Everything depends on Viren

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Posted: 15 years ago
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If Siddharth finds out about Viren, who will believe him? Nivedita herself might not believe him, even if Siddharth brings in the greatest proof. Its not Nivedita's fault, but she cannot in her wildest dreams think Viren can be the stalker. Similarly, when Viren was framing Sid, Sid could never make out that Viren, his younger brother and Nivedita's husband, can frame him and traumatise his own beloved wife Nivedita, and can give DS wrong medicines. Its beyond Nivedita's belief, that Viren can be the stalker.
Its said "diamonds cut diamonds". If someone wants to give Viren a "sermon", he will not understand, he needs to be made understood in the language he understands now.Viren used Nivedita against Sid, because Nivedita was his childhood friend and also Nivedita is an honest girl. If Nivedita herself points fingers at Sid, even a person like DS will pause and think, as DS knows Nivedita will never speak lies. (I am not talking about YD, because I feel people like her do not have any intuition or proper judgement who is honest or who is fake).Similarly, if Nivedita finds out about Viren and says Sid is innocentc (without taking real stalker's name), that makes better sense, DS will believe Nivedita's words, the reason being same, that she, as a person will not speak lies.
When she says Sid is innocent, she will not name Viren in public or accuse him, in front of everyone. Because the story has to proceed to Nivi working to build her relationship with Viren, and hence she needs to know what is making Viren do all these? She will try to lessen Viren's pain, and after that, its completely upto Viren, whether to realise or not. A relationship can survive on two pillars. Viren needs to realise his path was not right, and at the same time, start working towards the betterment of his marriage from his side. Its only Viren, who can realise and rectify his actions. Nivedita can just help him, but he has to realise and implement. A teacher can only teach, but the student has to go and write the exam and come out successful. Both teacher and student are important for an exam, but duties of both are different, both have to do their part jointly to succeed in an exam.
I had read many comments yesterday, about the institution of marriage, about marital vows. I feel, its all upto the humans to nurture a relationship. If a person is not compassionate, no marriage vows can make the person more responsible. Without vows also, a person will be dutiful. If Viren-Nivi's marriage works, it will be only because of Nivedita's patience, when she will give Viren the chance and time to realise and rectify.This track has no other immediate way, than to show Viren realising his mistake, that the path he has taken is not right.
Talking about "institution of marriage", its all depends on humans, as per their thoughts and the circumstance they face in life. I feel in this world, the most passionate relationship is of "mother-children". But we do not take any vows for abiding that relationship. Though rare, but its true, parents make mistakes. It is upto the children, whether to forgive them or not. Just we are thinking that Nivedita will forgive Viren and work towards her marriage, because one should not pay disrespect to the marriage, its also true, that we need to be impartial to every one, whether our parents, our friends, our partners and think in a similar way of "forgetting and forgiving". Some relationships do not start with "chanting of mantras", but those are also relationships, where people need to apply the same principles.. Impartiality and unbiasedness should prevail whenever we decide anything, whether about our parents, children, love, friends, anyone. ( I just like to mention I am not talking about Sid-Nivi relationship in any ways, but I was keeping more in mind, NTdadi's words to Pratap. Sometimes, instead of children, parents make mistakes, we need to apply the same principle as "forget and forgive").
Nivedita will work towards Viren's betterment, whether she was married or not to Viren. She would have even worked towards betterment of her relationship with Sid if circumstance was such. But the entire circumstance that time was very messy, with Keshav sick, Divya crazy for Sid, HL's manipulations, CC's schemes, JW's plots, DS's stroke and then Viren enters with his own ideas, not known to anyone. She really had no control on anything that time, but to flow with time. But today, she has control, she is not as badly tied up as she was before, she just has to concentrate on Viren now. She will definitely do that, as she is sketched to be a compassionate person.
Nivedita and Sid's relationship is not possible at this moment, unless in reply to Nivedita's care and love, Viren does not realise and keeps on walking the wrong way. Everything depends on Viren now, whether he will be able to see the love and affection that his family as well as Nivedita has for him and his conscience starts to play OR he wants to contibue in his revenge mode.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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excellent man!!!!!!!!!! i liked it. it was short and sweet!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: COOLGIRLLAVANYA

excellent man!!!!!!!!!! i liked it. it was short and sweet!!!!!!!!!!

