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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

So is the nikah still valid even if she didn't observe iddah of 3 months (but only1 month)? I know there is no iddah if the divorce happened before marriage was consummated. But if marriage is consummated, is observing the 3-month iddah mandatory?

No it is not valid. She has to complete the iddah period if the marriage is consummated.

Hanafi fiqh says it’s mandatory to observe iddah even if marriage is not consummated but the couple has been in seclusion.

Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: NazneenA

Nope! The marriage will still be valid even if the Halala is planned. Halala is the gravest sin. Makru e tehreemi. But marriage will still be valid as per Ahle Sunna Hanafi.

When there comes acceptance & repentance it will become valid automatically. As of now it’s a forced marriage as well.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Haalim

When there comes acceptance & repentance it will become valid automatically. As of now it’s a forced marriage as well.

It's not about that. You said yes. It is valid. Ibraheem was coerced but he could have refused. He didn't. He also says I told Maulvi sahab that I will do Nikah but I can't really consummate. So eventually he did agree and said yes. Also it is not that only because they repent or accept, it will be valid. It is anyway valid because they said yes.

Yes, because it's a sin. When they repent they might be forgiven. But even if Halala is planned it still is valid. Also if they divorce and she marries shabbir again, that will also be valid. But will be considered a very big sin to plan Halala.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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So is the nikah still valid even if she didn't observe iddah of 3 months (but only1 month)? I know there is no iddah if the divorce happened before marriage was consummated. But if marriage is consummated, is observing the 3-month iddah mandatory?

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Yes observing iddah is mandatory 3 months ( 3 menstrual cycles) and if she was pregnant it would be until the baby is born.


Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: NazneenA

It's not about that. You said yes. It is valid. Ibraheem was coerced but he could have refused. He didn't. He also says I told Maulvi sahab that I will do Nikah but I can't really consummate. So eventually he did agree and said yes. Also it is not that only because they repent or accept, it will be valid. It is anyway valid because they said yes.

Yes, because it's a sin. When they repent they might be forgiven. But even if Halala is planned it still is valid. Also if they divorce and she marries shabbir again, that will also be valid. But will be considered a very big sin to plan Halala.

As it involves the curse from Allaah so some major scholars think the marriage is invalid but you do have a point.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: NazneenA

It's not about that. You said yes. It is valid. Ibraheem was coerced but he could have refused. He didn't. He also says I told Maulvi sahab that I will do Nikah but I can't really consummate. So eventually he did agree and said yes. Also it is not that only because they repent or accept, it will be valid. It is anyway valid because they said yes.

Yes, because it's a sin. When they repent they might be forgiven. But even if Halala is planned it still is valid. Also if they divorce and she marries shabbir again, that will also be valid. But will be considered a very big sin to plan Halala.

Interesting I’ve not heard this view before. I need to probably read up on this

I think they is a scholarly dispute about whether after planned halala her marriage would be halal. As you said some say it’s valid but a great sin and other say it’s not valid

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: meandwho

Isn't it two witness from each side. And if you count Shabbirs mom, she would be just half a witness.

So, overall the marriage is not valid in any circumstance

Commonly, yes most of nikkah i attended there were total 4 witnesses two from both sides but that's like maximum numbers. But Two witnesses are enough for nikkah and imam (molvi) can be consider as witness too.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: M0123

Interesting I’ve not heard this view before. I need to probably read up on this

I think they is a scholarly dispute about whether after planned halala her marriage would be halal. As you said some say it’s valid but a great sin and other say it’s not valid

Yes. There will be difference of opinion. Different school of thoughts will have different opinions. But this show is based in Indian subcontinent where Hanafi school of thought is in the majority. Hence my opinion

So sometimes for example if you obtained money by Haram means, but you started a buisness which is halal. So the income from that halal business will be halal. If the source was haram doesn't mean the that rest all will be haram.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: NazneenA

Yes. There will be difference of opinion. Different school of thoughts will have different opinions. But this show is based in Indian subcontinent where Hanafi school of thought is in the majority. Hence my opinion

So sometimes for example if you obtained money by Haram means, but you started a buisness which is halal. So the income from that halal business will be halal. If the source was haram doesn't mean the that rest all will be haram.

Also in the promo, they show another happy marriage track with the leads...

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: moosewithagoose

Also in the promo, they show another happy marriage track with the leads...

Yeah! Because it's just first episode, we are just speculating. We will get out answers only after few episodes I guess

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