Are they serious? Time to up their game!! - Page 3

Originally posted by: _charu_

That's a good rant 👏

Adding to it ,I am not liking virat , as a character but of late , the way Neil has been playing virat is more annoying than anything else..he gives me ram from ramayan vibes..maryada purshottam ..that's not a compliment 😔 n kya contrast hai , from the time he threw sai out of the house !

I agree. even I am not able to relate with him. It is getting difficult to appreciate this roop of his. Why not making him look realistic?

Are they trying to show him doing all this out of guilt? It will not do any good actually, he will do things which he would have otherwise not done to keep pleasing Sai. It wouldn’t bring out his natural reaction, his natural self 🤦‍♀️

Secondly I am tired of watching 1 scene per episode 🤢 One argument is dragged for 20 mins..like..don't these ppl.get tired standing there at one place place argue? Itne lambe scene ke I closed the app midway..couldn't complete the episode. Ek hi baat hai jo repeat.karte rehte hain

Oh god, I can’t forget how Neil said that they will make it 1000 on the 100th episode celebration 🤣. Looks like they will do anything to make that happen. Chewing gum episodes.

Coming to the story devi tai track was a disaster..period....I want them to get done with it , if it's harinis bday that will put a full stop to it, I will take it.

True

Everyone..literally everyone was a let down in this track. If they plan to repeat it in the future tracks, I may not be interested at all. Basically everyone acted out of their characters and it ended wth them compromising with everything they stood up for.

Highly disappointing

I didn't expect much from them , but yes ,on itv , family and family values and staying together , forgiving, putting elders on a pedestal , is normal. Virat wouldn't put them behind bars (he can't charge them unless devi or pulkit complain) , virat won't keep distance (roz.ke family drama scene kaise hoge?) , sai can't leave for the same reason , so the best solution they came up with?forgive forget and move on as no punishment can change the past 🤢 Kaku getting exposed was insulting enuf , the matriarch has to be put on a pedestal for future trCks 🤢

Very true 😡

Sorry, I wasn’t around, just replying to all comments and tags. Hope we get something good in the future atleast. They have to focus on the main leads atleast.

Originally posted by: Nja91

Saare expectations toot chuke hai. Donon leads ko kaafi butcer kiya hai. Logic toh hai nahi.

Now i will only watch for Sairat scenes and didi beizzati and if those scenes are not good enough then gradually will likely stop watching. I'm still hoping that atleast Sairat scenes leading up to confession will be decent like they have until now.

In between all the nonsense spewed the only good moment in the recent episode was how Virat said Sai always supports the truth and cares about the family and the tender look he gives her before the unceremonious interruption by pp.

I agree, they have butchered the characters. Absolutely no logic. I love your posts that says how we should let go of logic or some expectations. It is like a constant reminder that one should stop having expectations from the makers especially Ghum CVS.

I am also looking forward to watch Sairat scenes especially until confession. I am losing patience with the way they are trying to portray Virat, if they continue to do it, might stop watching. He is one character whom I could understand from the start and now I am not able to relate to him. If not for anything, they should stop showing crying or getting upset about everything. I am not against men crying, I don’t understand anyone crying like this. I would like people to face situations in a better way. Crying is to let out one’s emotions and I would be able to empathise with him if he does that but not at all times, not at times when he has to act.

As you are saying, they are trying to show some good scenes. I am happy that audience like you are trying to make it bearable through your comments, making me look at it again, otherwise I am not even able to enjoy such scenes too these days.

Sorry for the late reply , I started to look at all comments and tags just sometime ago. Almost missed your comment 🙈.

Originally posted by: laksh

I agree, they have butchered the characters. Absolutely no logic. I love your posts that says how we should let go of logic or some expectations. It is like a constant reminder that one should stop having expectations from the makers especially Ghum CVS.

I am also looking forward to watch Sairat scenes especially until confession. I am losing patience with the way they are trying to portray Virat, if they continue to do it, might stop watching. He is one character whom I could understand from the start and now I am not able to relate to him. If not for anything, they should stop showing crying or getting upset about everything. I am not against men crying, I don’t understand anyone crying like this. I would like people to face situations in a better way. Crying is to let out one’s emotions and I would be able to empathise with him if he does that but not at all times, not at times when he has to act.

As you are saying, they are trying to show some good scenes. I am happy that audience like you are trying to make it bearable through your comments, making me look at it again, otherwise I am not even able to enjoy such scenes too these days.

