I am loving this cold virat👍👍 - Page 2

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I feel it's a little more complicated than that....my take could be incomplete.

Both are wrong at this point...and both are right too ....but the power to end the stalemate lies with Virat IMO

If we imagine even a normal marriage, an ex's constant interference, the sense of entitlement in accusing the husband of cheating, etc....it will cause havoc on any couple's relationship as I see it. It will be left to the appropriate partner to set boundaries, be firm with the ex (perhaps move out of the house) and give reassurance to the spouse. So SaiRat marriage is sitting on a minefield as it is.

I don't believe Sai is taking Virat for granted. She is confused about the situation as well as her feelings. Agreed she is not handling her confusion well. She is building a wall to safeguard her heart as well as putting up an indifferent attitude. If she had confronted Virat with straightforward questions and demanded to know the answers, this issue still may have long been resolved. That's what Sai could/should have done. But that will happen only when she is able to understand the situation or navigate her own vulnerable feelings. (Sometimes Sai's straight-forward questions are met with jalebis or silence...which will only heighten her misapprehensions). Unfortunately people around her are useless - Ashwini acts like her MIL and Usha mausi is on some old-fashioned train. Both are too simple-minded to guide her in this complex issue. She may be having a black & white outlook on love - but it's not something a plain, honest talk won't cure.

As for Virat, he fails to see the impact Pakhi's presence in his life is having on his marriage. It was Virat's blunder of not setting healthy boundaries with Pakhi that has led to Sai's doubts and fears. He tries to tell Sai in bits and pieces about his past...but does not take the initiative in actively reassuring Sai by being more open and or in showing Pakhi her place during crucial moments. It is extraordinary how he doesn't perceive the minefield they are standing on especially considering he knows what it feels like to be insecure (Ajinkya, Aniket) - but that's what it is.

Sai's flaws in her thinking may cause small issues in other aspects of their relationship.....but I don't believe the current problem in their relationship has got anything to do with it.

I agree.. I keep mentioning, its not just a day, just 10 days or a month, its a whole year that has made her the way she is...One really needs to see her change after the whole confrontation scene on the pool..The change in her attitude was so subtle that it would take a lot of effort to relate her with the earlier Sai, even the one before manhandling episode one.. Imagine..she is knocking the door of her own room and Pakhi after everything, after every truth out still gets to enter her room without knocking. And on top of that she gets to see him out in a cafe and no one would ridicule her the way Sai has been for going out with her husband. And this one has to ignore all this...all this and understand his love for her, through his actions..

In my opinion Both have equally failed in understanding each other.. Sai fails to see his love, though quickly without being told understands his insecurities and jealousy....While Virat fails to understand her insecurities, her jealousy and also her longing for him..The difference is one speaks with teary eyes when hurt and the other speaks in a blunt and brash tone..Both have said very hurtful words to each ither, the tone has been different... And I feel bad that the onus is on her , on her alone, with no Sunny to guide her, no understanding of what love is......its on her to understand he loves her!!!😭

While he still gets to see and meet Pakhi in a cafe !! And she is supposed to think there is nothing between them..She is not supposed to link it with the divorce between Samrakhi and how they plan to move ahead after that, with him distancing himself from her completely. Because ofcourse that's not what's natural in this case.... She is supposed to get over all these feelings alone and reach him out.. Fair on her? I dont think so.. It was for both of them to realise what they have failed to understand about others and not just one.. But then anyway they are not focusing on Sai's hurt... So no expectations there..

And how do we decide that she takes him for granted when she has entirely changed herself , her values to stay back in this house for him..Remember she once casually said how she is not the same Sai she was before coming to the house and Virat saw it as a taana..Everytime she mentions how she feels he terms it as taana or wants her to adjust, ignoring her feelings towards her ..But then thats not rude since he very calm , composed and loving while saying all these things..While Sai uses the worst words to tell him his shortcomings...Has he ever reflected on how much she has changed her ways , herself in this house..for him? She adjusts her whole cycle to fit into that house, because well she is the bahu and every bahu has to behave in a certain way.. She also has said so many times that at college people make fun of her when she studies in the canteen, since she hardly gets time here..These points of her were so subtly ignored by her that even we as audience forget , seeing how sad and depressed Virat has become for being rejected for his surprise.. Even when she tells him the reason, he is not ready to register it or gather it.. And yet in all this the onus is on her to suffer and realise herself Because she keeps a happy front infront of everyone and keeps announcing she does not care, while the others get to feel sad and depressed..

