Baiko ka 24K sone jaisa dil vs Vahini ke common sense ka overdose - Page 4

Originally posted by: cheekukabeej

You are gifted Janki. I hope you know that. It was so beautiful to read❤️❤️

Aww thank you dear 🤗❤️ I sure am blessed to run into people, who make me feel so, always. Like you just did ❤️

Originally posted by: Svt611

firstly, happy women's day Janki!!!1

fabulous analysis as always!!! Loved every bit of it..

I do feel virat is in love it is just that his warped sense of love from the 1.47 yoga love is not making him realize it...

Adat like you said in marriage can be bad.. but i do feel in this case the adat is not bad as like you mentioned his sense of confidence, his stand for right and wrong, and his outspokenness is clear to the family.. like aai had mentioned when they just got married ki virat bolta nahi hai apni man ki baatein, he is coming out of his shell..

yahan adat is of her chirpiness, her presence, her making him feel confident, her unconditional and unadulterated love towards his family..

But I will still say uska dimag pyaar ki bhasha se phir chuka hai after the 1.47 greatest love story!!

What i found the most hilarious in your post was the tender coconut bit that was too good!!! I didn't even notice cause my eyes were fixated to virat!!

Another thing was that ved vahini mentioned how sai has influenced virat's mind!! Toh didi se ek sawaal, aap kya karne aayi ho... yeh influence nahi toh kya hai!?

@pink: I don't think he is thinking in terms of the definition of love. I think he's just going with the flow of the emotions and he doesn't know what to make of it. He doesn't want to call it 'love' because for that he has to ready to confront those questions. I am sure even if he tells Sai, "I love you", she won't accept it until he answers her questions. She would obviously want to know "Why suddenly?"

@bold: she adds the life to his days. What would the days be like without her?

@green: Ab jaisa dikhta hai waisa hi bolungi na... it really looks so funny like either she has an alien head (Which goes with her delusional 2.30am talks of Virat's suicide) or then it's a badly shaped wig that can't mask her pony under.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Lovely post, Asmi! 🤗 You've actually joined in the discussions at a time when so many of our lovely friends got disillusioned and left and am sure we all miss them...

I agree with you about the Sai making Devyani run away and marrying her off - I have mentioned this long long ago in some discussion and the reason why I am drawing attention to the 'mentally unsound' part is that the marriage of a mentally unsound person is invalid. It does not meet the required criteria of a legal marriage in the eyes of law, no matter the history or how much the spouse loves the invalidated person. So, if Pulkit does not have any legal proof of the previous marriage that they had in their sound state of mind, it is actually a crime for Sai to run away with Devi -- yes, we are watching a typical soap and so we already know that the Female Protagonist is "right" but as you said, she can be misled, she could be wrong. I don't think I would be able to agree with Sai at that point for one simple reason:

It is all about time -- The misunderstanding that the gang is trying to create is not something that cannot be defended or challenged. It is only about a day or two and you'd have the truth in front of you so there is no need to elope. But the whole track has been so badly written that the logic has been set aside and everything is impulsive. As a story, it is actually not appealing to my mind. My only question is that they could have written a smart story and still created a misunderstanding without making it look so stupid. She definitely needs to understand Virat's objection or doubt after the 'facts' presented by the family. I don't know why would one want to run away and just get the two married unless it is to ensure that all the grand preparations are not wasted because of the delay 🤪

But hindi serial hai, so aisa hi hoga.

Regarding Virat and Sai going hot and cold on one another -- it's a cycle. They are both waiting for validation from the other. It's like chicken and egg. Someone has to break it first. And I think Virat has the chance because she is, again and again, asking the question and setting a base for him to answer to give her some clarity so that she can then show him some amount of the kind of affection he wants but well, khamoshi is his answer so hesitation is the mutual gift. Virat has a volcano inside and Sai lets out her spark from time to time in her words, but she also has a storm brewing inside. It's only a matter of time when the volcano bursts, the storm will also bring the water to cool it... may be...

Well I know I missed conversing with so many people.. Peppermint was there.. Mythoughts.. some name I dont even remember.. But I only started watching the show in the last week of January..Anyway I am relying on your analysis for the next few episodes, till Sai goes to GC..will get to back to watch the un-watched ones and new ones then ..Dont have it my heart to see these goofballs so hurt, heartbroken and zillat arena's maine kaha tha ..kaha tha na..the their smirks...

About the show and storyline..well what to do.. Indian soap hai... I cant believe I am watching or better say addicted to this nonsense.. But then wahi Sairat Sairat.. kya karun..

Virat and Sai I dont know what is to come..But for once I want Sai to apologize and miss Virat.. understand his importance in life to herself if not to him and Virat to scrap the waada in front of Sai..They can only go forward "together" when that waada is scrapped..Atleast for Sai the waada still exists.. He need to also tell her if not in words then actions, that she can keep expectations from him and replace the word duty with wife.. I like how Sai is okay calling herself his biwi..even when they are alone..while Virat is still stuck at parivar and dost.. Biwi bulana shuru kar do bhai..

