - and finally, most importantly, he stands up for Akash just when it really matters. Their relationship is so "silent communication and understanding" - which I absolutely love. Makes it deeper somehow. When Arnav communicates with Akash, his whole demeanor changes.

Gosh!! you read minds do you😃. The bold part is spot on.

Akash-Arnav is a great sibling story. I love how Arnav senses what Akash needs, like when they come back in the car after meeting Payal in the restaurant.

ASR realises and respects Akash simplicity and need to keep a sane loving front despite the atrocious behaviour of his mom. Akash respects Arnav, not because he is a tyrant, but because he knows that deep down ASR will do no wrong.

BLUE: Word. Anjali comes first. She always will. And this is what makes Arnav even more down-to-earth and real. He's not the stereotypical male hero with an undying love for the female heroine - the kind that would make him forget the bond that he shares with his sister (the woman - the one thing - that sustained the human in him when he transformed from an innocent boy to a cruel businessman). He loves Khushi, no doubt about it. And it's a love that runs deep. But his feet are still very much on the ground. He won't accept betrayal just because he loves her. Especially not the kind of betrayal that damaged his sister.

I toe that line. I may love a partner. But if my parent, or my sibling, who has been my only source of comfort and existence and who has supported me every single way, is endangered by my lover, it will take me a long time to forgive him or her.

We can put it any which way, but Khushi withheld a critical information. What if Shyam really had been successful in the previous attempts! Anjali would now be a gralanded photo in Raizada mansion. And no one of us, can put another humal life in danger. now the counter argument is Khushi would have not guess Shyam will go to such lenghths. But come on, is there any more proof of his slime ball tactics. He leers at her, maintained a dual life and had the balls to show Anjali as a demon. All of this Khushi knew.

i am all for female respect, but come on, you dont forget a close family tie, because someone makes you heart beat and pulse race.

the challenge for the makers here is to show that Arnav retains and fulfills his responsibility, but does not dis-respect Khushi in the bargain. For a unique sensitive story, there has to be a middle ground here.

GREEN: Gosh, this is the exact question that I kept asking my TV screen when she found out the truth about Shyam. "Why don't you tell Nani if you can't tell Arnav?" I mean, of all people, Nani would've been my logical choice in Khushi's shoes.

Nani would be my first choice if I was Khushi. She much loves Khushi and has a sane mind

I kind of understand that Arnav confuses her and that she feels very uncertain around him. Though if anyone has a right to know about Shyam - it's Anjali and Arnav. I do understand that Khushi feared her sister's future and all, but honestly - murder will out. The truth always manages to reveal itself at some point. It's only ever a matter of time. So really, Payal's marriage would become a living hell in the Raizada house (with some help from Mamiji) because she'd be blamed for not telling the truth about Shyam as much as Khushi, Buaji, and Garima.

DITTO!!

Unlike the Guptas, Payal can't just up and leave the Raizadas, because she actually has to live with Akash and his family for the rest of her life.

Originally posted by: Elysia

LOL 😆 Gosh, that's so true. She decides the fate of everyone - even though what she chooses to do is wrong and makes her flawed. I'll never understand SP heroines. But at least Khushi is one of the few SP heroines that I actually adore - despite her massive "hide Shyam's true face" blooper 🤢

Originally posted by: JWMRK

DITTO and Big 5 to what you said👏👏

Elysia and Saatschi,

Much as I love the 'love story', I am a sucker for the ASR-Anjali and then the ASR-Akash tracks. Its a beautiful relation, and makes you cherish your siblings.

If one wants really gets engrossed in a fiction, then it is natural to imagine those characters or put yourself in their shoes. Every time I think of the promo, I think what would be the first thought that come to my mind when I see Shyam and Khushi...Khushi;s betrayal ...NO...the answer is Anjali and what a horrible man she is married to

You cannot forget a relation you have since your birth, the only relation who has sustained the human in you, for a dramatic, actioned based love-hate track reaching a so called high point of hate.

ASR-Arnav will first think of Anjali, not his love affair, and that makes me believe and hope that he retracts, even though he is furious, assesses the situation and then acts decisively

On a separate note, what Khushi did wrong, if you like, was not trust ASR and then Nani

We can debate till the cows come home on how she never was close to ASR and has only seen his bad side...Bull😆...This is the same man who time and again has come to her aid...and the reason why she looks up to him, comic tracks notwithstanding

She should have at least trusted Nani, and her years of experience and maturity to deal with it.

