Arnav such a j*** continuation thread

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I made a thread "Arnav such a jerk" yesterday night which was closed by giving no appropriate reason. Though I had PM'ed the Mod's twice but still awaiting a reply hence the new thread is opened to continue the discussion.

The criticism was carried out very constructively and I don't Know why stating some facts is considered as bashing

Let me add some important points highlighted from the discussion

Original Thread- http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3145325

Originally posted by Didi ki saut

why is he acting like a jerk???
I liked the episode but

Why he shouted infront of family??
Why he wanted to bed her??
Why did he force her to change??
Why he never felt that Khushi was uncomfortable??
Why he never listens to her??
Why he forced her to take the pheras??

These all may be sidelined but it is the dignity of Khushi which is at stake...
Arnav was even ok with a live in, How many will buy the argument that "I love you" but will not give a proper wedding.



Originally posted by CDlove

I am not at all against the fact that ASR wants to fulfil his physical urges. I'd be worried if he doesn't want to, after being with this lovely woman for 6 months. But my peeve is with the fact that everything he did tonight was for HIM and not considered for HER.

Let me elaborate. He asks her to wear the cloths so that HE can see her in them, not because she feels nice to wear them. She continued to refuse to have a Suhaag Raat but he insisted on it because HE wanted it. She stopped him from going much further because she believed this is not how this step should be taken but HE was angry because she denied HIM. That was the main cause for his anger; HE was stopped from having sex with her. Simple as that.

Now it's natural for him to get angry (especially if he was hard on but I'll stop from going further for PG13 ratings). Yet when he dragged her to the terrace was that anger justifiable? Wasn't it just so he can quickly get the whole going round the fire business done with so that she would relent to him in the bed? It's a quick easy solution, not delve too deeper into what she wants because who cares what she wants as long as he has her by the end of the night right? Did he try to understand where she's coming from? No because at that moment her opinions or decisions didn't matter to him and he was driven singularly to get the woman pacified and come to bed with him.

This fact that he didn't consider her feelings during the whole make believe pheres is what's putting me off. It was HIM, for HIM and about HIM all the way. Right from the start of his proposal of having the SG until the time he forcibly lifted her and took her around the fire, it was all about him. Nope, he didn't take her around the fire for her sanctity. He did it for him so that he can get what he wanted out of her.

As I said in another post it's not wrong to have manly urges but if he cannot control his desires until she consents whole heartedly, he's not a gentleman, hell not even a civilised human. Coupled with the fact that he was extremely selfish and didn't give a dime regarding what Khushi wanted, made me gag at the whole scene.


Originally posted by RickyBahl

Being a sizzling episode the essence got lost due to intentions of arnav to sleep with her.


I didnt expect Cv's will potray him crazy for Sex
We never wanted such a consumation plot ever wher the girl is Uncomfortable.

Why the hell was Khushi smiling. She knows he loves him,
If She wanted to smile then she shud have not stopped him from having SR.

what is this cv, one time she angry , next moment smiling.

where are we heading despite romantic moments.

why we loved despite hating the track bcoz.

we ourselves wanted to see ARHI consumation happen,
but not in this circumstance

iam feeling very heavy inside my heart as if something very abnormal is happening.
I have never been such associated with serial so crazily. Dont know why feeling so upset

might b becoz i wanted thids scene to be reserved for future scene. But it hads been put out of
context in a janmashtami night


Originally posted by Kbtr
Absolutely! I agree with you.
This epi just confirmed that all he wants is to get laid. To hell with what she wants and feels. HIS feelings are more important. He's not only a jerk, he's actually losing his touch as ASR. Remember how gentle ASR was at the poolside removing the lights. Or the gentle ASR who removed the grain of sand from her eye. I want that ASR back, ruthless, yet gentle. Determined, yet respectful. Strong, yet caring. This guy today was a monster! If he claims to love her and not be able to live without her, why doesn't he show it?
He could have done all that he did today in a gentler manner - IF he loved her!
And anyone who says this is the character of ASR, I say - what crap!
Go back and watch the previous epis. This is not the ASR of yesteryear. And for those of you who say people change, I say, yes, he has changed, changed for the worse!

Originally posted by ..Kiran..

