II WHEN LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS II - Page 5

Originally posted by: libran90

Choti baat nahi hai ye. This is the very reason, ki jitna bhi main koshish karu Raghav ke liye bura feel karne ki, uske actions har baar mujhko rok dete hai. And my sympathies always extend to Pallavi. And now that you mention, these are the exact words I was looking for, but could not find it. You have appropriately mentioned it👏. Thank you so much🤗. Samajh nahi aa raha tha bahut der se ki kaise bhadaas nikalu😆.

See, from the very beginning Raghav's tactics have been rough and high-handed. His intentions are from a good place, but the execution is poor. He wanted to protect his sister, so he put Harish on her back. It's stalking bro, not protecting. He wanted to help Pallavi win a competition, but not by sifaarish bro. Yes, you protected her from Ved, but aaya to tera khoon peene tha. Pallavi to sirf collateral damage thi. Tu apni Amma aur behen ko itne waqt se janta hai, par tu samjha nahi ab tak ke tanta unko tere methods se hai, jo hamesha bawaal hi khada karta hai, help kam karta hai. Phir bhi, rather than getting his act together, blame Pallavi.

And he is definitely self-absorbed. It's like main bhala aur meri family bhali. Baaki logo ki na family hai aur na life. He burned Pallavi's sarees in reaction to Harish complaining about her. His diamond consignment was stopped by the Customs officer, so he damaged her sarees again. He misunderstood her because of Anjali and kidnapped and threatened her, almost bulldozed her shop down, took away her autonomy from her shop, and other things ensued. Now another MMS clip is on the way, and for this Pallavi again will be the scapegoat.

Tell me one thing, after all this, is it even possible for Pallavi to fall for him. Pallavi is dim, daft, blind, and also blames Raghav for her problems, I agree. She jumps to conclusions also rather quickly. But come to think of it. If I witness a man like Raghav, what am I supposed to think of him, bro? And after what he has put her through, how can she not assume the worst about him. And Pallavi kisi ke ghar me jaake aag nahi na lagati, tere Jayati Jewels me aake tamasha nahi na karti, roz roz tujhko sheher chodne ki dhamki nahi na deti. Haan, woh haraamkhor khandaan ko kuch jyaada hi bhav deti hai. And they truly don't deserve her. But if Raghav in his blind love for family blindly rages on Pallavi, then why can't Pallavi be a little blind for her family. Woh to hum log jante hai ki haraamkhor hai, usko pata hai kya? No. Aur hoga bhi to kuch badlega kya? Maybe.

Then with the marriage track, 20-30 episodes tak woh phirse usko torture karega. Lekin jis cheez ke liye woh ready nahi hoga, woh hai Pallavi ki beshumaar nafrat. Kyunki phirse usne usko bewajah target kiya pichle MMS kaand ki tarah. And is baar Pallavi aasani se maanegi nahi mujhko lagta hai. Also, ye banda sudhrega nahi btw. Ye pyaar me bhi aisi hi pareshaani aur BP badaani wali harkaten karega. Pallavi ka jeena dushwaar kar dega. Kabhi kabhi lagta hai this entire ego war going on is a backdrop to what they will show when Raghav falls in love. The bugger's feelings may change, but tactics won't.😆

Chalo, I know I am in minority about this thing because despite of Raghav's obvious glaring flaws in character, Sai makes him look larger than life, a swagger and wo kya kehte screen presence kamaal ki hai..you love him you hate him but you cannot ignore him...But you also cannot ignore things that we are trying to point out..jo galat hai.

@bold red _ E-X-A-C-T-L-Y Ab us buddhe ko hi le lo jisko bhari bazar me dho dala... Wese use dekhke lagta nahi usne Keerti ko itna pareshan kiya hoga..chalo kiya bhi tha, to tum arrest karwa do use. How can you become a vigilante police yourself..aur itni berehmi se ek buddhe ko kon marta hai? Keerthi ko self defence classes join karwa do bhai.. aise ate jate kisi ne Keerti ko dekh liya, to use sut te firoge? That's what I have been saying through this post, that a large part of the reason the Rao family stands estranged today is because in all these years Raghav himself has not been able to figure out ki uski ma akhir usse chahti kya hai? Itna gussa usse rehti kyu hai? Ye sara gussa kya us ek incident ki wajah se hai jisne unka ghar tod diya ya jo harkatein ye karta rehta haj din raat help karne ke naam pe zabardasti, gundagatdi, uska bhi hath hai?

