Duniyapur (GREEN) - Khushhal Khan, Ramsha Khan, Sami Khan - Page 83

Originally posted by: Muskanika

The fact that Shahmir is so open and relatable and has done nothing wrong (since his 'moment' has not come yet). The first time he really went all the way to turn things around - it was for Ana, we were in sync with his emotions and we could see Ana melting as well (since her emotions were real). Her betrayal came as a shock to the audience as well bcs she had us convinced. The way her stature had been raised in my eyes when she released Nimra, the betrayal made us question everything, so much so that no one is sure about how much of it is real. And people are not as obsessed as us to sit and thinks about why Ana did it, when she planned it, how much of it was real. They should have given us an explanation honestly. She basically gave us trust issues. Yet I find it surprising how much I like her.

You know I was rewatching the elopement scene today and Ana gave Shahmir SO MANY chances to back off and go away. I think by that time her fam must have planned the double crossing and this girl,

- called Shahmir to tell him to go back

- called him to her room to tell him she’s ready to die alone and to LEAVE

- was genuinely frustrated when he wouldn’t leave asking him why the heck does he care so much

The only thing that shut her up was his love confession. And omg Ramsha ate that scene with her eyes. The SOFTEST. I think that’s when she decided that yes I love this man but he’s also never gonna leave me so I’ll be forced to go with him and follow the plan

Originally posted by: Muskanika

Some people think that she never loved Shahmir. I think the fuschia people too think that. That will break my heart more than Shahmir's. He emailed the pieces to me.

These blind people aren’t watching the show I’m watching lol. Nothing is more obvious than these two having feelings for each other. The show has been really DIRECT with that. Nearly all supporting characters have individually brought that up with both Shahmir and Ana separately. Every other scene was, excuse me but do you have feelings for mister/missy? Madiha, Dadi, Nauroz…

Not to mention we SEE Ana’s guilt over her betrayal in 2 separate scenes. Also how eager she is to return Shahmir safely. Matlab… should the girl start screaming it into the void?

Whoever doesn’t get it by now simply isn’t watching or listening

Originally posted by: Muskanika

It is weird I feel protective over Shahmir probably bcz of the excellent portrayal of his vulnerability but I look forward to the next episode to see what Ana does to see if I'm even understanding her correctly. And it might be her independence that is rubbing off on me that makes me expect things from her.

Have been waiting for that villainous transition of Shahmir for so long, yet can't even be mad at him when he elongated the wait. But fully trust him to keep my emotions safe- by protecting Ana, sticking by Nimra & not listen to dadi/ Nauroz , pushing away Madiha etc.

But with Ana you have to be careful - one moment she doesn't do anything but cries in her room when Nimra is being beaten and the next moment she frees her and bravely owns up to it to Nawab.

I’m the opposite. Shahmir is now giving me trust issues but I feel like I can trust Ana. I get her now. It’s Shahmir who’s going to change and I’m not sure if I’ll like that version of him. Let’s see! I want him to become a badass but at the same time I want him to draw a line when it comes to directly harming Ana

Originally posted by: Muskanika

I have also decided to rein in my expectations of Ana. If there are father's out there who're willing to sell their daughters to Nawab for money, then how can Ana even put a stop to it? Even if she stops Nawab, they'll look for another buyer. I agree that she should at least ensure that the crime is not happening in her home & the city she rules. But what kind of lives would those girls be living in the first place if it was so easy for their families to just sell them off like this.That aunty had a whole album of girls for Nawab. I guess if those girls are from DP & since she's now the law & order equivalent in DP, then she can try to help them the way she said that she wants to help the less privileged. Such things would not stop if Nauroz was in power, would they? If there was proper law & order in DP and people actually had an opportunity to make a future for themselves, then sure such things would lessen. Economics & social norms are v intricately linked.

It’s not a crime for Nawab to get married. To be honest. These girls aren’t underage so that case can’t be made either. And if Ana puts a stop to one, Nawab isn’t gonna stop either. He’s hell bent on this. If you notice since episode 1, Ana has a very distant and nonchalant attitude towards his wives. She’s disgusted by it but she can’t do much about it either. If the family gets money and the girls willingly marry him then what can she do?

There’s also the family lineage to consider. The nawabs would die after her. If she dies, all is lost for the family and its future. Maybe on some level she understands the need for an heir too.

