ANALYSIS! Arnav's Acceptance of Contract Marriage *New* Pg 11 | Oct 5 - Page 8

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

True, but I think its not just Anjali, even Akash and Payal were shown to be so clueless about things (I guess it was important for the Arnav-Khushi love story ) but.. Na payal ko apni behen ka koi hosh hi nahi hai. Its just so weird when Arnav gets kidnapped, Akash is just so overwhelmed with work.. being the second elder man of the house.. usse kuch na ho paya.. Maami is still smarter than him!

Probably, they were used as props too.

Haha Akash was just a yr or two younger so he should work as Arnav did but Nani so worried that he's over worked and doesn't get time to enjoy and wanted him Payal to get private time but no one ever considered that how much over worked Arnav was to tell him to spend time with Khushi especially after kidnap. Akash was a jerk post kidnap and Payal didn't even give how Khushi must be dealing with snake's presence till it was all revealed and even after that she was upset with Khushi. Though Payal stood up for herself when Akash went overboard

That's why as an elder sister I always found Payal was more protective of Khushi than Anjali was of Arnav even though Khushi wasn't her real sister.

She can't make sacrifice for anyone

True anyone except her Snakewa

Originally posted by: IPodcastKKND

Yes one thing over here that bothered me a lot is Arnav had to be the adult in a lot of scenarios while the other adults did nothing. In the beginning of the show we had Nani, Mami and even at times Mama makes some key decisions regarding the household but after a point it's just Arnav doing everything.

There might be two reasons for it:

1) With age and time Arnav assumes full responsibility and refuses to shoulder it with anyone - he does not allow anyone else to bear the burden with him.

2) Arnav is the hero of the show therefore everything is catered and written according to his decisions and actions so even though it would make more sense for others to step in. So clearly roles that in real life other people would take, they're all given to him.

Totally agreed!

Anjali was gaslighted and in a terrible marriage. She showed signs of a person in an abusive marriage - from extreme dependency to doing everything to keep her marriage perfect. At no point would she explore the cracks of her marriage (cracks she knew were there) for the fear of what if something turns out to be bad.

She accepts it later in the show that despite knowing something else she chose to preserve her marriage given her past trauma - as you said. @bold yes!

I don't think she was a bad wife - we're given the knowledge that Shyam is fishy, Anjali has an inkling but the writers didn't dive into her inkling cause they wanted to stretch the Shyam track as long as they could and Anjali's belief in Shyam was the biggest asset Shyam had warna the show would be over rather quickly.

Yes, I believe the Shyam track had to be stretched to keep the story going.

But that made Anjali's characterisation a bit unrealistic. She kept advising people on relationships and yet, I felt that she didn't really understand what marriage meant. Shyam was exploiting her and was extremely cunning, but its not like his behaviour wasn't fishy at all. Also, I think one has to take some responsibility for their own life in the end. Arnav was here at fault too - why did he make money transfers to their joint back account? It kind of sends a wrong message. This is something I have seen in real life - say if you are getting married to someone/ or already married and if someone flaunts their wealth or keeps giving expensive gifts/ money from the very beginning itself ...you are bound to get into trouble. One has to be careful with money matters - especially when there is a huge wealth gap between the couple - one can attract people for the wrong reasons.

The constant absences were the biggest red flags of all, I'm pretty sure she must have seen the same pattern with her father. She wasn't that young at the time after all.

Its quite strange how both siblings are different because of their past - Arnav doesn't want to trust anyone and believe in love, Anjali becomes totally needy.

Post kidnapping Anjali is under a lot of trauma - I don't blame her. The people I DON'T get are Akash and Mami. They worsen the situation and I genuinely hated Mami then. She is not traumatized, yet she goes around yelling "Khushi is responsible for this!!!" Like how???

Her accusations made no sense but I have actually seen people like that IRL.😆

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Originally posted by: renee.bee

True, but I think its not just Anjali, even Akash and Payal were shown to be so clueless about things (I guess it was important for the Arnav-Khushi love story ) but.. Na payal ko apni behen ka koi hosh hi nahi hai. Its just so weird when Arnav gets kidnapped, Akash is just so overwhelmed with work.. being the second elder man of the house.. usse kuch na ho paya.. Maami is still smarter than him!

Probably, they were used as props too.

