Kabir singh and the outrage - a long series of questions - Page 3

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

And since comparison is between Ranveer as Khilji and Shahid as Kabir I just want to say there is a difference between a strong character and glorification. Ranveer was a strong negative character in this movie. He wasn’t glorified. He had more screen space and strong scenes but he was still a negative character. There was no romantic music going on when Khilji was lusting after Padmavaati. Director and story didn’t want us to root for Khilji and Padmaavati. But in Kabir singh he is not a strong negative character he is strong heroic character that audience is supposed to root for and hence it’s glorification. Director and story want the audience to want Kabir to get his happy ending. That is the difference . I don’t care how much Kabir suffers he suffered because he is an idiotic psychopath not because he realised he was wrong . Tell me what happens in the end is Kabir a changed man ? Isn’t he still the person with regressive mindset and anger management issues who will again slap Preeti if he doesn’t get his way?

That in itself was glorification ...when you name the movie after female historical character but that character remains just a side character and the one who should be hero, ratan singh, is reduced to just aan baan shaan dialogues with misogynistic views where women are supposed to not to take any other decisions and not participate in any other thing apart from household , movie remains one man show " khilji" who in the end destroys the kingdom, everyone dies because of him and he remains fit and fine what more was there to no be achieved 🤔

^^ Dev D had the best ending for all these alcoholic tragic heroes

^^ that I agree they should have spent more time on showing him coming to terms with his attitude problems ....even when he goes to her in the end it’s like he’s wanting to rescue her from her marriage.... 😂

I think he actually changes when he realises Preeti was in much more hell Than he was (when he hugs that Preetis caretaker woman)....and she went through it with her dignity intact .... but of course that happens at the end so we don’t get to see enough of him getting his reality check...which is totally frustrating ...I agree

Originally posted by: angrybread

That in itself was glorification ...when you name the movie after female historical character but that character remains just a side character and the one who should be hero, ratan singh, is reduced to just aan baan shaan dialogues with misogynistic views where women are supposed to not to take any other decisions and not participate in any other thing apart from household , movie remains one man show " khilji" who in the end destroys the kingdom, everyone dies because of him and he remains fit and fine what more was there to no be achieved 🤔

the movie showed khilji as the loser in the end, his goal throughout the film was to get padmavati and he didn't achieve it. look at the final shot of khilji in the film, he is distressed, screaming and padmavati has a brave courageous look on her face, coz the hero of the film is padmavati, she saves ratan singh, she goes through jauahar so that she doesn't get captured by khilji and his army

Originally posted by: zara321

the movie showed khilji as the loser in the end, his goal throughout the film was to get padmavati and he didn't achieve it. look at the final shot of khilji in the film, he is distressed, screaming and padmavati has a brave courageous look on her face, coz the hero of the film is padmavati, she saves ratan singh, she goes through jauahar so that she doesn't get captured by khilji and his army

You might see it that way but i see it as part of khilji's long series of successful conquest , no body remains alive in chittaur- padmavati,raja ratan singh, women, children, men... no one .

Padmavati was not her love but just an ego so what if one of his ego is not achieved ...uski nahi to kisi aur ki bhi nahi , he will move on and find someone else while chaittaur is defeated, destroyed looted and killed

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

that’s not one silver lining 😆it’s the only thing he wanted. His passion and his obsession was that girl and he got it. See every character has an arc and arc completed when one realises their mistake and goes through the consequences and emerges as a better person. If the movie had ended with Kabir being alone realising that there is more to life than his obsession and given more respect to the people around him like his friends I would have still liked it. But the movie showed that Kabir’s kind of love will eventually win in the end and that the girl will love you no matter what just makes me sick.

But see the same machismo and masculinity he prided on is challenged in the end when he’s the blubbering mess with no career and she’s the independent woman...who he will prolly rely on financially at least...going forward

She should have totes left him....Like I said that’s the best ending for the film...but I like that he’s made to look like an idiot in the end ...even though he gets what he wants

Originally posted by: angrybread

That in itself was glorification ...when you name the movie after female historical character but that character remains just a side character and the one who should be hero, ratan singh, is reduced to just aan baan shaan dialogues with misogynistic views where women are supposed to not to take any other decisions and not participate in any other thing apart from household , movie remains one man show " khilji" who in the end destroys the kingdom, everyone dies because of him and he remains fit and fine what more was there to no be achieved 🤔

Look at those after ranveer now it’s the character khilji from the 13 Th century to be compared with arjun reddy from 2017.

khilji was used to getting everything he wanted, and for the first time he didn't get the one thing he wanted more than anything, and that was padmavati, he did the war only to get her, and the fact that he failed to do wat he set out to achieve made him the biggest loser. will he move on from it? we don't know that coz we don't see what happens next, but from what we are shown in the film he is the one who ends up as the loser and padmavati the winner, yes its not a happy ending for anyone, its still tragic for padmavati, but the whole jauahar scene was shown as padmavati fighting against the clutches of khilji and his army, the women of chittor are even shown throwing hot coals onto khilji, it showed their bravery and confidence to fight back against an evil chauvinistic dictator

Originally posted by: pathaka

But see the same machismo and masculinity he prided on is challenged in the end when he’s the blubbering mess with no career and she’s the independent woman...who he will prolly rely on financially at least...going forward

She should have totes left him....Like I said that’s the best ending for the film...but I like that he’s made to look like an idiot in the end ...even though he gets what he wants