Bhabo ke defense main...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yesterday was a historical day in the life of DABH. I do not think it has ever been the case that simultaneously so many threads were started for Bhabo bashing and choicest of adjectives were hurled on her for her having rejected Suraj's request. The viewers were heart broken seeing the plight of our chora aur uski Beendani. I just could not take it and did post my objections in some threads , but they got buried under the debris of abuses.So I thought why not, I express the same thing in an independent thread and give a consolidated view from the other side of the spectrum.
1.Without even once considering why Bhabo did what she did and condemning her makes us as guilty as Bhabo. If Bhabo did not give weight to Suraj's requests and dismissed it, are we not also doing the same thing by not giving any weight to Bhabo's POV and rejecting her outright. If she is guilty we are also in the same boat. The definition of right and wrong is very subjective and there is a thin line dividing it.

2.Bhabo was totally taken aback when she heard Suraj's pleas. When you are shocked you either retreat into a shell and become quiet or pour your heart out crying or shout at the person who gave you that shock. Bhabo did the last as she is anyway known to be aggressive. Accepting such a revolutionary proposal in a small town like Pushkar is no easy job. Did not Sandhya also take a lot of time to recover from the shock, when she found her husband to be a halwai.Did you find her going and hugging and kissing her husband when she found out ? She just followed a different way of expressing it by turning quiet. Did we not sympathise with her than ? How than can you expect Bhabo to hug Suraj and smilingly accept his proposal Why do we not give the same consideration to Bhabo ?

3. Since all of you have been repetitive in Bhabo bashing, I will also do the same.You have to consider her background.She lives in a small town, is uneducated and is fiercely protective of her joint family setup. Here is a Beendani who comes along and shatters all her ideas of an Adarsh Bahu. She never once wanted such a Beendani and was cheated into marrying her son to one.Who is the culprit here ? Ankur. Some how with great difficulty seeing the goodness of Sandhya she reconciles. Now overnight you want her to overlook all the values she has been brought up with and accept her Beendani's IPS dream. Get real..How can that happen?

4 Many parents in India who are qualified professionals compel their children to take up Science group in 11th grade so that their dream of their children becoming engineers and doctors is fulfilled. When there, you do not see parents leaving the choice to their children and we justify it saying it is for the good of the child ,here we do not want Bhabo to exercise the same option. WHY? If an urban middle class parent can control their child's dream why not Bhabo ?

5.IPS is not Sandhya's dream it is what her parents dreamt for her and she wants to fulfill it. Fine., but it clashes with Bhabo's dream for her son of having a loving housewife as Beendani and giving her lots of grand children. Do you think any mother in law from that background will concede and give up her dreams to humour her Beendani. Did Sandhya's parents give her the choice to dream or indoctrinated her to follow their dreams. I am not too sure.

6.IPS is a very difficult profession which involves frequent transfers, danger to life, separation from family over long durations etc etc.Even very educated families will find it extremely difficult to accept their daughter in laws going into civil services.Yeh to semi rural background ki hain.. Even if Ankur's wife had similar dreams he would think twice, but he wants Suraj to accept and fight for Sandhya. How hypocritical is that? Would not Bhabo think that Ankur who is encouraging her son himself has a housewife as Beendani and has already started a family .How than can he encourage her son to go the opposite way?

7.I know what you will say? Bhabo does not understand what is IPS? She does understand that Sandhya has to wear the uniform which is without a ghoonghat. If some colleges in India can issue rules that girls should not wear jeans to college but only salwar kameez to avoid being eveteased or raped why can't an uneducated Bhabo find it difficult to accept the police uniform.
Do not mistake me.I am an extremely progressive person and am all for women pursuing their dreams but when they want to do it remaining in the traditional setup than they will have to face resistance from all quarters.Unless they are prepared for that and become thick skinned their dreams cannot see the light of the day. Here Sandhya had a choice.She could have walked out of the marriage and Ankur was willing to support her.She did not even realise she loved Suraj at that stage. If she had done that she would be already be preparing for IPS. It was her choice.She stuck on and later fell in love with her husband and now with Suraj prodding her she wants to go all out after her dreams , naturally in your path the walls of tradition will block you and when you try to break it you will get hurt.Only if you are willing to bear that hurt, can you hope to move ahead. With Suraj by her side she will succeed and with time Bhabo will come around and give her, her blessings.All I am saying here is give Bhabo the time she will understand. She is not bad at heart. Change cannot come overnight. Evolution of society takes a long time.Once again I salute the CVs for making us think and debate the larger questions in life.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I'm the first one to join you in defense of Bhabho.👍🏼.

IPS Sandhya Rathi = Sooraj + Bhabho. (Equally support n strength of two persons Sandhya required in order to fulfill her journey of IPS..)