I think giving Viren a "sermon" about what to do and what not to do, will not help him. Most possibly, creatives are on their way to keep the marriage of Nivi-Viren intact.
There are two ways that can be followed
1. Seeing Nivedita's blind trust and interacting with his family more and more, he realises that all these people are not crminals. Neither DS is heartless for him nor Sid is as big a "kamina" as he thinks.😆 Sid's mistake can be forgiven also, if Viren wants to resolve the difference.
2. Nivedita finding out that what Sid is also finding out and applies the same game on Viren, though with a noble intention. She does not show Viren that she has caught him, and supports him and makes way for him to revery his path.
As I said, everything depends on Viren. Whether he really wants to look beyond his revenge mode!
also, lets see what the creatives have thought!
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I really like the simpleness and clarity of your analysis and I also think it's the most logical direction for the story to progress by the looks of things. I just hope the CT's have as clear an idea as you do!! 😉
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Originally posted by: anjaani07

I really like the simpleness and clarity of your analysis and I also think it's the most logical direction for the story to progress by the looks of things. I just hope the CT's have as clear an idea as you do!! 😉

I think I am the best person to read the creatives "schemes" 😆..just kidding.
I am 99% sure that the story is proceeding towards Nivi-viren, except a small doubt, as regards to how Viren will react to the whole situation. Major stuff that will change him is not just his realisation about Nivi's love, because he already knows Nivi loves and trust him, as he himself led Nivi by all his romance and gesture, to this stage. He has to completely transform himself not just for his married partner, but his outlook for the whole family.
We have to wait and see, what effect Nivedita's blind trust and love, have on Viren after some days! Most probably, his conscience will start to prick and he will start looking at the whole incidents from his childhood, in a different way. To win Nivedita's trust and make Nivedita against Sid, was his junoon. And he has achieved that. Now that it has already happened, what he wants next? Where will his junoon end?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yep I agree that he will not change only by realisation of Nivi's love, as like you say, he already knows she loves and trusts him now. I think something big needs to happen that maybe makes him question his memory of whatever happened in the past which then will make him start to doubt what he is doing now. And after that, Nivi's blind trust in him may make him feel guilty? I don't know, i'm confusing myself here!! 😆
I think it'll be slightly easier to understand once we know WHY he is behaving this way as well, they haven't shown us enough to really form any proper views on it I don't think.
I also get the feeling that once Nivi realises its Viren who's doing eveything, after her initial shock and anger she will forgive him and try to help him and continue to support him and THAT will be his penance in the form of guilt and remorse for what he's done!! I think that the future of the story is going in the Nivi-Viren direction as it makes most sense.
On a side note, I think Kinshuk's acting has come so far!! I was watching an old epi of bidaai and he was good but he's at another level in CCBM, great character choice! I don't think I would even be discussing Viren's actions and intentions so much if Kinshuk wasn't so good at playing the role
Hmm, I think I jumped from one point to another too fast to make much sense and rambled on and on 😳 I think that you probably are the best at figuring out what the writers are thinking and generally your posts on this and other threads are also quite insightful 👍🏼
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Omshanti, sorry don't know your name. I love reading your posts, they are amazing. u make Nivi & Viren come to life. thanks for that.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: namita_murti

Omshanti, sorry don't know your name. I love reading your posts, they are amazing. u make Nivi & Viren come to life. thanks for that.

I always follow one motif in life. I follow the same while analysing Sid, Viren or Nivi, anyone.
I believe that people should not follow someone blindly and do not try to show something or someone good, by demeaning another one.
if u ask me frankly, from my own morality point of view, this show should end with Nivedita and Siddharth only. This is my opinion, just as many others feel that they should not be together. If we follow words of wisdom strictly and evaluate evrything with an unbiased mind, thats the only end this show should have.
But it wont happen here, the major reason is because both are married and thus the end is very evitable. That Viren will change, and Nivi has to be a guide. Divya also will be becoming mature and Sid-Divya will come together. But Viren has to change by awakening of his conscience and I am sure creatives will walk this way only with Nivi-Viren and Sid-Divya.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I myself watching this show for Kinshuk. Ever since I knew that Kinshuk is stepping into the show, I started watching this show. I do not know whether u read my previous write ups about Kinshuk. In one I had written, thatif Kinshuk can do something different from what he did in Bidaai, he will label himself as a versatile actor. He will just not be one face in the crowd. He already took a bold decision by not playing the father of a seven year old in Bidaai, when most of his comtempoaraies did that, including Angad and Harshad. I felt that time he was trying to do something different. And here it is, he is indeed doing something different.
In any field, one becomes unique or "out of the crowd",. when one does something not very conventional. When SRK came to films, he had lot of competitors, including Amir, Salman. Amir dropped the film Darr and SRK did that. Rest is history...😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: namita_murti

Omshanti, sorry don't know your name. I love reading your posts, they are amazing. u make Nivi & Viren come to life. thanks for that.

hey I am Bani😊..thanks for your reply.

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