@bold blue- thanks for understanding and saying this.. I know our views dont match 100% on this matter because I see this whole matter of Pallavi's devotion to the D's differently. Also, I feel that Ayi Baba atleast genuinely love her as their own daughter. Us ghar me sahi mayno me haramkhor Sulo aur Amruta hai... Baki sabse mujhe problem nahi hai..yes Vijay Deshmukh can and will give a headache but I still see his views on the matter of Raghav to come from a place of concern for Pallavi.. use lagta hai Pallavi jitna dur rahe Raghav se, utna achha hai Pallavi ke liye..aur jesa track record raha hai in dono ka, aisa sochna ek baap ke liye mujhe bohot zyada galat nahi lagta.. And I have seen this, Pallavi ko duniya kuch bole, even her own family like Sulo jo family chhodo insaan kehlane layak nahi hai, use farak nahi padta... Her attitide is " kuch to log kahenge logo ka kam hai kehna.." wo apni duties karti rehti hai.. use farak padta hai agar Ayi Baba use kuchh keh de.. aur dekha jaye to hona bhi aisa hi chaiye.. Like she told Manasi in an early episode, she had no family..knew nothing about family before she married Mandhar.. Mandhar se shadi karke, is ghar me aake us anath ko family mili, ayi baba mile jo use sach me apne bache ki tarah pyar karte hai... Uske liye ye obviously bohot badi baat hai.. maybe that's why her love and devotion to them comes across as too much at times... But wahi hai, uski family problems me mohalle ke log ya koi sadak pe chalta random admi lapete me nahi ata.. wo apni problems ki zimmedari kisi aur pe nahi thopti.. farak ye hai

After marriage, I really hope things will go how you are predicting.. If Raghav's character doesnt show growth in a positive direction then Pallavi falling for him amidst random trip, fall, catch eyelocks will be very hard to accept. Raghav apne ghar bethe bethe heere ki parakh karta hai, lekin uske andar ke heere jese dil ko sirf Pallavi pehchan sakti hai, tarash sakti hai.. but Pallavi ka uspar ye ehsan karne se pehle, Raghav ko insaan banna hoga..

Originally posted by: -RoadsideRomeo-

I agree with you. Also, your above post about Pallavi. I feel bad for her.😒

But for the 1st time I felt bad for Raghav too. Yes!😆😆 When he was talking about maine usska kitna help kiya! I think he just wants Pallavi to surrender herself to him. And she's not helping him. Kyu karen bhai!😆

Also, for the 1st time his 'hate' felt genuine to me.🤔

You know jab bhi woh usse torture karta, phir help karta, safety pin deta, I used to think kitna inconsistency hai character me. But today I felt woh ab tak Pallavi ke saath timepass kar raha tha. And finally aaj, he hates her.😒

Yes even I'm angry on him. Not for what he did to Keerthi or Mansi, that's so Raghav. But ussne jo baad me kiya usske liye. I mean your Amma just told you to not harrass Pallavi, but you are not stopping. That made me think something about him. I mean, his hate/obsession, whatever it is, for Pallavi is now greater than his love for his Amma and Keerthi?!

I was surprised when he said Amma waapas kabhi nahi aayegi. I mean why dude? Try one more time. But then I remembered his Amma's words 'stop harrassing Pallavi'. Aur usse nahi rukna.

He is officially Pallavi's 'veda maanus' now!😆

The only time I felt bad for Raghav honestly was this recent abortion incident when he wenr out of the way to clear her name and got misunderstood.. but there too, Pallavu didnt exactly "misunderstand" him.. she knew he was telling the truth but the way he exposed it, infront of Rahul's family, led to Manasi's heartbreak which she was trying to avoid.. but I will give it to Raghav because he only cared for Pallavi and didnt account for the collateral damage. That's why his amma called him tactless.. Tactless nahi to aur kya bolenge.. his amma was right when she said help jab bina puche aur insan ke marzi ke khilaf karo to wo help nahi zabardasti lagti hai.. Keerthi ne bola use imported equipment chahiye? Fir kyu apni team leke style se "follow me'" bolke kisi aur ke ghar ghuske tod fod karne lage?

As far as Pallavi is concerned, she is an unexplicable feeling he cannot shake off... He has never met someone who stands upto him the way she does...he admires that somewhere but it also irks him because he is an egoistic guy.. pyar jatana, ya kisi ko ye batana ki tumhara presence ya absence se mujhe farak padta hai, ye sab hota nahi usse, itna ego jo hai..to ja jake usko seengh marta rehta hai... But yes,now their MU is on another level because it involves their families... And when it comes to Amma n Keerthi, he will not leave anyone and will hear no logic or reasoning

Originally posted by: libran90

Mujhko dekhne ki zaroorat nahi thi. I can assume very well what has ensued. And Instagram pe snippets dekhe achche se. Honestly, iss challenge me mujhko ek din bhi achcha nahi laga, Raghav ka attitude. I know he is a good man, but he is an egoistic bully who vents his frustration on a woman who chooses to stand her ground? Is that how hollow your respect is? Just because he assumes Pallavi is in the wrong to usko bully karo. Anjali golddigger hai to usko bully karo. Arre bhai, tereko kya hai. Dusro ko bolta hai khud ke baare me sochna seekho, to tu bhi to follow kar. Apne kaam se kaam rakh na bhai. Tujhko kaun bola hai mard jaat ka theka lene ko?

I have only enjoyed the light-hearted moments in the show, sans D family drama, and Raghav's ego hassles. I appreciate Farhaad's swamibhakti and all, but boss I really want Farhaad to tell him off one day. I wish Farhaad gets that chance. Cause kabhi kabhi achche dost sahi raasta dikhate hai.

