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Posted: 4 years ago
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//I am trying to analyze my understanding here… so could be confusing as well. What to do CVs put us in this state with the dialogues.//

//Sai loves virat but doesn’t realize it…She knows he cares for her, a lot! Then what is bothering her? I think she wants to hear that he loves her. They keep throwing at each other pati patni words… so they know what the words mean. By extension they also know what is lacking … physical and verbal expression. Sai witholds because virat declared ( verbally) his love to pakhi! It is a big thing for her because she doesn’t get the same for her from him. She CANNOT see his actions or willing to see his actions. She wants clear words. So she withholds.//

Sai does seem to have a pretty idealistic view of love & marriage! 😳In GC, she asked Virat why he was marrying her....does he love her? I guess she wanted a yes! Even today, she doesn't say...." if ours had been a normal marriage"...instead she says, "if we had liked each other and decided to get married". Very romantic girl 😆. AND.....she actually takes Virat and Pakhi's love very, very seriously despite knowing it was some blink-and-miss romance at a yoga resort! 🤣

So then, if Virat had not confessed his love but just told her "we will give this marriage a chance"...what would have been her answer?

While her love-before-commitment notion is possible, I always felt that she was ready to accept her marriage from day 1 - until that ridiculous pyaar-dosti slip from vaada boy.



//hugs are not considered romance here. Let’s get that straight in Ghum world. She thinks he is affectionate. The only kiss she knows is the party wala kiss which would have been erased by the following kaand. (That’s why don’t put unnecessary hugs and kisses and confuse us). So there is NO strong physical attraction perceived for her from virat! That’s adds to her insecurity. And hence jealousy for pakhi. Virat’s jealousy is clear. So not Discussing//

I think FD lost patience too soon and became restless for romance. ☺️Hugs are atleast passable, but the party kiss, forehead kiss, ladoo romance were confusing. Physical comfort could have been shown via sitting close, casual touches etc. Actually things were going perfectly before - no forced, out-of-place romance . The romantic scenes were added as fan service I guess. Yes, we enjoy it, but I guess it adds confusion.

I am trying to analyze Virat's jealousy from the point-of-view of what Sai makes them out to be. Jealousy is a definite sign that someone is interested in you, if not in love with you. Virat missed Sai's jealousy for Pakhi because he misunderstood it as Sai-Pakhi not getting along. The moment he realized that Sai may be jealous, he began to hope that Sai has feelings for him. That is the kind of logical reason I'm looking for Sai - when Virat clearly shows he is jealous of guys she interacts with, surely she must know that Virat is being anything but platonic with her. I feel she does perceive his jealousy - in Amey's case, she tells him she won't mind him flirting with other girls, and in Aniket's case, she makes a sincere effort to let him know that he is just a friend. Even today, Virat made it obvious that he did. n't like her being friends with a guy. If a guy is jealous of somebody I talk to, it is obvious he is interested in me. So i find that logic missing in Sai's thinking - and it confuses me.


//He said guardian because I think 2 reasons: just few minutes before she reiterated that they didn’t marry each other by will. Second reason is he wanted to sound little authoritarian.🤭 and stop her seeing male friends. //

@bold He is unnerved by Sai declaring that she will cut all ties with him after some time - infact he is smiling - but when he is trying to get her to accept her feelings, he says he is her gaurdian?smiley44


//So what word choices he has: they keep throwing husband casually. So if he says he is her husband will it matter to her? No. Then is guardian the only word?


What is sai expecting as an answer? that he loves her. SHe is not going to settle for anything less… husband she knows he is! She wants the lover in her husband. Will virat confess when she few minutes before said that their marriage is not willingly done? Hence he chose (Husband - lover = guardian 👍)
virat chose to utter the logical answer 😊//

Possible 😆. That man is capable of giving the most logical jalebis...🤣

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Edited by nethraa_99 - 4 years ago
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My answers in Blue. Have just tried to answer it, not sure if I could really clear your doubts Nethra.

Text in black Sadiltl.

Text in red Nethraa.


//Sai loves virat but doesn’t realize it…She knows he cares for her, a lot! Then what is bothering her? I think she wants to hear that he loves her. They keep throwing at each other pati patni words… so they know what the words mean. By extension they also know what is lacking … physical and verbal expression. Sai witholds because virat declared ( verbally) his love to pakhi! It is a big thing for her because she doesn’t get the same for her from him. She CANNOT see his actions or willing to see his actions. She wants clear words. So she withholds.


Sai does seem to have a pretty idealistic view of love & marriage! 😳In GC, she asked Virat why he was marrying her....does he love her? I guess she wanted a yes! Even today, she doesn't say...." if ours had been a normal marriage"...instead she says, "if we had liked each other and decided to get married". Very romantic girl 😆. AND.....she actually takes Virat and Pakhi's love very, very seriously despite knowing it was some blink-and-miss romance at a yoga resort! 🤣

So then, if Virat had not confessed his love but just told her "we will give this marriage a chance"...what would have been her answer?