The ost scene shows that the new bride hates Nawab so I’m interested to see how that will come about. Ana can be like old Ana or maybe she’ll put up more of a fight this time. Let’s see

Originally posted by: Muskanika

The only person I will never defend is Mir Hasan if he kills my AnaMir.

I feel like that’s why he came back to Duniyapur. To put an end to both families which he couldn’t lawfully do being a police officer.

Seedhi ungli se ghee nahi niklaa tou ungli tairhi ker li hai

Shahmir ko apna moment milay ya na milay Mir Hasan will definitely get his (because it’s been building up for a long time now. He’s been humiliated too much) and I think it’ll be a pure shock value STUPID twist like killing the last heirs of Duniyapur

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

For the first point this is why I like and root for Ana more because she’s always in a state of action and yet she’s mentally processing so much simultaneously. And when you get her moments of vulnerability they’re always SO rewarding to see. The way Ramsha plays with her eyes is a treat to watch. She oozes so much conflict and angst just by doing that. And to come to your last point, we HAVE gotten to see Ana publicly deal with her betrayal on multiple occasions now in front of different people. We’ve seen her get defensive in front of Mir Hasan and we’ve seen her vulnerable with her father and Nauroz. So emotional investment is definitely there. She fascinates us because she’s complex, layered and most importantly, HUMAN. She makes mistakes just like everyone else but it’s how she deals with it that’s different. She doesn’t justify it. She accepts it. That self insight is so refreshing to see. It makes her so much more interesting!

Rabia in Fucshia can be male lead biased a lot of times, I’m afraid. Female lead ke conflicts sarr ke uper se guzar jaatay hain uss ke Idk what more she needs to understand Ana lol. Girl has lost her whole family, has only her sullen pervy dad for company, yet is resourceful and making the most of her situation to come out on top. GUTS is the word. Guts of steel. She might not deserve Shahmir’s love at the moment but a good leader she is, through and through.

Coming to Shahmir, I have to slightly disagree now (since we are on episode 16) that I DO demand things from the character at this point in the story. To come out of his dad’s shadow and to make his own mark. I’ve waited enough. And Ana’s character has proven that you can still get sympathy while getting shit done too. I need Shahmir to reach that level. So I’m super excited for next week because I think it’ll be Shahmir’s moment to shine. And I really want a win that’s just HIS. Not people someone helped him or advised him about it. I want to see an independent show of power and I want him 100% responsible for the win like we’ve seen Ana achieve multiple times before.

Yes Shahmir needs an independent win but he's already a strong character in my eyes who resists the temptations to take the easy path. Just want to see his tough path being his own. And to outshine Nauroz. The people garlanding him when Nauroz gets back makes me hopeful.

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

I love that scene. And the way Shahmir closes his eyes as if he’s willing himself to NOT fall for it this time He looks so conflicted.

Love it

And she's trying to make him fall. Can't wait. 😭

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

Not entirely true. Mir hasan admonished her for her betrayal. She got defensive too just like Shahmir did. Then Nauroz asked her pretty objectively I think.

What matters is that Ana isn’t proud of it HERSELF. That’s the important thing. Which the show has made pretty clear. Her betrayal makes her sad and it’s a reminder of her losing her conscience.

You're right. They did ask her and she also has guilt but he doesn't know that. He needs to learn that.

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

Yes also if you count the numbers Ana has lost 4 brothers while Shahmir has lost just 1. But sadly we only got to see one brother of Ana’s - and it was too short of a period. And we never even saw her mom. So her trauma is there. It’s just not at the front as it has been for Shahmir.

Would have liked the writer to have focused on Ana’s backstory more in the beginning but I feel it’s not hampering me from loving her. I’m okay with it. But yeah, her side of the tale could definitely have been richer. Could have added some flashbacks maybe

I always thought that the scene where she cries for Nimra would've made for a great flashback placement of her childhood trauma.

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

You know I was rewatching the elopement scene today and Ana gave Shahmir SO MANY chances to back off and go away. I think by that time her fam must have planned the double crossing and this girl,

- called Shahmir to tell him to go back

- called him to her room to tell him she’s ready to die alone and to LEAVE

- was genuinely frustrated when he wouldn’t leave asking him why the heck does he care so much

The only thing that shut her up was his love confession. And omg Ramsha ate that scene with her eyes. The SOFTEST. I think that’s when she decided that yes I love this man but he’s also never gonna leave me so I’ll be forced to go with him and follow the plan

OMG OMG OMG That makes sense

But will Ana just follow her family's plan?