Kuch pa kar khona hai, kuch kho kar pana hai.. - Page 5

Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Awesome post as usual. The episode was good since it bought out the real faces and crimes of the so called cultural Chavans. So, the three monkeys of the family Bhavani, Ninad and Omi who talk about discipline and respect are far away from any such thing. And, of course their favourite bahu is always waiting to pounce on Sayi whether she's right or wrong. And, Sonali don't know what to say. If anything has got to do with Sayi she will be ready to stand opposite her. It is so appalling. Didn't like Pulkit putting all the blame on Sayi. Couldn't he have given another reason? Why couldn't he cover up for her? After all he was able to enter Chavan Niwas and meet Devyani only because of her. Shivani speaking up isn't surprising but Mansi voicing her opinion is quite surprising. And, Sayi has plunged into the fire without thinking twice. I was hoping she would wait for Virat. Well! I hope Virat enters on time to witness the cruelty meted on Devyani and stops his Father from slapping Sayi.

Pulkit telling the family about Sai really surprised me, especially since he knows what the Chavans are like and she has even told him about the details of the nature of her marriage. He really came across as a selfish man in that moment. All his feelings of not being able to wait to see Devyani are understood but he could have done it without compromising Sai, when he knew that eventually they will have to admit that Devyani is in the house.

I don't think Ninad's action will sit well with Virat because just the night before he has promised Sai that such things won't happen again. How he responds to Ninad is what one has to see...

Originally posted by: ppnn7191

Janki!!! Such a beautiful heart warming post.. the post truly reflects your kind and compassionate personality, though we hav never met...

That's a huge compliment. Thank you so much, although I don't know if i would live up to your expectations if we met in person. But we have met here ❤️🤗

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I agree with you about the fact that she's gone into this without waiting for him even now. Almost all of us agree on that...

@bold: It is true. She is the one who's 'feeling' in the marriage is not yet as strong as Virat's because her feeling is actually a reaction to Virat's conditions put before her. He has not communicated to her that he has removed those conditions. So even though she is touched by his caring gestures and she can see his efforts too, she is confused because from her perspective, he's doing it out of his good nature and not because he 'loves' her. She will continue to believe that until he replaces the zimmedari word with 'patni' not parivaar (because even vahini is parivaar) and 'farz' with 'pyaar'. It is sad that she feels that way but she can't be blamed for it entirely. She is at an age where she cannot read in between his profound lines -- and yes, she doesn't know if she should make assumptions either. But their next private interaction will actually tell us whether his declaration of leaving the house with her has made her change her perspective.

Also, I realised you asked a question on one of my previous posts about her sexual harassment. Yes, she was sexually harassed by Jagtap since she was 15, we have been told. He abducted her, confined her illegally, was about to forcefully marry her, molested her and even threatened her with marital rape. So, she has not really had a normal adolescence, crushing over boys. A lot of her indifference to the relationship also comes from her self-conditioning to maintain the distance from men, that is what I think. So while she's comfortable with Virat, she trusts him enough to share his private room and bed, there are walls that exist because of her past experiences too, in addition to the walls she has built to avoid her heart from breaking after a man who supposedly loves another woman. I would love to see her story in detail as they begin to come physically closer- her hesitation or not and how she reacts to the 'romantic' closeness whenever they reach that point. It will be a slow progress, I think.

@ Bold

True

Like I mentioned in one of the posts...Virat is not dealing with Sai as someone who is 18-19 year old girl , who might not really have any experience at all as far as actions of love are concerned. He wants her to understand his actions toward her. For him Pakhi is not someone who could be an issue in this relationship. His understanding has more to with how Sai has always hated him and right now is nice to him because he is taking care of her. He has time and again said tum mujhe kuch nahi maanti.. tum mujhe pasand nahi karti... By pasand he does not mean normal pasand but like in a different manner. He tries to drop hints here and there and also ask Sai directly/indirectly if she likes him or if he can be loved by her. However he needs to also understand Sai issue is with him being committed to Pakhi.She believes he still is committed to her. SHe had asked him to get a rose for Pakhi because she would be expecting him..instead of clearing the stance he went off getting pissed and got roses for everyone in the house. Virat standing for her against his family would make her thankful to him ..but not accept him as her husband.. She doesnt know this is the same family he had denied to leave or go against for Pakhi. SHe needs Virat to strictly stand against Pakhi for her to start breaking the wall.. She doesnt have an issue with Virat loving his family, she has an issue with him loving Pakhi. Virat is emotionally bogged down to understand Sai's issue with Pakhi... He thinks Sai not liking him..getting close toh him has to do with him.. and not Pakhi..He believes Pakhi is just a friend(Family member ) and since they dont have anything going on between them... Sai needs to see his actions towards Pakhi as well..

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Loved your take!

I actually was quite engaged with the episode. Even though at the back of my mind, that niggling feeling remained that Sai should've told Virat or at least hinted something.

The bond between Sai- Devi, Devi- Aai, Aai- Sai...I loved them all. Thu thu thu thu to their

bond😊

What is it with this serial..age, relationship, profession seems to be inversely proportional to maturity?!! How did Pulkit literally push Sai under the bus, even in his heightened state of hope, expectation and anger?