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

She should inform Virat because

a)he is Devi's brother and

b)he is her husband who has been taking stand for her most of the times.

c)because its Virat only , who has accepted/helped her in going with the marriage..

Keeping Virat in loop when he is with her and ignoring him and discarding all his valid concerns when he is not, is what Sai does most of the time. That is her not giving importance to Virat's existence in her life and also questioning his instincts and devotion for his own job/family members (Amey track and now this.) I want Sai to self inspect her flaws as well..We know Virat will and Virat mostly does, but Sai never apologizes nor does she reprimands herself/self introspect where she went wrong. Considering her decision in this case also would be the correct one ultimately, she would not be the one to regret or access herself or apologize..

I guess this will be the undercurrent of their separation, apart from the obvious one? Sai has to introspect on her flaws....she does not have any right to make unilateral decisions for Virat's sister, especially a mentally unstable one. But she won't. Because FL is always right..😒

Devi may have a mental illness but as a medical professional based on whatever they have shown us i can say that despite her mental illness she does demonstrate "capacity"to make decisions for herself. Capacity is what we use to decide if a patient can safely be treated on outpatient basis or if they need involuntary confinement because they cannot make decisions/maybe a threat to themselves/others or are unable to care for themselves. If they dont have capacity, they need a surrogate decision maker. In Devi's case that would default to her husband if she's married and if not, next in line is her mother BK

There are situations in psychiatric patients where they dont have "capacity" but in Devi's case she does. She is clear about what she wants. So even though she needs treatment for her psychiatric ailment she is not in a state where she cannot make decisions. Its often a tricky concept to understand but not all psychiatric illness translates into inability to care/make decisions for oneself.

I agree with those who are saying that Sai did wrong by moving ahead with the marriage,not taking Virat’s approval. Having said that I oppose the punishment that would be pronounced by Virat that is to throw her out of the house. If the marriage is done,Virat and family should first take care of the situation to handle the damage if it has happened to Devi through this marriage.Since it is a fake letter family won’t bother but Virat has to and eventually it seems he would do so. Throwing the wife out of the house and his life because she took the wrong step goes against the principle of marriage even if it happened through a deal.He can exhibit his anger by avoiding her or with silent treatment.

Originally posted by: neeraja91

Devi may have a mental illness but as a medical professional based on whatever they have shown us i can say that despite her mental illness she does demonstrate "capacity"to make decisions for herself. Capacity is what we use to decide if a patient can safely be treated on outpatient basis or if they need involuntary confinement because they cannot make decisions/maybe a threat to themselves/others or are unable to care for themselves. If they dont have capacity, they need a surrogate decision maker. In Devi's case that would default to her husband if she's married and if not, next in line is her mother BK

There are situations in psychiatric patients where they dont have "capacity" but in Devi's case she does. She is clear about what she wants. So even though she needs treatment for her psychiatric ailment she is not in a state where she cannot make decisions. Its often a tricky concept to understand but not all psychiatric illness translates into inability to care/make decisions for oneself.

Devyani definitely has the capacity to make decisions about her mental health , treatment and her life !!! She is not mentally sound totally but yes is competent!!!!

And as long as patient is competent enough to make decisions we don't depend on nominated representative. They are even eligible for independent admissions. Only in case of minors we will need a guardian which is not applicable here since she is an adult. But I am not sure what is the law in case of marriages ????

Janki didi should clear this legal aspect.

Originally posted by: neeraja91

Devi may have a mental illness but as a medical professional based on whatever they have shown us i can say that despite her mental illness she does demonstrate "capacity"to make decisions for herself. Capacity is what we use to decide if a patient can safely be treated on outpatient basis or if they need involuntary confinement because they cannot make decisions/maybe a threat to themselves/others or are unable to care for themselves. If they dont have capacity, they need a surrogate decision maker. In Devi's case that would default to her husband if she's married and if not, next in line is her mother BK

There are situations in psychiatric patients where they dont have "capacity" but in Devi's case she does. She is clear about what she wants. So even though she needs treatment for her psychiatric ailment she is not in a state where she cannot make decisions. Its often a tricky concept to understand but not all psychiatric illness translates into inability to care/make decisions for oneself.

I understand what you are saying. But in the eyes of law, to 'validate' the marriage, this formal analysis of her mental condition will need to be made --it will be ordered by the competent court. So until that is made and the court is satisfied that she is indeed in a state of mind to express her will, the marriage will remain 'void' under Section 11 of the Hindu Marriage Act. For such a process to take place and the marriage be upheld, one needs time but what Sai (and Virat) and Pulkit are shown to be doing is just impulsive.