While her love-before-commitment notion is possible, I always felt that she was ready to accept her marriage from day 1 - until that ridiculous pyaar-dosti slip from vaada boy.

You are very right, her “if we had liked each other and got married” is coming because that is how she would have preferred it as. She had expected or secretly hoping something of that sort even in GC when he has proposed her when she didn’t even know what she felt for him. His deal and his commitment had put an end to whatever she was feeling or whatever could have got built in her heart. Every reply of hers like “I too don’t want to marry you” or “I too can’t be your wife” or “don’t expect anything from me too” or “I will leave once I become a doctor” were retorts to his proposal, to his deal. It was as a result of hurt that she felt back then and it was that hurt she kept carrying very very strictly so that she doesn’t get hurt again by him by developing any feelings for him even by mistake. It was that constant efforts from her side that made her always ignore everything that can look as if she meant something to him. She was very clear not to give in to any of his kind actions or any of his emotional bonding. The reason behind her rejecting his friendship was all because of the truth that she knew about his commitment that he had himself said which she has started to see in the form of Pakhi and Pakhi’s blatant love for Virat. Yeah, the pyar dosti slip up, his restlessness or anger he had shown after Pakhi left the house was the start where she had realised how important Pakhi actually is for him because until then it was only her assumption and she had only seen Pakhi asking him what she means to him on the terrace on the very first night of Sai’s in CN.

The reason she takes Virat Pakhi’s love very serious is because of the waada that Virat spoke about. The waada wasn’t a small one to give. We all know the history behind it but not Sai. Anyone giving such a big life long commitment would mean how serious the relationship must be or how important the person must be for them. It looks like an eternal love because of which a person decides to never fall for another girl again, never get settled in his life. The waada by itself speaks for how committed he must have been to Pakhi, how much he would have valued or felt for Pakhi that he gave such a big promise to her. People do have a past but they move on but in this case, he was willing to pledge his entire life for someone else which can only mean how strong his feelings for Pakhi would be. It is that realisation that makes Sai hold herself back, it is that realisation which is not letting her accept anything else from his side, it is this which makes her take their love story to be a very serious one and hence his words of reassurance alone would help her get rid of these thoughts.


//hugs are not considered romance here. Let’s get that straight in Ghum world. She thinks he is affectionate. The only kiss she knows is the party wala kiss which would have been erased by the following kaand. (That’s why don’t put unnecessary hugs and kisses and confuse us). So there is NO strong physical attraction perceived for her from virat! That’s adds to her insecurity. And hence jealousy for pakhi. Virat’s jealousy is clear. So not Discussing//

I think FD lost patience too soon and became restless for romance. ☺️Hugs are atleast passable, but the party kiss, forehead kiss, ladoo romance were confusing. Physical comfort could have been shown via sitting close, casual touches etc. Actually things were going perfectly before - no forced, out-of-place romance . The romantic scenes were added as fan service I guess. Yes, we enjoy it, but I guess it adds confusion.

During the party kiss or even the laddoo kiss, Sai had forgotten the deal part of their marriage. After she returned from the hospital, she realised the importance of him in her life, she started to show her care for him without any hesitation. Even though she said that she will leave, she started to act as his wife, ascertain rights too as his wife. She started to get comfortable with him, was soaking in those emotions, was enjoying their togetherness, his attention and was getting carried away too to his advances. She was brought back to reality after what she heard at the pool. She also did tell Virat right that it was not something that she wasn’t aware of but she had forgotten it for sometime. That was it. It was for this reason, especially the party kiss that Sai had told Virat that he can’t have both, he either needs to choose his commitment or his marriage.

Sai becomes emotional when it comes to Virat and his safety, she came back running to him and even in the hospital, let him pull her, she couldn’t imagine a life without him and got carried away. She always breaks or doesn’t hesitate to break the barriers when it comes to him not being around and his safety. She ran and hugged him when he said that he has accepted to go on the mission. The same way, she let it be when he was about to kiss her on her forehead. These are times when she knows she wants him and his safety, she also could have thought that just like her even he can get emotional and would have wanted to kiss her on her forehead before he leaves. His move didn’t give her time to think and she also didn’t mind she he was going on a mission. She somewhere starts to get the husband and wife feeling between them at times like this.

But that doesn’t last long since something else comes up which puts an end to this trance of hers. She was emotional at the time he was leaving even if she had said that she will let him do his duty, but as soon as the alarm rang, she was brought out of the trance. She felt shy and ran away. It is time like these that she must be thinking what she is doing. She must be in confusion as what she is doing and what Virat is also doing.