Anyways, this is the ITV license given I guess that the FL will be the frontline warrior for all the drama.

Pakhi, Pakhi....I can understand the Makad sena heaving a sigh of relief when Devi didn't recognise Pulkit? Why was she relieved? Or again, like someone mentioned earlier, I am not able to understand her Oscar level expression😆.

Tomorrow is the hero's entry.

Kya hoga?? I like this track. Multiple stories interweaved... Fingers crossed, they dont ruin it.

@bold: Hai na? I understand his need to meet Devyani at the first thought of having found her but given the experience he has had and the suffering they have both undergone, he should have been more mature than the 19 year old... He could have asked Sai to bring Virat into the picture instead of walking up to the family and declaring, "Sai ne mujhe sab bata diya hai" 🤔🤔

Originally posted by: spdp

Liked how daughters of the Chavans - the elder generation spoke for Devi.

Shivani, as usual, the on the point. Mansibua was pleasant surprise.

Makes me wonder if they all faced ruthless interference by their dictator Vahini & minion brothers.

They ridicule Shivani all the time. Devi's life is destroyed in criminal way by all. And who knows, Mansi also is being pushed in her room - so Bhavani can train her mini version to rule over the next-gen of pariwar.

Won't happen, but Sai should let this go through Chavans. Let buas, Virat & Mohit take stand. Virat needs to deal with this as an ACP. Wish Sai had mentioned bit more about Pulkit to Virat!

I think the daughters of the house understand that pain. They have both suffered in their marriages-- and they must have always had to hear taunts of 'returning home' and of course, it is not easy to be widowed/divorced in a rigid set up like that. I think it was also because the whole "image" of Bhavani being the protector of the family is getting shattered. Mansi knows Bhavani can have zidd -- but to this extent?

@bold: so true. I am curious about how Patralekha will even go against her actual mother-in-law to side with Bhavani just because she has to be close to the 'power centre'.

Originally posted by: msin

Janaki

you said it .. I was so so angry at Kaku , ninad .. that how could they do it .. then I thought property ka greed .. maybe Devyani is not Bhavana ka daughter .. Nagesh Chavan illegitimate daughter

then you mentioned Honour Killings .. and everything added up ..

Yes of course we have seen parents will fully destroy their children’s life because their choice of life partner is not suitable to them

Honour killing is an evil that crosses all 'compassion' and love that families should have for their own children. It is blindness for pride and reputation, image and all kinds of smug reasons. Even if it is not property (although your theory is very plausible), their absolute rigidity about 'pratishtha' and the khoon and class of the spouses of their children is nauseating.

no wonder they are out n about ruining karishma n sayis life ..

Like which is a happy marriage in CNiwas .. I don’t see any

May be only Omkar and Sonali -- because they are both dead in conscience.

I understand why virat begged off from pakhi .. after seeing her fixed with samrat .. he realised this is not happening any more

I don’t understand the sudden spine he had when he married sayi ..

Virat is not inherently a bad person -- he might have some toxic effects having lived in that kind of patriarchal setup but he has a conscience and a very vocal one. I think with Sai, it was this inexplicable connection -- he didn't want to lose her and he had no other way of keeping her under his eyes. He did not realise it, but it was a subconscious thought and that also transitioned as his dream of losing her and having to save her and hold her close. At some point, everyone is faced with a situation where there is something at stake and they can go about fighting for it without even knowing. Sai is that for Virat.

Virat has to be absent from the scenario when these people are threatening pulkit .. his presence as a law enforcement guy is grossly wrong ..But they should not have made him go on such a stupid excuse of getting bel Patra..

he should have been in pics station and made an appearance when Mohit sneakily gave him a sms .
That would have been better. I don't know why Mohit was not sent to bring the bel patras? Isn't he the one who runs errands? 🤔

Whether virat wants or not wants .. what ninad , Kaku and omi are threatening to do is lawfully wrong ..

So whatever may his personal thoughts may be .. he has to arrest them if they harm pulkit , sayi or Devyani..

It’s a criminal offence

True, which is why its even more baffling that Sai has not involved him -- it is a clear case of crime.

I am glad Shivani , ashwini , Mohit understood what sayi was doing on Sunday ..whether it’s wrong or right .. hubby virat will know his wife ka shenanigans.. IPS virat may behave prim n proper in the living room .. I hope hubby virat gives a sound off to sayi for doing all this on her own .. and the legal issues in this .. considering devi is mentally unstable

Sai told Bhavani, "You can't decide because Tai is Baalig"... it is an incorrect dialogue. Devyani in her present condition is not considered as a consenting adult. Not just age but mental condition also matters. In the eyes of law, she is incapable of deciding and so her natural guardian has all the rights to decide for her. May be that is also one of the reasons why she has been turned into a deranged woman, to have complete control on her. For Bhavani, control is all that matters.

Pakhi is really behaving like a class monitor .. today she was full on Mam.. these 2 are bunking class...
She came across as a joker with roses in her bun 🤣

Originally posted by: Roch

Yo Sister, awesome as always. I think i read the analysis first of all and then saw the episode. It was a good episode and no filler. Your analysis is bang on as always.

