Bhool Bhulaiyaa 3 opens bigger than Singham in the morning shows..BOI - Page 8

Originally posted by: you2

If Ranveer can make Rocky and Simbba loveable.( Can't think of anyone else who can do that today, pushing it to OTT and still getting away with it).He can do anything. It just shows that public has embraced him. Simbba is not only Shetty's highest grosser,so far, it is his most profitable film, because of the low budget.

Many of the characters Ranveer plays are characters I wouldn't normally gel with in real life. Like his Ram from Ram Leela, Rocky from Rocky aur Rani, Simmba, etc. but Ranveer has the ability to take OTT characters and make them both lovable and realistic. I had no idea that Simmba is Rohit Shetty's highest gross film to date. That's all on Ranveer.

What I've found is that these self-made stars are held to a much higher standard in the industry. The Aishwaryas, Deepikas, Ranveers, and Kartiks are never granted the grace that the nepokids are given. Every failure they have is scrutinized to a level the nepokids never have to deal with as there's a double standard at play here. Nepokids can fail 8-12 times in a row and they still get film offers like Jhanvi and Arjun. Kartik's Shehzada flops and the entire industry claims his career is over. They did this with Aish with some of her flops and also with Deepika's Chhapaak and Ranveer's Cirkus. Then they get attacked for their aggressive PR. Well they need to have aggressive PR just to survive in this industry where all the odds are stacked against them and everyone is actively rooting for them to fail.

Have we forgotten that KJo actually said he wanted to murder Anushka's career when she debuted and was trying to convince Adi not to cast Ranveer in Band Baaja Baaraat. He also tried to get Adi to replace Anushka with Sonam in Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi.

Try to make nice with the movie mafia and you get stabbed in the back. KJo actively sabotaged Deepika's Gehraiyaan. I've posted about Dharma's social media head pitting Deepika's Gehraiyaan vs Alia's Brahmastra in a Twitter poll. Deepika won so the poll was deleted. Why is Dharma promoting a non-Dharma film over their own film?

Then KJo downplayed Ranveer in Rocky aur Rani because Ranveer got all the accolades over Alia. KJo actively tried to replace Kriti in Dilwale with Alia, but Rohit Shetty stood his ground and refused.

I only recently found out that Parineeti turned down either Dear Zindagi or Piku because KJo promised her a film with Ranbir so he booked her dates and then never made the movie to destroy her career. Also notice how Aish in ADHM, Parineeti in Hasee Toh Phasee and Deepika in Gehraiyaan never got Filmare nods. It's because those were Dharma films and Dharma was not campaigning for them. This is the same fraudy KJo who claimed he felt he underutilized Aish in ADHM and wanted to give her a film where she was the lead. Who, even a year ago, was asked which actor he wants to work with again and said he wants to work with Ranveer again. But then he actively sabotages these actors.

Sushant tried to play nice with the nepogang and he was stabbed in the back multiple times. Always treated like a joke on KWK and useless nepos like Kareena were actively telling even more useless nepos like Sara not to start any relationship with him because he's a nobody.

Kartik tried to play nice with the nepokids too and KJo tried to destroy him with Dostana 2 but failed. I think he's learned now to distance himself. I've noticed Aish, Deepika, and Ranveer have also heavily distanced themselves from KJo after realizing he's not genuine. Even SRK and Kajol seem to only tolerate KJo now. He doesn't have that same level of comfort with them anymore, like him stating that he didn't feel he could ask SRK for a cameo in Rocky aur Rani since he had already asked him to cameo in Brahmastra.

Tripti and Vicky need to learn now that KJo will never have their best interests in heart. To stay as far away from him as possible.

Originally posted by: forza

Super star? My foot

without BB films, his only 100 cr film was sonu ke titu ki sweety wich happened nearly 7 years ago and you calling him a super star

Exactly

He is indeed nothing without piggybacking on the BB series! How people are conveniently forgetting his recent disasters like Satyaprem, Chandu Champion and Shehzada(to name a few) is totally absurd

New age superstar? My foot!

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

Why is no one calling out the fact that Rohit Shetty and SA are posting fake reviews. Fake 5-star reviews for their film and fake low-star reviews for BB3 to try and tank its critical reputation.

And they are even posting AI-created reviews.

