My maid wants relationship advice from MAA - Page 4

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

I dunno how to tell you but Upmaa was a teen bride. Teens are kids. She was denied her chance to higher education and growing up around her peers in the safety of university where teens have a safe space to develop a personality, self-expression and self-love. Rather she grew up in an abusive household, gaslighted for twenty-six years. Her husband babytrapped her. She was socially and economically marginalised for 26 years. She was abused for 26 years. That is half a lifetime. And even when discussing fictional characters who internalised so much abuse, educated women who can perfectly pronounce "sorry" like Lizzie Bennet have the audacity to mock her clothes and accent? And then justify it by saying that it's her self-hatred that justifies such elitism. Self-love also is not Vitamin D ki dhoop mein khade ho gaye aur self-love body ne khud produce kar liya while society around you discriminates against you.

Taking the misognoir example, Black women can be bad people, Black women, like everyone else, can have bouts of self-hatred and insecurity. Does not give anyone a right to make racist jokes, rights? Given that a Black woman developed the discourse around self-love, it is oppressive systems which induce self-hatred. Media is part of this social system which is why OscarsSoWhite was even a thing. Popular media has lampooned BIPOC and even Black hair. Condescending people about self-love while systems around them reinforce stereotypes and make their lives actively difficult is privileged af.

You cannot say prejudiced things and then castigate people for self-hatred in the same breath lol. You cannot mock a widely popular character's social markers and then wash your hands off by expecting that real people with those social markers have self-love. That is not how cultural messaging works lol.

Self-love is form of self-assertion in the face of oppression. She wasn't just oppressed by Shahs. Her parents, a patriarchal, elitist society that reduces women to their bodies and suitability for men, lack of public access, even Anuj for slùtshaming her are as much complicit in her oppression as Vanraj and his parents. And her codependency on them still has nothing to do with her accent or clothes.

Self-love is not giving others a free pass to be apathetic people. Self-love or lack thereof does not give others a free pass to be ignorant, prejudiced, classist assholes to you. Being a good person is also not a prerequisite for not being socioeconomically lampooned.

Tl;dr, don't mock anybody's social markers in any context.

ok so this discussion is a commentary on social injustice roped into the context of most annoying character on tv, anupamaa. I'm out. Good luck with your propoganda about upma.

Ek akhree sawaaal, yeh lamba bhashan aapney chatgpt sey likhwaya yaa upmaa sey? Kher, jawab nahi chahiye. This seems like one of those mysteries which are better left unsolved.

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

When Black women get discriminated in the workplace for their names, skin, hairstyles, we should absolutely not ask people to not make racist jokes but should ask Black women to feel empowered from within when that materially changes nothing in terms of the discrimination they face./s

Saying Anupamaa felt sorry for herself therefore anyone can make mock people's social markers. And those at the recieveing end should love themselves from within makes absolutely zero sense.

Self-love is an act of self-assertion against opression. It doesn't mean mock my community and I will love myself lol.

Is this the level anupama stans have fallen to? Comparing this privileged selfish vile woman with the genuine issues faced by black women? Really?

You also used the term slitshaming by Anuj. So questioning any woman on what she does is slitshaming? Really? Has these heavy terms lost all meaning and gravity?

Once again you are just claiming that a woman can never be questioned no matter what or you will be called sexist or terms like slitshaming will be used.

I will repeat for a millionth time, this is making a mockery of genuine issues of sexism and double standards women face in real life. No amount of joking or stereotypical posts here do as much damage to women and their rights as these type of posts where such issues are trivialised with such heavy terms like slitshaming thrown around willy nilly just because someone gasp dared question a woman.

Originally posted by: hoshiyaar

ok so this discussion is a commentary on social injustice roped into the context of most annoying character on tv, anupamaa. I'm out. Good luck with your propoganda about upma.

Ek akhree sawaaal, yeh lamba bhashan aapney chatgpt sey likhwaya yaa upmaa sey? Kher, jawab nahi chahiye. This seems like one of those mysteries which are better left unsolved.