The story is progressing and they do stretch some scenes but its ok ITV mein hota hain. I see people cribbing of No Virat, well its better he is not there instead he standing there as a prop.

It is good to see, the people in the house know him but don't know if they were married. But Bhavani and gang did acknowledge that they did throw him away years back due to status.

Vahini cant stand for anyone in the house, all she can do is stand against Sai. So she was the one who actually confirmed to Pulkit that Devi tai is in the house. I did like Kaku's "Ye bolna zaruri tha".

I have a question - Vahini how much low will you stoop only to put an 18 year old down. She did not feel bad that a girl/woman was kept locked in her room. I find that thought from a so called independent girl strange.

Now that the lovers are face to face and the blame is going to go on Sai for bringing this out in open, need to see how this is handled further. Sai's fierce can be seen and support as well. Well in their anger, they did take a wrong step this time. Ninad raising his hand will be one reason for Virat supporting Sai's stand (hopefully). Lets see how it plays out.

@bold: But that is where we agree that she lacks the moral compass na... She has no sense of right and wrong because her 'image' that matters the most -- exactly what Bhavani is made of. All her susheelta and unchi soch is for display. It is really a statue of susheelta because it is shallow inside. She not only didn't feel bad for Devyani but was even questioning why did Sai release her from the confinement.

I would say Pulkit has compromised Sai's position by making it sound like Sai was the one who went to him to invite him to the house and to tell him about Devyani. Virat should not be supporting Sai because Ninad raised his hand but for the truth. But I would really want him to be mad at her in their private space for not telling him about it. She needs to know that she can confide and talk to him about such important things-- not can, but should.

Originally posted by: notaquitter

PLUS she would have never understood his job. I can imagine her asking him to make her the number one priority over his job . She would calling him 24x7 which she did during the GC days

Oh yes, that constant rant about "tum aa jao, mujhe tumhari zaroorat hai"... i think if they were married, he wouldn't have stayed in nagpur (in any case its a blooper that IPS is posted in home city) and they would have lived a life oblivious to the family's suffering/dynamics because she would have been least attached. Even now, her attachment is only superficial because she thinks she has a 'goal' of staying close to Virat and she cannot upset the power centre

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

@ Bold

True

Like I mentioned in one of the posts...Virat is not dealing with Sai as someone who is 18-19 year old girl , who might not really have any experience at all as far as actions of love are concerned. He wants her to understand his actions toward her. For him Pakhi is not someone who could be an issue in this relationship. His understanding has more to with how Sai has always hated him and right now is nice to him because he is taking care of her. He has time and again said tum mujhe kuch nahi maanti.. tum mujhe pasand nahi karti... By pasand he does not mean normal pasand but like in a different manner. He tries to drop hints here and there and also ask Sai directly/indirectly if she likes him or if he can be loved by her. However he needs to also understand Sai issue is with him being committed to Pakhi.She believes he still is committed to her. SHe had asked him to get a rose for Pakhi because she would be expecting him..instead of clearing the stance he went off getting pissed and got roses for everyone in the house. Virat standing for her against his family would make her thankful to him ..but not accept him as her husband.. She doesnt know this is the same family he had denied to leave or go against for Pakhi. SHe needs Virat to strictly stand against Pakhi for her to start breaking the wall.. She doesnt have an issue with Virat loving his family, she has an issue with him loving Pakhi. Virat is emotionally bogged down to understand Sai's issue with Pakhi... He thinks Sai not liking him..getting close toh him has to do with him.. and not Pakhi..He believes Pakhi is just a friend(Family member ) and since they dont have anything going on between them... Sai needs to see his actions towards Pakhi as well..

@bold: Exactly. That is now the 'miscommunication', which can be easily clarified in one conversation but it won't be ... Earlier it was the condition now it has turned into the biggest misconception. And that is why i don't agree with those who think Sai must take the first step and not Virat. She won't, unless he specifies that he has moved on and wants the marriage. He has to answer her direct question about the commitment, which she asked him in their private fight. She has asked him why is he marrying her if he doesn't 'love' her? It is time he answers those questions if he really wants her to understand his jalebis. Otherwise, as a 19 year old with a strong sense of self-respect, she will never bare her heart to him.

Lovely post ❤️

Not really in a right frame of mind to put my points

But few things felt absurd. Pulkit has literally dragged sai into this. Sai has told him about how chavans are even if she didnt detail it he knew enough about them to not put her as the planner for this meet.

Mansi voicing out is something that surpirsedme. Maybe it's the ghar ki beti emotion which she shares with her. But we need to wait to see how far she supports devyani and pulkit. Out of curiosity I watched a clip of Bengali version and shivani seemed to be a very strong pillar now for devi. Don't understand the dialogues so can't comment much.

Bhavani is such a vile woman. She still has this audacity to claim that she has all rights to make decisions for devyani. No wonder she seperated devi from her daughter.

Sai should have waited for virat's return 😑😑😑. He must see the dil ke ache family history with his own eyes 🙄