Sorry for the late reply , I started to look at all comments and tags just sometime ago. Almost missed your comment 🙈.

We as audience get attached. We want an intelligent show that we can relate to. Unfortunately itv mein yeh kaafi ration karke thoda thoda hi milta hai. In between all the ludicrous stuff, the Sairat scenes- standalone are still good. The pp beizzati is still satisfying to watch! So basically these moments help me forget the larger picture. Because itv mein logic aur intelligence toh exist nahi karte. So we should just enjoy Sairat. God forbid if they ruin that with such crappy writing that even Sairat cannot make us connect then many of us will stop watching🤷 like if you forget the fact that this whole birthday skit is utterly idiotic, then you can watch the Sairat scenes today and enjoy it. 😂😂

Originally posted by: Nja91

We as audience get attached. We want an intelligent show that we can relate to. Unfortunately itv mein yeh kaafi ration karke thoda thoda hi milta hai. In between all the ludicrous stuff, the Sairat scenes- standalone are still good. The pp beizzati is still satisfying to watch! So basically these moments help me forget the larger picture. Because itv mein logic aur intelligence toh exist nahi karte. So we should just enjoy Sairat. God forbid if they ruin that with such crappy writing that even Sairat cannot make us connect then many of us will stop watching🤷 like if you forget the fact that this whole birthday skit is utterly idiotic, then you can watch the Sairat scenes today and enjoy it. 😂😂

True, very soon I will watch Sairat scenes alone in Insta than on hotspot without actually following even their story 🤣🤣. Sai looked too cute in the precap btw , wish they could give her such hairstyle. I loved her hairstyle in GC track too.

I guess even today’s episode was good, I mean let’s forget the whole bday party and family, Sairat scenes, Mohit Karishma Sairat scene and even Ashwini Sonali scenes were good. I haven’t watched Sonali Ashwini scene but watched the other two in Insta. Let’s get satisfied with only those.

As you said let’s enjoy until they give us something good to watch since we anyway started to watch it for only them 🤣. I am going to even forget what their professions are or what they are studying 🤣. That is even more horrible 🤦‍♀️.

I started on the show from the moment it was launched due to the concept.

I was a regular viewer then.

Now I just go through WU.

The entire premise is vandalised. Don't get me started on Virat. He is one of the most despicable ML I have ever seen.

I say this because he was sold to the audience as someone who conformed to a pedestal. Here he is falling lower and lower.

If this was the planning, they should have never launched him as a justice adhering person. It brings bad name to all the IPS officers.

And Sai.. the bright fiery Sai is withering too😓

This was my worst nightmare for the show. The day Sai loses her integrity, I am just going to wave a bye to this thing. Toxic Chavans are not a regular meal.

I so miss the Gadhchiroli episodes. They were the best. The Virat that would directly say no to bribe and his integrity 😍

- Niki

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

It's alright to rant. My blood is still boiling. Devyani's past was chilling and disturbing. How dare the makers trivialize such a grave crime? It happens in urban, middle class families and it is not a a fodder for drama. What has the maker's education taught them? If you cannot handle such serious issues, simple - don't include them. Or change them.

@bold very very true

Bhavani - Like you said, all of a sudden she was sad to see her daughter in takleef. Never mind that we did not see even basic empathy for Devyani for 200 episodes, she was wrongly given sedatives, and the same mother did not really bother about her daughter's safety after DevKit wedding and was infact rejoicing over Sai's ousting. If we question the makers with such logic, they will start explaining about onions & layers and the 50 shades of grey of Bhavani.

We have to remove a few circuits from our brain while watching I guess.

Virat - The most infuriating part is they constantly pull the standards for Virat down - and we compromise - we try to explain (not justify) his actions (& his flaws) using psychology and what not - only for his character to be pulled down even more.

Why are they doing it to a lead character?

