Duniyapur (GREEN) - Khushhal Khan, Ramsha Khan, Sami Khan - Page 82

It is weird I feel protective over Shahmir probably bcz of the excellent portrayal of his vulnerability but I look forward to the next episode to see what Ana does to see if I'm even understanding her correctly. And it might be her independence that is rubbing off on me that makes me expect things from her.

Have been waiting for that villainous transition of Shahmir for so long, yet can't even be mad at him when he elongated the wait. But fully trust him to keep my emotions safe- by protecting Ana, sticking by Nimra & not listen to dadi/ Nauroz , pushing away Madiha etc.

But with Ana you have to be careful - one moment she doesn't do anything but cries in her room when Nimra is being beaten and the next moment she frees her and bravely owns up to it to Nawab.

I have also decided to rein in my expectations of Ana. If there are father's out there who're willing to sell their daughters to Nawab for money, then how can Ana even put a stop to it? Even if she stops Nawab, they'll look for another buyer. I agree that she should at least ensure that the crime is not happening in her home & the city she rules. But what kind of lives would those girls be living in the first place if it was so easy for their families to just sell them off like this.That aunty had a whole album of girls for Nawab. I guess if those girls are from DP & since she's now the law & order equivalent in DP, then she can try to help them the way she said that she wants to help the less privileged. Such things would not stop if Nauroz was in power, would they? If there was proper law & order in DP and people actually had an opportunity to make a future for themselves, then sure such things would lessen. Economics & social norms are v intricately linked.

I have been Team Shahmir since the beginning bcz there was always a purpose- trying to save his brother, have to get Nimra back & now he needs to get Nauroz back (& I agree even though I dislike him). Now I feel, loyal and protective of him. Doesn't mean I don't root for Ana though. I don't want her to get caught bcz she was trying to get back Zameer chacha or bcz she was compassionate& smart enough to think about the poor in Duniyapur but it might be needed. To support anything in the long term we need a particular objective- we know they both want to change things but we don't know where they will draw the line between doing the right thing vs what is required- how much change would they be actually be able to bring since it has been established so many times that they don't have all the power even if they get in power. That's why after Nimra was freed, there was no team left to support other than Team AnaMir and them running away and living a happy life together. Ana broke that dream and Shahmir needs his respect back for still choosing the right thing over cleverness. That's why Team Shahmir again.

The only person I will never defend is Mir Hasan if he kills my AnaMir.

Okay ye zyada obsessive ho gya ab. Mai chalti hu. Please make me stop. 😭😭

Originally posted by: Muskanika

I have been Team Shahmir since the beginning bcz there was always a purpose- trying to save his brother, have to get Nimra back & now he needs to get Nauroz back (& I agree even though I dislike him). Now I feel, loyal and protective of him. Doesn't mean I don't root for Ana though. I don't want her to get caught bcz she was trying to get back Zameer chacha or bcz she was compassionate& smart enough to think about the poor in Duniyapur but it might be needed. To support anything in the long term we need a particular objective- we know they both want to change things but we don't know where they will draw the line between doing the right thing vs what is required- how much change would they be actually be able to bring since it has been established so many times that they don't have all the power even if they get in power. That's why after Nimra was freed, there was no team left to support other than Team AnaMir and them running away and living a happy life together. Ana broke that dream and Shahmir needs his respect back for still choosing the right thing over cleverness. That's why Team Shahmir again.

The only person I will never defend is Mir Hasan if he kills my AnaMir.

Dil se abhi bhi Team AnaMir hi hu. Bas Ana baji ko Krna hoga- mohabbat ko qubool/ mohabbat ka iqrar etc.

Originally posted by: Muskanika

Ana on the other hand is v Stoic and you constantly have to guess her motivations, how much she's affected by something and how she'll react, that's why she also keeps surprising us. Her moments of vulnerability are like finding the metals you have been trying to mine for a long time. Her regret & pain is visible in her eyes even when she's being fierce but she never lets herself just sit down and feel those emotions. This is also bcz she has no one to share these emotions with.

I would really like to see a more independent Shahmir honestly but when he comes on screen, he just makes you emotional ki yeah he's confused and you start sympathizing with him so much that you don't feel like demanding things from him since he makes you feel the pressure he's going through.

Ana has proved that she's not only a smart and capable leader, but also compassionate enough to keep all those considerations aside when it is something that really matters- by letting Nimra go. You want Shahmir to have that kind of 'hero' moment too. Even though the stature of his character is really raised in your eyes- like the attachment and rooting has been there right from the beginning. Also bcz on his side despite being a questionable character, Nauroz Adam takes away all the 'heroism' medals. You want your hero to overpower that manipulative man. But I love Shahmir & his dilemma is so realistic that it is difficult to demand things from him.

That being said what makes the fuschia people think that we have no emotional involvement with Ana? Have they not sat back and just thought about her motivations. Ana is dependable for the viewers, you know she will do something and you know that she's not just going to let things be. We don't need her crying every episode to be in sync with her emotions. Ana is love.

