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Posted: 4 years ago
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But its not that virat wont want their happiness either. Its that Sai has courage to speak up because she didn't grow up there. Her mindset is very different..She has a freh perspective. She can challenge the status quo that people of this household like Virat cant do.

I disagree that she got attached to them before virat. She was attached to virat in GC itself. Thats why she married him because she felt like she could trust him. There was an unacknowledged connection between them from long ago. Also if her father trusted him theres got to be a reson in Sais mind. Her relationship with virat has been very up n down but her connection, her attachment to him remains. Irs what makers her excuse his behavior to return to him because she feeks his apologies or repentance is sincere n coz shes attached to him.

She definitely now has an independent bond with each of the people in family and if virat-sai fight, she will still love these others- like aai, Mohit, Shivani etc. but as Sai herself has acknowledged her rishta with them came out of her marriage to virat.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

But its not that virat wont want their happiness either. Its that Sai has courage to speak up because she didn't grow up there. Her mindset is very different..She has a freh perspective. She can challenge the status quo that people of this household like Virat cant do.

I disagree that she got attached to them before virat. She was attached to virat in GC itself. Thats why she married him because she felt like she could trust him. There was an unacknowledged connection between them from long ago. Also if her father trusted him theres got to be a reson in Sais mind. Her relationship with virat has been very up n down but her connection, her attachment to him remains. Irs what makers her excuse his behavior to return to him because she feeks his apologies or repentance is sincere n coz shes attached to him.

She definitely now has an independent bond with each of the people in family and if virat-sai fight, she will still love these others- like aai, Mohit, Shivani etc. but as Sai herself has acknowledged her rishta with them came out of her marriage to virat.

Sai might have attached to virat in GC. My point is sai loved aswini, shivani, mohit,devi tai because they loved her back & gave her respect.

If she got attached to them because of virat then she must have got attached to other family members too.

But she didn't. She warmed up to them only when she started falling for virat as a husband.

Her bond with aswini,shivani,devi,mohit was independent of her attachment towards virat.

Her bond with samrat,kaku,ninad started because of her attachment towards virat.

Whether virat wants his family members happiness or not is another thing. My point is sai helped devi, shivani,aai out of her righteous nature & her love for them.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

But she kinda did. Its not brainwash but when Aai hesitated on the scale of the celebration n hesitated about going ahead with it, she coaxed her into agreeing. The coaxing only worked because somewhere Aai wants a reconciliation. And as much as Sai loves aai, theres always the fact that shes virats aai first. Whereas i know that if this was her aabaa , Sai would be completely focused on only n only him. Everything else would be secondary.

Aai's emotional manipulation similarly in the hospital worked because somewhere Sai wants to be with Virat..shes attached to him. She wishes the marriage were real n not deal.

My point is that apart from Sais natural instinct to help people, do the right thing- a lot of her going above n beyond to do things is because these people are important to virat, they are his family so they are hers too. In the process its ironically put in her in a position where she has had a disagreement with virat himself sometimes.

I agree that if aai had said she wants to be independent or suggested having had enough ot wanting a separation Sai would back her 100%. This whole reconciliation is not what Sai may want for aai. But shes doing it because Aai is hopeful of s reconciliation. But shes rushing it a tad.

Shes not a magician and 30 years bitterness wont go away in 1 celebration

I agree to what you are saying except for the bolded part. Everyone makes mistakes and Sai is making one even now. She was failing to see Ashwini’s pain especially in today’s episode. Ashwini is Virat’s mom for Ashwini but for Sai, she is like her own mom whom she had promised to stay in touch with even on the day she was ousted. She is related to Ashwini through Virat but what has happened in this track is that she felt that Ashwini and Ninad’s issue should be resolved since Ashwini was feeling bad. Virat also feeling bad is making her resolve stronger and that’s all. What she is doing for Ninad or tolerating Ninad is for Virat’s sake and also for Ashwini’s sake I think.

@bold I think this is true for some of the family members and not people whom she got attached to and definitely not Ashwini.