Where is Aai? Where is Shivani?They can diverge a little from KD here and show their counsel or just share Sai's woes. I really wish they show good friendship bond with AJ or any other girl. It knocks me off that Sai doesnt have a 'friend' !

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Where is Aai? Where is Shivani? They can diverge a little from KD here and show their counsel or just share Sai's woes. I really wish they show good friendship bond with AJ or any other girl. It knocks me off that Sai doesnt have a 'friend' !

Exactly..I feel really bad to see how Sai deserves this treatment for so long but this is not something that is a result of her own doing..Both has equally contributed to this..

I don't watch ghkpm regularly but I saw some clips in IG wow loving virat's behaviour

Sai is biggest drama queen as well as egoistic brat when comes to virat and his feelings always take virat just as granted never ever think of her mistakes common 18 yrs girls are more sensible and matured than this dramebaz and let sai suffer this time wish virat continue his behaviour for some more time and don't give shit to sai the drama queen

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

There is a saying jubaan or talwar dono ka use soch samajh ke karna chahiye kyunki dono kaam ek hi karte hai hurt karne ka talwar se mila wound bhar bhi jaata hai lekin jubaan se mila wound turn into something worst coz it hurt emotionally & mentally.

From day one when virat met her ,she kept on insulting virat on various occasions he kept on letting it go but now she crossed d line , she needs to be taught a lesson .

KJ was no doubt a gem but sai being d only child raised without a mother got pampered too much from KJ that he started covering up her faults , initially while approving KJ's VRS virat did mentioned how pissed off he is from Sai's behaviour that time KJ just cover it up by telling about jagtap but it's not fair if u r in some problem it don't give u license to insult other , u can't insult an on-duty officer that 2 he is not at fault , if anyone else would be at virat's place then instead of VRS ,Kamal sir would had gotten termination or suspension.

After every fight virat alway made d first move to patch up but this time when he dint , so hitted sai , I wonder how she forgot that virat broke his relationship with her & it was she who instigated him that he don't keep his words, anniversary ka yaad raha but apna khud ka behaviour yaad nhi rha.

I hope virat continue this behaviour & stop being a punching bag of sai, makers don't bring any sympathy track for sai to make virat guilty .

For God sake Ashwani don't turn up to virat to tell how only he is d wrong & justify Sai's behaviour like everytime anyways Ashwani hardly cares to see that even virat can get hurt .

I totally agree with you well said sorry I forgot your name

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I feel it's a little more complicated than that....my take could be incomplete.

Both are wrong at this point...and both are right too ....but the power to end the stalemate lies with Virat IMO

If we imagine even a normal marriage, an ex's constant interference, the sense of entitlement in accusing the husband of cheating, etc....it will cause havoc on any couple's relationship as I see it. It will be left to the appropriate partner to set boundaries, be firm with the ex (perhaps move out of the house) and give reassurance to the spouse. So SaiRat marriage is sitting on a minefield as it is.

I don't believe Sai is taking Virat for granted. She is confused about the situation as well as her feelings. Agreed she is not handling her confusion well. She is building a wall to safeguard her heart as well as putting up an indifferent attitude. If she had confronted Virat with straightforward questions and demanded to know the answers, this issue still may have long been resolved. That's what Sai could/should have done. But that will happen only when she is able to understand the situation or navigate her own vulnerable feelings. (Sometimes Sai's straight-forward questions are met with jalebis or silence...which will only heighten her misapprehensions). Unfortunately people around her are useless - Ashwini acts like her MIL and Usha mausi is on some old-fashioned train. Both are too simple-minded to guide her in this complex issue. She may be having a black & white outlook on love - but it's not something a plain, honest talk won't cure.