For the first point this is why I like and root for Ana more because she’s always in a state of action and yet she’s mentally processing so much simultaneously. And when you get her moments of vulnerability they’re always SO rewarding to see. The way Ramsha plays with her eyes is a treat to watch. She oozes so much conflict and angst just by doing that. And to come to your last point, we HAVE gotten to see Ana publicly deal with her betrayal on multiple occasions now in front of different people. We’ve seen her get defensive in front of Mir Hasan and we’ve seen her vulnerable with her father and Nauroz. So emotional investment is definitely there. She fascinates us because she’s complex, layered and most importantly, HUMAN. She makes mistakes just like everyone else but it’s how she deals with it that’s different. She doesn’t justify it. She accepts it. That self insight is so refreshing to see. It makes her so much more interesting!

Rabia in Fucshia can be male lead biased a lot of times, I’m afraid. Female lead ke conflicts sarr ke uper se guzar jaatay hain uss ke Idk what more she needs to understand Ana lol. Girl has lost her whole family, has only her sullen pervy dad for company, yet is resourceful and making the most of her situation to come out on top. GUTS is the word. Guts of steel. She might not deserve Shahmir’s love at the moment but a good leader she is, through and through.

Coming to Shahmir, I have to slightly disagree now (since we are on episode 16) that I DO demand things from the character at this point in the story. To come out of his dad’s shadow and to make his own mark. I’ve waited enough. And Ana’s character has proven that you can still get sympathy while getting shit done too. I need Shahmir to reach that level. So I’m super excited for next week because I think it’ll be Shahmir’s moment to shine. And I really want a win that’s just HIS. Not people someone helped him or advised him about it. I want to see an independent show of power and I want him 100% responsible for the win like we’ve seen Ana achieve multiple times before.

Originally posted by: Muskanika

Exactly he needs to know, if Nawab and Adam can see her soft side- Shahmir deserves to see it more. And it should be her this time initiating the romance. I have hope about this because of their cliff scene when she's in blue and says "Aakhon pe bharosa mat kro, aankhe dhokha deti hai" . It looks like she's trying to get his trust back - but guesses don't really hold true with Duniyapur so will have to wait for the actual context of the scene.

I love that scene. And the way Shahmir closes his eyes as if he’s willing himself to NOT fall for it this time He looks so conflicted.

Love it

Originally posted by: Muskanika

That is imp and she has had him at gunpoint so many times. Shahmir just needs to remember that Ana is also the person who saved his life twice and let Nimra go. He needs to do what he can to save Nauroz but he can't kill her. He closed his eyes out of pain everytime somebody reminds him of her betrayal.

I’ll be disappointed if he’s actually truly aiming for her because in my head that’s not the character sketch I have of him. He’ll probably say it a thousand times that he wants to shoot her and kill her and they’ll be a lot of posturing involved and delicious denial of his feelings, but to actually WANT ANA DEAD?! Na- uh. That’s not the Shahmir we have come to know.

On the other side, Ana WILL take it to 100% mean he wants her dead. She will really have to come to terms with how much she’s hurt this man and how things aren’t the same anymore. She does underestimate him so it’ll be fun to see.

On one hand I don’t want Shahmir to really shoot her - because it’ll ruin his arc for me - but on the other hand I really want Ana to feel the sting of his betrayal too

But to be fair, Ana never tried to kill him. Not directly like this.

Originally posted by: Muskanika

Remember we were discussing that how fun it would be when they are in their enemy zone and people will remind them that they ran away together. It's so painful in reality bcz Shahmir gets the entire burden of guilt whenever he's reminded of what happened. People around Ana are too proud of her actions to remind her and they think it was one sided.

Not entirely true. Mir hasan admonished her for her betrayal. She got defensive too just like Shahmir did. Then Nauroz asked her pretty objectively I think.

What matters is that Ana isn’t proud of it HERSELF. That’s the important thing. Which the show has made pretty clear. Her betrayal makes her sad and it’s a reminder of her losing her conscience.

Originally posted by: Muskanika

I think the fact that you need to think for a moment to understand Ana is also why people were unable to connect with her at the start. People are not used to unexpressive female characters, with male leads everybody keeps finding the inner heart. Whereas here Shahmir constantly wears his heart on his sleeve. Plus in the start so many things were happening around Shahmir- the whole Nimra thing was so deeply moving & you wanted him to regain power to protect his sister. Both of their brothers dying was sad but there was nothing that could be done to make it right, plus with Nawabs being in power it was practically a license for that evil buddha to torture Nimra. That's how Team Adam got its popularity.

Yes also if you count the numbers Ana has lost 4 brothers while Shahmir has lost just 1. But sadly we only got to see one brother of Ana’s - and it was too short of a period. And we never even saw her mom. So her trauma is there. It’s just not at the front as it has been for Shahmir.

Would have liked the writer to have focused on Ana’s backstory more in the beginning but I feel it’s not hampering me from loving her. I’m okay with it. But yeah, her side of the tale could definitely have been richer. Could have added some flashbacks maybe