Lol it's funny how defensive you are of your fav if anyone calls her out, even calling people who criticize her crazy and obsessive, but you're the first to go after Kartik.

Stick with your flowerpot actress who 80% of her filmography is composed of non-existent roles where she's got maybe 15 minutes of screentime. That's her standard film as Singham Again proves where she's got nothing to do but leeches off of actual stars so she can claim she delivered a hit. When she's not doing that, she does the occasional solo film which is not just a box office flop but in fact a box office disaster. Your fav had a box office disaster that was beaten by a re-release of Tumbbad!

Imagine being a so-called star and having a re-release of an old film with NO stars beating you.

https://www.indiaforums.com/article/sohum-shahs-tumbbad-rerelease-beats-kareena-kapoors-the-buckingham-murders-at-the-box-office_211430

You keep proving your self again and again

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

2024 will go down as a groundbreaking year. Both Shraddha and Kartik have shaken up the industry. He single-handedly stood up against all of Bollywood and has held his own. In fact, going by the overseas numbers, it seems like BB3 is outperforming Singham Again abroad.

Kartik has gained both commercial and critical success. And without spoilers, he's done this with a very socially progressive message that could easily have been rejected. There's a reason the right-wing are trying to push Singham Again for being the non-woke choice. And the SA team is resorting to bots posting negative reviews to try and destroy BB3 critically since they can't succeed commercially.

I made the above post in another thread about the impact of Shraddha and Stree 2 on the industry but now that can more or less apply to Kartik and BB3 as well. BW still hadn't figured out how to handle Stree's success and then suddenly they got another setback with BB3. The familiar power players are losing and have no clout anymore.

He onsced wa Called Bollywood savior after BB, But it turned out he needed another BB to save him self

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

Many of the characters Ranveer plays are characters I wouldn't normally gel with in real life. Like his Ram from Ram Leela, Rocky from Rocky aur Rani, Simmba, etc. but Ranveer has the ability to take OTT characters and make them both lovable and realistic. I had no idea that Simmba is Rohit Shetty's highest gross film to date. That's all on Ranveer.

What I've found is that these self-made stars are held to a much higher standard in the industry. The Aishwaryas, Deepikas, Ranveers, and Kartiks are never granted the grace that the nepokids are given. Every failure they have is scrutinized to a level the nepokids never have to deal with as there's a double standard at play here. Nepokids can fail 8-12 times in a row and they still get film offers like Jhanvi and Arjun. Kartik's Shehzada flops and the entire industry claims his career is over. They did this with Aish with some of her flops and also with Deepika's Chhapaak and Ranveer's Cirkus. Then they get attacked for their aggressive PR. Well they need to have aggressive PR just to survive in this industry where all the odds are stacked against them and everyone is actively rooting for them to fail.

Have we forgotten that KJo actually said he wanted to murder Anushka's career when she debuted and was trying to convince Adi not to cast Ranveer in Band Baaja Baaraat. He also tried to get Adi to replace Anushka with Sonam in Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi.

Try to make nice with the movie mafia and you get stabbed in the back. KJo actively sabotaged Deepika's Gehraiyaan. I've posted about Dharma's social media head pitting Deepika's Gehraiyaan vs Alia's Brahmastra in a Twitter poll. Deepika won so the poll was deleted. Why is Dharma promoting a non-Dharma film over their own film?

Then KJo downplayed Ranveer in Rocky aur Rani because Ranveer got all the accolades over Alia. KJo actively tried to replace Kriti in Dilwale with Alia, but Rohit Shetty stood his ground and refused.

I only recently found out that Parineeti turned down either Dear Zindagi or Piku because KJo promised her a film with Ranbir so he booked her dates and then never made the movie to destroy her career. Also notice how Aish in ADHM, Parineeti in Hasee Toh Phasee and Deepika in Gehraiyaan never got Filmare nods. It's because those were Dharma films and Dharma was not campaigning for them. This is the same fraudy KJo who claimed he felt he underutilized Aish in ADHM and wanted to give her a film where she was the lead. Who, even a year ago, was asked which actor he wants to work with again and said he wants to work with Ranveer again. But then he actively sabotages these actors.

