(Spoiler alert 6th Nov episode) Insensitive to celebrate anniversary

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I know many haven’t watched all the episodes until 6th November and some have decided to watch episodes daily. It is sad to see that there is another split in the forum due to episodes getting uploaded in advance. Not sure what their plan was. I am not active in the forum but I do drop in comments once in a while to express my views. Today is another time I couldn’t stop myself from doing so.


There can be many reasons to try to convince Ninad to accept that he lets them celebrate his and Ashwini’s anniversary. I haven’t really been happy that they brought everything down only to celebrate the day. I was happy when Ashwini’s abuse was brought out and Virat was taking a stand for her though it did look hypocritical. But they did a good job in also showing that he admitted that he has also never took a stand whenever someone kept insulting his mom and that too in front of everyone. It was good to see a son regretting that he has made a mistake and it cannot change even when Sai was trying to make him feel better. I wish along with all this, they had shown some kind of introspection from Virat’s side as how he has also behaved with Sai many times in the past and in the recent past too. How he has remained silent when Sai also gets insulted by Pakhi and everyone in the family. He who is shown to respect Sai’s Aaba has failed to show the same respect when Kamal was criticised or when people used to comment about his upbringing, Even if he himself had spoken many rude and harsh things, when the talk is about how one stays silent when Ashwini gets attacked, can’t forget how many times Virat has stayed silent when his wife was getting humiliated too by Pakhi in his own room and everywhere, in the recent past too. I really really wished they used this opportunity to let him introspect on this.


Now coming to the anniversary, when Ninad asked what Virat wants, wouldn’t it have made more sense for Virat to ask his Dad and others in the house to give respect to his mom and learn to consider her opinions too. Isn’t that how they started to act, like Ashwini’s opinions doesn’t get considered or respected. Didn’t the whole thing start with pointing out that no one, no one actually stands up for his mom or raises voice against people or his Dad when someone and especially his Dad insults his mom. What’s the point in coming up with an act without actually addressing the main issue and turning it into a way to just make Ninad let them celebrate their anniversary.

By celebrating this anniversary, I thought that they will be hurting Ashwini and they have actually done that. What are they trying to do by all this? This sounds so ridiculous. For a minute, I was so happy two episodes back when we got to see a very important issue being addressed in the show after an year but they have just proved that they have to blend KD track in everything making all their creativity go waste.

It was heartbreaking to see Ashwini having any hopes from this person even after everything that he spoke in front of everyone. That shows how much she has always kept hopes alive in her even though she knew that her hopes will be shattered. Looks like even if she had given up on this relationship, she always did have some hopes that things will get alright one day and the guy will be able to see her goodness some day. It would have been better if Virat had asked as why they are two together and why has he kept his mom bound with him if he doesn’t even want to remember his wedding day. Yes, he would ask about his wajood, but in addition to that, what was Ashwini even doing in this house. How did he or Sai didn’t think that this relationship doesn’t make any sense at all. Why did they have to think that Ashwini should be a part of the celebration, that celebration which doesn’t make any sense at all. Why did they think that Ashwini should do things for their happiness. Why didn’t they look for Ashwini’s happiness. It would have been nice to see them thinking what the future holds for Ashwini. Virat did cry saying not sure whether his Dad would ever be able to love his mom. Instead of fighting for her rights, instead of fighting for justice, they both just fought to celebrate an anniversary?

I was very upset with Ashwini and Sai’s scene. Ashwini clearly said that she isn’t happy with the celebration. Ashwini even said that these people are doing it thinking there will be some change in hers and Ninad’s relationship, shouldn’t Sai think?

Sai left the anniversary venue because whatever Virat did didn’t make sense to her and it was hurtful for her. The same way, Ashwini walked out of living room today. It didn’t make sense for Sai to make Ashwini accept to be part of the celebration for the sake of Virat’s happiness. It was hypocritical of Sai to even be surprised that Ashwini was upset when they are all excited to celebrate their wedding anniversary. Is it just enough that Ninad accepts to be part of all this despite him reiterating that he is doing it only for his son’s happiness?