Raghav's attitude with Pallavi and his actions have sometimes made me really squirm, in spite of all my liking for him. And after all this, I would hate to watch Pallavi fall in love first, after the filth she will be put through. Raghav has to work his way up to earn her love man. Sab kuch paise aur ego se nahi milta - na hi suhaagan, na hi pyaar.🤔

Sometimes I wonder if Raghav's attitide or reactions had been the same if Pallavi was a millionare, influential businesswoman or politician... Apne se kamzor par mardangi dikhana kaha ki mardangi hai? But I guess is bel buddhi ko seedha karne ke liye, loha hi lohe to kaat ta hai wala logic apply nahi hota... Agar Pallavi khud bhi rich n influential hoti, to shayad Raghav usko itna pareshan nahi kar pata par fir shayad use usse pyar bhi nahi hota.. aur wo Pallavi use life ki ek important seekh nahi de pati ki pesa hi sab kuch nahi hota.. pese se aap khushiyan, rishte, pyar, mafi nahi kharid sakte..

Aisa hota to wo apne pese se ye sab kharidke apni amma, behen ko leke apni sone ko lanka me betha aaj bohot khush hota..

You arr right.. even I want Farhad to voice his opinion more openly because sacha dost wo nahi hota jo har khushi me tumhare liye tali peete but wo hota hai jo tumhari galtiyo pe tumhare pichwade ek laat bhi mare.. I want Farhad to also express his anger and disapproval of Raghav's ways this time without getting intimidated by the boss Raghav Rao.

Agree.. Raghav has to earn Pallavi's love and respect and she dare not make it easy on him..

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

The only time I felt bad for Raghav honestly was this recent abortion incident when he wenr out of the way to clear her name and got misunderstood.. but there too, Pallavu didnt exactly "misunderstand" him.. she knew he was telling the truth but the way he exposed it, infront of Rahul's family, led to Manasi's heartbreak which she was trying to avoid.. but I will give it to Raghav because he only cared for Pallavi and didnt account for the collateral damage. That's why his amma called him tactless.. Tactless nahi to aur kya bolenge.. his amma was right when she said help jab bina puche aur insan ke marzi ke khilaf karo to wo help nahi zabardasti lagti hai.. Keerthi ne bola use imported equipment chahiye? Fir kyu apni team leke style se "follow me'" bolke kisi aur ke ghar ghuske tod fod karne lage?

As far as Pallavi is concerned, she is an unexplicable feeling he cannot shake off... He has never met someone who stands upto him the way she does...he admires that somewhere but it also irks him because he is an egoistic guy.. pyar jatana, ya kisi ko ye batana ki tumhara presence ya absence se mujhe farak padta hai, ye sab hota nahi usse, itna ego jo hai..to ja jake usko seengh marta rehta hai... But yes,now their MU is on another level because it involves their families... And when it comes to Amma n Keerthi, he will not leave anyone and will hear no logic or reasoning

I know re...

I feel Raghav is in a situation where usse Pallavi se pyaar bhi nahi karna aur usse Pallavi chaahiye bhi! He needs counselling

On a serious note, I agree with you. He seriously needs to understand the root cause. It'll take time but soon he'll learn.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Chalo, I know I am in minority about this thing because despite of Raghav's obvious glaring flaws in character, Sai makes him look larger than life, a swagger and wo kya kehte screen presence kamaal ki hai..you love him you hate him but you cannot ignore him...But you also cannot ignore things that we are trying to point out..jo galat hai.

@bold red _ E-X-A-C-T-L-Y Ab us buddhe ko hi le lo jisko bhari bazar me dho dala... Wese use dekhke lagta nahi usne Keerti ko itna pareshan kiya hoga..chalo kiya bhi tha, to tum arrest karwa do use. How can you become a vigilante police yourself..aur itni berehmi se ek buddhe ko kon marta hai? Keerthi ko self defence classes join karwa do bhai.. aise ate jate kisi ne Keerti ko dekh liya, to use sut te firoge? That's what I have been saying through this post, that a large part of the reason the Rao family stands estranged today is because in all these years Raghav himself has not been able to figure out ki uski ma akhir usse chahti kya hai? Itna gussa usse rehti kyu hai? Ye sara gussa kya us ek incident ki wajah se hai jisne unka ghar tod diya ya jo harkatein ye karta rehta haj din raat help karne ke naam pe zabardasti, gundagatdi, uska bhi hath hai?

@bold blue- thanks for understanding and saying this.. I know our views dont match 100% on this matter because I see this whole matter of Pallavi's devotion to the D's differently. Also, I feel that Ayi Baba atleast genuinely love her as their own daughter. Us ghar me sahi mayno me haramkhor Sulo aur Amruta hai... Baki sabse mujhe problem nahi hai..yes Vijay Deshmukh can and will give a headache but I still see his views on the matter of Raghav to come from a place of concern for Pallavi.. use lagta hai Pallavi jitna dur rahe Raghav se, utna achha hai Pallavi ke liye..aur jesa track record raha hai in dono ka, aisa sochna ek baap ke liye mujhe bohot zyada galat nahi lagta.. And I have seen this, Pallavi ko duniya kuch bole, even her own family like Sulo jo family chhodo insaan kehlane layak nahi hai, use farak nahi padta... Her attitide is " kuch to log kahenge logo ka kam hai kehna.." wo apni duties karti rehti hai.. use farak padta hai agar Ayi Baba use kuchh keh de.. aur dekha jaye to hona bhi aisa hi chaiye.. Like she told Manasi in an early episode, she had no family..knew nothing about family before she married Mandhar.. Mandhar se shadi karke, is ghar me aake us anath ko family mili, ayi baba mile jo use sach me apne bache ki tarah pyar karte hai... Uske liye ye obviously bohot badi baat hai.. maybe that's why her love and devotion to them comes across as too much at times... But wahi hai, uski family problems me mohalle ke log ya koi sadak pe chalta random admi lapete me nahi ata.. wo apni problems ki zimmedari kisi aur pe nahi thopti.. farak ye hai