Haha Akash was just a yr or two younger so he should work as Arnav did but Nani so worried that he's over worked and doesn't get time to enjoy and wanted him Payal to get private time but no one ever considered that how much over worked Arnav was to tell him to spend time with Khushi especially after kidnap. Akash was a jerk post kidnap and Payal didn't even give how Khushi must be dealing with snake's presence till it was all revealed and even after that she was upset with Khushi. Though Payal stood up for herself when Akash went overboard

That's why as an elder sister I always found Payal was more protective of Khushi than Anjali was of Arnav even though Khushi wasn't her real sister.

She can't make sacrifice for anyone

True anyone except her Snakewa

I think, they got so used to Arnav taking responsibility that they started taking him for granted.

Payalia.. well. After marriage her world started revolving around Akash.😆

The difference between Payal and Anjali was that Payal was still more mature compared to Anjali..

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

I think, they got so used to Arnav taking responsibility that they started taking him for granted.

True. He was an ATM machine for them that's all.

Payalia.. well. After marriage her world started revolving around Akash.😆

The difference between Payal and Anjali was that Payal was still more mature compared to Anjali..

True Payal was more sensible and mature.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

I’m also rewatching the old episodes again! I didn’t give Arnav’s behaviour much thought at the time too because I was too young to understand.

I totally agree with you, but I also feel that he was also punishing himself in someway while tying himself to Khushi - he couldn’t let her go and it was painful for him to look at her all the time. Sometimes love is like that, it pains us and we can’t let it go. Same with Khushi, he was horrible with her and out her through hell, but she could never really hate him. She could see his pain and suffering through the hatred.

It’s not an easy thing to do, we can see a glimpse of intense feelings he has for the people he loves. It’s self destructive. No wonder he put walls around him, the moment he started to open up, his world was shattered all over again.

Hi Alakh,

Nice to meet you. I’m only just seeing your reply.

Yes I totally agree with your last paragraph. Arnav is definitely one of those character that loves hard.

I wonder if the team will do anything for the 10 year anniversary.

Originally posted by: IPodcastKKND

I think Arnav wanted Anjali to feel connected to his and Khushi’s relationship? Or tell her that he too misunderstood Khushi hence he couldn’t love her until he made a judgement and understood Khushi? Or that he wasn’t blind in love and didn’t have his love story handed to him?

And I think at times you gain trust from people by sharing secrets with them. There was a breach of trust when Arnav refused to tell his sister why he suddenly married Khushi thus sharing this might lead to more trust between the siblings.

If Arnav shared his heartbreak over what Shyam was - I do think Anjali could begin to see through Shyam.

Is he not putting khushi in a bad light here ? Doesn’t this make Anjali believe that khushi could have been chasing her husband and Arnav stopped it by marrying her?

No, he clearly states it was a misunderstanding. But yeah, Anjali still has her reservations against Khushi.

I have been waiting to have enough time to be able to properly respond to this!! been way too longggg!

I think Anjali's character for the most part had a strong foundation which really gives us an insight into why her character reacted the way she did despite the track of her reacting to the situation being mishandled. She's older, she lauded as someone wise, someone accepting, someone super warm and inviting, someone trusting, but she's sheltered, she's idealistic whose sheltered upbringing and adults around her assuring her of how she's right, validated, and everything terrible happening to her is not her fault helps us kind some what of her psyche. My problem with the track and how it proceeded was that Anjali whilst being pampered and physically being taken care of, had her emotional trauma completely ignored once again.

We see time and time again Raizada's doing their best to brush past the past and not deal with it at all in any capacity. They don't want to remember the ugly. Anjali embodies that tendency much more where as Arnav stands in contrast because he sees no value in maintaining hypocritical politeness about hurt and pain the people outside of his mother's family caused him or cause him.

the small conversation between Arnav and Anjali after she complains that everything changed the minute he stopped giving her answers should've been longer but the flicker in Arnav's eyes as he understood how his Di felt threatened by Khushi and Khushi's space was so instrumental and brilliant acting by Sobti. The nuances of Arnav's thought processes are always reflected in his eyes and him realising what kind of mess Anjali was in, him also being the only person to understand that! I love how he holds her hands and looks at their hands instead of at Anjali while telling her how he misunderstood Khushi before.