Ashwini is so right in asking as how do these people think that all this will make Ninad change his attitude towards her or that Ninad will start feel something for Ashwini. And she has all rights to express that she doesn’t want to be a part of it. Out of all, it should be Sai who should understand that celebration wouldn’t mean anything. She herself was so mad at Virat to have even celebrated their anniversary when their marriage was that of a deal. In that way, Ashwini and Ninad’s marriage is a sham, it is in a even horrible state.

After just an year, Sai didn’t want to celebrate and didn’t feel it right to celebrate. Of course there is a third angle involved and I understood Sai’s hesitation, her frustration and anger when Virat tried to celebrate their wedding but then can’t she understand that Ashwini is getting hurt in this process? How is she failing to see how difficult it must be for Ashwini to be a part of all this? Why is Ashwini expected to be happy with the gift she and Virat bought? So Ashwini should do things to keep everyone happy including her own son and daughter in law even though she doesn’t feel like celebrating it? Even though she feels that these don’t matter? I found Sai acting insensitive in all this and especially today.

If Sai and Virat have a plan in place to make Ninad realise something or if they are trying to rekindle their past memories by dressing up as shown in precap, it is okay but they both should know that at the end of everything they would be ending up hurting Ashwini if Ninad continues to insult Ashwini and their marriage. Infact ever since all this started, he has started to tell it more openly every now and then that his marriage doesn’t mean anything to him, that he is not happy with Ashwini, that he doesn’t want to be reminded of when they got married. Kaku even mocked by asking Ninad if he isn’t expecting her to wish him and he has again made it clear that it is all done only for the kid’s happiness. How much more will Ashwini have to get insulted. Out of all, including Sonali’s disgusting comment, Ninad disrespecting Ashwini and disregarding their marriage must be so humiliating for Ashwini. I really hope that the makers have tried to show some changes by using this celebration, otherwise it will turn into another occasion where Ashwini will be put down by everyone, get humiliated on the day of her life which she wishes to cherish but is not even able to. It is very sad to see Ashwini’s state in all this.

Have wanted Sai to help Ashwini in pursuing her graduation ever since Ashwini expressed how she wasn’t allowed to pursue it. It would have been a nice opportunity for both Sai and Virat to think of it or do something to boost Ashwini’s confidence, something to make her independent. It doesn’t mean that people shouldn’t respect her if not for any of these, but this would have given some kind of distraction for Ashwini too and to do something for herself. They should help Ashwini to learn to stand up for herself whenever necessary. Ashwini felt that Virat shouldn’t have stayed quiet when all of them were pretending to insult or attack Virat, she should be taught and reminded time and again not to take insults hurled at her by anyone. Virat even asked why does she stay silent, they should ponder on that and they could have shown Virat and Sai to help Ashwini to stand up for herself even today when Sonali was insulting her in addition to Sai’s retort to Sonali. If at all Sai and Virat wants to do something, they should keep trying that Ashwini should gets respect in the house and that Ninad should first learn to treat her as a human being. They should explore more on this and would be nice to watch one part of the family working as one team to do something meaningful. This would also let Sai and Virat think about their own relationship and where they are going wrong too. This can also help Mohit and Samrat too to learn a certain things. Have no hopes from others.

They can also show Sai and Virat thinking that Ashwini need not even live with Ninad. They can bring a divorce track. They can show that Ashwini need not stay in this worthless marriage and with some worthless people. It might be too much to ask from Ghum I think.

Just my views.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Point.

I was disappointed today ... everything is not about the 'special day'. And they are actually subjecting Ashwini to so much more taunting by the family members. Love cannot be demanded especially after so many years of marriage. Yes, it's a real situation in many marriages especially the older generation. But if not love, just ask for kindness and respect.

I liked the parallel you drew about Sai's reaction to her anniversary when celebrated by Virat. Actually maybe someone will bring it up and make her think. Because the NINi track is kind of running parallel to Sairat's track! It just struck me. Thank you !