But Pakhi’s drama, his family not accepting her as their bahu disturbs Sai a lot. She gets into a turmoil. She fails to understand where they stand as a couple, what is her position in his life. Pakhi getting affected by Sai and Virat’s closeness in turn affects Sai a lot. She definitely feels pressurised as what she should do, whether she has come in between Virat and Pakhi, if they both would have got together if she had not entered his life, if she is the reason for Pakhi feeling miserable, to be acting this vile. It must be making Sai feel miserable that Pakhi keeps stooping low everyday only because Pakhi is not able to get into Virat’s life. I think somewhere Sai starts to blame herself to have in come in between them. It is as if, he was forced to take her responsibility which is not a hidden fact and she also has heard from him about his commitment, so I think, the feelings starts to look mutual between Virat and Pakhi whenever she sees that yearning in Pakhi, desperation, hurt, anger and hate in Pakhi. She does know that they shared a past and if not for her, they both would have had a chance to get reunited since Samrat has also not returned. His family liking Pakhi makes her feel that they will all look at Pakhi as an ideal wife of Virat and when Virat himself had once had feelings for her, it is just her who has become a hurdle in their life. She fights with Pakhi many a times when Pakhi creates issues when Virat feeds her or takes care of her or when Pakhi tries to show her rights on Virat. At times like those, Pakhi is not Virat’s wife, she starts to feel herself as Virat’s wife, her status is challenged by Pakhi which makes her fight for it, Pakhi also gets too unreasonable forcing her to show her her place. But sometimes Sai sees Pakhi as a hurt lover, she can look past Pakhi’s anger or hatred and can see a visibly hurt and a frustrated lover. It is this which brings in an insecurity within her because even though she is Virat’s wife, is not his love, as per her Pakhi is. Virat’s waada is a proof to it, she also heard it from Pakhi’s mouth at the pool too so Sai becomes weak, doesn’t know how to fight with a lover of her husband. She thinks she has no place in his heart and brings in many doubts within her about their relationship.

Things becomes worse when Pakhi and Virat’s thoughts matches like how she could immediately connect when Virat said “he was hurt”, to what Pakhi had said when she gave the pendant to Kaku. Virat’s jab tak tum iss ghar mein raho statement put her back to square one. One side it is Pakhi’s love and other side some or the other slip up from Virat pushes her away from him, makes her feel more insecured even when she starts to loosen up herself to him.

Other than these, we need to see that Virat is not only Sai’s husband, he is the only guy in her life whom she can look at or loosen up to or with whom she can get and is comfortable with. She is very young, has just entered college, be it her attraction or infatuation or crush or anything, it can only be him since she is already married. Sai knows her boundaries since she is a married girl and wouldn’t dare to look at any guy in that way, now if she has a crush on someone too, it would be Virat. She anyway had some unknown feelings or connection or attraction for him. She wanted him to stay back with her in GC after her Dad’s death even though she herself asked him not to step into her house. She needed his support and she did get some comfort from just his presence. Some of his physical touches or looks can also be her looking at him as an attraction or as her crush or as her infatuation or due to her own age. He happens to be her husband who has a past, so it is all messed up for her.


I am trying to analyze Virat's jealousy from the point-of-view of what Sai makes them out to be. Jealousy is a definite sign that someone is interested in you, if not in love with you. Virat missed Sai's jealousy for Pakhi because he misunderstood it as Sai-Pakhi not getting along. The moment he realized that Sai may be jealous, he began to hope that Sai has feelings for him. That is the kind of logical reason I'm looking for Sai - when Virat clearly shows he is jealous of guys she interacts with, surely she must know that Virat is being anything but platonic with her. I feel she does perceive his jealousy - in Amey's case, she tells him she won't mind him flirting with other girls, and in Aniket's case, she makes a sincere effort to let him know that he is just a friend. Even today, Virat made it obvious that he did. n't like her being friends with a guy. If a guy is jealous of somebody I talk to, it is obvious he is interested in me. So i find that logic missing in Sai's thinking - and it confuses me.

Virat could see Sai’s issues with Pakhi as jealousy only when Sunny told him about it. Sometimes we have a block in our head that wouldn’t let us think anything else. Virat also missed Sai’s jealousy for Pakhi because he has been thinking Sai can never like him, can never have feelings for him. It is the exact same thing that Sai also feels. She feels that Virat can never like her or have feelings for her. When Ashwini, Devi or Shivaji had told her too, she thought about it but always dismissed off that thought because according to her, they are overthinking, they have misunderstood and that it is not possible at all. The reason being what Virat told her during their marriage and also because she is now aware of their past which he hasn’t clearly cleared yet.

In Amay’s case I was surprised that she found the reason for his anger and so did she find in Aniket’s case too, but she looks at it as it is something coming from a spouse and not because he has feelings for her. She also gets jealous of Pakhi even when she keeps calling the marriage a deal, when she keeps saying she will leave the house and she also hasn’t realised her own feelings for Virat. She thinks his jealousy and anger to be similar to what she feels, he is doing it out of his status as a husband, as someone who has rights on her.

The last line, he is not just any guy but her husband so she thinks if he is probably exercising his rights as a husband just like how he stopped her from leaving the house or just like how she ran to hospital to take care of him or came to his house to take care of him.

It is at times like this, when he gets jealous and acts like a typical husband that she gets carried away with emotions for him and at the same time gets confused.