As for Gupta's, what did they think, that Shyam will let Payal live in peace, leave alone Khushi😲. A man who masquerades about as a bachelor for extended periods of time, cannot be trusted for a nanosecond.

Worst was when Buaji caught him leering at Khushi, even then they decided to keep quiet?

But its Payal I am most amazed with. What love and marriage she is wanting to have with Akash. One that is on a bed of lies...and most importantly on the humiliation and victimisation of her own sister

Strange folks.🥱

@Elysia: In re: what you wrote above in blue, red and green: Honestly, your words are a mirror for my thoughts. It feels so unbelievable reading your thoughts and thinking "Oh! My ! Word! Can two people think SO similarly:-))) Loved reading your post.

Originally posted by: sunenahari

i agree with pumpkin on this one.
Runnning a successful is totally different from being in love. Does not equate at all. I have made another post. Will try to put excerpts of it in here: https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/2780955/love-trust-communication-or-ego-misundersatnding
" Arnav and Khushi have just realised there love for each other. Especially ASR ..on the verge of realisation and about to express his most intimate feelings - a person who does not even believe in love.
We all can not even imagine the shock, the hurt he will feel when he will see Khushi saying those words to Snake. "Could I have loved a person who is really a gold-digger? No, I can't. Am I that foolish. No. Who do I trust my ears or my instincts?"
The thing is when we are betrayed, our ego takes the biggest hit. Me ASR, a successful person, how could I have fallen for the wrong person. Then the sane mind who would have told him "No, you are wrong. What your eyes saw and what your ears heard was not right. There was something amiss. Khushi the innocent girl who is always helping everyone, who is making sure no one is sad. Khushi in whose eyes I only see love- pure love; no aberration." Ego will take over and will not let him listen to that sane voice of his heart.
If only he would have let the voice of his heart win over his ego. If only he would have gone and sat down with the Khushi and told her" No more hiding the truth, tell me the whole story" Only if...Only if..."
So we have to wait and see if their love is deep and mature to overcome this mis-understanding through trust and communication.

Will check out your post😊

Originally posted by: Saatschi

@JWMRK: Absolutely!!!! Garima was a loser anyway. All she was bothered was that Payalia gets married without any impediments this time and to the eligible Akash Raizada. I was shocked that a mother could withhold such information just to get her daughter smoothly married off. Why should Arnav not think that this is family that is out to get all they can, irrespective of the consequences.

Buaji: She was responsible for the Shyam engagement fiasco. She ought to have taken a stand and told Nani. She ought to have led the project "Publicly denounce snake" As you said, she caught the sleaze bag leering at Khushi and she does not even warn Khushi about it. Come on!!!!

Both Buaji and Garima see Anjali every day and still keep quiet about the reptile in her life.

Payal and Khushi know how many poojas and vrats Anjali performs for her husband and how dearly she loves them and still Payal hasn't thought of confiding in Akash even after he told her "I will never hide anything from you'. Khushi could have told Nani.

I mean, it is not a small thing that is being hidden. It is SO big that both families are going to be entwined in the consequences and the fallout will not be pretty. Arnav will certainly think that his prejudices about families like the Guptas are indeed correct.

The most beautiful aspect of this story is Arnav's relationship with Anjali. They have potrayed this beautifully, Arnav would instantly sacrifice everything on the altar of Anjali's happiness. His own feelings, his love for Khushi, all of this will be nothingness in front of his agony for his sister. All he will see is his sister's life breaking apart. All he will see is his sister;s life being plunged into darkness. All he will see is his sister being targeted (the pool incident, the scorpion, and now, I am assuming the failed brakes will collate in his mind) her very life being threatened by Shyam's perfidy and the Guptas' hand in concealing the monster. Why, Khushi herself will be horrified that she has had a part, albeit indirectly, in Anajli's life being put into danger. So, why wouldn't Arnav be shattered by it. After all, for Arnav, it is his sister who comes first.

When he will be suspended in disbelief about the person he has trusted for the past three years with his dearest and most beloved sister, surely his thought processes going insane about Khushi in the first moments of revelation are understandable. And when he begins to dig, he will be faced with the deception practised by the Guptas. he will not see Khushi's noble intentions, he will rage at why she did not tell him, why she did not tell anyone, including Nani.

When we react to situations, we often react to what we see and hear. When we trust people and see that trust evaporating completely, it is perhaps human to react first and think later.

In this case, Arnav will react out of anger and fear for Anjali. Anything he says or does has to be interpreted in line with his deep bond with his sister and his promise to himself to always keep her happy, even at the cost of his own happiness.

HII!!😃