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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Wow just wow. That’s why you should write.👏

I specifically liked how you explained first two parts!
I just looked at current situation after he stopped her from leaving. But to understand Sai’s insecurities, we cannot ignore the day they decided to get married. The words he uttered are etched in her mind. Only his words again could erase them.


Yes high time he confesses. In KD it made sense to delay. But here as we know virat is too close to her to not say the words! But alas we can only wait.


I agree that sai sometimes sees pakhi as frustrated lover. Afterall she is kind hearted and matured, but her love( unexplained) for virat and her need for him puts her into this confusion. It is heart vs mind for her always. Unless she feels secure with virats love for her, she will act crazy with him 😳


Age insecurity plays major part here. They are like a generation apart. ( 5 years itself is a generation gap now a days) 😅. And virat knows she is exposed to men of her own age and probably similar mentalities. He also knows that she has her own mind and also courage to get what she wants. But he fails to see her as a woman who is unknowingly but willingly committed to him. You have explained the attraction and crush part very nicely. She has no choice but to fall for him, given that she is married to him. If it had been a bad guy, may be she will think about someone. But he is the guy whom she already respected and looked up to. Moreover they formed this strong emotional bond before their marriage. So it is inevitable that she will be atttacted to him! Her teasing virat shows her closeness to him but because she doesn’t know his feelings for her, she can’t gauge his disappointment.

Did you explain why he said guardian to her? I might have missed it.



Forgive me for jumping in here. For one, I really enjoyed reading all of your guys' analysis. It is what I love most about this forum. I absolutely love discussing SaiRat's character and relationship development.

In terms of bolded, maybe I am in the minority here, but I do not think that Sai is ready for a confession yet. As of now, she does not even think they are real husband and wife. Before Virat confesses, I would really love to see a scene where Virat essentially says his monologue about wishing he had never said those words to Sai out loud. Before Sai can truly accept Virat's love or even realize her own feelings to the fullest, she needs to hear Virat say that this marriage is REAL to him. All she wants is to hear Virat tell her that he believes in this marriage and he cares for her so deeply beyond the zimidari jalebis he always spins to get out of expressing his feelings. When Sai asked him what he is to her and was waiting for his response, you could see the look of desperation on her face. She WANTED him to tell her that he is her husband... the real kind...not just the deal kind that is implanted into her head as of now. And even so, when he said that he doesn't know whether he is something to her or not, but he has rights over her, she looked HAPPY. She had a slight smile on her face.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

If virat confessed love, then Sai may not believe him. He has spun too many jalebis. I think starting off by clarifying that this marriage is 100% real to him and he wants to be committed to her and their marriage to see how it goes is a better start. To her that means that pp is s thing of past and he is ready to move on with her.

Right now she feels like he is holding back from "accepting" pp due to his obligation to samrat and her and that he is burdened by her responsibility sbd any affection he has for her is "out of habit" rather than a husband's love for his wife.

Him calling himself a guardian only reinforces that feeling of only being his zimmedari. She does not want to be his zimmedari, she craves to be his "wife". That's why she harps on leaving him eventually because once her studies are completed she'd be independent and no longer his zimmedari.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Nja91

If virat confessed love, then Sai may not believe him. He has spun too many jalebis. I think starting off by clarifying that this marriage is 100% real to him and he wants to be committed to her and their marriage to see how it goes is a better start. To her that means that pp is s thing of past and he is ready to move on with her.

Right now she feels like he is holding back from "accepting" pp due to his obligation to samrat and her and that he is burdened by her responsibility sbd any affection he has for her is "out of habit" rather than a husband's love for his wife.

Him calling himself a guardian only reinforces that feeling of only being his zimmedari. She does not want to be his zimmedari, she craves to be his "wife". That's why she harps on leaving him eventually because once her studies are completed she'd be independent and no longer his zimmedari.