After marriage, I really hope things will go how you are predicting.. If Raghav's character doesnt show growth in a positive direction then Pallavi falling for him amidst random trip, fall, catch eyelocks will be very hard to accept. Raghav apne ghar bethe bethe heere ki parakh karta hai, lekin uske andar ke heere jese dil ko sirf Pallavi pehchan sakti hai, tarash sakti hai.. but Pallavi ka uspar ye ehsan karne se pehle, Raghav ko insaan banna hoga..

No re, I am also in minority then. I dislike Raghav's attitude as much as I disliked Shivaay threatening Anika to marry him with a shoe near her face. It was disgusting. But Shivaay got a free pass, because he was the blue-eyed boy, literally, of the Oberois. And Anika also gave him a free pass frankly.

Raghav is very frank that way, jaisa hai dikha deta hai. Peet peeche karna uska fitrat nahi hai. But jo kuch bhi karta hai, it's not something worth encouraging either. His methods are terrible, his attitude does not help his intentions. In short, Raghav ko bardaasht karna mushkil hai, agar koi bhi redeeming feature na ho bande me. His pain comes across as khokla to me, cause more than 80 percent of his problems are due to his attitude, and the reactions they generate, yet he stubbornly refuses to acknowledge that.

Why should I feel angry at Pallavi? She reacts against Raghav when he acts in his typical don demeanour. She admonishes him when she sees that his "methods" are adversely affecting her life. I get it in Amrita's case what he did, he was bang on, that bitch and a half duo deserved what Raghav dished their way. I agree I don't like the D family and I doubt their intent. Cause ek taraf agar beti maano, to beti pe vishwaas rakho bhi. Agar woh kuch kar rahi hai, kuch bol nahi rahi hai, to uske chuppi ko bhi samajhne ki koshish karo. But from Pallavi's pov, Raghav ka timing aur tareeka galat tha, aur kuch nahi. What happened with Manasi, she did not deserve it either. Amrita got her due for sure, but Pallavi ke pov se, woh bhi ek ladki hai and she does not deserve to be shamed publicly. And that applies to every girl, even Keerti and herself btw.

Raghav blames Pallavi for everything. His mother is angry, Pallavi's fault. His sister is shamed, Pallavi's fault. She does not acknowledge what he does for her, Pallavi's fault. Is he mentally sound when he says all this? Anjali's fault???Sulochana's fault??? Ye sab uske dimaag me aata hai bhi, ya as he says, hawa me filter hokar vamoose ho jaata hai???🤪Aur ek baat samjhao mereko, Pallavi uske kisi bhi action ko acknowledge hi kyun kare? He has a problem with that also. Matlab agar bura karta hoon, to lecture deti hai. Agar acha karega to kya varmaala leke khadi ho jaaye???😆 Matlab isko shikayat kis baat se hai koi samjhao, Pallavi ke wajah se woh Amma ki daant khata hai isiliye ya Pallavi usko bhao nahi deti isiliye. Ek taraf he blames her for the MMS kaand and dusri taraf he wants to help her out, and receive shabaashi for that. Agar Pallavi ne hi MMS kaand kiya, to tu uski madad karne ke liye kyun uchchal raha hai bhai. Aur phir rota bhi hai.

Frankly, he is stuck in an unhealthy obsession with Pallavi, where he is feeling hate for her, attraction for her, concern for her, wants to help her, wants to drive her out of the city all at the same time. How is he even alive till now which so many overwhelming feelings inside him?😆 Raghav Anna is in quicksand, and soon he will be sinking into his self-created hell hole and will want Pallavi to be there beside him, there as well. Bola tha maine, "Mujhe nafrat hona, to tumko bhi hona hota; mujhe pyaar hona, to tumko bhi hona hota". There is no option in between for Pallavi. As I said, this entire war we have seen till now is the same premise on which once feelings change, Raghav's actions won't get him Pallavi's love, just like right now he isn't getting Pallavi's submission.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Sometimes I wonder if Raghav's attitide or reactions had been the same if Pallavi was a millionare, influential businesswoman or politician... Apne se kamzor par mardangi dikhana kaha ki mardangi hai? But I guess is bel buddhi ko seedha karne ke liye, loha hi lohe to kaat ta hai wala logic apply nahi hota... Agar Pallavi khud bhi rich n influential hoti, to shayad Raghav usko itna pareshan nahi kar pata par fir shayad use usse pyar bhi nahi hota.. aur wo Pallavi use life ki ek important seekh nahi de pati ki pesa hi sab kuch nahi hota.. pese se aap khushiyan, rishte, pyar, mafi nahi kharid sakte..