I have to add that I was not happy that Sai asked Pakhi to dress up Ashwini. She could've asked Shivani, like someone mentioned. This of course requires Virat's special request ...😡 and Madam will get over excited.


PS: Pakhi made Ashwini look over dressed like herself.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Great that you posted such a thought provoking one here..I am happy I had a hand in making you do this 😊

I have not watched today's as in 30-10-2021 episode, but since the time the whole thing came up, Ninad's waht you want from me and Virat's let us celebrate you anniversary I have been having an issue with this..KD did not talk about the abuse that Ashwini went through to this extent, they made Virat speak for his AAi, her respect, question his wajood and yet he demands him to celebrate his anniversary and not respect for his Aai, if not as a wife then atleast the son's mother he claims to love..

I am more disappointed with Sai in this track, Virat is shallow when it comes to understanding core emotions, like this.. He has been pretty materialistic in his approach that way, so thats fine..My issues was with Virat in the way he talked with PP but thats for some other post.

.But Sai, was she not the same woman who lost her cool and decency when she was given a surprise for celebrating a marriage that she has not been considering her marriage. I was fine with her anger back then, I did not agree to anyone who said, she should have cut the cake celebrated it , I would always say, if she does not feel like a wife, if she feels that he hid it from the family and Patralekha for a reason whereas he celebrated her birthday with them all, she was justified and right to deny the celebration. And here she wants Ashwini to be happy about it all, when her husband has denied accepting her as his wife, is insulting her, the family members including the younger ones like Patralekha are insulting her.. She is asking her about not being happy for the celebration of a marriage that has hardly been a marriage in the last 30 or 37 whatever years.. Absolutely insensitive and hypocritical of her, doing the same thing for the woman which she did not like for herself and also expecting her to be happy...

My heart cries for Ashwini...because I have seen marriages like these all around...Its not just a case of Ashwini being insecure about Ninad and Bhavani like Ninad mentioned, its the case of Ninad absolutely disrespecting her as a human being, forget as a wife. She has been inhumanly treated in this house. Only respect she got here and there in the name of rituals was because she was a mother to a son, who is successful professionally... Like Kumuda mentioned yesterday, hope they talked more about Ashwini's pain as a woman... I feel for such women deeply and I cant see it being wrapped under a carpet..this way..

Wistful me wanted Virat and Sai to leave the house with Aai...This was the time... I hope someone writes an OS. Jjust because Sai and Virat are leads, not necessarily every thing has to be about them..SUch pertinent issues should be dealt with sensitivity and if they incapable, then do not introduce it. But then this GHUM the "real" show !!!

I repeat Sai is coming across as a plaster saint...going by what I read today.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: scarlett22

Point.

I was disappointed today ... everything is not about the 'special day'. And they are actually subjecting Ashwini to so much more taunting by the family members. Love cannot be demanded especially after so many years of marriage. Yes, it's a real situation in many marriages especially the older generation. But if not love, just ask for kindness and respect.

I liked the parallel you drew about Sai's reaction to her anniversary when celebrated by Virat. Actually maybe someone will bring it up and make her think. Because the NINi track is kind of running parallel to Sairat's track! It just struck me. Thank you !


I have to add that I was not happy that Sai asked Pakhi to dress up Ashwini. She could've asked Shivani, like someone mentioned. This of course requires Virat's special request ...😡 and Madam will get over excited.


PS: Pakhi made Ashwini look over dressed like herself.

It is really disappointing that Sai is not even thinking how Ashwini must be feeling. I think she and Virat knows it especially after the way Virat cried thinking about what his Dad spoke. They must be knowing how Ashwini must be feeling. They can try to make her feel special but not by doing this. If at all they want to cheer her up, why not do something else and why only this? 🤦‍♀️

I don’t understand why Sai had to ask Pakhi to help Ashwini to get dressed up. It could be that she thinks that Pakhi dresses up really well but Shivani also dresses up well and loves to get dressed. She has even asked Sai what saree to wear for Pooja and all. Sai knows how much Shivani loves Ashwini, so shouldn’t a person who has good regards for Ashwini do the honours than a person who always disrespects Ashwini? Didn’t Sai ask Pakhi if she would be happy if Samrat behaved with her the way Ninad does with Ashwini and even after that she chose Pakhi?