Anyway in the past, she had asked why he did it (Jasoosi of Aniket) expecting him to solve the puzzle but he has never clarified it, neither in the past nor now.

Some of what he speaks also makes it look like he is a controlling guy, not as a lover who is jealous. Her first question was that if she is a wife, can’t she have friends. She is aware of his family and their beliefs, thoughts and expectations, wonders if he also holds such views and if that is why he said she can’t be friends with a guy. Because, he had told her to follow the rules of the house, so she cooks, she returns home on time too, wants to ensure if he has expectations like that from her in this aspect too because all of those were also expected because she is his wife and bahu of the house.

Later, she asked him who she is to him but he didn’t answer that too. This guy has to answer in Saaf spasht words 🤦‍♀️.

Btw did you notice Sai’s reaction when Virat said that he has all rights to talk about whom she talks to, whom she meets or whom she befriends? She was happy that he said he has rights on her, it was something similar to how he exercised his rights on her as a husband and stopped her from leaving the house. All, she wants is that he tells her that, assures her that he sees her as his actual wife and the deal is no longer valid. You can see how happy she was to hear him say he has rights to tell these.


//He said guardian because I think 2 reasons: just few minutes before she reiterated that they didn’t marry each other by will. Second reason is he wanted to sound little authoritarian.🤭 and stop her seeing male friends. //

@bold He is unnerved by Sai declaring that she will cut all ties with him after some time - infact he is smiling - but when he is trying to get her to accept her feelings, he says he is her gaurdian?smiley44

The guy has to admit his feelings, it is high time. He was about to confess his feelings to her even in the birthday party venue when he pinned her to the wall but got interrupted by his mom. Ever since Sunny had asked him to find out about Sai’s feelings, he has lost track and is on this new mission. At that time he didn’t fear any rejection, in fact he wasn’t even aware of what Sai thinks about him, now he atleast doubts that she has feelings for him. Now, he has got distracted with his new mission so to stop himself from confessing, he cooked up something that he can use to show his authority. Calling her a responsibility won’t work when it comes to things like this where he wants to control her actions and that too about not to talk to or meet guys, hence he used the word guardian.

He was the one who shared about his commitment to Sai during the wedding, it is him who has a past, the onus is actually on him to clear the misunderstandings and tell Sai what he thinks of her and about their marriage. I think expecting her to realise her feelings especially by saying she could have left the house or she should move to hostel is only going to confuse Sai. It was him who stopped her from leaving so it didn’t even make sense for him to try to use that to make her think, but anyways she did start to think. She was also hurt which was quite visible in the morning when she asked him if he doesn’t know what he spoke. She even asked him the previous night if he wants her to leave. I feel this is all only going to create more confusion. Just like how he expects her to read his actions, I think he also needs to do that. He can see that she hasn’t realised her feelings yet but I hope in the future, he remembers what all she has done too. He shouldn’t let his insecurity win and assume that he means nothing to her.

About Sai, I read views of some people saying Sai should stop teasing about his age. At first, I thought it was an ordinary teasing but when I really gave it a thought, I felt that it could make Virat feel more insecure. She isn’t doing it to hurt him but she also is not aware that the teasing can lead into some thing serious. I am a tease myself but have learnt when to stop it or what to not tease about. My husband knows me well, knows well when I am teasing but there are certain things I can’t tease him with, they are sensitive about a few things. We ourselves are sensitive about a few things so it is with experience we learn when to stop and what to not tease with. Of course, we would never tease anyone by acting insensitive, even harmless teasing has to be kept in check.

If we take Sai too, if Virat starts to tease her with her looks or something, there are chances that she starts to develop some complex about her looks or worse can even compare with Pakhi and start to feel even more insecured. Forget looks, Virat jokes about her anger many times, there can be a time in the future when she can snap or she can get upset due to the situation at home which can add to her insecurity. It was already created by Virat using words like badtameezi many times or calling her immatured, calling Pakhi matured or samajhdhaar. The same way, the age teasing can one day become an issue. I feel that it will explode and only then she will get to know how it has affected him even though he tries to act confident or unaffected in front of her now. He even now shows that he has got offended but hasn’t shown it seriously to her. She is also doing it in a fun way, but I think once she gets to hear from him after he explodes, she will be able to address it, clear his insecurity about it, explain that his age doesn’t actually matter to her. It would be better if Sai notices him and stops or atleast reduces her teasing about his age even before it becomes an issue.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Wow just wow. That’s why you should write.👏

I specifically liked how you explained first two parts!
I just looked at current situation after he stopped her from leaving. But to understand Sai’s insecurities, we cannot ignore the day they decided to get married. The words he uttered are etched in her mind. Only his words again could erase them.


Yes high time he confesses. In KD it made sense to delay. But here as we know virat is too close to her to not say the words! But alas we can only wait.