Exactly. Glad we are on the same page about this. I know everyone wants confession, but the end of jalebis must come first. He needs to acknowledge that this marriage is real.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi


Exactly. Glad we are on the same page about this. I know everyone wants confession, but the end of jalebis must come first. He needs to acknowledge that this marriage is real.

Agree with you two. Confession can wait. Clarification needed first.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Loved reading the discussion that's going on over here. It was missing past few days, but it's something I thoroughly enjoy!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi


Exactly. Glad we are on the same page about this. I know everyone wants confession, but the end of jalebis must come first. He needs to acknowledge that this marriage is real.

Count me in guys

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Posted: 4 years ago
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glad to have you on board 🤣

now we just need to convince vanku baba

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Posted: 4 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: tptwi


glad to have you on board 🤣

now we just need to convince vanku baba

I hope he does not looses his brain

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Posted: 4 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

OMG! Beautiful post ❤️.

Just a few reactions to your post...

I agree that Sai perceives "a hurt lover" behind Pakhi's aggression towards her. She sees that Pakhi's anger against her is born of disappointment, hurt and desperation.(Sai's POV). So while she gets insecure seeing the 'jealous lover' in Pakhi, somewhere deep inside it also evokes her sympathy, and perhaps self-blame (that she is the wall standing between Virakhi).

Loved your take on how Sai perceives Virat's jealousy - as coming from a spouse and not as a lover. While their marriage is a contract with an expiry date, it is not an 'open marriage' and both are aware and keen to keep the basic 'maryada' of the deal wedding till the time it lasts. So Sai may easily perceive his jealousy as coming from that expectation - and with her mind already made up about him being in love with Pakhi - it would be easy to overlook some telltale signs. In the initial days of marriage, even Virat thought Sai did not like him speaking to Pakhi as coming from the same expectation.

I understand that Sai sometimes forgets the deal part and gets carried away with her feelings - when she too almost gives in to his advances (laddoo romance and party kiss). I agree she gets confused about her reaction as well as Virat's during these vulnerable moments. But I don't see her dwelling or introspecting on it. For anyone, someone (even a husband) making a physical advance would be a huge deal - she may have given in to the moment but what about Virat? Virat - whom she believes is committed to Pakhi and whose integrity she trusts - won't she question why he was getting physically intimate?

As for confession, I think CVs are just buying time. Virat was looking to confess twice before - once during Holi and another during Harinee birthday. There was no fear of rejection then - when had no inkling of Sai's feelings. Now atleast he suspects Sai's interest. Honestly speaking his confession during holi did come out of the blue - till that time he was shown to be terribly fearful of rejection. I think Virat's realization of love came too early into the story (Holi) - but it was a deliberate move in order to give some context to Virat's actions during the ousting kaand. So now they don't know how to delay the confession. Hence the convoluted plot of Virat trying to ascertain Sai's feelings.

As for Sai teasing Virat about his age - I don't think Sai would not have made the comment if Virat was a romantic partner nor would Virat have been sensitive about it if he did not have romantic feelings for her. Since his feelings are unknown to her, she was just pulling his leg as a friend.

Thanks


@bold The times that he has really got close was before holi and at that time things were getting better between Virat and Sai. He put on bangles in her hand but she was shocked when he had dupatta on her head before trying to kiss her. Before she even interpret about the bangle thing where both missed each other, got emotional and carried away, Holi function had begun. After the missed kiss, Virat apologised to her thinking he had overstepped his boundaries but it must have come across to Sai as if he came to his senses when her phone rang. She then started to say that she has to leave the house one day while getting Devi ready too.

And then after the ousting, there is no way she is going to think he has feelings for her. But, even then she would have thought about it, but would have pushed those thoughts aside since the reality was something else.