Not sure why makers want to show Virat mellowing down to Pakhi. He agreed with Sai but also requested Pakhi. They need to stop giving such scenes. Virat should have been given a dialogue to take a stand for Ashwini when Sonali commented on Ashwini’s looks but they instead gave him dialogue to request Pakhi when it wasn’t needed at all.

Pakhi agreed since Virat requested as usual 🤦‍♀️. You are right 😂, Pakhi has made Ashwini look bootiphul like how she looked on the day of Satyanarayan Pooja.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

It is really disappointing that Sai is not even thinking how Ashwini must be feeling. I think she and Virat knows it especially after the way Virat cried thinking about what his Dad spoke. They must be knowing how Ashwini must be feeling. They can try to make her feel special but not by doing this. If at all they want to cheer her up, why not do something else and why only this? 🤦‍♀️

I don’t understand why Sai had to ask Pakhi to help Ashwini to get dressed up. It could be that she thinks that Pakhi dresses up really well but Shivani also dresses up well and loves to get dressed. She has even asked Sai what saree to wear for Pooja and all. Sai knows how much Shivani loves Ashwini, so shouldn’t a person who has good regards for Ashwini do the honours than a person who always disrespects Ashwini? Didn’t Sai ask Pakhi if she would be happy if Samrat behaved with her the way Ninad does with Ashwini and even after that she chose Pakhi?

Not sure why makers want to show Virat mellowing down to Pakhi. He agreed with Sai but also requested Pakhi. They need to stop giving such scenes. Virat should have been given a dialogue to take a stand for Ashwini when Sonali commented on Ashwini’s looks but they instead gave him dialogue to request Pakhi when it wasn’t needed at all.

Pakhi agreed since Virat requested as usual 🤦‍♀️. You are right 😂, Pakhi has made Ashwini look bootiphul like how she looked on the day of Satyanarayan Pooja.

Sai asking Pakhi is irritating and Virat going on to add his expert insistence is even more irritating..He asked her normally thats fine....but why insist so much...knowing she has been so disrespectful towards his Aai and wife both...Once is fine..like Sai and Samrat did...I heard he insisted till she agreed.smiley29 Azab Gazab Virat..smiley39

CVs need to understand that Patralekha has done enough damages and in Virat's visibility and his knowledge...any interaction like this would put Virat in the wrong page.copy or no copy....

Alot of TRP audience think he has a soft corner for her which is not the case...All in all its making him look dumb..

I repeat Patralekha is openly vile and disgusting ...RK was not..so Rono getting deceived was justified...Virat appears a fool..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I agree to many aspects. But if Sai were to truly pull her real personality on this, n tell aai to divorce n leave, Ashwini wouldn't do that either. So Sai is shaking up the status quo. Because she's seen the hope aai/virat have out of this celebration. So i think in Sais head its that- if this anniversary can trigger nostalgia, good memories n fresh start- good. If not, then atleast some questions have been raised n Virat is more vocal in supporting Ashwini so people will think twice about insulting her knowing the ghar ka chiraag wont be mute anymore.

Ideally i would have definitely preferred that they didnt brush away the bitterness n abuse of 30 years n had shown Ashwini separate, finish her education, maybe start her own lil business of papad/achaar or something like that, be independent n Sai, Sairat being there to suppprt all that.

But yahaan par Aai/Virat do want a reconciliation. Aai has said she doubts if anything will change and is upset that ninad is so bitter. But she also told Sai of the love they had, what things were like. Recalled old fond memories. If aai had said, i have had enough, i wish I could leave, I feel like Sai would have supported that.

But here because aai herself actually wants a new start with the same man, she is kinda pushing for it.

