Are they serious? Time to up their game!! - Page 2

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I agree with your comment. In the case of Devyani Tai this this not a justification, and it's a crime. A heinous crime. I'm trying to see all aspects and I thought that it may be an aspect worth considering for their reaction in general, why Sairat are so toned down, but you're right.

Writer log ek dhang ki line nai likh sakhte about their own characters, and we are writing whole encyclopedias about them 😡Trying to understand the actions, the emotions, the why's, analysing everything in depth, it's totally not worth it anymore (like you said in your post).

Laksh

You said it all. Stupendous analysis as always.

Just want to say

The word Sai used anjane me hi sahi

People who do crimes mostly think they are not wrong. Duryodhan never realised that aspiring to grab Pandava fortune is a crime.

Ravana did not think that abducting Sita is a crime.

Bhavani said that she never thought Devi will be mentally effected due to her deeds.

So Bhavani here is supposed to be unaware of the paap she did. She is too proud of herself to know what is right and what is wrong.

Sai pointed out this unawareness Of Bhavani towards the sins she commited.

Probably the writers used anjane me in that regard.

That's a good rant 👏

Adding to it ,I am not liking virat , as a character but of late , the way Neil has been playing virat is more annoying than anything else..he gives me ram from ramayan vibes..maryada purshottam ..that's not a compliment 😔 n kya contrast hai , from the time he threw sai out of the house !

Secondly I am tired of watching 1 scene per episode 🤢 One argument is dragged for 20 mins..like..don't these ppl.get tired standing there at one place place argue? Itne lambe scene ke I closed the app midway..couldn't complete the episode. Ek hi baat hai jo repeat.karte rehte hain

Coming to the story devi tai track was a disaster..period....I want them to get done with it , if it's harinis bday that will put a full stop to it, I will take it.

Everyone..literally everyone was a let down in this track. If they plan to repeat it in the future tracks, I may not be interested at all. Basically everyone acted out of their characters and it ended wth them compromising with everything they stood up for.

I didn't expect much from them , but yes ,on itv , family and family values and staying together , forgiving, putting elders on a pedestal , is normal. Virat wouldn't put them behind bars (he can't charge them unless devi or pulkit complain) , virat won't keep distance (roz.ke family drama scene kaise hoge?) , sai can't leave for the same reason , so the best solution they came up with?forgive forget and move on as no punishment can change the past 🤢 Kaku getting exposed was insulting enuf , the matriarch has to be put on a pedestal for future trCks 🤢

Originally posted by: _charu_

That's a good rant 👏

Adding to it ,I am not liking virat , as a character but of late , the way Neil has been playing virat is more annoying than anything else..he gives me ram from ramayan vibes..maryada purshottam ..that's not a compliment 😔 n kya contrast hai , from the time he threw sai out of the house !

Secondly I am tired of watching 1 scene per episode 🤢 One argument is dragged for 20 mins..like..don't these ppl.get tired standing there at one place place argue? Itne lambe scene ke I closed the app midway..couldn't complete the episode. Ek hi baat hai jo repeat.karte rehte hain

Coming to the story devi tai track was a disaster..period....I want them to get done with it , if it's harinis bday that will put a full stop to it, I will take it.

Everyone..literally everyone was a let down in this track. If they plan to repeat it in the future tracks, I may not be interested at all. Basically everyone acted out of their characters and it ended wth them compromising with everything they stood up for.

I didn't expect much from them , but yes ,on itv , family and family values and staying together , forgiving, putting elders on a pedestal , is normal. Virat wouldn't put them behind bars (he can't charge them unless devi or pulkit complain) , virat won't keep distance (roz.ke family drama scene kaise hoge?) , sai can't leave for the same reason , so the best solution they came up with?forgive forget and move on as no punishment can change the past 🤢 Kaku getting exposed was insulting enuf , the matriarch has to be put on a pedestal for future trCks 🤢

@green: Agree. I think this is a KD hangover where they just went on and on talking. On average one issue takes them 40-50 minutes of debate with full family to resolve with no respite. This is one show which could do with another track on the side. But they just focus on one thing and beat it to death. So yes, the repetitive dialogues and the jungli mulgi, beizzati rant continue without break.

Lovely post

U pointed all what I am feeling right now watching show .

The inconsistency in story writing is the main problem of ghkkpm

The promo suggests virat pakhi love story as an eternal love but once episodes aired they made it as a 2 day story and audience was never able to connect with it and this was the first failure of storyline as a result pakhi character never gained sympathy.Virat was an emotional character but poorly written when he become Rono highly unpredictable. I think writers are doing intentionally because ML are toxic towards FL in many shows and it will gain trp.Sai is a character which we may feel as consistent and is able to connect because it is well written.