But once she was back from GC, she saw how he wanted to meet her as soon and called out her name, rushed to meet her and fell on the floor. She saw how he kept calling her as his wife in front of the doctor , how he had told Pakhi that he wanted to meet Sai and all that. Those were times when she was able to see that he was looking at her as his wife, someone whom he wanted to meet, someone whom he had also bonded with and hence wanted to meet especially when his life was in danger. She could see that they both had built a bond. That was another emotional moment when without hesitation, she let him hold her hands and the physical touches didn’t look awkward to her. But as soon as they reached home, reality hit her again in the name of Pakhi who made a big issue. Pakhi not letting her meet Virat, making everything an issue made her ask them questions as a wife but she also was aware that Pakhi and Virat have a past and Virat had given a commitment to Pakhi which is why she said in front of the family that hers and Mohits relationship is not the same as Virat Pakhi’s. She remained clueless when he said he didn’t feel like returning home since she wouldn’t be there but instead spoke about Devi Tai which had hurt Virat because she couldn’t understand what he was telling her. She couldn’t think about it at that time because just before that Pakhi had created an issue. But she eventually understood when he said he will miss her when she would work in the kitchen. It can be taken as flirting or even him teasing her and that’s why she pulled his hair and said “Awww aap mujhe miss karoge”.

The problem is they show us next days just like that, their interaction, Devi’s visit, them feeding each other, in all these times she could see them bonding again, she could see them as a couple. She got carried away during the laddoo scene too. That scene looked like him teasing her and also getting close to her. At the end when he ate the laddoo, she came out of her trance and felt stupid to have got carried away and said that he is very bad and hit him too. So, that again came out as if he was teasing her. They were getting close at the time he had admired her and told her a kavitha but Pakhi interrupted the moment before she could try to make sense out of Virat’s actions. But even then, she went with the flow. At the party is where she was aware of what he was about to do because she was aware of the surroundings. And then came the scene near the pool. That is why it upset Sai a lot. He again pinned her to the wall, she wanted to believe they were having something, they were turning into a real husband and wife, but it went all crashing down. She even told him that he doesn’t owe any expectations. She told him at the pool too that it is not news to her and she had forgotten.

Because she had forgotten, got carried away by emotions (not just physical one) she just went with the flow and didn’t even remember to question about him and Pakhi. The reality hit her hard.

She didn’t question him directly as how can he get intimate with her but instead told him that he has to choose on the day she confronted him and Pakhi. The reason in first place to tell him that he can’t have both is your question. She trusts his integrity but thought that he got carried away as a husband and that is why she said that he can either fulfill his commitment or continue their marital relationship. After he made her stay back, he said that he is not committed to anyone which is a kind of relief but she isn’t convinced that he loves her and that is why he broke his past commitment.

His integrity is not in question now when he makes advances because he has said that he is not fulfilling any commitment now but their marriage is still in question. She still doesn’t understand where they stand in their relationship because he has not cleared that part. She even asked him if he didn’t ask her to not have any expectations, all he could have done was tell that it was his stupidity and he doesn’t think that way anymore.


@blue 🤣🤣


I have a different take on the confession. I have been saying this for a long time even though I want him to confess. To be frank, more than confession, I want him to clear the things about their marriage, tell her he wants to make it a real one and share about his past with Pakhi to her.

The reason Virat used to not confess was rejection is one thing but there is one more thing. And it is very valid especially where they stand now. If you look at it, after they returned home from the venue, Sai asked him whether he fulfills his promises or not. He had told her that he is no longer committed but he also knows that it will be very difficult for him to explain that he has moved on. If he confesses, Sai can be doubting his integrity, she can doubt how one can fall in love and fall out of love so soon, she can doubt that he can fall out of love with her too in the future. Hence, the hesitation. He was about to confess in the venue but he has this at the back of his mind I believe. He tried to kiss her in the room but that was again something he thought of doing getting carried away by emotions. He felt a strange sense of emotions that came out of gratitude, the love for her grew even more after she got his sister and Kaku united. In that moment, he didn’t think much. But after confrontation, he only got worried that Sai won’t be able to understand his changed feelings. Since he had got to know Sai must have feelings for him, he thought of exploring that and bringing that out before he could confess. That way, Sai will definitely confess her feelings for him, she would know what love is, would know what he means to her and what she means to him. Even yesterday, he tried to make her see his actions so that she understands him better. All these will only help for her to not misunderstand when she comes to know that he loves her now. Because if he just confesses without her realising that he actually really loves her or without realising how important she has been to her, she would only doubt his love, she would only think that his love for her is only because they have got married, would only think that it was very easy for him to move on from one girl to another.