I think telling Anjali about him assuming different of Khushi was him kind of assuring her, and continuing to validate her misconceptions. He didn't want to outright display his shock at his Di being either insecure or disliking someone. He wanted her to know that he made a mistake too of not trusting Khushi, but trusting Khushi had nothing to do with Anjali but how he missed the opportunity to figure out the truth with his misassumption. I think when telling Anjali that Khushi wasn't important until after marriage, he truly understands for the first time how his sister has placed people in rankings per their value. Anjali, who wants everything done particularly, her way, made Arnav do all the after marriage rasams so she could be the reason Khushi is accepted, not Arnav's anger; she who needs to be well-liked and lauded for her inviting personality did not like one bit when the outside persona she had built for herself as the rest of the Raizadas have as well, came crashing down. Not sure if I am making sense so far, but I think Arnav realised that in that second where he connected the dots of her being insecure of Khushi, and thinking people in Arnav's life are also only appreciated based on how much they are agreeable or disagreeable to him; that she needed to know that as much as her inhibitions are valid, they are also something she'll have to let go of. He tries his best in that moment to explain that it was Khushi he didn't give a chance to, but he gave one to Shyam.

I think we needed another conversation like that, except we got him feeding badaam kheer to her which in a way was him showing that he will be here regardless of others.

I think even if Arnav had remembered the fiancé Khushi had, it would've added an interesting dynamic to him refusing to accept Khushi being logical but I think the breaking of Shyam's facade really started the journey of Raizada's in acknowledging that there own facades of a happy family and all of them keeping up with each other are fragile.

Arnav's consistent reliving the pain of the past and using it as a fuel for being competitive and being successful actually helped Arnav come to terms with his past faster than it did with Anjali. I think if Shyam hadn't been present at the wedding, Anjali would've broken that day as well but she didn't care for past because her current facade and illusion of a happy partnership was back up. As much as Anjali on occasions proved to be ASR's sister, she also reinforced the narrative Arnav observed in their mother, of giving her all to the person they love regardless of the destructive outcome,

I think their conversations about their mother show that distinction in their interpretation of their pasts. Arnav asks her to not leave him like Maa did. Maa valued the unhappiness caused by her liar and cheating husband more than the happiness her children could've given. Anjali would also talk about Shyam in terms of being unable to breathe. Ironic how it was Arnav who ran away from that type of love ended up finding a perfect partner to live out the dream his sister and mother had for themselves as well.

Shyam was good at recognising Raizdas flaws. After all, they kept saying he did so much for them when all he did was always remind them how much they owe him whilst he was the one trying to empty out their bank accounts. Manz was great at gaslighting.

Shyam's own confession breaking Anjali's illusion is good in her understanding that Shyam indeed was given a chance and her stubbornness to keep meeting him was what led her to losing an ounce of respect for the man she felt butterflies for.

Originally posted by: dramebaaz.af

I have been waiting to have enough time to be able to properly respond to this!! been way too longggg!

I think Anjali's character for the most part had a strong foundation which really gives us an insight into why her character reacted the way she did despite the track of her reacting to the situation being mishandled. She's older, she lauded as someone wise, someone accepting, someone super warm and inviting, someone trusting, but she's sheltered, she's idealistic whose sheltered upbringing and adults around her assuring her of how she's right, validated, and everything terrible happening to her is not her fault helps us kind some what of her psyche. My problem with the track and how it proceeded was that Anjali whilst being pampered and physically being taken care of, had her emotional trauma completely ignored once again.

We see time and time again Raizada's doing their best to brush past the past and not deal with it at all in any capacity. They don't want to remember the ugly. Anjali embodies that tendency much more where as Arnav stands in contrast because he sees no value in maintaining hypocritical politeness about hurt and pain the people outside of his mother's family caused him or cause him.

the small conversation between Arnav and Anjali after she complains that everything changed the minute he stopped giving her answers should've been longer but the flicker in Arnav's eyes as he understood how his Di felt threatened by Khushi and Khushi's space was so instrumental and brilliant acting by Sobti. The nuances of Arnav's thought processes are always reflected in his eyes and him realising what kind of mess Anjali was in, him also being the only person to understand that! I love how he holds her hands and looks at their hands instead of at Anjali while telling her how he misunderstood Khushi before.