But yes, theres no need for them- both Sai n Virat to be so pushy about all this large scale taam jhaam at this juncture n doing skits n what not. It would make more sense to have a small private get together given that the issue is still so sensitive n ninad is melting very slowly that too more about virats guilt, virats sadness n feelings regarding his relationship with Ashwini....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Sai asking Pakhi is irritating and Virat going on to add his expert insistence is even more irritating..He asked her normally thats fine....but why insist so much...knowing she has been so disrespectful towards his Aai and wife both...Once is fine..like Sai and Samrat did...I heard he insisted till she agreed.smiley29 Azab Gazab Virat..smiley39

CVs need to understand that Patralekha has done enough damages and in Virat's visibility and his knowledge...any interaction like this would put Virat in the wrong page.copy or no copy....

Alot of TRP audience think he has a soft corner for her which is not the case...All in all its making him look dumb..

I repeat Patralekha is openly vile and disgusting ...RK was not..so Rono getting deceived was justified...Virat appears a fool..

From what I saw, he told Sai that she has chosen a perfect person for this job. He then asked Pakhi if she will help his mom to get ready and Ashwini then replies saying she doesn’t want to get dressed up in a special way and all, then Mohit then asks Ashwini, how will she not want to do all this, he would have got her ready if he knew how to and Virat then asks Pakhi that she hasn’t replied and if she would help his mom or not. The scene wasn’t necessary but I don’t think it was to do with the character Virat in this case but more to do with the maker’s creativity 😂.

Btw I too believe that Virat has soft corner for Pakhi and he will melt if she is in trouble. Him acting as a human is fine but he shouldn’t cross the line especially after knowing her intentions well. The less I talk about his equation with Pakhi, the better for me.

Virat is a hypocrite and now Sai is also acting hypocritical in this track.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Neerja says, Aswhini told Sai that there was love in the relationship which was lost eventually and she was happy at the aspect of anniversary being celebrated.......


https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/159316185

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

From what I saw, he told Sai that she has chosen a perfect person for this job. He then asked Pakhi if she will help his mom to get ready and Ashwini then replies saying she doesn’t want to get dressed up in a special way and all, then Mohit then asks Ashwini, how will she not want to do all this, he would have got her ready if he knew how to and Virat then asks Pakhi that she hasn’t replied and if she would help his mom or not. The scene wasn’t necessary but I don’t think it was to do with the character Virat in this case but more to do with the maker’s creativity 😂.

Btw I too believe that Virat has soft corner for Pakhi and he will melt if she is in trouble. Him acting as a human is fine but he shouldn’t cross the line especially after knowing her intentions well. The less I talk about his equation with Pakhi, the better for me.

Virat is a hypocrite and now Sai is also acting hypocritical in this track.

I dont see him having a soft corner for her in a special way...But he does makes it look like the same..If Sai says she is not bothered by Pakhi, he would be happy about it, irrespective of how Sai is treated back..You see observing also the way these two women behave with each other, he equates their behaviour with each other, he reduces it to mere disliking each other...Even if he thinks so , Sai's dislike and Patralekha's cannot be equated...But then again he does it... More than him having soft corner, I see him being very dumb and delusional. Jaise ki pichla minute kabhi aaya hi nahi tha...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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In today's episode you see how she looked hopeful in her conversation with ninad. Even though she knew ninad agreed for virats sake, she seemed to be hopeful of a new start.

At no point has ashwini even in private been shown thinking- i dont want to deal with this. Or even making it seem like virat is her only reason to stay in this marriage.

She genuinely loves ninad and in the previous episode she made it seem like many years ago ninad did care/love her too. But it was lost over time.

So Virat/Sai want to figure out why theres been distance n MU and i guess they figure that triggering old memories of the love they shared may be a good place to start.

But they don't have to be so pushy as to do it all in 1 day! Thats the problem.

Why force NiNi to dance ?!

Why force too much to happen. They have to be a little realistic.

This celebration happening and a slight softening of ninads stance, making bk wish both Ashwini n ninad is already a big step.

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