That is why, I want him to clear about his marriage and share about his past than telling her that he loves her. Another thing, we would never get time after it has passed. All this can make sense for him to not confess but it shouldn’t stop him from making their marriage a real one. Because, he misses this opportunity now, there can be many misunderstandings between them in the future. The earlier he clears it, the better. He gets spellbound by her questions, will be better to clear it to avoid auch questions in future.


@last para I know that Sai was just pulling his legs, was playing with him. Sometimes teasing can also have adverse effects. It is not just with Virat, even if you tease a child or someone about their looks or weight, they won’t respond the same all the time. One time they might take it causally or joking and would leave it, but there can be times where it would induce a self doubt within them which can make them explode. In this case it is a sensitive thing for Virat because he used to think she doesn’t like him, he also said that she didn’t want to get married to him, he has doubts that she probably has feelings for him but he also isn’t sure about it. Her comments on his age will only make him feel that it bothers her or she cannot like him because he is old or she might like only young guys and things like that. Though she said it in a fun way, it could prove to be harmful to their relationship especially when both don’t know what the other is feeling or what the other wants.

It is nice to see her teasing, I can see that she doesn’t mean to act insensitive and is just pulling his legs, as I have said I am a tease myself 🙈. However, it can have its own implications in Sai and Virat’s life due to the position Virat is in. She knows that he gets annoyed, can get irritated and pulls his leg. I just want her to notice that his annoyance is also because he is really getting affected by it and it is not just a casual one. When we do it again and again, it can really push people to the edge. Virat is a very sensitive guy and this topic is a very sensitive one. She might not know his feelings for her, but she can start to notice how it is actually affecting him. I really doubt in the funny or jolly mood that she gives it or takes it, she will be able to notice these. They both always have nok jhoks and she would only be looking at this too one like that.

Since it is a really long post, Will write about the guardian part and his jealousy part as another reply.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: tptwi


Forgive me for jumping in here. For one, I really enjoyed reading all of your guys' analysis. It is what I love most about this forum. I absolutely love discussing SaiRat's character and relationship development.

In terms of bolded, maybe I am in the minority here, but I do not think that Sai is ready for a confession yet. As of now, she does not even think they are real husband and wife. Before Virat confesses, I would really love to see a scene where Virat essentially says his monologue about wishing he had never said those words to Sai out loud. Before Sai can truly accept Virat's love or even realize her own feelings to the fullest, she needs to hear Virat say that this marriage is REAL to him. All she wants is to hear Virat tell her that he believes in this marriage and he cares for her so deeply beyond the zimidari jalebis he always spins to get out of expressing his feelings. When Sai asked him what he is to her and was waiting for his response, you could see the look of desperation on her face. She WANTED him to tell her that he is her husband... the real kind...not just the deal kind that is implanted into her head as of now. And even so, when he said that he doesn't know whether he is something to her or not, but he has rights over her, she looked HAPPY. She had a slight smile on her face.

Wow, I truly agree. I think there has been an ambiguity. Many a times when I say confession, it is not his feelings, it is about the marriage. I want him to mainly clear about their marital status since he made brought in the deal part. Yes, he can confess but I first want him to clear the mess that was created by this deal and I also want him to share about his past with Pakhi.

By saying Sai is not ready for a confession, you mean she won’t be able to understand how he can have feelings for her when he used to love Pakhi, then I agree. I had a just written about this as another reply to Nethra where she has spoken about confession. Going through tags one by one now 🙈.

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