I agree that sai sometimes sees pakhi as frustrated lover. Afterall she is kind hearted and matured, but her love( unexplained) for virat and her need for him puts her into this confusion. It is heart vs mind for her always. Unless she feels secure with virats love for her, she will act crazy with him 😳


Age insecurity plays major part here. They are like a generation apart. ( 5 years itself is a generation gap now a days) 😅. And virat knows she is exposed to men of her own age and probably similar mentalities. He also knows that she has her own mind and also courage to get what she wants. But he fails to see her as a woman who is unknowingly but willingly committed to him. You have explained the attraction and crush part very nicely. She has no choice but to fall for him, given that she is married to him. If it had been a bad guy, may be she will think about someone. But he is the guy whom she already respected and looked up to. Moreover they formed this strong emotional bond before their marriage. So it is inevitable that she will be atttacted to him! Her teasing virat shows her closeness to him but because she doesn’t know his feelings for her, she can’t gauge his disappointment.

Did you explain why he said guardian to her? I might have missed it.


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Originally posted by: laksh

My answers in Blue. Have just tried to answer it, not sure if I could really clear your doubts Nethra.

Text in black Sadiltl.

Text in red Nethraa.


//Sai loves virat but doesn’t realize it…She knows he cares for her, a lot! Then what is bothering her? I think she wants to hear that he loves her. They keep throwing at each other pati patni words… so they know what the words mean. By extension they also know what is lacking … physical and verbal expression. Sai witholds because virat declared ( verbally) his love to pakhi! It is a big thing for her because she doesn’t get the same for her from him. She CANNOT see his actions or willing to see his actions. She wants clear words. So she withholds.


Sai does seem to have a pretty idealistic view of love & marriage! 😳In GC, she asked Virat why he was marrying her....does he love her? I guess she wanted a yes! Even today, she doesn't say...." if ours had been a normal marriage"...instead she says, "if we had liked each other and decided to get married". Very romantic girl 😆. AND.....she actually takes Virat and Pakhi's love very, very seriously despite knowing it was some blink-and-miss romance at a yoga resort! 🤣

So then, if Virat had not confessed his love but just told her "we will give this marriage a chance"...what would have been her answer?

While her love-before-commitment notion is possible, I always felt that she was ready to accept her marriage from day 1 - until that ridiculous pyaar-dosti slip from vaada boy.

You are very right, her “if we had liked each other and got married” is coming because that is how she would have preferred it as. She had expected or secretly hoping something of that sort even in GC when he has proposed her when she didn’t even know what she felt for him. His deal and his commitment had put an end to whatever she was feeling or whatever could have got built in her heart. Every reply of hers like “I too don’t want to marry you” or “I too can’t be your wife” or “don’t expect anything from me too” or “I will leave once I become a doctor” were retorts to his proposal, to his deal. It was as a result of hurt that she felt back then and it was that hurt she kept carrying very very strictly so that she doesn’t get hurt again by him by developing any feelings for him even by mistake. It was that constant efforts from her side that made her always ignore everything that can look as if she meant something to him. She was very clear not to give in to any of his kind actions or any of his emotional bonding. The reason behind her rejecting his friendship was all because of the truth that she knew about his commitment that he had himself said which she has started to see in the form of Pakhi and Pakhi’s blatant love for Virat. Yeah, the pyar dosti slip up, his restlessness or anger he had shown after Pakhi left the house was the start where she had realised how important Pakhi actually is for him because until then it was only her assumption and she had only seen Pakhi asking him what she means to him on the terrace on the very first night of Sai’s in CN.

The reason she takes Virat Pakhi’s love very serious is because of the waada that Virat spoke about. The waada wasn’t a small one to give. We all know the history behind it but not Sai. Anyone giving such a big life long commitment would mean how serious the relationship must be or how important the person must be for them. It looks like an eternal love because of which a person decides to never fall for another girl again, never get settled in his life. The waada by itself speaks for how committed he must have been to Pakhi, how much he would have valued or felt for Pakhi that he gave such a big promise to her. People do have a past but they move on but in this case, he was willing to pledge his entire life for someone else which can only mean how strong his feelings for Pakhi would be. It is that realisation that makes Sai hold herself back, it is that realisation which is not letting her accept anything else from his side, it is this which makes her take their love story to be a very serious one and hence his words of reassurance alone would help her get rid of these thoughts.


//hugs are not considered romance here. Let’s get that straight in Ghum world. She thinks he is affectionate. The only kiss she knows is the party wala kiss which would have been erased by the following kaand. (That’s why don’t put unnecessary hugs and kisses and confuse us). So there is NO strong physical attraction perceived for her from virat! That’s adds to her insecurity. And hence jealousy for pakhi. Virat’s jealousy is clear. So not Discussing//

I think FD lost patience too soon and became restless for romance. ☺️Hugs are atleast passable, but the party kiss, forehead kiss, ladoo romance were confusing. Physical comfort could have been shown via sitting close, casual touches etc. Actually things were going perfectly before - no forced, out-of-place romance . The romantic scenes were added as fan service I guess. Yes, we enjoy it, but I guess it adds confusion.