Sushant tried to play nice with the nepogang and he was stabbed in the back multiple times. Always treated like a joke on KWK and useless nepos like Kareena were actively telling even more useless nepos like Sara not to start any relationship with him because he's a nobody.

Kartik tried to play nice with the nepokids too and KJo tried to destroy him with Dostana 2 but failed. I think he's learned now to distance himself. I've noticed Aish, Deepika, and Ranveer have also heavily distanced themselves from KJo after realizing he's not genuine. Even SRK and Kajol seem to only tolerate KJo now. He doesn't have that same level of comfort with them anymore, like him stating that he didn't feel he could ask SRK for a cameo in Rocky aur Rani since he had already asked him to cameo in Brahmastra.

Tripti and Vicky need to learn now that KJo will never have their best interests in heart. To stay as far away from him as possible.

I feel Ash career was sabotaged badly or she could do 10-20 more A grade movies between 2001-2007 when she was very active

Ranveer Singh should have never worked with KJo in Rocky and Rani

Deepika has used brains and not really worked with KJo and Aditya Chopra or with Salman and Amir all toxic ppl of bollywood who can destroy others careers easily if something goes wrong between her and them except for that odd movie. That could be a reason today shes still on top. Except SRK and Saif shes not worked with amir, salman, akshay, ajay etc all top stars of 1990s if you observe her career. Akshay and ajay shes done one movie with them in initial phase of career not later. Unlike katrina who worked with most top 90s heroes even sunny deol, bobby deol

Its not only nepos they destroyed. In 1990s bollywood insiders like Bobby deol, akshay khanna, amir, ajay never offered a chance to work with Chopras and KJO movies or the directors who came from their stables. For bobby a reason could be Sunny fought with SRK and Yash Chopra on Darr sets after he realized that villan was being shown as hero and more footage to SRK.

I do not think karthik, shradda etc are great actors yet their movies should be watched by audience so that only nepos like jhanvi, ananya, sara, shanaya do not dominate bollywood next decade

Originally posted by: myviewprem

I feel Ash career was sabotaged badly or she could do 10-20 more A grade movies between 2001-2007 when she was very active

Ranveer Singh should have never worked with KJo in Rocky and Rani

Deepika has used brains and not really worked with KJo and Aditya Chopra or with Salman and Amir all toxic ppl of bollywood who can destroy others careers easily if something goes wrong between her and them except for that odd movie. That could be a reason today shes still on top. Except SRK and Saif shes not worked with amir, salman, akshay, ajay etc all top stars of 1990s if you observe her career. Akshay and ajay shes done one movie with them in initial phase of career not later. Unlike katrina who worked with most top 90s heroes even sunny deol, bobby deol

Its not only nepos they destroyed. In 1990s bollywood insiders like Bobby deol, akshay khanna, amir, ajay never offered a chance to work with Chopras and KJO movies or the directors who came from their stables. For bobby a reason could be Sunny fought with SRK and Yash Chopra on Darr sets after he realized that villan was being shown as hero and more footage to SRK.

I do not think karthik, shradda etc are great actors yet their movies should be watched by audience so that only nepos like jhanvi, ananya, sara, shanaya do not dominate bollywood next decade

Pretty much every major film from that era was offered to Aish first. Gadar, K3G, Main Hoon Na, Chalte Chalte, KANK, Veer-Zaara, Munna Bhai, Fanaa, Bajirao Mastani, Padmaavat, etc. The first two Aish herself turned down and same with Munna Bhai. The rest she lost because of the Khans boycotting her, namely SRK and Aamir. Salman never boycotted her as he begged her to do Bajirao Mastani with him. Aish said that he would pretend to be Bhansali on the phone and ask her to do the film but she saw through the ruse and wouldn't work with him. Padmaavat she did agree to do because she wouldn't have any scenes with Salman (like Deepika had no scenes with Ranveer). But Salman refused to do the movie unless he had scenes with Aishwarya and if the ending was changed so Alauddin Khilji and Rani Padmavati ended up together.

I liked the Rocky role for Ranveer. I think it will go down as an audience favorite. But I agree he shouldn't work with KJo and Alia because they will always turn the narrative against him. They have no good feelings towards him. They sabotaged Deepika with Gehraiyaan as well.