Aisa hota to wo apne pese se ye sab kharidke apni amma, behen ko leke apni sone ko lanka me betha aaj bohot khush hota..

You arr right.. even I want Farhad to voice his opinion more openly because sacha dost wo nahi hota jo har khushi me tumhare liye tali peete but wo hota hai jo tumhari galtiyo pe tumhare pichwade ek laat bhi mare.. I want Farhad to also express his anger and disapproval of Raghav's ways this time without getting intimidated by the boss Raghav Rao.

Agree.. Raghav has to earn Pallavi's love and respect and she dare not make it easy on him..

ITV me hero and heroine ek level pe ho, aisa kabhi nahi dikhate. Financially bhale hi barabar na ho, par attitude me barabari dikhate hai ye log, despite their situations. Raghav ka problem uska paisa to hai hi, usse jyaada uski kadwi zubaan hai, and uske kadwe karele wale actions. Uske baad kuch bachta nahi na.Everything derails right there.

Jis din Pallavi ka sach saamne aayega (pata nahi kitne episodes me woh shubh din aayega), but jab bhi aayega, Farhaad bolega zaroor. I hope bole.

I really want to see him suffer for once. Pallavi ne kaha tha na, "What goes around, comes around". Please waisa hi kuch dikhakar kritaarth kare humko CVs.

Originally posted by: libran90

No re, I am also in minority then. I dislike Raghav's attitude as much as I disliked Shivaay threatening Anika to marry him with a shoe near her face. It was disgusting. But Shivaay got a free pass, because he was the blue-eyed boy, literally, of the Oberois. And Anika also gave him a free pass frankly.

Raghav is very frank that way, jaisa hai dikha deta hai. Peet peeche karna uska fitrat nahi hai. But jo kuch bhi karta hai, it's not something worth encouraging either. His methods are terrible, his attitude does not help his intentions. In short, Raghav ko bardaasht karna mushkil hai, agar koi bhi redeeming feature na ho bande me. His pain comes across as khokla to me, cause more than 80 percent of his problems are due to his attitude, and the reactions they generate, yet he stubbornly refuses to acknowledge that.

Why should I feel angry at Pallavi? She reacts against Raghav when he acts in his typical don demeanour. She admonishes him when she sees that his "methods" are adversely affecting her life. I get it in Amrita's case what he did, he was bang on, that bitch and a half duo deserved what Raghav dished their way. I agree I don't like the D family and I doubt their intent. Cause ek taraf agar beti maano, to beti pe vishwaas rakho bhi. Agar woh kuch kar rahi hai, kuch bol nahi rahi hai, to uske chuppi ko bhi samajhne ki koshish karo. But from Pallavi's pov, Raghav ka timing aur tareeka galat tha, aur kuch nahi. What happened with Manasi, she did not deserve it either. Amrita got her due for sure, but Pallavi ke pov se, woh bhi ek ladki hai and she does not deserve to be shamed publicly. And that applies to every girl, even Keerti and herself btw.

Raghav blames Pallavi for everything. His mother is angry, Pallavi's fault. His sister is shamed, Pallavi's fault. She does not acknowledge what he does for her, Pallavi's fault. Is he mentally sound when he says all this? Anjali's fault???Sulochana's fault??? Ye sab uske dimaag me aata hai bhi, ya as he says, hawa me filter hokar vamoose ho jaata hai???🤪Aur ek baat samjhao mereko, Pallavi uske kisi bhi action ko acknowledge hi kyun kare? He has a problem with that also. Matlab agar bura karta hoon, to lecture deti hai. Agar acha karega to kya varmaala leke khadi ho jaaye???😆 Matlab isko shikayat kis baat se hai koi samjhao, Pallavi ke wajah se woh Amma ki daant khata hai isiliye ya Pallavi usko bhao nahi deti isiliye. Ek taraf he blames her for the MMS kaand and dusri taraf he wants to help her out, and receive shabaashi for that. Agar Pallavi ne hi MMS kaand kiya, to tu uski madad karne ke liye kyun uchchal raha hai bhai. Aur phir rota bhi hai.

Frankly, he is stuck in an unhealthy obsession with Pallavi, where he is feeling hate for her, attraction for her, concern for her, wants to help her, wants to drive her out of the city all at the same time. How is he even alive till now which so many overwhelming feelings inside him?😆 Raghav Anna is in quicksand, and soon he will be sinking into his self-created hell hole and will want Pallavi to be there beside him, there as well. Bola tha maine, "Mujhe nafrat hona, to tumko bhi hona hota; mujhe pyaar hona, to tumko bhi hona hota". There is no option in between for Pallavi. As I said, this entire war we have seen till now is the same premise on which once feelings change, Raghav's actions won't get him Pallavi's love, just like right now he isn't getting Pallavi's submission.