During the party kiss or even the laddoo kiss, Sai had forgotten the deal part of their marriage. After she returned from the hospital, she realised the importance of him in her life, she started to show her care for him without any hesitation. Even though she said that she will leave, she started to act as his wife, ascertain rights too as his wife. She started to get comfortable with him, was soaking in those emotions, was enjoying their togetherness, his attention and was getting carried away too to his advances. She was brought back to reality after what she heard at the pool. She also did tell Virat right that it was not something that she wasn’t aware of but she had forgotten it for sometime. That was it. It was for this reason, especially the party kiss that Sai had told Virat that he can’t have both, he either needs to choose his commitment or his marriage.

Sai becomes emotional when it comes to Virat and his safety, she came back running to him and even in the hospital, let him pull her, she couldn’t imagine a life without him and got carried away. She always breaks or doesn’t hesitate to break the barriers when it comes to him not being around and his safety. She ran and hugged him when he said that he has accepted to go on the mission. The same way, she let it be when he was about to kiss her on her forehead. These are times when she knows she wants him and his safety, she also could have thought that just like her even he can get emotional and would have wanted to kiss her on her forehead before he leaves. His move didn’t give her time to think and she also didn’t mind she he was going on a mission. She somewhere starts to get the husband and wife feeling between them at times like this.

But that doesn’t last long since something else comes up which puts an end to this trance of hers. She was emotional at the time he was leaving even if she had said that she will let him do his duty, but as soon as the alarm rang, she was brought out of the trance. She felt shy and ran away. It is time like these that she must be thinking what she is doing. She must be in confusion as what she is doing and what Virat is also doing.

But Pakhi’s drama, his family not accepting her as their bahu disturbs Sai a lot. She gets into a turmoil. She fails to understand where they stand as a couple, what is her position in his life. Pakhi getting affected by Sai and Virat’s closeness in turn affects Sai a lot. She definitely feels pressurised as what she should do, whether she has come in between Virat and Pakhi, if they both would have got together if she had not entered his life, if she is the reason for Pakhi feeling miserable, to be acting this vile. It must be making Sai feel miserable that Pakhi keeps stooping low everyday only because Pakhi is not able to get into Virat’s life. I think somewhere Sai starts to blame herself to have in come in between them. It is as if, he was forced to take her responsibility which is not a hidden fact and she also has heard from him about his commitment, so I think, the feelings starts to look mutual between Virat and Pakhi whenever she sees that yearning in Pakhi, desperation, hurt, anger and hate in Pakhi. She does know that they shared a past and if not for her, they both would have had a chance to get reunited since Samrat has also not returned. His family liking Pakhi makes her feel that they will all look at Pakhi as an ideal wife of Virat and when Virat himself had once had feelings for her, it is just her who has become a hurdle in their life. She fights with Pakhi many a times when Pakhi creates issues when Virat feeds her or takes care of her or when Pakhi tries to show her rights on Virat. At times like those, Pakhi is not Virat’s wife, she starts to feel herself as Virat’s wife, her status is challenged by Pakhi which makes her fight for it, Pakhi also gets too unreasonable forcing her to show her her place. But sometimes Sai sees Pakhi as a hurt lover, she can look past Pakhi’s anger or hatred and can see a visibly hurt and a frustrated lover. It is this which brings in an insecurity within her because even though she is Virat’s wife, is not his love, as per her Pakhi is. Virat’s waada is a proof to it, she also heard it from Pakhi’s mouth at the pool too so Sai becomes weak, doesn’t know how to fight with a lover of her husband. She thinks she has no place in his heart and brings in many doubts within her about their relationship.

Things becomes worse when Pakhi and Virat’s thoughts matches like how she could immediately connect when Virat said “he was hurt”, to what Pakhi had said when she gave the pendant to Kaku. Virat’s jab tak tum iss ghar mein raho statement put her back to square one. One side it is Pakhi’s love and other side some or the other slip up from Virat pushes her away from him, makes her feel more insecured even when she starts to loosen up herself to him.

Other than these, we need to see that Virat is not only Sai’s husband, he is the only guy in her life whom she can look at or loosen up to or with whom she can get and is comfortable with. She is very young, has just entered college, be it her attraction or infatuation or crush or anything, it can only be him since she is already married. Sai knows her boundaries since she is a married girl and wouldn’t dare to look at any guy in that way, now if she has a crush on someone too, it would be Virat. She anyway had some unknown feelings or connection or attraction for him. She wanted him to stay back with her in GC after her Dad’s death even though she herself asked him not to step into her house. She needed his support and she did get some comfort from just his presence. Some of his physical touches or looks can also be her looking at him as an attraction or as her crush or as her infatuation or due to her own age. He happens to be her husband who has a past, so it is all messed up for her.


