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Posted: 4 years ago

Majority of the viewers are watching this show for entertainment...they clearly have no problem with Kartik and Naira cheating on Vedika till now otherwise TRP of this form of entertainment would be lowest....people don't care about morals and ethics while watching show...But a section of viewers is seemingly more concerned confused regarding marital status of Kartik, Naira and Vedika...or about the future of their favorite...as CVs have clearly shown Kartik and Vedika legally bonded in loveless, worthless and respect-less marriage...they declared Kartik and Naira's marriage null and void....but if we talk about real law...not DKP or Garima's law....which marriage is legal or which is not seems quite confusing...Isn't it?....

read a logical statement that Naira wasn't missing but she actually died...she was declared dead by police officer infront of Kartik...therefore after her fake death...Kartik and Naira's marriage is null and void...as she wasn't missing for 7 years...but she was "dead for them" for 5 years...but the law says...

A person may be legally declared dead or presumed dead...in second case apart form being missing from 7 years...second case for a person to be presumed dead is...

 In the absence of any evidence that the person is still alive â€“ or after a much shorter period but where the circumstances surrounding a person's disappearance overwhelmingly support the belief that the person has died (e.g., an airplane crash).  

There was no evidence of Naira's death or even of Naira being alive...there were only speculations...as nobody saw crocodiles in water eating up her body...police officer didn't saw any blood as if crocodile ate her up there must be blood flowing in water...officers were tired of searching for Naira...even after that they didn't find any remnant of Naira's body...or even evidence of her death...he told Kartik "we fear that "maybe" your wife's body was eaten up by crocodiles in nearby lake"..."maybe" he was about to drink water from that lake and saw blood flowing...but even if the police officer saw blood...was that Naira's blood?...did he get the blood examined?...did he get DNA matched with her relatives?...or was it mere speculation?...if he had to prove infront court that Naira Goenka died in order to obtain death certificate...how would he prove it without her dead body or remnants or blood sampled of dead?....maybe what Naira saw...her funeral without her dead body the very next morning of her death and her family mourning over her death...or her Kartik considering her dead while talking to Mihir...can be an illusion? when she returned for baby and was ready to even forgive Kartik...can't the funeral and mourning be an illusion?.. maybe Naira planted her fake body there and let Kartik and family mourn for her...as CVs remembered they could have shown Kartik searching for Naira...so after 1-2 months of post leap episodes we saw fbs where Kartik actually searched for Naira...but he searched for her after mourning over her death?...otherwise either what Naira did was an illusion or what Kartik did was an illusion...coming to point...

In most common law and civil code jurisdictions, it is usually necessary to obtain a court order directing the registrar to issue a death certificate in the absence of a physician's certification that an identified individual has died...Most countries have a set period of time (seven years in many common law jurisdictions) after which an individual is presumed dead if there is no evidence to the contrary.

The Presumption of Death Act 2013 was passed to simplify this process. The new act, allows applying to the High Court to declare a person presumed dead. This declaration is conclusive and cannot be appealed. It is recorded on a new Register of Presumed Deaths, and has the same effect as a registration of death.

 Death is taken to occur on 

a) the last day that they could have been alive (if the court is satisfied that they are dead)

What if court wouldn't be satisfied by officers assumption that crocodiles ate up Naira's body without any evidence...blood sample...DNA report which court would declared Naira dead? Maybe DKP's  unprofessional non-existent court?...

(b) the day seven years after the date they were last seen (if death is presumed by the elapse of time).

As police officer didn't prove infront of court that Katik's wife has died in blast or is killed by crocodiles or her dead body was not found...as there was no clear evidence that she died or not...so she must be presumed dead or declared dead by court...only than she would be considered "dead" not missing...Police officer himself make Kartik believe his assumption....Court didn't declare Naira dead...families didn't think of possibilities as Goenkas are not people who would waste their selfish energy in thinking about possibilities of a family member being alive whose dead body wasn't found...Singhanias have only single statement to explain every kind of situation...Akshara's dead body was not found and she is still dead...as Naira is Akshara's daughter so if her dead body is not found...she is 100% dead...like her mother...Without any evidence...without any court proceedings...without declaration by court...Naira can't be considered dead from legal aspects...she could only be considered missing...but as DKP wanted to show second marriage legal...Naira has to be dead according to all...without any legal declaration by court...that's it...but if DKP's logic is to be considered...than also Naira presumed dead.....according to law if she returns after 5 years as per section 107 and 108 of presumed death...she is still Kartik's legally wedded wife...

Kartik and Vedika's marriage is null and void from the time the presumed dead wife returned after 5 years...

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Posted: 4 years ago

It's a show and it's not based on real life so perhaps real rules don't apply. (ITV rules) Isn't there a disclaimer in the beginning of the show that it does not depict actual events or something like that?