I do agree that she is rushing it and this is where her age, her experience in life is playing a part. She isn’t thinking rationally. Apart from thinking about it rationally, Sai fails to think certain things when she has made up her mind about certain things. She somehow thinks that it will help and gets blinded by it or gets carried away with it. What was disappointing is that she wasn’t happy when Virat did it but she herself is doing it thinking it will make Ashwini happy. If she and Virat can’t ensure that the family members respect Ashwini, especially Ninad, all this is of no use. It has to be an ongoing process and can’t be achieved in just a day.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

I agree to what you are saying except for the bolded part. Everyone makes mistakes and Sai is making one even now. She was failing to see Ashwini’s pain especially in today’s episode. Ashwini is Virat’s mom for Ashwini but for Sai, she is like her own mom whom she had promised to stay in touch with even on the day she was ousted. She is related to Ashwini through Virat but what has happened in this track is that she felt that Ashwini and Ninad’s issue should be resolved since Ashwini was feeling bad. Virat also feeling bad is making her resolve stronger and that’s all. What she is doing for Ninad or tolerating Ninad is for Virat’s sake and also for Ashwini’s sake I think.

@bold I think this is true for some of the family members and not people whom she got attached to and definitely not Ashwini.

I do agree that she is rushing it and this is where her age, her experience in life is playing a part. She isn’t thinking rationally. Apart from thinking about it rationally, Sai fails to think certain things when she has made up her mind about certain things. She somehow thinks that it will help and gets blinded by it or gets carried away with it. What was disappointing is that she wasn’t happy when Virat did it but she herself is doing it thinking it will make Ashwini happy. If she and Virat can’t ensure that the family members respect Ashwini, especially Ninad, all this is of no use. It has to be an ongoing process and can’t be achieved in just a day.

Her behaviour towards virat during their anniversary was wrong.. No justification..

But both situations are different.Aswini still wants her marriage may work out after this anniversary party.. She still has a ray of hope corner of her mind because both Aswini and Ninad did have love for each other.. It's just lost somewhere ..however this anniversary plan looks thoughtless idea to me because 30+ years of bitterness can not be resolved in one night..

I don't think this anniversary party can be the mirror for herself to realize her mistakes in Mahabaleshwar . Because in her delusional mind their marriage has an expiry date then why she should celebrate something that has no substance.. What she has done with Virat only can be understood when she finally realises that she loves Virat.. And this marriage is most real thing for both of them..

Edited by Shaome - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Will read the discussion at leisure as I'm sure it will be interesting

I think Virat not contemplating on his behaviour with Sai and Introspecting is fine here as the focus is on his parents.

Don't know what happens in KD and how cv's are planning to proceed here - as I said in another forum that to show FL as strong or the good females in a decent light they have to bear the worst humiliation (eg Anu/UD etc)

I feel the celebration is an opportunity to take them back down memory lane and sort of give them a 'new' slate to start on. Ash and Nin relationship started with marriage na so with Virat questioning his wajood which has shaken his parent's in their own way - he wants to give them that chance and push. If they have lived together for 37(?) yrs with hatred, no love, no emotion - why not take baby steps to be atleast amicable?

It was given the Anniversary was going to be a disaster because Scums can't change nor develop human qualities overnight!🤢 But it should be a wake up call that Virat continues to pursue openly.

Edited by Sofna - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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I know Sai does love Ashwini as her aai. But i personally feel that pyaar, parvaah jitna bhi ho, as far as parent-child relationship is concerned, Ashwini is virat's aai first n similarly aabaa is Sai's parent. kitne bhi log Sai ke life mein kyu na aajaye, no one will ever come close to her aabaa. Doesn't mean that there isnt a special and unique bond that aai has with Sai or aabaa had with virat. But Sai knows in her heart that they are her all her in-laws. She treats them as her own family yes. Many of them have given her love too- aai, shivani, Mohit..n more recently even the bk, ninad.But theres is always going to be an awareness that this is Virats family first. She is Virats patni, ghar ki bahu to them all, beti "jaisi". Beti maan ne main aur beti hone mein thoda farak toh hai. It doesn't negate anything or take away from the special bond but farak hai. Aur rahega.

Thats just the realist in me.

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