I havent seen Ishqbaaz so dont know what happened there.. I know it was a very popular show and I saw few episodes in the beginning but the actors particularly the leads didnt appeal to me so I stopped watching. But what Shivay did sounds aweful. This bad boy falling for the girl next door happy go lucky girl and transforming in love is one of the most cliched tracks but it has an appeal to it. And its not new, that the bad boy with the so called "golden heart" always gets a free pass. But what agitates me is that the girl in majority of these cases is on the receiving end of severe criticism for the slightest of mistakes whereas fact is even in her dumbest of days her mistakes are nowhere as monumental as the ML. And I agree with you 100% on this.. As much as l love Sai's protrayal of Raghav, I am unable to feel for his pain or his sufferings because of the plain irritating ways he resorts to, with the intention of setting things right for his family. Unless we get snippets of Ramaswamy act, or Ramakrishna telling us that he financed his son's education, he comes across as a selfish guy who only cares about himself n his immediate family, amma and Keerthi. Baki duniya jaye tel lene. But then again, all those charities he does, money can buy, but he cancels out all the good work he does through charity, with his arrogance and foul mouth. I know not everyone can be "mridubhashi" but his arrogance/ego has gone on a whole new level eversince Pallavi has entered his life, and that most of the time just feels wrong and unnecessary, all the more so because the reason for it is a MU that is because of his own stupidity. And I agree, he has found an easy punching bag in Pallavi.. life me kuch bhi galat ho, he will blame her.. I dont understand how he has come to the conclusion that Pallavi has pushed his amma away from him.. as if before Pallavi entered his life, he had successfully been able to bridge the gap between him and his amma.. itne saalo me jo na kar paye wo aise amma ka ilaj karwake ya shadi ke ghar me kaam karwake, nahi hone wala... pehle apni harkatein sudharo, zabaan thik karo, insaan ko insaan samjho, tab jake maafi ke bare socho.. isme Pallavi ka koi dosh nahi, ye raita tunhare khud ka felaya huwa hai, sametna bhi khud ko hi padega..

I agree..itna ego bhara pada hai bande me ki pyar bhi pyar se na ho payega..😆 usme bhi dhons jamane ki koshish karega.. Pallavi has an uphill task on hand for sure.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I havent seen Ishqbaaz so dont know what happened there.. I know it was a very popular show and I saw few episodes in the beginning but the actors particularly the leads didnt appeal to me so I stopped watching. But what Shivay did sounds aweful. This bad boy falling for the girl next door happy go lucky girl and transforming in love is one of the most cliched tracks but it has an appeal to it. And its not new, that the bad boy with the so called "golden heart" always gets a free pass. But what agitates me is that the girl in majority of these cases is on the receiving end of severe criticism for the slightest of mistakes whereas fact is even in her dumbest of days her mistakes are nowhere as monumental as the ML. And I agree with you 100% on this.. As much as l love Sai's protrayal of Raghav, I am unable to feel for his pain or his sufferings because of the plain irritating ways he resorts to, with the intention of setting things right for his family. Unless we get snippets of Ramaswamy act, or Ramakrishna telling us that he financed his son's education, he comes across as a selfish guy who only cares about himself n his immediate family, amma and Keerthi. Baki duniya jaye tel lene. But then again, all those charities he does, money can buy, but he cancels out all the good work he does through charity, with his arrogance and foul mouth. I know not everyone can be "mridubhashi" but his arrogance/ego has gone on a whole new level eversince Pallavi has entered his life, and that most of the time just feels wrong and unnecessary, all the more so because the reason for it is a MU that is because of his own stupidity. And I agree, he has found an easy punching bag in Pallavi.. life me kuch bhi galat ho, he will blame her.. I dont understand how he has come to the conclusion that Pallavi has pushed his amma away from him.. as if before Pallavi entered his life, he had successfully been able to bridge the gap between him and his amma.. itne saalo me jo na kar paye wo aise amma ka ilaj karwake ya shadi ke ghar me kaam karwake, nahi hone wala... pehle apni harkatein sudharo, zabaan thik karo, insaan ko insaan samjho, tab jake maafi ke bare socho.. isme Pallavi ka koi dosh nahi, ye raita tunhare khud ka felaya huwa hai, sametna bhi khud ko hi padega..

I agree..itna ego bhara pada hai bande me ki pyar bhi pyar se na ho payega..😆 usme bhi dhons jamane ki koshish karega.. Pallavi has an uphill task on hand for sure.

I have seen Ishqbaaz initially, and what Shivaay did to get Anika to marry him for his own selfish agenda of safeguarding family reputation was awful. I skipped those episodes. And then when a spunky character like Anika safeguards him before the family, saying that this is between them and they will sort out when his family is trying to reprimand him, it's bad news. I did not get the logic of the woman, I lost Anika there.

Khair, coming back to the point here, whatever carat of gold his heart is made of, is not coming before the people it should. And his foul mouth and foul behavior aren't going to get him anywhere. The logic of these supposed MLs is flawless in business, but when it comes to the FL they are judgemental, crude, and logicless asses. It is unbelievable how can two people exist in the same man.