Bhabho will provide motherly love n strengthen her from the roots.

Sooraj will provide her unconditional support as a Mitra/Friend.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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ma ji another thinking post of u...

i am angry on bhabo wt she doing is not fair...but knw that she needs some times to understand it and move her mind set from narrow to broad...then only she will accept to fullfill sandy's dream...

and u forgot onething.first sandy only decided to become police officer not by his father's wishes...later on;y her parents supported her dreams and considered as their own dream for her daughter...

see u in next thinking and valuabe post of u ma ji...

thank u...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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UMDU I appreciate your thought provoking post once again.

I have to agree with Udnis that Sandhya's parents recognised the talent in Sandhya earlier on and gave encouragement and nurtured that talent in her.
A 10-11 yr old girl declared one day that she wanted to become a Police officer of her own and was not forced to think like that...

But I do agree that from Bhabho's point of view and from where she comes from her reaction is very realistic and understandable.
Sooraj is mature enough to understand her and he even said it in the epi today to Ankur that this sort of idea is new and revolutionary to his family and esp to Bhabho and she will take some time to get used to or even accept such an idea.

What I really liked in today's epi was the way Bhabho sent Meena away ... she knew what Meena was trying to do and was in no mood to listen to her nonsense trying to influence Bhabho.

This proves that Bhabho is not so dumb and knows every person in the house quite well and she really is a good person at heart. In her talk to Sandhya she talked about how Sandhya worked at fitting into the ways of her family and this proves that she will not do anything to disturb the peace in the house.
Even though she was using EB (emotional blackmail) what she said was true about Sandhya.

So yes coming back to your post I have to agree that Bhabho has her own valid reasons for objecting at least for now.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh no! Umdu Chachi n JunaDi already kitnaa badaa bulldozer chalaa diya to defense Bhabho. Still there are many will join soon!😆.

Chalo Thik hi hain. I'm taking backseat. Keep spy on it n look for taang-pulling opportunity.😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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UMDU, Lovely post👏. I would say hats off to the writers for not changing Bhaboo in an episode's time. They have stuck with her character and I'm sure by the end of the serial she will change. If she had accepted Suraj's proposal, she wouldn't be the Bhabho we all know.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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UMDU Ji...a very nice post indeed.

It is true that in our youth and inexperience, we are very idealistic and think we can change the world in one day and thus it becomes very easy to point fingers at someone like Bhabo. And though on the surface...it may seem like it would be very hard to defend Bhabo and her actions...you have done a great job...

Whose side am I on in this issue?

Well...let me first say that everyone is right from their own stand point. And I love how the CVs are carefully balancing everything and taking this track forward.

Now here are my 2 cents...

Yes Bhabo is dominating. She runs her house with an iron fist and a whip like tongue. She treats her husband poorly, while expecting her beendhnis to put their beendhs (her sons) on a pedestal. Dignity and upholding traditions mean everything to her, and are not to be compromised at any cost. In short...it's always her way or the highway.
Yes one can argue that Bhabo is kind hearted. She is.
Yes one can argue that Bhabo is fair. She is.
Yes one can argue that Bhabo is honest. She is.
Yes one can argue that Bhabo is a good judge of character. She is.
Yes one can argue that she's too smart to fall prey to the add oil to the fire antics. She is.
Yes one can argue that just as Sandhya's parents saw a dream...Bhabo also saw a dream of the perfect Beendhni for her son. And she has just as much right of seeing her dreams for her son being fulfilled as Sandhya's parents.
Yes one can argue that she should be understood, because she is an elder, is set in her ways and comes from an uneducated background. Yes she should.
But...need all of her tantrums be excused and accepted...No.
Change needs to come to Hanumaan Gali...and it has to begin with Bhabo.
She has to realize that despite the fact that Sandhya is different from everything she imagined in a bahu, she has lived up to being a true partner to Suraj and a good DIL to herself...much more so than Meena, or even her own children.

Lets compare the 2 bahus...:

An uneducated Meena who knows how to cook (as Bhabo wanted), is lazy, greedy, hid the fact that she was taking birth control pills from her own husband, is a consummate liar, committed fraud, and even filed an FIR against Bhabo, just to get back into the house.

An educated Sandhya who doesn't know how to cook (as Bhabo did not want), is active, is ever ready to learn how to do housework if someone guides her. Saved Bhabo's life from the bull, discovered Meena's fraud, discovered who was behind the FIR, saved Maasa's grand-daughter's wedding, saved Pushkar from a terrorsit attack, showed her husband to dream and actually win the WTC competition, has taught many a pandit a lesson against gender bias, and has willingly and respectfully accepted every whim of Bhabo's.