I thought the car exploded in the jungle and it was assumed Naira's body was in it.

This show is not like CID or Law and Order that are crime based shows so I believe we are to assume that Karthik legally married Vedika somehow.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: rose2015

It's a show and it's not based on real life so perhaps real rules don't apply. (ITV rules) Isn't there a disclaimer in the beginning of the show that it does not depict actual events or something like that?

I thought the car exploded in the jungle and it was assumed Naira's body was in it.

This show is not like CID or Law and Order that are crime based shows so I believe we are to assume that Karthik legally married Vedika somehow.

If this show is not CID or Law and Order show than why should Naira be punished for faking her death?

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They are showing absolute crap in the name of entertainment. The show is number one, so this would continue for at least the next month. Also, going by Pankhuri interview from the 3000 episodes celebration, doesn't seem like she's going anywhere. 

Honestly, at this point, I don't care about the marriages or which one is legal or not. Its been more than 3 months since this separation track started and it seems like it doesn't have an end. 

Its not about Kaira being together but about the positivity which is missing from the show ever since Puru Mama's track, so around 5 months. There's so much crying, accusations, taunts, ugly fights. Is that entertainment? 

I have just commented in another post that I had expected for them to add some fun, light moments in the show by showing Kairav bonding with Kartik and everyone else in the GV, however, they just can't move past the two wives drama. The track had so much potential but it's being dragged because of the high ratings. Everything in a way has become about the forced triangle and no one wants to see that. 

Also, the dreams don't excite me anymore because I would rather see progress being made in the story than them performing in the same steps in different outfits and songs. 

I really hope Liza-Akhil's affair has been introduced to somehow bring a closure to the Kartik questioning Naira track. I don't know how but it has, otherwise, what even was the point of introducing it. 

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Fari_15

They are showing absolute crap in the name of entertainment. The show is number one, so this would continue for at least the next month. Also, going by Pankhuri interview from the 3000 episodes celebration, doesn't seem like she's going anywhere. 


What did she say?

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Posted: 4 years ago

Nothing in particular but just the way she was like we have set a goal, completing 5000 episodes, and that I hope people continue liking Vedika's character in the future as well. 

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Posted: 4 years ago

[QUOTE=CaptiveFreedom]

If this show is not CID or Law and Order show than why should Naira be punished for faking her death.

There are two things. An action can be illegal, immoral or both. In the track the distinction isn't clear.  If it is simply immoral than someone may not be legally punished but family may find other ways to get revenge. For example when Naira went to the office all the employees were staring at her because she was assumed dead. They may have been gossiping because they know Karthik is now married to Vedika. Something immoral can bring on public humiliation. For example when Naira came across both families in the hospital. I am actually surprised that they didn't show more uproar over her running away and letting them assume she was dead.

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@rose DKP tried to make viewers believe that whatever KD did for parpota and moksh was out of love and concern or Suwarna depriving Shubham of his basic rights for 19 years was huge sacrifice for which Suwarna should be called a devi...did we see disclaimer and didn't object to the content or wrong message that time?

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Fari_15

I really hope Liza-Akhil's affair has been introduced to somehow bring a closure to the Kartik questioning Naira track. I don't know how but it has, otherwise, what even was the point of introducing it. 

Looks like it has been introduced to show everyone accusing Naira and Kartik supporting her.. Everybody predicted here that it would somehow lead to Naira getting blamed but getting slapped and accusations of cheating Vedika are ridiculousđŸ¤¢

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Fari_15

They are showing absolute crap in the name of entertainment. The show is number one, so this would continue for at least the next month. Also, going by Pankhuri interview from the 3000 episodes celebration, doesn't seem like she's going anywhere. 

Honestly, at this point, I don't care about the marriages or which one is legal or not. Its been more than 3 months since this separation track started and it seems like it doesn't have an end. 

Its not about Kaira being together but about the positivity which is missing from the show ever since Puru Mama's track, so around 5 months. There's so much crying, accusations, taunts, ugly fights. Is that entertainment? 

I have just commented in another post that I had expected for them to add some fun, light moments in the show by showing Kairav bonding with Kartik and everyone else in the GV, however, they just can't move past the two wives drama. The track had so much potential but it's being dragged because of the high ratings. Everything in a way has become about the forced triangle and no one wants to see that. 

Also, the dreams don't excite me anymore because I would rather see progress being made in the story than them performing in the same steps in different outfits and songs. 

I really hope Liza-Akhil's affair has been introduced to somehow bring a closure to the Kartik questioning Naira track. I don't know how but it has, otherwise, what even was the point of introducing it. 

DKP...the PH that only understands the language of TRP...they already lost their repetitive 4+ and now TRP fall to 3+...till the time viewers are watching this crap...they will keep stretching it...for infinite time period...but as every rise has fall...this rise will also have a fall...when viewers will find more interesting content in any other show during same time slot...