Jodha Akbar 34-36: Shaahi Shaadi - Page 5

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear (what is your name, if you do not mind?),

Thank you so much for liking this one such a lot, and for the part 1 of your comments too.

Yes, the muh dikhayi was lavishly presented, the overhead shots were wonderful, and the flashback to the Gangaur scene was perfect. As Lavanya (Sabdabhala) has pointed out on page 1 above, Jalal, as he circles the basin of water, must have been thinking exactly the same thing. whence his pleased smile!

Jodha looked gorgeous, perhaps her best so far, with those wide, shocked eyes in a drawn face. I agree that from now on she will need a lot of guts and determination, but also good judgement and commonsense. She has plenty of the first two but very little of the second, alas! If this had not been the case, she would never have burnt the shaadi ka joda.

I shall look out for Parts 2 & 3 of your comments.

Shyamala Aunty

Wonderful analysis Aunty. Love love love all these Shaadi episodes.

Originally posted by: devkidmd

The shartein, it may not have been so dramatic in real life but I do think there is something to it. There is a strong possibility that Jodha asked for her religious freedom before the marriage happened. There is no way that Akbar offered it to her on his own. And I don't think Bharmal was in a position to ask for anything except for his son and nephews and protection from Sharif.

Devki

Originally posted by: myviewprem

All of Akbars wife converted to islam before marriage

In islam and all judaism religions you cannot marry a different religion person if you do not convert

So for all official purpose and outside world the wives were muslims not hindus

Even Hira Kunwari converted to islam- its not true she remained hindu as being potrayed

Inside agra fort they all followed their religious practices and also their festivals like holi, diwali, dusserha and rakhi

I doubt jodha had that much power to put any shartein or ask anything to akbar for initial few years

That was because even Humayun, Bairam Khan etc married in other religions to expand the mughal empire

Rahim, Bairam Khan's son was born to a lady that belonged to Lord Krishna's family. Rahim was tutored in hindu philosophy and was a Krishna follower from beginning(as his mom belonged to that family and not because Hira Kunwari introduced him to Lord Krishna etc)

Originally posted by: devkidmd

Prem,

When you convert to Islam you cannot, simply cannot idol worship. Period. You say they converted but still prayed to Krishna and followed hindu traditions? I just do not buy that. Things may be a little arbitrary now but back then not so much. And even if she did convert, she was still allowed to worship her own way right? How did that happen? Did Akbar out of the magnanimity of his heart tell her to do that?

Which wife of Humayun's was hindu? Bairam Khan wife's family was said to have descended from Lord Krishna's family. But her ancestors had converted to Islam long back. She was in no way raised as a hindu or as a Krishna follower. To say that she belonged to Lord Krishna's family is a serious misrepresentation of facts in my opinion.

Rahim's mother was the daughter of Jamal Khan of Mewat.

Devki

Originally posted by: myviewprem

All of Akbars wife converted to islam before marriage

In islam and all judaism religions you cannot marry a different religion person if you do not convert

So for all official purpose and outside world the wives were muslims not hindus

Even Hira Kunwari converted to islam- its not true she remained hindu as being potrayed

Inside agra fort they all followed their religious practices and also their festivals like holi, diwali, dusserha and rakhi

I doubt jodha had that much power to put any shartein or ask anything to akbar for initial few years.

Because Akbar was a casanova till his late 30s atleast and was not one woman man to listen only to jodha. All this freedom he gave his wives was a political tactic to assuage the rajpuths. And he married two three more rajputh princess in same year he married Hira Kunwari. So we cannot conclusively say he allowed freedom listening to her. That was a well thought out political strategy and there is no gaurantee that he immediately allowed his wives to follow religious freedom. May be through the months and years he slowly allowed them religious freedom to get more rajpuths into matrimonial alliance with him.

Rahim, Bairam Khan's son was born to a lady that belonged to Lord Krishna's family. Rahim was tutored in hindu philosophy and was a Krishna follower from beginning(as his mom belonged to that family and not because Hira Kunwari introduced him to Lord Krishna etc)

prem i agree with you and i strongly believe Akbar was not a one woman man and was a casanova till mid thirties but i guess with age and esp when salim was born his closeness and trust might have been grown with jodha over time, but he was an alpha male and no joru ka ghulam as shown in the show and why would he be when he had a paltoon of women at his disposal but he believed in maintaining good relations not only with rajputs but all sectors and was secular in true sense and i would say the transitions were not just because of jodha, they were innate and he was an intelligent and strategic person, he very well knew what he was doing !

and also the false story portrayed in the serial is taken word for word from indu's the twentieth wife which is based on salim noor's love story! since there is no material on jodha and akbar's love saga the material is taken from another novel and how jodha saves akbar from britishers which is the joke of the century is exactly taken from that book which explains a scenario how noor saves salim when he was almost dying!

Originally posted by: myviewprem

All of Akbars wife converted to islam before marriage

In islam and all judaism religions you cannot marry a different religion person if you do not convert

So for all official purpose and outside world the wives were muslims not hindus

Even Hira Kunwari converted to islam- its not true she remained hindu as being potrayed

Inside agra fort they all followed their religious practices and also their festivals like holi, diwali, dusserha and rakhi

I doubt jodha had that much power to put any shartein or ask anything to akbar for initial few years.

Because Akbar was a casanova till his late 30s atleast and was not one woman man to listen only to jodha. All this freedom he gave his wives was a political tactic to assuage the rajpuths. And he married two three more rajputh princess in same year he married Hira Kunwari. So we cannot conclusively say he allowed freedom listening to her. That was a well thought out political strategy and there is no gaurantee that he immediately allowed his wives to follow religious freedom. May be through the months and years he slowly allowed them religious freedom to get more rajpuths into matrimonial alliance with him.

Rahim, Bairam Khan's son was born to a lady that belonged to Lord Krishna's family. Rahim was tutored in hindu philosophy and was a Krishna follower from beginning(as his mom belonged to that family and not because Hira Kunwari introduced him to Lord Krishna etc)

prem i agree with you and i strongly believe Akbar was not a one woman man and was a casanova till mid thirties but i guess with age and esp when salim was born his closeness and trust might have been grown with jodha over time, but he was an alpha male and no joru ka ghulam as shown in the show and why would he be when he had a paltoon of women at his disposal but he believed in maintaining good relations not only with rajputs but all sectors and was secular in true sense and i would say the transitions were not just because of jodha, they were innate and he was an intelligent and strategic person, he very well knew what he was doing !

and also the false story portrayed in the serial is taken word for word from indu's the twentieth wife which is based on salim noor's love story! since there is no material on jodha and akbar's love saga the material is taken from another novel and how jodha saves akbar from britishers which is the joke of the century is exactly taken from that book which explains a scenario how noor saves salim when he was almost dying!
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Hahahaha and the debate goes on - my suggestion - let each believe what they feel in their hearts - because today none of us will know what really Akbar did or didn't do - unless we find some diary of his that he kept and wrote - and that would be a miracle in many many ways 😉😆