I am trying to analyze Virat's jealousy from the point-of-view of what Sai makes them out to be. Jealousy is a definite sign that someone is interested in you, if not in love with you. Virat missed Sai's jealousy for Pakhi because he misunderstood it as Sai-Pakhi not getting along. The moment he realized that Sai may be jealous, he began to hope that Sai has feelings for him. That is the kind of logical reason I'm looking for Sai - when Virat clearly shows he is jealous of guys she interacts with, surely she must know that Virat is being anything but platonic with her. I feel she does perceive his jealousy - in Amey's case, she tells him she won't mind him flirting with other girls, and in Aniket's case, she makes a sincere effort to let him know that he is just a friend. Even today, Virat made it obvious that he did. n't like her being friends with a guy. If a guy is jealous of somebody I talk to, it is obvious he is interested in me. So i find that logic missing in Sai's thinking - and it confuses me.

Virat could see Sai’s issues with Pakhi as jealousy only when Sunny told him about it. Sometimes we have a block in our head that wouldn’t let us think anything else. Virat also missed Sai’s jealousy for Pakhi because he has been thinking Sai can never like him, can never have feelings for him. It is the exact same thing that Sai also feels. She feels that Virat can never like her or have feelings for her. When Ashwini, Devi or Shivaji had told her too, she thought about it but always dismissed off that thought because according to her, they are overthinking, they have misunderstood and that it is not possible at all. The reason being what Virat told her during their marriage and also because she is now aware of their past which he hasn’t clearly cleared yet.

In Amay’s case I was surprised that she found the reason for his anger and so did she find in Aniket’s case too, but she looks at it as it is something coming from a spouse and not because he has feelings for her. She also gets jealous of Pakhi even when she keeps calling the marriage a deal, when she keeps saying she will leave the house and she also hasn’t realised her own feelings for Virat. She thinks his jealousy and anger to be similar to what she feels, he is doing it out of his status as a husband, as someone who has rights on her.

The last line, he is not just any guy but her husband so she thinks if he is probably exercising his rights as a husband just like how he stopped her from leaving the house or just like how she ran to hospital to take care of him or came to his house to take care of him.

It is at times like this, when he gets jealous and acts like a typical husband that she gets carried away with emotions for him and at the same time gets confused.


Anyway in the past, she had asked why he did it (Jasoosi of Aniket) expecting him to solve the puzzle but he has never clarified it, neither in the past nor now.

Some of what he speaks also makes it look like he is a controlling guy, not as a lover who is jealous. Her first question was that if she is a wife, can’t she have friends. She is aware of his family and their beliefs, thoughts and expectations, wonders if he also holds such views and if that is why he said she can’t be friends with a guy. Because, he had told her to follow the rules of the house, so she cooks, she returns home on time too, wants to ensure if he has expectations like that from her in this aspect too because all of those were also expected because she is his wife and bahu of the house.

Later, she asked him who she is to him but he didn’t answer that too. This guy has to answer in Saaf spasht words 🤦‍♀️.

Btw did you notice Sai’s reaction when Virat said that he has all rights to talk about whom she talks to, whom she meets or whom she befriends? She was happy that he said he has rights on her, it was something similar to how he exercised his rights on her as a husband and stopped her from leaving the house. All, she wants is that he tells her that, assures her that he sees her as his actual wife and the deal is no longer valid. You can see how happy she was to hear him say he has rights to tell these.


//He said guardian because I think 2 reasons: just few minutes before she reiterated that they didn’t marry each other by will. Second reason is he wanted to sound little authoritarian.🤭 and stop her seeing male friends. //

@bold He is unnerved by Sai declaring that she will cut all ties with him after some time - infact he is smiling - but when he is trying to get her to accept her feelings, he says he is her gaurdian?smiley44

The guy has to admit his feelings, it is high time. He was about to confess his feelings to her even in the birthday party venue when he pinned her to the wall but got interrupted by his mom. Ever since Sunny had asked him to find out about Sai’s feelings, he has lost track and is on this new mission. At that time he didn’t fear any rejection, in fact he wasn’t even aware of what Sai thinks about him, now he atleast doubts that she has feelings for him. Now, he has got distracted with his new mission so to stop himself from confessing, he cooked up something that he can use to show his authority. Calling her a responsibility won’t work when it comes to things like this where he wants to control her actions and that too about not to talk to or meet guys, hence he used the word guardian.

He was the one who shared about his commitment to Sai during the wedding, it is him who has a past, the onus is actually on him to clear the misunderstandings and tell Sai what he thinks of her and about their marriage. I think expecting her to realise her feelings especially by saying she could have left the house or she should move to hostel is only going to confuse Sai. It was him who stopped her from leaving so it didn’t even make sense for him to try to use that to make her think, but anyways she did start to think. She was also hurt which was quite visible in the morning when she asked him if he doesn’t know what he spoke. She even asked him the previous night if he wants her to leave. I feel this is all only going to create more confusion. Just like how he expects her to read his actions, I think he also needs to do that. He can see that she hasn’t realised her feelings yet but I hope in the future, he remembers what all she has done too. He shouldn’t let his insecurity win and assume that he means nothing to her.

