India is becoming a "land of Gang Rapist":Mallika Sherawat - Page 15

Originally posted by: Allthatcritique

Your analogy completely fails. India has a system of law and order,it takes its citizens money,it has administrative units,it has voters,its a democracy, ministers of states,prime minister. Does Islam have any of these things. Its a religion,just like Hinduism. Religious fanaticism is different cause you can interpret your religion according to you. You can choose the good interpretation and bad acc to you. Nobody can stop you. There is no system to stop you. But a country has a system in place. Its a legal system. It has to answer to its citizens. You can't interpret your legal rights as you wish. And if you do, the police will put you behind bars. There is a reason most empires in history have separated the state from the religion. They are not comparable. The laws of the country are not based on someone's interpretation and therein lies the difference.[/DIV]

India needs humiliation on an international level because that's the only way this government works. And social media is a great tool. What are you talking about. Unrest in public is ne eded.The Asifa and Unnao's cases sped up cause of social media. The world got to know because of social media and the ordinance was approved so quickly because the world got to know. These cases were months older but things started happening because of social media.

My analogy was not comparing nationality with religion.

It is comparing beliefs of patroitism and religion.
People are as much loyal to religion as they are to nationality.
What I am trying to say is blaming whole of India constantly will
deviate the issue from tackling of sexual crime to nationalism issue.

People don't take shit about things they love, especially when the accusations are disparaging. And this social media outcry is doing nothing but spreading propoganda both Bhakti and anti-Bhakti.

I agree Government of India deserves all the blame and protests from the public for its failure to give safety the people of the nation especially the women and children against sexual crime, and they need to take responsibility. But while protesting people also need to understand that keeping religion and the country out of it is a very important thing.

Many people fail to understand the difference between state and government. Hence you see many people pouncing on, when people criticise India. Obviously criticism is against GOI, and not the country, but not everyone is smart to differentiate, so people hould be clear and specific about it. Yes current party Bhakts will still retaliate but people will still get a grip that criticism is against GOI, and not the country itself.

Originally posted by: -Betty-

Then why is it wrong to ban people from a country that sponsors terrorism and harbors terrorists

Isnt it funny that we should not shame pakistanis because of the actions of thier government
but our nation should be shame every indian because of incompetency of present GOI.

Ofcourse we we should not blame every Pakistanis, but where is this
sensibility gone when it comes to india? People who protested against witch hunting
are now encouring it now. Weird.

Anyways off to bed.
I just pointed my views, they are not meant to be facts, they are opinions, just everyone in the thread.

Originally posted by: U_R_MY_BITCH

My analogy was not comparing nationality with religion.

It is comparing beliefs of patroitism and religion.
People are as much loyal to religion as they are to nationality.
What I am trying to say is blaming whole of India constantly will
deviate the issue from tackling of sexual crime to nationalism issue.

People don't take shit about things they love, especially when the accusations are disparaging. And this social media outcry is doing nothing but spreading propoganda both Bhakti and anti-Bhakti.

I agree Government of India deserves all the blame and protests from the public for its failure to give safety the people of the nation especially the women and children against sexual crime, and they need to take responsibility. But while protesting people also need to understand that keeping religion and the country out of it is a very important thing.

Many people fail to understand the difference between state and government. Hence you see many people pouncing on, when people criticise India. Obviously criticism is against GOI, and not the country, but not everyone is smart to differentiate, so people hould be clear and specific about it. Yes current party Bhakts will still retaliate but people will still get a grip that criticism is against GOI, and not the country itself.

So like I said in my other post for some who're very vocal here and outside world, it's more about the fact that the party they dislike is ruling, that's troubling them more than anything else

For some reason if tomorrow the other party is throned these kinds of talks and threads will decrease even if incidents increased

And Indians ( actually Hindustanis) should atone for the sin of choosing the party those people despise

until they rectify it, they should be shamed... It should be a lesson to future generations only to elect that one particular party

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Like I said in another post,acha hota hai to sabka but bura Hota hai toh sabko apni pari hai. Indians at ISRO do something great,posts like this is the real India come up but indians commit child/women rapes and posts are like India is not like this crop up. Its time to take the good with the bad. Patriotism ek taraf,reality ek taraf.

You are saying as if us selecting(I didn't voted for BJP btw) current GOI is the very reason why rapes/delay in justice are happening in India. As if we selected any other government situation would have changed or under previous government rapes never happened.

See I agree society as a whole is f**ked up, and the reason why rapes happen is not a recency issue. It is a centuries of oppression and domimation men had to women, which has disrupted out society till now. And this is not going to change unless we men change as a whole.
But here it is being made like, it is because we Indians made Modi Govt rule India hence we all should be shamed for their incompetency regarding crimes. When the reason why people voted for BJP was because of decade long corruption done by UPA Govt. So people opted for a change, now obviously jab saab neta chorr hote hai toh aam janta kiya kaare? Humne toh badlav ke liye hi toh vote kia tha.




As I said earlier don't criticise everyone for the crimes of few people, or else it will always deviate the real issue.

Anyways lets agree to disagree, as our thinking is different, and we will not be able to be jn the sams page especially regarding this topic.

But Kalpana Chawla was born, brought up, did her Bachelors and lived in India until she was 20 yr old, she spent the rest of her 20 yrs in US

This is a wrong statement. Yes there have been news but land of rapist is absolutely wrong and unfair to vast majority of people. I wont tolerate such comment for my own country also.

Originally posted by: -Betty-

So like I said in my other post for some who're very vocal here and outside world, it's more about the fact that the party they dislike is ruling, that's troubling them more than anything else

For some reason if tomorrow the other party is throned these kinds of talks and threads will decrease even if incidents increased

And Indians ( actually Hindustanis) should atone for the sin of choosing the party those people despise

until they rectify it, they should be shamed... It should be a lesson to future generations only to elect that one particular party