Coming to acting if we gets connect to virat it is only because of Neil.I read somewhere Neil was not willing to act that handholding scene during lunch episode because it was out of virat's character but had to do it because of storyline. Seriously if we rewatch some episodes there is a feeling he is an average actor especially emotional scenes where he becomes cry bucket and if we watch virat ousting sai episodes both ayesha and neil failed throughout the episode. Both of their expressions looked fake.In recent two episodes they were best according to me but it looked so weird due to story writing. We easily notice aishwarya's mistakes because sai and virat is a team in the show and pakhi is single in standing against them.It is right she goes OTT sometimes but playing antagonist can risk sometimes entire career and the actress herself has no idea of character and somewhere we feel connected is Omi in rescent episodes . I sometimes feels character playing ashwini is also doesn't have an idea because with ayesha and Neil scenes are so good but other times so down and OTT

The another reason of failure of storyline is lack of internal monologue. In the previous episode bk could be whitewashed if they could have given it after devkit lunch drama.Virat neccessary needs some monologue about his actions with sai so that we will able to connect with virat.

The makers are in the race of trp and I like to give an excuse of covid pandemic because they didn't had much bank episodes and plot was not in a position to get wrapped and a new to begin with. Expects to be better after harini uniting with family

Starplus is leading because quality of other channels are too compared to SP and shows has better logic compared to others and most trp audience are watching show with family so they don't prefer shows with much romance they will prefer drama and also while watching on TV we don't explore logic and in itv ML will be soft to antagonist than with FL and there was a show in which a squandron leader in airforce with entire department acted as a fool so an excuse can be given to ips officer

The show has lost its charm due to the daily dose of drama without any logic and overstretching. The same dialogues are given almost every day and I am feeling tired, And what is this nonsense play coming up?

Originally posted by: KJSairat

As much as I agree with laksh' rant, after discussing all this with someone I realised a few things. They may not justify everything that's wrong right now, but it's a bit more positive way to look at it.

They are showing us some progression in Virat's character. In the initial episodes he didn't speak up for Aai, he didn't say anything to CNgang for their utterly nonsense. Now he does reprimand them, like you just said. It is a slow progression, but it's there and (hopefully) it will grow in the future. Moreover it's realistic, it took someone I know 18 years to realise that she has to speak up against her father and come up for her mother and she still struggles to do it. Her upbringing wasn't even that toxic as Virat's. In the way Virat was brought up you don't question elders, so it already is a big deal for him. Although you can't justify his behaviour, somewhere it does make it more bearable to watch with this in mind.

True, I agree. What I feel is that there is an influence of Sai on him like how Bua once said when he disagreed with his Dad defending Sai saying that Sai has only good intentions for Devi and wouldn’t hurt her. That was the second time as per bua. She told Ashwini as how Virat defended Ashwini, asked his Dad not to speak about his mom like that. This was when Ashwini was with her mom who was ill at that time and they were all wondering where Sai went (she had been to Pakhi’s house that day).

See, Virat could have watched how Sai always stands up for what is right, how she doesn’t fear at all, I feel he also got some confidence after he started to work, after he had become independent. It only added to his confidence after he met Sai. So, this progression though could have happened a little late too, but even without Sai in picture, I think he wouldn’t have let his Dad raise his hands on his mom once he grew up.

Also, we don’t know if he has witnessed such things in the past. He might have been a child or might not have been at home once he became an adult. We don’t know. So, it does look like progression, but my faith on Virat is making me tell that he might have anyway done it if he had witnessed it.

Also, it is his duty to do it, I would have expected him to. So, I wouldn’t say that I am happy but I will say that thank god he didn’t disappoint me 🤣 by acting how any son should have. One reason less for me to scold him 🤣.

I wanted Sai to progress as a character, but not like this, agreed. But based on real life experiences, I do somewhere understand it a little bit. I know someone who is to some extent like Kaku and that person has children. So I'm analysing a bit based on them.

People who have regressive thoughts, who are purane khayalaat ke, are usually extremely adamant when it comes to their POV. Nothing is gonna change. You may keep pointing out the faults, you may present as many arguments as you wish, you may scream daily at them it won't help. They will not realise their mistakes. It will only result in a more toxic environment, with daily quarrels. It's difficult to understand/imagine this if you don't live in such an environment or haven't witnessed it, but this is what I've seen. People living in such an environment do realise that however, and will act accordingly. And maybe it's something Sai also has realised in the time she spent in CN.

@bold Although I am not happy, I agree with you. You have explained it right. Just like how Virat has learnt a few qualities, she has learnt a few things.

I too feel that this is because she has started to learn a few things after living with such a big family. She has learnt to live with different kinds of people in a family, learnt to live with people like Devi, Mohit, Ashwini and also Ninad, Kaku, Pakhi and Omi. She has been learning how to deal with rad of these family.