Imagine comparing someone asking a question about priorities with slitshaming just because the person being questioned is a woman. It's making a mockery of genuine issues of sexism faced by women all over the world.

Basically the gist is always that a woman can never be questioned no matter what, even if she has relationships and responsibilities she neglects, cannot be questioned if they lead someone on for personal benefits, cannot be questioned if they abandon all responsibilities including a little orphan child, cannot be questioned if she spends more time with her ex than her current husband.

The ultimate utopia of gender equality where a woman can never ever be responsible or accountable and only men needs to take all responsibilities and be accountable. Men should look after the kid the women abandon, men should be ok with being led on, men should keep their mouth shut if their wives spends more time in their exes house than theirs and then run away, men should be mocked for still loving their wives after divorce, otherwise you will be accused of slitshaming and being sexist!

I cannot believe what this discussion has turned into! Good lord!

Originally posted by: Harish111

Imagine comparing someone asking a question about priorities with slitshaming just because the person being questioned is a woman. It's making a mockery of genuine issues of sexism faced by women all over the world.

Basically the gist is always that a woman can never be questioned no matter what, even if she has relationships and responsibilities she neglects, cannot be questioned if they lead someone on for personal benefits, cannot be questioned if they abandon all responsibilities including a little orphan child, cannot be questioned if she spends more time with her ex than her current husband.

The ultimate utopia of gender equality where a woman can never ever be responsible or accountable and only men needs to take all responsibilities and be accountable. Men should look after the kid the women abandon, men should be ok with being led on, men should keep their mouth shut if their wives spends more time in their exes house than theirs and then run away, men should be mocked for still loving their wives after divorce, otherwise you will be accused of slitshaming and being sexist!

just about everything is politics these days and anything can be used to justify anything, no head or tail. Propogandas and arguments just catered to meet the agenda, even if it's just an agenda as simple as doing publicity for upma. I'm surprised climate change didn't come up.

Originally posted by: SmithaRam

I cannot believe what this discussion has turned into! Good lord!

chatgpt sey international Masala daal diya gaya hai. Lol

Originally posted by: SmithaRam

I cannot believe what this discussion has turned into! Good lord!

Reminds me of an Ekta Kapoor serial -

Starts normal and ends up going crazy

I am gujarati and let me tell you the way makers have portrayed the domestic housewife through Anupama is very caricaturist and extremely insulting and stereotypical.

Yes, some Gujarati women and even men for that matter do have an accent but more than that to their core Gujaratis are people who accept change and evolve. That is the reason you can find Gujaratis settled all over the world.

They love their roots but they also have a love for exploring the world and learning. Thepla khana ya saari pehna ya ek choti banana problem nahi hai Anupama ki.

All that is perfectly fine. No one cares, but where is the acceptance of her shortcomings? When will she at least try to learn, to evolve?

College gayi financial literacy ka course karne. Professor ko apna hi kuch suna diya. Resturant me jayegi, waha apna bhashan de degi. Business kar rahi thi tab bhi, apni hi bakwas kar li.

Matlab kabi toh insaan ye dikhaye ki okay...mujhe ye karna nahi aata. I want to learn from you, I will accept what you say without poking my nose in between and tooting my own horn!

And I am sorry, tumko ye torch bearer banana hai ki don't mock toh pehle makers ko bolo Gujarati women are not like this. They are the biggest mockers who are mocking all Gujarati women by allowing this nonsensical, weird portrayal to continue airing on TV.

If knowing something or everything turns like this🤷🏻‍♀️..........Glad I know "nothing".

Originally posted by: SmithaRam

I cannot believe what this discussion has turned into! Good lord!

Never doubt the ability of an AnupaMaid to obfuscate. Anything and everything is possible with just one constant - she is a perennial victim in any situation (same script is followed in the show as well though more often than not, she's the author of her own misfortune )