Now I think Bhabo should take her blinders off and see for herself...that the Bahu she thinks is not her ideal...has in actuality been the perfect Beendhni. That being different can be quite refreshing. That traditions although important...can become suffocating and stagnant, especially if they have overtime been misconstrued.

In the end, as we see very often happening in real life, I'm sure we'll see Sandhya compromising her dreams for the sake of keeping the peace in the house. Bhabo knew she could trust her DIL to do so...that's why she came and spoke to her in private.

But I personally believe that Bhabo should and will eventually realize that although she may have hoped for certain things for Suraj...fate has dealt him a very special set of cards. And in the long run, what she may have wished for may not be what her son wants.

As a result, she needs to let her adult, married son, take hold of the reins of his life and lead it along with his wife the way he sees fit.

There was a point very early on in his marriage when Suraj recognized the vast difference between his mother and wife. His father had told him that you can't fry samosas and jalebis in the same oil. And Suraj replied that what if you do? The samosas may just wind up absorbing some of the sweetness of the jalebis, and the jalebis may wind up absorbing a little of the taste of the samosas. Ssomething new may come of it...a compromise...a synchrony...a new harmony.
The ball is entirely in Suraj's court now (unfairly placed there by circumstances initiated by that lout Ankur).
Go Chora go! Truth be told...I'm on your side. And I have complete faith in you...
Edited by ummesulaiman - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Umdu, You always write very well thought out posts. But here I feel I have to disagree. I can understand how the thought of having a IPS beendni is hard to digest for a person from Bhabo's background. But the crudeness of her reaction was unwarranted. Here they were, they had just observed the solemn occassion of shraadh, a day of respecting departed kin and she behaves in a disrespectful manner that does not befit her age. Her wonderful son, her only worthy offspring was humbly pouring out his desire to help his wife achieve her dream, innocently trusting in her motherly love. She was extremely rude and hurtful. She pretty much bullied him, ridiculed and accused him of loving his wife more than his mother.
If we are talking about Sandhya's initial behavior- Sandhya was cheated badly by a brother she adored. It was a betrayal of trust far more heart breaking than what Bhabo had to experience.Plus she had just lost her parents and was married into a family where verbal abuse ran rampant. She even saw Meena being beaten by Vikram. She had every reason to believe that DILs were objects and slaves inside Rathi household.
So Bhabo got a brave, noble, educated,intelligent, loving, honest, caring, respectful and beautiful bride for her halwai son. Yes, she desired only crystal and she got a diamond. Do I feel sorry for her for that? No! How much torture did she subject Sandhya to in the name of her so called beliefs, the 15 day pareeksha, the vile accusations I can go on and on. We know Sandhya still needs to learn how to cook. But she was deliberately not given a chance to learn. She is fully capable of becoming an excellent cook.
Yes, Bahabo has since had a change of heart towards Sandhya. But Sandhya pretty much had to give agni pareeksha. Just because every other MIL may be doing this sort of thing, does not make it right.
Yes. There is a lot of bad parenting going on. A lot of coercing going on in the name of good intentions. But that is wrong. Very wrong in my opinion. Even now, after realizing that Sandhya is fully capable of becoming IPS, she is trying to manipulate her into giving up that dream, so that she can still look good in her son's eyes and yet get her way.
I have seen a lot of MILs, interfering in the lives of their adult children, stealing the happiness of youth from their DILs by their possessiveness and regressive behavior. I cannot endorse that for any reason.
Double standards, one for herself and one for her DILs, Bhabo has that too. I accept that she has gone thru hardships. But who was there for her in those times? She lives a comfortable life now. Who made it possible for her? Is this how to treat that son? OK. Her heart does not beat for her DIL, but what about Suraj? Do his desires not count?
Bhabo is not all bad. She is hard working and does have a conscience which surfaces sometimes. But her negatives make her a hard person to live with. She should appreciate the true love and respect SurYa have for her and not take advantage of that.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deebz

So Bhabo got a brave, noble, educated,intelligent, loving, honest, caring, respectful and beautiful bride for her halwai son. Yes, she desired only crystal and she got a diamond.

Deebz...I love this line of yours @bold 👍🏼
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Fathimaji Thank you so much for taking time and giving detailed inputs on the subject. I am not for a second excusing Bhabo for her tantrums and going over board about things. I also know that hearts of hearts Bhabo knows Sandhya is a gem and Meena is in no way comparable to her.She may not admit it openly due to her ego but her reprimand of Meena in yesterday's episode is a proof enough. The purpose of my post is to see the other side of the coin. We are not debating right or wrong here what we are looking at is the ideal mother in law and the real mother in laws in a rural setting. We all want Bhabo to be understanding.We want her to give in to her son's wish but in reality life does not work like that. My thread only tried to show the real India which exists in small towns and villages. The line between idealism and reality is extremely frustrating but true.

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