Even though I am not entirely happy with how much she has changed, she has learnt what family means, how one might have to let go of a certain things to maintain peace in the family. She knows how important these people are for Virat, knows how much he respects them and what he thinks of them. Is this not the same reason she stayed silent and accepted an unfair punishment, taunts and abuses after Devi’s wedding instead of just revealing the truth about the kidnapping? She didn’t want Virat to know of what his family did and she heard what Pulkit said. That is not something she would have done, but she is a person who gives a thought to certain things. She thought about what Virat had said about her leaving the house in the terrace after the Amays fight when Pakhi tried to feed Virat. She was reminded of his words that even if she can support herself financially through her scholarship or aaabas money, she does need the blessings of elders. Not many liked her praying for everyone in the family on that yellow dress day Pooja 🤣, but it only came out of the fact that they were all related to Virat. She herself didn’t realise how important him and his family started to become for her.

Anyway, Virat himself wanted this even after the truth, she might or might not have agreed even if he didn’t want this. God knows what kind of bhooth entered both their body that they decided to do this as a remedy to all their crimes 🤦‍♀️.

It's however necessary to point out that what they did or what they're thinking is wrong, wrong on so many levels and that you don't agree with it at all, and that's what Sai and Virat did (to some extent). You don't have many options anyway if you want to keep living with them (what Virat wants at any price).

I'm not saying that it's right, I'm only trying to see why they reacted in such way. And trying not to loose my sanity. I still fail to see why not a cold treatment? Why uniting Devi Tai and Harinee with CNgang? Why did Sai say 'anjaane me', made my blood boil. Why this rush? They could have let rest all this. Where is Virat's emotional side gone now? Tel lene? 10 years, 10 years are a lot. Losing 10 years if your life. Why is it showcased as if it's nothing? Where is Sai's 'wrong is wrong, no matter what'? Kuch aur nahi to why not showcase atleast an inner turmoil of Virat/Sai? That would make it sooo much better and more realistic too.

Cold treatment from Virat is how it should have been. A friend of mine spoke about Anjaane me. She feels that as Kaku claimed, she wouldn’t have really known that Devi’s mental position would get affected, she wouldn’t have known how exactly their action would affect Devi.

@bold don’t even want to talk about it. I hated those episodes 😡.

Inner turmoil? They couldn’t show a proper redemption track, what are they going to do now. They will start showing party and then show what was shown in the promo. I feel they are rushing and there is no need to it.

Sorry, I was out today and just responding to all comments and tags. Have replied in green.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I do not agree with this. Having regressive thoughts is different from committing a sin. Simple example - a person with regressive thoughts about caste, may cut ties with his child who married someone of lower caste and may not reconcile with him/her even on their death bed. They may even commit suicide thinking that it is humiliation. But if the same person kills his child, it means his bad character is at play rather than just regressive thoughts. It only means he is a shallow person, who never truly loved the child (no matter if the child was outwardly 'loved' and pampered by him). They will be seen giving the exact explanation as Bhavani was giving - probably the lie they tell themselves to justify their actions.There is no other way to see it, IMHO. What Bhavani did was nothing short of honour killing. Is she was so afraid of Devyani's reputation as an unwed mother, what stopped her from getting her married to Pulkit and then break all ties with her if she wanted? She supposedly did not expect and felt bad for Devyani's mental deterioration - did her maternal heart not break her enough to take corrective measures to re-unite mother to her baby? She felt not even an ounce of guilt locking Devyani up and giving her wrong medications.

After 200 plus episodes, they gave her a few dialogues, made her cry and whitewashed all her crimes 😡.

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Laksh

You said it all. Stupendous analysis as always.

Just want to say

The word Sai used anjane me hi sahi

People who do crimes mostly think they are not wrong. Duryodhan never realised that aspiring to grab Pandava fortune is a crime.

Ravana did not think that abducting Sita is a crime.

Bhavani said that she never thought Devi will be mentally effected due to her deeds.

So Bhavani here is supposed to be unaware of the paap she did. She is too proud of herself to know what is right and what is wrong.

Sai pointed out this unawareness Of Bhavani towards the sins she commited.

Probably the writers used anjane me in that regard.

@bold yeah, another friend also said the same. She feels that Kaku wouldn’t have known that it would affect Devi this way. But Kaku never tried to rectify her mistakes too. Kaku chose ghar ki maryaada over her own daughter’s life.

It is writers fault, also how else can they show them convincing Kaku to be a part of all this. Anyway, what is the need for such people to be even part of this. They didn’t want to be a part of it and it was seen in today’s episode too when Kaku spoke to Pakhi. They don’t deserve this. They should be seen begging to meet Harini, these people should not be begging them to be a part of this 🤦‍♀️. I blame the makers. In KD, it was a different story and here a child is involved. Makers always mess it up when they create their own storyline like the kidnapping track. They give an abrupt ending to tracks that they are forced to write and want to continue with copy paste again. Somehow I feel that they are rushing towards the trio’s confrontation.