So if Pulkit has proof of a previous marriage, he should have fought for Devyani's custody right in the beginning and proven that she has been held in wrongful confinement. If he doesn't have it, as it seems, then Bhavani is the legal guardian in the case and she has the legal rights (even if morally wrong) to get back Devyani and book anyone who tries to help her 'elope' for abduction. Because, law only sees the evidence only. Sadly IPS and his almost-IPS biwi have brains in deep freeze in this matter

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

I agree with those who are saying that Sai did wrong by moving ahead with the marriage,not taking Virat’s approval. Having said that I oppose the punishment that would be pronounced by Virat that is to throw her out of the house. If the marriage is done,Virat and family should first take care of the situation to handle the damage if it has happened to Devi through this marriage.Since it is a fake letter family won’t bother but Virat has to and eventually it seems he would do so. Throwing the wife out of the house and his life because she took the wrong step goes against the principle of marriage even if it happened through a deal.He can exhibit his anger by avoiding her or with silent treatment.

Yes, I agree with you. Whatever is being done is impulsive. The wedding as well as the eventual throwing out. I really wish we didn't know this story. It would have made the viewing experience better. That is why one must never read the last pages of the book before journeying through the beginning and the middle...

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

In his mind, he is not in 'love' but he immensely likes her, is attracted to her, wants her to be around him and in front of his eyes all the time. He won't utter the word "love" until he actually gets to a point where he can question his own feelings. It's strange to hear because he's the one who asked her "Kya is ghar mein aisa koi aur bhi hai jisse tum pyaar Karti ho?... Mujh se bhi Nahi?" And he's the one who told her "Tumne mujhe hanesha ehsaas dilaya hai ki tum mujhse shaadi Nahi Karna chahti thi,pyaar Nahi Karti thi..."

I would say there are two reasons for this (would love to hear others adding more)

1. He's yet to see it as the 'love' that happens between husband and wife; he describes their love as "ek doosre Ka accha chahne wale"... It could be because he's just about one step away from feeling that way and so the push to actually acknowledge her unspoken love for him and then be certain that he's also in love with her will come when they are apart. The breaking of the barrier that holds back even the self - acknowledgment of the feeling. One has to be convinced in their own minds before saying it to the other.

2. He does have conflict phobia.

There is a reason why he is the way he is. He hasn't answered the questions she has asked in their fights. They are questions that will force him to confront his own ideals -- the promise that he has conveniently forgotten. He just wants to move on without answering those questions and trying to avoid that conflict. Because it will need a convincing reason to explain why he's breaking the promise that made him place the barriers between Sai and him-- she won't be convinced with simple answers. It's not going to be easy to admit that 'love' until he's ready to face this interrogation even though he's almost there....

If anyone else has any other perspective, it would be lovely to hear

Virat was in love with the idea of love .. he convinced himself he was in love with pakhi .. when he met her .. sunny egged him to name the infatuation as love .. and it’s a heady feeling..

When he met her next .. he lost her to his cousin .. it gave him a devdas kind of vibe .. and her tears moved him .. and he made those amazing promises

But he ran to save sayi .. then in GC .. he was busy with many things .. young lost love was there .. what with pakhi calling him regularly..

I found it funny when sayi asked the milkman virat .. that he scolds her Abd gives her lecture .. he said he is not like that with close friends.. then she says does your friend pakhi think like that .. where had pakhi seen virat .. she did not even know his name ..

Pakhi virat barely knew each other ..

When virat got married to sayi .. he obviously gave her the tall promises ..and called pakhi to attend his wedding .. why would u do that .. to do more drama .. and give it a devdas wala vibe ..

grand setting for maha Tyag.. and sayi took it very seriously..

Now 2 weeks of living with pakhi in the same house ..his attraction started to wean off from her .. he started getting more attracted to his green sari firebrand .. who’s witty and has more spunk than anybody in the house .. pakhi started looking more abd more bland to him ..

With instances of Amey n Aniket his mask of treating sayi as immature was totally gone .. he understands his wife is a child woman .. who has the instincts to flirt n tease .. Amey incident was a harmless episode .. but virat understood clearly .. his wife can play love games ..

since then he has been fully alert on his wife front abd has forgotten every Vaada given to others .. he has been throwing lines on love and all .. because he wants sayi to fall for him ..

so I feel .. virat gave the Vaada to vahini like a young boy .. who is passionate and filmy .. in love with the idea if love .. did not know anything about pakhi .. not even her name .. and was waxing deep platitudes

Now that he is seeing pakhi regularly .. where do we see him having deep conversations with her .. he is always cutting her conversation to just business .. there us nothing to show he enjoys her company.. Infact he was terrified of going alone to Ladakh with her .... like bore ho jayega .. that is why he has forgotten the promise ..he knows he screwed up that time and wants to just forget it