As I have been saying, I find Virat's redemption to be incomplete. The repentance was genuine but it was based on whether Sai was right or wrong. No matter how badly I wanted him to introspect on his reactions independent of Sai's actions (because they were inhuman), I resigned myself to never seeing it being addressed. Nor were we likely to see an emotional conversation between SaiRat regarding the same - everything was to be covered up with romance. I also accepted that even though these things were never explicitly shown, we have to assume that lessons were learnt from the subtext of the scenes that were shown (courtesy: @nja91)

True 😒

Regarding his return from GC, like you, all I wanted was for him to be distant, aloof from his family. He was like that for about 2 episodes and then he suffered amnesia. I was not even looking for a 180 deg changed Virat who will always jump in to defend his wife - old habits die hard. He took baby steps - in being firm with his elders that Sai is his wife and she always speaks the truth, unlike previously he didn't stop/scold Sai for defending herself, he seemed to be learning to trust Sai more than his family. I was happy with these few steps and hoped for things to improve with time. But within two days, he was again cordial and nice to his elders, as if nothing happened. Virat genuinely believed that his ghar-ke-bade cared about him. After realising that they were happy about Sai's ousting (not caring about how it broke their 'chaheeta beta'), he didn't feel a sense of betrayal, sadness, resentment? Is he a human or an alien?

@bold exactly, that is really disturbing.

@italics he doesn’t give these a thought at all from what we have been noticing or does he for it come out some other time when Sai leaves him again? The point is why should he act only when Sai isn’t with him, why not when she is with him too?

Coming to the latest episode. Call it Virat's nature or unwritten rules of ITV, I didn't expect Virat to put his family behind bars. We know that Virat is weak when it comes to dealing with his family, but this particular crime was too much for even someone like him. Virat is supposed to be sensitive, moralistic, caring and intelligent. Where was his sense of outrage, disillusionment, pain, anger? Where was his moral dilemma on the appropriate thing to do? Did he not feel so sick in the stomach that he wanted to cut ties with all of them? Move out of CN?

@bold did he not question Kamal for how he had dragged Jagtap by a jeep? Why cannot he cut ties with him? Instead they show him thinking that all this can be fixed by giving Harini a big family, dil ke acche bade log 🤦‍♀️😡

It is obvious that comparison will be made with his aggressive reaction against Sai - who did not even do a millionth of what his family has done. It only shows him in poor light - of being shallow, insecure and abusive.

It definitely shows him in poor light. Are the writers even aware of these? Do they want to show his character this way? Should we assume that is how he is? 🤷‍♀️

And seriously, he wants Harini to know that she has a large family that "loves" her? Which love is he talking about? The one that separates a baby from the the mother thorough deceit and abandons it in an orphanage - to be left to a grim possibility of abuse, trafficking?

😡I couldn’t digest it at all. I don’t know how did he even think this way. See, he didn’t know about the truth until Kaku and Sai revealed it. But once he came to know of the truth, he still decided to go ahead with the same plan? I am not able to understand this at all. Why force the child to be accepted by such people? They should beg to be introduced to the child sometime in future when they have realised their mistakes/crimes. Why should these people beg her to accept the child and be a part of the party? Can’t Devi and Harini be united without these people?

His skill of simple deductions is abysmal. He knows that Omi planted the fake document, Bhavani's version of the truth. It didn't strike him that despite being part of/privy to the conspiracy, they all made Sai the villain and shamelessly instigated/ emotionally manipulated him against Sai?

@bold I have not seen him connecting dots at all. He does it very rarely. I was surprised that he had understood that Sai was jealous with the nurse. He doesn’t seem to have a curiosity that a regular person would have too.

I'm sure that Bhavani will be whitewashed even further - using some tear-jerking flashback. I don't know about others, but I always considered Virat to have had a toxic upbringing and I consider that to be an important part of his characterization. Some of his bad attributes - his escapist attitude, his tendency to look the other way when other family members (including his mother) are treated badly, his blind belief in his family - seemed to stem from a survival mechanism developed to survive a dysfunctional, traumatic environment. If Bhavani is going to be made into a decent woman, Virat's characterization suffers because it becomes no longer relatable. Having a bunch of loud, crass, idiotic relatives can be difficult for anyone to handle (people who have lived in joint families might know) - Virat being extremely diplomatic makes sense. But the flaws that I pointed out are big enough to be consistent ONLY with a dysfunctional upbringing.

😭

Sai - Such a disappointment. As if not satisfied with butchering Virat, they are on their way to butchering Sai. The girl who always stood for justice did speak strongly against Bhavani but all those words lost meaning when she conceded Bhavani's crime to be unintentional after witnessing her crocodile tears. Both Sai and Virat decided that attending a stupid birthday part was a good enough "pashyatap" for such a heinous crime. The writers even had the audacity to try to manipulate audience by making Karishma say that if Pulkit anyway got Harini safe & sound, what is the problem?