As for Virat, he fails to see the impact Pakhi's presence in his life is having on his marriage. It was Virat's blunder of not setting healthy boundaries with Pakhi that has led to Sai's doubts and fears. He tries to tell Sai in bits and pieces about his past...but does not take the initiative in actively reassuring Sai by being more open and or in showing Pakhi her place during crucial moments. It is extraordinary how he doesn't perceive the minefield they are standing on especially considering he knows what it feels like to be insecure (Ajinkya, Aniket) - but that's what it is.

Sai's flaws in her thinking may cause small issues in other aspects of their relationship.....but I don't believe the current problem in their relationship has got anything to do with it.

I agree dear .. a lot of it is created by virat itself .. but some issues were created by samrat’s absence …pakhi could openly act as his ex .. and the housemates bully Sai .. even virat gave the sympathy benefit to pakhi ..

If samrat stays on this house .. virat pakhi conversations will always be under scanner ..virat now knows what samrat thinks of them .. so if not for sai for samrat he will set boundaries ..Sympathy that pakhi was taking .. unabashedly will hopefully go

Also if he goes away .. he sets a base for Sai to visit him .. and try living separately from the other family members ..

I really think some time is needed for both to get calm .. and introspect

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I remember this beautiful scene in KD, where Sai kind of throws herself into Virat's arms.

As you said, when she sees him with changed emotions she will 'want' him differently. Leena the writer potrayed the transition very organically and beautifully.

When she goes to meet him on his birthday, she get trapped and he rescues her like before. But the way she sees his actions are completely different. The way she looks at him and falls into his hands faking an injury clearly shows her progression!!

Leena definitely is a good one with understanding psychology of her characters!

Oh yes she’s very good .. the author is the hero in the story .. the plots are lame .. but how the characters behave is very realistically shown .. I have seen Sai , virat and even pakhi all around me …ashwini , Kaku are all quite real zzz

People are very selfish in real life .. nobody behaves like saints these days .. every character has their own motive ..

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I agree.. I keep mentioning, its not just a day, just 10 days or a month, its a whole year that has made her the way she is...One really needs to see her change after the whole confrontation scene on the pool..The change in her attitude was so subtle that it would take a lot of effort to relate her with the earlier Sai, even the one before manhandling episode one.. Imagine..she is knocking the door of her own room and Pakhi after everything, after every truth out still gets to enter her room without knocking. And on top of that she gets to see him out in a cafe and no one would ridicule her the way Sai has been for going out with her husband. And this one has to ignore all this...all this and understand his love for her, through his actions..

In my opinion Both have equally failed in understanding each other.. Sai fails to see his love, though quickly without being told understands his insecurities and jealousy....While Virat fails to understand her insecurities, her jealousy and also her longing for him..The difference is one speaks with teary eyes when hurt and the other speaks in a blunt and brash tone..Both have said very hurtful words to each ither, the tone has been different... And I feel bad that the onus is on her , on her alone, with no Sunny to guide her, no understanding of what love is......its on her to understand he loves her!!!😭

While he still gets to see and meet Pakhi in a cafe !! And she is supposed to think there is nothing between them..She is not supposed to link it with the divorce between Samrakhi and how they plan to move ahead after that, with him distancing himself from her completely. Because ofcourse that's not what's natural in this case.... She is supposed to get over all these feelings alone and reach him out.. Fair on her? I dont think so.. It was for both of them to realise what they have failed to understand about others and not just one.. But then anyway they are not focusing on Sai's hurt... So no expectations there..

And how do we decide that she takes him for granted when she has entirely changed herself , her values to stay back in this house for him..Remember she once casually said how she is not the same Sai she was before coming to the house and Virat saw it as a taana..Everytime she mentions how she feels he terms it as taana or wants her to adjust, ignoring her feelings towards her ..But then thats not rude since he very calm , composed and loving while saying all these things..While Sai uses the worst words to tell him his shortcomings...Has he ever reflected on how much she has changed her ways , herself in this house..for him? She adjusts her whole cycle to fit into that house, because well she is the bahu and every bahu has to behave in a certain way.. She also has said so many times that at college people make fun of her when she studies in the canteen, since she hardly gets time here..These points of her were so subtly ignored by her that even we as audience forget , seeing how sad and depressed Virat has become for being rejected for his surprise.. Even when she tells him the reason, he is not ready to register it or gather it.. And yet in all this the onus is on her to suffer and realise herself Because she keeps a happy front infront of everyone and keeps announcing she does not care, while the others get to feel sad and depressed..