I think telling Anjali about him assuming different of Khushi was him kind of assuring her, and continuing to validate her misconceptions. He didn't want to outright display his shock at his Di being either insecure or disliking someone. He wanted her to know that he made a mistake too of not trusting Khushi, but trusting Khushi had nothing to do with Anjali but how he missed the opportunity to figure out the truth with his misassumption. I think when telling Anjali that Khushi wasn't important until after marriage, he truly understands for the first time how his sister has placed people in rankings per their value. Anjali, who wants everything done particularly, her way, made Arnav do all the after marriage rasams so she could be the reason Khushi is accepted, not Arnav's anger; she who needs to be well-liked and lauded for her inviting personality did not like one bit when the outside persona she had built for herself as the rest of the Raizadas have as well, came crashing down. Not sure if I am making sense so far, but I think Arnav realised that in that second where he connected the dots of her being insecure of Khushi, and thinking people in Arnav's life are also only appreciated based on how much they are agreeable or disagreeable to him; that she needed to know that as much as her inhibitions are valid, they are also something she'll have to let go of. He tries his best in that moment to explain that it was Khushi he didn't give a chance to, but he gave one to Shyam.

I think we needed another conversation like that, except we got him feeding badaam kheer to her which in a way was him showing that he will be here regardless of others.

I think even if Arnav had remembered the fiancé Khushi had, it would've added an interesting dynamic to him refusing to accept Khushi being logical but I think the breaking of Shyam's facade really started the journey of Raizada's in acknowledging that there own facades of a happy family and all of them keeping up with each other are fragile.

Arnav's consistent reliving the pain of the past and using it as a fuel for being competitive and being successful actually helped Arnav come to terms with his past faster than it did with Anjali. I think if Shyam hadn't been present at the wedding, Anjali would've broken that day as well but she didn't care for past because her current facade and illusion of a happy partnership was back up. As much as Anjali on occasions proved to be ASR's sister, she also reinforced the narrative Arnav observed in their mother, of giving her all to the person they love regardless of the destructive outcome,

I think their conversations about their mother show that distinction in their interpretation of their pasts. Arnav asks her to not leave him like Maa did. Maa valued the unhappiness caused by her liar and cheating husband more than the happiness her children could've given. Anjali would also talk about Shyam in terms of being unable to breathe. Ironic how it was Arnav who ran away from that type of love ended up finding a perfect partner to live out the dream his sister and mother had for themselves as well.

Shyam was good at recognising Raizdas flaws. After all, they kept saying he did so much for them when all he did was always remind them how much they owe him whilst he was the one trying to empty out their bank accounts. Manz was great at gaslighting.

Shyam's own confession breaking Anjali's illusion is good in her understanding that Shyam indeed was given a chance and her stubbornness to keep meeting him was what led her to losing an ounce of respect for the man she felt butterflies for.

Also, I just want to stress the he told Anjali that love had nothing to do with his marriage to Khushi, that it had developed later— that's a white lie if I ever heard one.

Arnav knew Khushi's feelings way better than she did even whilst he was with La. I think he felt more betrayed by the fact that Khushi could engage with Shyam despite their feelings for each other (for money?) Love had everything to do with it. Iss pyaar me sacch aur jhooth Ka koi matlab Nahi. He could barely acknowledge that to himself before the kidnapping.

So, he just omitted that entire fact. Yet, I like how he did not trivialise Khushi's place in his life to appease Anjali

Originally posted by: Bluegrass

Also, I just want to stress the he told Anjali that love had nothing to do with his marriage to Khushi, that it had developed later— that's a white lie if I ever heard one.

Arnav knew Khushi's feelings way better than she did even whilst he was with La. I think he felt more betrayed by the fact that Khushi could engage with Shyam despite their feelings for each other (for money?) Love had everything to do with it. Iss pyaar me sacch aur jhooth Ka koi matlab Nahi. He could barely acknowledge that to himself before the kidnapping.

So, he just omitted that entire fact. Yet, I like how he did not trivialise Khushi's place in his life to appease Anjali

I love how whenever Arnav lies to amine, he looks away for a brief second to compose himself and he did exactly that with not sharing when he fell in love with Khushi. If Anjali's memory hadn't betrayed her with Shyam gone, she probably would've remembered his and Khushi's interactions after Payal and Akash's mehindi! The fact that this mans knew he was very much in love, knew what to tell Khushi to identify her own feelings and then goes ahead with like ah no its all good Di, my love's definition fits the one you provided so you did everything! ahhh the raizadas validating Anjali and then slowly nudging her away!