I don’t understand the need to butcher her character too. So is this the new Sai? 😲

The Karishma dialogue was a little too much, that was meant for her to support Pakhi as how they both had once teamed up, she was just acting her role or part. That was like a point given to Pakhi for Pakhi to continue to fight with Sai and not give up 😡.

We become attached to the show because we spend time trying to make sense of the half-hearted content the writers throw at us.The writers are lazy and are not invested in their own story and characters. Then why should we care? Ditch this crap fest and move on.

True, I agree.

P.S. @red - highlighted it because i somehow feel very strongly about it but don't know if I'm giving this point more importance than it actually is.

I understand.

Sorry, I wasn’t around and have been replying to all messages and tags the past couple of hours. I think I noticed another tag from you too, will respond tomorrow night since I won’t be around kuch tomorrow as well. I loved your points in the other post, will reply in detail sometime tomorrow night. It is a long holiday weekend, so been travelling around. The weather is also nice. Travel is good but also gets hectic 🙈. Catch you later.

Originally posted by: dairymilkanu

The inconsistency in story writing is the main problem of ghkkpm

The promo suggests virat pakhi love story as an eternal love but once episodes aired they made it as a 2 day story and audience was never able to connect with it and this was the first failure of storyline as a result pakhi character never gained sympathy

True, I agree. Even though I can’t sympathise with her, I can sympathise with Pakhi whose love story did not become successful. Until the point that she had accepted to marry Samrat for her own immoral reasons, I think one can definitely sympathise with her. Even now, I can even share why she is acting hurt or angry during and after her confrontation with a Virat once he returned from GC. She is not right in what she is doing, but I can still understand her feelings. Just that her actions cannot be justified. But even then, to show some sense as to why she is so upset or Virat is in so much of guilt, they could have given a better back story of the two.

Virat was an emotional character but poorly written when he become Rono highly unpredictable. I think writers are doing intentionally because ML are toxic towards FL in many shows and it will gain trp.Sai is a character which we may feel as consistent and is able to connect because it is well written.

True, I don’t know why they want to show him in such poor light. I am not able to connect to him anymore. I can understand him and his position, can understand the reason as why he is the way he is today, understand his nature, just that some of his actions have become unjustifiable.

Coming to acting if we gets connect to virat it is only because of Neil.I read somewhere Neil was not willing to act that handholding scene during lunch episode because it was out of virat's character but had to do it because of storyline. Seriously if we rewatch some episodes there is a feeling he is an average actor especially emotional scenes where he becomes cry bucket and if we watch virat ousting sai episodes both ayesha and neil failed throughout the episode. Both of their expressions looked fake.In recent two episodes they were best according to me but it looked so weird due to story writing. We easily notice aishwarya's mistakes because sai and virat is a team in the show and pakhi is single in standing against them.It is right she goes OTT sometimes but playing antagonist can risk sometimes entire career and the actress herself has no idea of character and somewhere we feel connected is Omi in rescent episodes . I sometimes feels character playing ashwini is also doesn't have an idea because with ayesha and Neil scenes are so good but other times so down and OTT

They are all playing roles that they might not even like. Even the roles of the leads/lead’s characters is flawed, too flawed 🙈.

I usually comment when they have acted well and have ignored when I have noticed it looking unnatural. I am usually happy with their acting, so even if it is not good on a few days, it is okay. The storyline dictates these too, so I blame them and of course the direction.

Sometimes we get bored with Virat crying again and again or Pakhi shouting or even Ashwini crying.

The another reason of failure of storyline is lack of internal monologue. In the previous episode bk could be whitewashed if they could have given it after devkit lunch drama.Virat neccessary needs some monologue about his actions with sai so that we will able to connect with virat.

Yeah, monologues are needed, they have to add for Sai too. I can tell what she feels or how she feels from what I have understood about her character. I tell the same for Virat too, but it won’t work all the time and not many are able to get it. We need to be able to connect to a character to get it even without monologues and even then it is very difficult. Some can connect with only Virat and some with Sai. Makers will have to think of these things too.