Goshh people stop giving the "love" excuse. Even if he hangs her to death u'll justify him by saying he LOVES HER!
The fact is he cares about his feelings ONLY! He wants her so he ran to get pheres cuz she wouldn't let him do it without pheres!

What about her feelings? Why not get her a proper wedding and then do whatever hew wants to!

He can throw her out when he wants and he can pick her up when he wants? Is that his "love"?


(Please forgive me for using your posts if hope no one is offended by this)

And many many views were posted...

So the post may not have had many likes but it sure generated a lot of debate. In my opinion Arnav should have had acted with care as he has put Khushi's dignity under the radar.

Discussion is welcome...




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Posted: 13 years ago
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i really wanted to reply u thr but whn i returned it was closed ..and frankly i loved the debat ...i hope u remeber me ..the last point whr we stopped was ...u said me foce can doo anything example hitler ..and told me not to mu u tht u r comparing hitler and asr :: ,,,,,soo my answer he did force her but y cudnt she reject him..remeberr on her bday he gave her a sari whch she rejected ...today he did the same thing he gave her lehenga she cud have rejected but she didnt becz she also somewhr in her innermind want to be his forever ...for tht moment she forgot nani's words ..u cant say only arnav was desperate to have "it"...she was also ...again i am poitning out the expression she beared was nervousness not helplessness ,,,,,,
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Originally posted by: fan145

i really wanted to reply u thr but whn i returned it was closed ..and frankly i loved the debat ...i hope u remeber me ..the last point whr we stopped was ...u said me foce can doo anything example hitler ..and told me not to mu u tht u r comparing hitler and asr :: ,,,,,soo my answer he did force her but y cudnt she reject him..remeberr on her bday he gave her a sari whch she rejected ...today he did the same thing he gave her lehenga she cud have rejected but she didnt becz she also somewhr in her innermind want to be his forever ...for tht moment she forgot nani's words ..u cant say only arnav was desperate to have "it"...she was also ...again i am poitning out the expression she beared was nervousness not helplessness ,,,,,,


I dont know why the thread was closed it was on fire, quite literally.


Edited by Didikisaut - 13 years ago
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Hi DKS,
Just wanted to say that both myself and Hiru have Pmed the "MOD" as well and we like you are awaiting response. I must say that to close a thread with no reason is not correct, not to worry we are with you. Lets hope they respond and if they dont well we know how to pm again😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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This is a good post and The discussion is logical. This SHOULD NOT have/be closed.
Well done.


And YES...Arnav is WRONG. Any person who has simple common sense will know that what ASR did yesterday was WRONG. Being a husband or being a lover...neither of this role gives a man any right to force his female partner for physical act if she is NOT ready for it.

ASR is a favorite character of mine. I will be sad if this character is portrayed like that without showing any appropriate reason.
Edited by BlueM - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: fan145

i really wanted to reply u thr but whn i returned it was closed ..and frankly i loved the debat ...i hope u remeber me ..the last point whr we stopped was ...u said me foce can doo anything example hitler ..and told me not to mu u tht u r comparing hitler and asr :: ,,,,,soo my answer he did force her but y cudnt she reject him..remeberr on her bday he gave her a sari whch she rejected ...today he did the same thing he gave her lehenga she cud have rejected but she didnt becz she also somewhr in her innermind want to be his forever ...for tht moment she forgot nani's words ..u cant say only arnav was desperate to have "it"...she was also ...again i am poitning out the expression she beared was nervousness not helplessness ,,,,,,


For me she was very very nervous as she loves him but her helplessness arises from the fact that she cannot go through it
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Originally posted by: Didikisaut


I dont know why the thread was closed it was on fire, quite literally.


maybe the discussion went out of control
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Originally posted by: evenjleena28

Hi DKS,

Just wanted to say that both myself and Hiru have Pmed the "MOD" as well and we like you are awaiting response. I must say that to close a thread with no reason is not correct, not to worry we are with you. Lets hope they respond and if they dont well we know how to pm again😃


I was quite annoyed with the reasoning provided. No one ever stepped out of the line
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Originally posted by: BlueM

This is a good post and The discussion is logical. This SHOULD NOT have/be closed.

Well done.


I am still awaiting a reply for the morning thread.
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Originally posted by: Didikisaut


I was quite annoyed with the reasoning provided. No one ever stepped out of the line

I want to say something more but i shall pm you and you will know what we are talking about

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