@bold, that's the best part of Arnav and Anjali's relationship from Arnav's perspective because he doesn't cover things up for his sister which other members feel more inclined to do so just to ease the pain. I think it's incredibly important for him as well to make sure everyone in the family understands how much Khushi means to him and what place she holds. Him arguing with dadi for Khushi makes it clear that he really will not tolerate anyone else mistreating Khushi.

@ the red part, yes yes yes! every decision he made regarding khushi had everything to do with love and as much as he understood it, he tried to walk away from it because just as he had started being ok, he misunderstood with Shyam scenario but after she fell off the cliff, he was like nah I am not letting you go! ☺️

Arnav's Acceptance of Contract Marriage

Hey everyone,

So sorry for the 3 months hiatus but I'm back with a new analysis. Hope my answer makes some sense! A few weeks ago one of my friends had asked;

• What do you think about Arnav’s stand about his contract marriage? At what point do you think he starts believing it as the real deal and not a contract? His seems to get into his husband avatar almost immediately, even before Khushi’s revelation and the suicide! What about Khushi? When do u think she starts believing herself as Arnav’s wife in spite of her hurt and anger?
  

My answer:

I think Arnav and Khushi both believed this marriage to be real. The duration, conditions and views on that marriage though was different. From the minute they’re married Arnav often emphasizes it to himself and to others that she is his wife and is basically exerting a level of possession and right. Not that it’s the right behavior, but Arnav was making multiple mistakes at that time and this is one of them.

Likewise Khushi also often exerts this right on Arnav and to others that he’s her husband. For her it’s less about possession though because it’s not what she had imagined. And she usually states her marital status when someone else challenges it - like Shyam. The duration of this marriage though is what Khushi keeps in her mind and Arnav, after a point, doesn’t.

I think Arnav internally didn’t want Khushi to leave so he delayed a lot of things about confronting Shyam or prepping the house for the truth. But I’d say when Khushi tells him the truth and he gets kidnapped he accepts his emotions because he said he loves her and he means it. His emotions no longer feels wrong because in a way he does believe everything Khushi told him.

And as a very internal person he went through his guilt, acceptance, love and all and just knew that he and Khushi are going to stay married forever (post kidnapping) because he knows they both want that.

Now here is where things are different.

Even though Arnav has communicated his love and all, he hasn’t communicated what the marriage is for him to Khushi. And Khushi knows marriage doesn’t mean love for Arnav.

So post kidnapping she had hoped for trust and got love, and Arnav’s hint of future probably made her confident that this relationship goes beyond six months but in his rage when he talks again about the contract she ceases to give any validity to the marriage.

And that is what Arnav had not anticipated. He didn’t realize that she would see the six months as the six months (for which he deserves a lot more yelling) and realizes there’s a lot he needs to fix.

Funny thing, Khushi doesn’t say “I’m not your wife,” rather she says “you’re not my husband” and I find that incredibly interesting! I think she believes in its validity when Arnav gives her those heartwarming gifts and when he finally confesses love.

I believe in a strange way all Arnav needed was to know that Khushi was innocent - and he’s like "cool we’re going to stay married cause anyways we wanted that". But Khushi needed solid words from him that what he wants is a long term commitment with her that is stemmed from love.

Makes sense?

In short:

Both knew and believed they were each other’s spouse. But it stemmed on distrust, pain, possession, lost love and knew that it’ll end in 6 months. Arnav was reluctant about the six months, Khushi engraved those six months in her mind (she would’ve found it difficult to remarry if ever but she wouldn’t stay with him post 6 months).

During kidnapping Arnav realized his shit and finally accepted that he wanted a hamesha, Khushi could only believe in that hamesha post “I love you damn it” cause for her true marriage was based on true love (so she believed it to be part true cause she knew she loved him so the marriage was true to her in some ways, but for a marriage to last it should be reciprocal).

In shorter:

Arnav’s “Khushi I love you” revealed his acceptance of his love and marriage in all ways.

And Arnav’s “I love you damn it,” sealed Khushi’s faith in this marriage and it’s forever longevity.

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I hope you all liked this analysis! Feel free to send in your opinions and versions of events.

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