The makers are in the race of trp and I like to give an excuse of covid pandemic because they didn't had much bank episodes and plot was not in a position to get wrapped and a new to begin with. Expects to be better after harini uniting with family

Yeah, I too feel it is rushed. Could be due to pandemic, but why should they try to wrap up tracks like this abruptly? May be they have their own reasons, some deadlines or something. I am still unhappy for them to be rushing. The party and skit sounds ridiculous at the end of such a big revelation 🤦‍♀️. They could have showed a note that says after 2 days or after a few days or something rather than actually having to show that the party is happening after a few days. They have always been following their own character. They might even be shown celebrating Diwali tomorrow.

Starplus is leading because quality of other channels are too compared to SP and shows has better logic compared to others and most trp audience are watching show with family so they don't prefer shows with much romance they will prefer drama and also while watching on TV we don't explore logic and in itv ML will be soft to antagonist than with FL and there was a show in which a squandron leader in airforce with entire department acted as a fool so an excuse can be given to ips officer

🤦‍♀️ That’s where the problem is. Audience should not compromise like this, they should keep demanding logic too so that they start to change their mentality too. Can’t shove whatever they have written or decided. They are able to do it because people are willing to take it.

True, ML are shown being soft with FL, but here, they have just made it look ridiculous. He is not just being soft, but as coming across as a weak person, I want them to stop that. He is the not the Virat I started to watch. He was kind and generous but didn’t expect that they will make him look weak too.

Sorry for the late reply, just replying to all messages and comments.

Originally posted by: mistofshadows

I started on the show from the moment it was launched due to the concept.

Me too 😔

I was a regular viewer then.

Now I just go through WU.

😔

The entire premise is vandalised. Don't get me started on Virat. He is one of the most despicable ML I have ever seen.

I say this because he was sold to the audience as someone who conformed to a pedestal. Here he is falling lower and lower.

I don’t know how they can show their male lead like this.

If this was the planning, they should have never launched him as a justice adhering person. It brings bad name to all the IPS officers.

Very true.

And Sai.. the bright fiery Sai is withering too😓

This was my worst nightmare for the show. The day Sai loses her integrity, I am just going to wave a bye to this thing. Toxic Chavans are not a regular meal.

This was the only thing left. They showed her telling lies during the kidnapping track and now this 🤦‍♀️ 😒.

I so miss the Gadhchiroli episodes. They were the best. The Virat that would directly say no to bribe and his integrity 😍

Very true, I loved those episodes. Not sure how many times I have watched them 😍.

- Niki

Have replied in green.

Originally posted by: laksh

True, but I didn’t expect anything else from a Virat who didn’t rush to find Sai but instead landed at Pulkit’s house and his house later. Shouldn’t he have rushed to find her whereabouts? Can’t he have tried to trace her number?

So when he returned home, I didn’t have any expectations from him. Btw I couldn’t even watch letting him go of his Kaka 😡.

I am not even able to enjoy him as Virat anymore 😒. His romantic gestures can look nice but is not impressive when he fails in so many aspects as a husband. The way he talks to Pakhi is another let down, why can’t he be indifferent towards her if not for harsh/rude?

IPS? They have let us down big time.

Sai also disappointed me a lot, as much as how fierce she was when she fought with Kaku, she let it go with words like that 😒. Highly disappointing. Who cares whether they were a team or not, this wasn’t right. It was their first task together if I am right and so much of compromise on their moral values?

@bold woh toh hota rahega 🤣. What else can we do when we are not able to stop watching the show. Acche se sunao, ek baar post mein aur baar baar sabke comments par reply karte waqt 🤣🤣.

FFs are the only best things, we get to see what the makers can’t show us 😡.

I should seriously continue my ffs and continue to keep them as Virat and Sai that we have always known as 😔 and also so that I stop bashing them 🤣🤣. It helped me earlier and stopped me from writing posts to rant 🤣.

@bold: idk if you remember back, around the time when Mohits plate was snatched off him, you wrote a post in favour of Virat and at that time I said he'd disappointed me. I didn't and still don't expect anything from him 😆

Sai 🤔... just to have these barbarians call her immature, they made her act in a ridiculous manner.

I started watching the show from her first rasoi, the grace and dignified manner in which she approached these callous people - somewhere she got lost amongst the jungli, shameless family and their antics.

I watch on off when there's a powerful Sai giving it back scene - like the one before she left for GC.

I truly dislike the cvs have compromised the leads characters - (for me a show = the lead couple, without them both there is nothing to watch) but the rest of the circus have remained the same - even Mohit and Ashwini.