Why is Pallavi made the scapegoat for everything wrong in his life? Why? Cause he does not want to blame that mystery woman anymore, that is why Pallavi? Boss, tune karke dekha hai na itne waqt se, kuch badla. No. To Pallavi ke aane se, extra kya different ho gaya? Wohi chal raha hai jo pehle se chal raha tha. Kya aadmi hai ye.

Iske life ka be all and end all Pallavi hi ho gayi hai somehow, without him consciously realizing it. I mean uski Amma ke itni baar kehne ke bawajood, he hasn't stopped bullying Pallavi. But his Amma has coaxed him for the marriage, aur woh maan gaya? Raghav Rao has time and again proved, ki woh karta apne mann ki hi hai. I am not willing to let him go saying that he doesn't understand Amma's issue. He doesn't want his attitude to be an issue and he wants his Amma to accept him as he is. He does not want to change bro. He wants to stay like this and wants his family to like him as he is. But that isn't happening. Just like he wants Pallavi to submit to him, but like his mother, she also doesn't want to. Pallavi is so big an obsession that even his Amma's instructions have started falling on deaf ears.

I have told you many times. I feel extremely sorry for Pallavi. She has been put through so much, thanks to Raghav and her "oh-so-lovely" family. And then the poor girl doesn't get a breather from Raghav. Now she will always stay under his nose, so he can make Pallavi bend to his will - now with full rights as a husband. First, it will be about punishing her, then it will be about demanding his rights as a husband, then it will about demanding his wife's love. This guy will just overwhelm her. Raghav has no less of an uphill task either. Pallavi will not take his behavior sitting down, she will not accept Raghav as her husband, she will not accept his love. So ye sab jo chal raha hai na "war" ke naam pe, iska Round 2 hoga shaadi ke baad "pyaar" ke naam pe😆. Dekhna, ye veda maanus phir se bandi ko truck ke saamne bithayega, apna love confess karne ke liye. Likh ke le lo.😆

Originally posted by: libran90

I have seen Ishqbaaz initially, and what Shivaay did to get Anika to marry him for his own selfish agenda of safeguarding family reputation was awful. I skipped those episodes. And then when a spunky character like Anika safeguards him before the family, saying that this is between them and they will sort out when his family is trying to reprimand him, it's bad news. I did not get the logic of the woman, I lost Anika there.

Khair, coming back to the point here, whatever carat of gold his heart is made of, is not coming before the people it should. And his foul mouth and foul behavior aren't going to get him anywhere. The logic of these supposed MLs is flawless in business, but when it comes to the FL they are judgemental, crude, and logicless asses. It is unbelievable how can two people exist in the same man.

Why is Pallavi made the scapegoat for everything wrong in his life? Why? Cause he does not want to blame that mystery woman anymore, that is why Pallavi? Boss, tune karke dekha hai na itne waqt se, kuch badla. No. To Pallavi ke aane se, extra kya different ho gaya? Wohi chal raha hai jo pehle se chal raha tha. Kya aadmi hai ye.

Iske life ka be all and end all Pallavi hi ho gayi hai somehow, without him consciously realizing it. I mean uski Amma ke itni baar kehne ke bawajood, he hasn't stopped bullying Pallavi. But his Amma has coaxed him for the marriage, aur woh maan gaya? Raghav Rao has time and again proved, ki woh karta apne mann ki hi hai. I am not willing to let him go saying that he doesn't understand Amma's issue. He doesn't want his attitude to be an issue and he wants his Amma to accept him as he is. He does not want to change bro. He wants to stay like this and wants his family to like him as he is. But that isn't happening. Just like he wants Pallavi to submit to him, but like his mother, she also doesn't want to. Pallavi is so big an obsession that even his Amma's instructions have started falling on deaf ears.

I have told you many times. I feel extremely sorry for Pallavi. She has been put through so much, thanks to Raghav and her "oh-so-lovely" family. And then the poor girl doesn't get a breather from Raghav. Now she will always stay under his nose, so he can make Pallavi bend to his will - now with full rights as a husband. First, it will be about punishing her, then it will be about demanding his rights as a husband, then it will about demanding his wife's love. This guy will just overwhelm her. Raghav has no less of an uphill task either. Pallavi will not take his behavior sitting down, she will not accept Raghav as her husband, she will not accept his love. So ye sab jo chal raha hai na "war" ke naam pe, iska Round 2 hoga shaadi ke baad "pyaar" ke naam pe😆. Dekhna, ye veda maanus phir se bandi ko truck ke saamne bithayega, apna love confess karne ke liye. Likh ke le lo.😆