I get you dear .. I feel it both need to stay apart to understand each other’s worth .. if they stand together .. others will not point fingers at them ..

After the handholding incident when both went to temple together .. during shivratri .. nobody in the family say anything

during Sai’s birthday .. everybody clapped and participated whether they like it or not because both were standing together ..

In contrast .. when one person skips or acts diffident .. the Chavan hyenas pounce at them ..Sai was apologetic from the start for going to mahabaleswar.. she showed the weak link and the family members took advantage..

If by contrast .. both would have blushed happily for going on a holiday .. Sonali , Kaku pakhi would have just left fuming .. she was diffident and put virat under the bus .. saying I would never have gone .. and all that .. virat was not borrowing money to take his wife out .. and he is not dependent on his family .. if Sai had stood firm with him .. he would have openly told he and wife are going out on a break .. pls excuse us .

Both have let down each other .. though I agree Sai has faced the brunt a lot more times than virat .. many many times more than him .. he is let off easily

Originally posted by: msin

I get you dear .. I feel it both need to stay apart to understand each other’s worth .. if they stand together .. others will not point fingers at them ..

After the handholding incident when both went to temple together .. during shivratri .. nobody in the family say anything

during Sai’s birthday .. everybody clapped and participated whether they like it or not because both were standing together ..

In contrast .. when one person skips or acts diffident .. the Chavan hyenas pounce at them ..Sai was apologetic from the start for going to mahabaleswar.. she showed the weak link and the family members took advantage..

If by contrast .. both would have blushed happily for going on a holiday .. Sonali , Kaku pakhi would have just left fuming .. she was diffident and put virat under the bus .. saying I would never have gone .. and all that .. virat was not borrowing money to take his wife out .. and he is not dependent on his family .. if Sai had stood firm with him .. he would have openly told he and wife are going out on a break .. pls excuse us .

Both have let down each other .. though I agree Sai has faced the brunt a lot more times than virat .. many many times more than him .. he is let off easily

SHe has forgiven him for bigger crimes in a blink of an eye. While he gets to be angry for I dont know how long because he felt insulted. What about the insults she had to feel because of Pakhi being in their life, because of being abused for being his wife, claiming him as her husband. Has he reflected on any of these things she mentions, just asks her to not taana maaro him...Just asks her to not say anything that hurts him.. SHe once said how she no more is her won self after marrying in this family..He treated it as a taunt..She tells him how she is laughed at by friends when she is studying during free time at college , since she hardly gets time at home..She has modified her whole cycle for this family and she cant even talk about the problem she faced since he feels bad..Has he given a thought about these things.. Its just that Virat expresses his hurts with tears and Sai with her brashness, Sai's feelings have been misunderstood.

If he told her this is anniversary trip , she would have stood firm with him.. Virat convinces her for everything he wants...It has always been that way..be it staying in room, the trip or not leaving the house. The way she was insulted for going out with him on Ladakh trip , how is she to still stand firm when the whole family calls her out for that....especially after she has witnessed the confrontation scene she has stopped calling herself , his wife. Since the time she gave up, after the assault. And was she wrong there, they called her out yet again when she is back.. Which normal family does that?

If Sai deserves this treatment for behaving this way with, what does Virat deserves for all these things and other actions of him that almost costed her life, her shelter, her self respect...I hate that about Sai..she is so forgiving...and since she is brash and rude all her good qualities are ignored...by everyone. Even Virat!!

For Sai to not see him as her AAba, Virat also needs to keep switching between pati hun, legal guardian hun ..When after college fests she asks him some direct questions..he calls him her legal guardian and wants to know her feelings..Does not go that way, he set the standards, its his ex who is always in their room and he wants to gauge her feelings first..He has always reversed the question and then gets into self consumed mode, without giving a thought about others, something that he expects from others..

The problem is I have issues with Sai handling it all after everything that would go around her in all this, with this man being this way. This is going to stretch unlike the accident track where Virat was at fault.

Not connected to topic sorry

I want some reporter ask Neil why Virat agreed for a coffee date with Pakhi in such situation . I believe he knows Virat better than any one of us.