About Sai, I read views of some people saying Sai should stop teasing about his age. At first, I thought it was an ordinary teasing but when I really gave it a thought, I felt that it could make Virat feel more insecure. She isn’t doing it to hurt him but she also is not aware that the teasing can lead into some thing serious. I am a tease myself but have learnt when to stop it or what to not tease about. My husband knows me well, knows well when I am teasing but there are certain things I can’t tease him with, they are sensitive about a few things. We ourselves are sensitive about a few things so it is with experience we learn when to stop and what to not tease with. Of course, we would never tease anyone by acting insensitive, even harmless teasing has to be kept in check.

If we take Sai too, if Virat starts to tease her with her looks or something, there are chances that she starts to develop some complex about her looks or worse can even compare with Pakhi and start to feel even more insecured. Forget looks, Virat jokes about her anger many times, there can be a time in the future when she can snap or she can get upset due to the situation at home which can add to her insecurity. It was already created by Virat using words like badtameezi many times or calling her immatured, calling Pakhi matured or samajhdhaar. The same way, the age teasing can one day become an issue. I feel that it will explode and only then she will get to know how it has affected him even though he tries to act confident or unaffected in front of her now. He even now shows that he has got offended but hasn’t shown it seriously to her. She is also doing it in a fun way, but I think once she gets to hear from him after he explodes, she will be able to address it, clear his insecurity about it, explain that his age doesn’t actually matter to her. It would be better if Sai notices him and stops or atleast reduces her teasing about his age even before it becomes an issue.

Good discussion here..

Even I mentioned yesterday how Sai's teasing Virat on his looks ..his age..accompanied with her praising Ajinkya is going to bring out the worst in him and contribute to his outburst or lack of trust in her.. Because in his head she does not like him..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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laksh


Beautiful post.

Could you explain why he said guardian ? Saiditi also asked I think. Just want to know why he said so.

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Originally posted by: laksh

The guy has to admit his feelings, it is high time. He was about to confess his feelings to her even in the birthday party venue when he pinned her to the wall but got interrupted by his mom. Ever since Sunny had asked him to find out about Sai’s feelings, he has lost track and is on this new mission. At that time he didn’t fear any rejection, in fact he wasn’t even aware of what Sai thinks about him, now he atleast doubts that she has feelings for him. Now, he has got distracted with his new mission so to stop himself from confessing, he cooked up something that he can use to show his authority. Calling her a responsibility won’t work when it comes to things like this where he wants to control her actions and that too about not to talk to or meet guys, hence he used the word guardian.

Answer to your question on "guardian" comment.

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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Answer to your question on "guardian" comment.

Thanks!

i also think he used it because it sounds authoritative 🤭


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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Answer to your question on "guardian" comment.

Got it. Thank you.
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OMG! Beautiful post ❤️.

Just a few reactions to your post...

I agree that Sai perceives "a hurt lover" behind Pakhi's aggression towards her. She sees that Pakhi's anger against her is born of disappointment, hurt and desperation.(Sai's POV). So while she gets insecure seeing the 'jealous lover' in Pakhi, somewhere deep inside it also evokes her sympathy, and perhaps self-blame (that she is the wall standing between Virakhi).

Loved your take on how Sai perceives Virat's jealousy - as coming from a spouse and not as a lover. While their marriage is a contract with an expiry date, it is not an 'open marriage' and both are aware and keen to keep the basic 'maryada' of the deal wedding till the time it lasts. So Sai may easily perceive his jealousy as coming from that expectation - and with her mind already made up about him being in love with Pakhi - it would be easy to overlook some telltale signs. In the initial days of marriage, even Virat thought Sai did not like him speaking to Pakhi as coming from the same expectation.

I understand that Sai sometimes forgets the deal part and gets carried away with her feelings - when she too almost gives in to his advances (laddoo romance and party kiss). I agree she gets confused about her reaction as well as Virat's during these vulnerable moments. But I don't see her dwelling or introspecting on it. For anyone, someone (even a husband) making a physical advance would be a huge deal - she may have given in to the moment but what about Virat? Virat - whom she believes is committed to Pakhi and whose integrity she trusts - won't she question why he was getting physically intimate?

As for confession, I think CVs are just buying time. Virat was looking to confess twice before - once during Holi and another during Harinee birthday. There was no fear of rejection then - when had no inkling of Sai's feelings. Now atleast he suspects Sai's interest. Honestly speaking his confession during holi did come out of the blue - till that time he was shown to be terribly fearful of rejection. I think Virat's realization of love came too early into the story (Holi) - but it was a deliberate move in order to give some context to Virat's actions during the ousting kaand. So now they don't know how to delay the confession. Hence the convoluted plot of Virat trying to ascertain Sai's feelings.

As for Sai teasing Virat about his age - I don't think Sai would not have made the comment if Virat was a romantic partner nor would Virat have been sensitive about it if he did not have romantic feelings for her. Since his feelings are unknown to her, she was just pulling his leg as a friend.

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I think even as wife, Sai won't stop teasing him . Thats their jam. Shes mischievous, likes to tease n joke. So its not meant in a negative way. I wouldn't want her to stop teasing him. Its what makes them unique. Virat teases her in return too. I love that vibe they have of joking/banter

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