Ab tu bhi mujhe likh ke de rahi hai? 😆 not needed bro, you and I are on the same page on this issue aur ye page wese bohot chhoti hai🤣 wahi mein keh rahi hu, itnr saalo me konsa pahad khod liya as far his efforts to get amma to forgive him goes? Jo Pallavi ke ane se bada gussa aa raha hai ki isne meri koshisho pe pani fer diya? Jis level ka dukh aur narazgi hai amma ko, wo vridhashram me daan punya karke ya, ya begani shadi me abdullah banke khana serve karne se dur nahi hoga? Wo sab mayene rakhta agar jis hath se khana parosa usi hath se sadak pe ek buddhe ko kapde ki tarah dho nahi dalte.. arey murakh! Dekhne wale logo ko ye to nahi pata ki buddha teri behen to chhed raha tha... Wo to yehi bolenge na ki is aurat ka beta hai , sheher ka don, kamzor ko pit raha hai. Mandir me ek taraf bolta hai, sab logo ko pani pilao bethao darshan jaldi karao logo ko wait karana achi baat nahi jo sirf Farhad ne suni.. aur jo duniya ne suni wo ye ki wahi admi ek ladki se janwaro ki tarah baat kar raha hai... Jab khud ka image aise hi bigadke rakhna hai duniya ke samne, to koi tumko acha kese samje? Tumhare intensions kese samje? Koi antaryami thode hi hain bhai? Jo dikhta hai wahi bikta hai simple! Jab tumhari harkato ki wajah se tumhari khud ki ma tumhe chahte huye bhi maaf nahi kar pa rahi to baki duniya including Pallavi tumko kyu samjhe ya maaf kare? Wo to fir bhi kafi kuch seh leti hai.. baat bilkul sahi hai... Bhens ki puch pakadne ke adat hai.. problem ka root nahi samajna, solution har galat jage pe dhundna hai... I wanna know more about Raghav's past but on the basis of whatever they have shown so far, its unfortunate to have to be in his position but all his efforts to make things better seem to be in wong direction. And no everything cannot be and should not have to be spelt out.. Itna gadha mein nahi manti kisiko ki wo ye samajh hi na paye ki uski ma akhir usse chahti kya hai.. aisa hota to charity nahi karta.. lekin khudko badalna nahi hai.. Pallavi ko ungli tedhi karne hi padegi kyunki seedhi baat isko samajme nahi ati... I know aage aane walo kuch weeks me, ye mera dimag aur kharab karne wala hai.. I really hope he is made accountable for every pain he gives to her and makes up for it in a way that seems worthy in the end. Pallavi has to stay strong and not fall prey to his raw sex appeal like theu showed earlier.. she should remain unaffected, aloof and completely indifferent. I wanna see the fire in her eyes that I saw in the promo from the wedding day onwards till the time he regrets his actions and falls for her..

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Ab tu bhi mujhe likh ke de rahi hai? 😆 not needed bro, you and I are on the same page on this issue aur ye page wese bohot chhoti hai🤣 wahi mein keh rahi hu, itnr saalo me konsa pahad khod liya as far his efforts to get amma to forgive him goes? Jo Pallavi ke ane se bada gussa aa raha hai ki isne meri koshisho pe pani fer diya? Jis level ka dukh aur narazgi hai amma ko, wo vridhashram me daan punya karke ya, ya begani shadi me abdullah banke khana serve karne se dur nahi hoga?

Wo sab mayene rakhta agar jis hath se khana parosa usi hath se sadak pe ek buddhe ko kapde ki tarah dho nahi dalte.. arey murakh! Dekhne wale logo ko ye to nahi pata ki buddha teri behen to chhed raha tha... Wo to yehi bolenge na ki is aurat ka beta hai , sheher ka don, kamzor ko pit raha hai. Mandir me ek taraf bolta hai, sab logo ko pani pilao bethao darshan jaldi karao logo ko wait karana achi baat nahi jo sirf Farhad ne suni.. aur jo duniya ne suni wo ye ki wahi admi ek ladki se janwaro ki tarah baat kar raha hai... Jab khud ka image aise hi bigadke rakhna hai duniya ke samne, to koi tumko acha kese samje? Tumhare intensions kese samje? Koi antaryami thode hi hain bhai?

Jo dikhta hai wahi bikta hai simple! Jab tumhari harkato ki wajah se tumhari khud ki ma tumhe chahte huye bhi maaf nahi kar pa rahi to baki duniya including Pallavi tumko kyu samjhe ya maaf kare? Wo to fir bhi kafi kuch seh leti hai.. baat bilkul sahi hai... Bhens ki puch pakadne ke adat hai.. problem ka root nahi samajna, solution har galat jage pe dhundna hai... I wanna know more about Raghav's past but on the basis of whatever they have shown so far, its unfortunate to have to be in his position but all his efforts to make things better seem to be in wrong direction.

And no everything cannot be and should not have to be spelt out.. Itna gadha mein nahi manti kisiko ki wo ye samajh hi na paye ki uski ma akhir usse chahti kya hai.. aisa hota to charity nahi karta.. lekin khudko badalna nahi hai.. Pallavi ko ungli tedhi karne hi padegi kyunki seedhi baat isko samajme nahi ati... I know aage aane walo kuch weeks me, ye mera dimag aur kharab karne wala hai.. I really hope he is made accountable for every pain he gives to her and makes up for it in a way that seems worthy in the end. Pallavi has to stay strong and not fall prey to his raw sex appeal like theu showed earlier.. she should remain unaffected, aloof and completely indifferent. I wanna see the fire in her eyes that I saw in the promo from the wedding day onwards till the time he regrets his actions and falls for her..

Lets see kya hota hai. Fire jyaada din tak tikta nahi hai Pallavi me, phuss ho jata hai usually.😆