Deepika did some early YRF films in her career like Bachna Ae Haseeno and Lafangey Parindey but that was it until Pathaan, which I'm sure she did because of SRK. She was also first choice for Dhoom 3 but Aamir rejected her. Similarly with KJo, she did Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani and Gehraiyaan but mostly stayed away from him. She had a good pairing with Saif early on. His films all started flopping except his Deepika ones which are his last hits (besides Tanhaji with Ajay and Kajol). But she outgrew him by becoming a much bigger star. I've never even seen her early movies with Akshay because they seem terrible. Deepika was always very selective on her choice of hero and she said that after 2013, she became such a big star that she could choose her own heroes. Whereas normally in BW, heroes choose the heroine.

Yes, good point that many 90s stars were also not offered work with the Chopras and KJo. Akshay did the special appearance in Dil To Pagal Hai and I heard he was not paid for it. Apparently Yash Chopra told Akshay it was an honor for Akshay to just be in one of his movies and he's not paying Akshay. Aamir was actually supposed to do the lead role in Dil To Pagal Hai but that was because Yash Chopra was notoriously stingy about paying actors. SRK asked for a larger fee after DDLJ and Yash Chopra got annoyed and decided to replace him with Aamir. But then he went back to SRK.

Aamir was never a fan of SRK and KJo. He did Yash Raj's Fanaa which was meant for Aishwarya. Aamir was ticked off that she had refused his Mangal Pandey (Aish claims she did not refuse and was set to do it but he kicked her out) and so he ordered her removed from Fanaa. He wanted Kajol to play the lead because he wanted to gloat to SRK and KJo that their Kajol chose to work with him in Fanaa instead of with them in KANK.

Ajay also had some planned collaborations with KJo, all with Kajol. KANK's original casting was SRK/Aish as the married couple and Kajol/Ajay as the other married couple. Kajol and Ajay would have been playing the Rani and Abhishek roles. Ajay refused because he wouldn't do a movie where Kajol picks SRK over him. Kalank was also originally planned with SRK, Kajol, and Ajay as the romantic triangle. Ajay would be playing the Aditya Roy Kapoor husband role but Kalank was scrapped.

Bobby Deol on KWK actually called out KJo. Said he asked him for work during his lull period and KJo never got back to him. I don't know if Bobby was ever asked to do any YRF films but Dharmendra actually turned down the VZ Amitabh Bachchan role because of what Yash Chopra did to Sunny. Dharmendra had no problems with Yash Chopra but he knew Sunny was on bad terms with him so out of loyalty towards his son, he rejected the part to be paired with Hema Malini (she obviously felt no loyalty towards her stepson).

Going back to Deepika being rejected for Dhoom 3 by Aamir, it's Aamir's trend to reject any heroines who may outshine him. Look at all the threads on Rangeela here and how everyone agrees that was Urmila's movie, not Aamir's. Similarly, BOI had an article saying how Aamir was outshined by all his heroines in his 90s classic movies, like Madhuri in Dil, Urmila in Rangeela, Karishma in Raja Hindustani, and Juhi in all their movies together. Happened again with Kajol in Fanaa. Aamir is thus very choicy about his heroines and makes sure he picks weak actresses who will not upstage him. It's way he's never once worked with Deepika and Priyanka or even considered them for roles. Never worked with Aishwarya or Vidya either. He only worked with Kajol, as I said above, to have a victory over SRK and KJo.

This is why Aamir is fine working with Katrina and had her in Dhoom 3 because he knows she will not outact him. Ironically enough, her dances and songs are the only remembered part of the movie so she still eclipsed him in Dhoom 3. Aamir was too worried about Deepika so he's never cast her. He casts Kareena because she does flowerpot roles willingly and will never outact him. Rani is a strong actress but because she looks up to Aamir, it's the only time in her career where she's done small, meaningless roles. She always does meaty roles especially with the other Khans, but in Aamir movies, she's given nothing to do which she accepts because of her crush on him (and maybe former affair with him).

As for Deepika and Salman, that's quite interesting that she's never worked with him. I'm wondering if something is there that stops her from acting with him. He really wants to work with her. On KWK, he was asked which new actress he thinks is the best and he immediately said Deepika. He asked her to do Sultan but she rejected it, and then Kangana was asked but rejected it, before Anushka got it. People online say that Deepika won't work with Salman out of loyalty towards Aishwarya.