Hope all Mumbaikars are fine - Page 4

Originally posted by: jyoti06

No we r not fine here...what a horrible attack it was...I don't want to blame anyone here but I guess the reports hv already proved who is behind all this

My father's clients were staying in Taj hotel and out of them I guess few hv survived and 2 died mayb..a place where even the safest of hotel is not safe now,who wants to now visit the city of dreams...I m really shattered seeing my father breaking down on phone sinse he was very close to his foreign deligates.

I don't want to sound rude but seriously those terrorists$#$#@$@#..can go to hell😡🤢

Originally posted by: hansa

Oh no Jo, that's terrible news. Hope God gives your dad strength and the rest of you, at this tragic time. May those idiots rot in hell!!!😡

First of all, I convey my heartfelt condolences to the family members of those who have been injured and killed. Jyo and hansa I understand ur feelings, and according to the news reports, some Pakistani muslim group of terrorists have been blamed. I was really offended when Jyo said that I don't want to blame anyone here but I guess the reports hv already proved who is behind all this.

What I am trying to say is, just because some Pakistani Muslims are terrorists and promote violence, that doesn't mean that Islam is a religion that promotes violence against non-Muslims. It doesn't promote war or violence, unless it's an emergency. In islam, war is only permitted when non-Muslims or other people attempt an aggression on Muslims or interfere with the faith of Muslims. Well, there are extremist people in these days who are misinterpreting Islam and taking illegal advantage of the permission of war under certain conditions. In the Qur'an it's been strictly forbidden to kill any innocent person. Killing, and violence is only permitted for self-defence or when an individual is being attacked by others for no reason. Please don't blame the Pakistanis or Muslims for this guys. Well, if those terrorists are misinterpreting Islam, then it's their fault. They will go to hell. But other Muslims, Pakistanis, and Islam, are not like them.

The religion has taught its people what its supposed to teach, but why will the religion and other followers be blamed if any one of the followers does something wrong? The same way, when a girl violates her morals and sanskaar, the society blames her mother only, instead of blaming both the mother and father. Why should the mother take all the responsibility of a child's upbringing? Shouldn't the father be equally responsible for the child's upbringing? If the mother tries her best to bring her daughter back to the right path, but is still unsuccessful, due to the daughter's obstinacy, then why would the mother be blamed? It's not her fault! It's the daughter's fault. She has taught her daughter whatever she has to, but what can she do if the daughter is still hell bent on disgracing her prestige?

The same way, when a girl is raped, the society blames her and curses her till she gets fed up of life and commits suicide. They don't understand the fact how the girl feels, and that she was forced. She didn't give her consent. When the society is questioned on why they r humiliating the girl, they say that "taali to tab hi bajti hai, jab humaare dono haat ek saath hote hai." This explains that they are accusing the girl, though it's not her fault. Why shall she be accused, when she didn't give her consent and tried her best to save her dignity, but eventually failed to do so, because of the force applied on her? Shouldn't rapist be blamed for this?The same way, people blame the race and religion when a person does something wrong!!!! Why?!! No culture or religion promotes genocide or mass extermination of people of other religions and races!! Then why do the people have to take the blame for the race or religion they belong to? Why can't they be blamed for the type of people they are? Why???????????? Every single country in this world, and every single religion in this world has good and bad followers. But that doesn't mean the race, the country and the religion should be blamed if a person does something wrong!!

Therefore, guys, please don't get the perception that Islam, Pakistanis, and Muslims promote violence against innocent people. The Qur'an is the biggest proof of Islam and Muslims not being a part of terrorism. Terrorism is a big sin in Islam, and those are involved in it, are nothing but sinners. So, I think we should blame the terrorists because of the type of people they are, not for the religion or race they belong to. I am not taking the side of the terrorists. I strongly oppose their actions and views toward non-muslims and other innocent people. I am just saying, put aside the race and religion they belong to, (because the religion and nationality have no fault) and condemn them for their actions. That's all. I hope I haven't offended anyone. I blurted all this out, because I was quite offended by what Jyo and hansa has said. That's all. Hope you guys understand my feelings.😊

Originally posted by: gambi

First of all, I convey my heartfelt condolences to the family members of those who have been injured and killed. Jyo and hansa I understand ur feelings, and according to the news reports, some Pakistani muslim group of terrorists have been blamed. I was really offended when Jyo said that I don't want to blame anyone here but I guess the reports hv already proved who is behind all this.

What I am trying to say is, just because some Pakistani Muslims are terrorists and promote violence, that doesn't mean that Islam is a religion that promotes violence against non-Muslims. It doesn't promote war or violence, unless it's an emergency. In islam, war is only permitted when non-Muslims or other people attempt an aggression on Muslims or interfere with the faith of Muslims. Well, there are extremist people in these days who are misinterpreting Islam and taking illegal advantage of the permission of war under certain conditions. In the Qur'an it's been strictly forbidden to kill any innocent person. Killing, and violence is only permitted for self-defence or when an individual is being attacked by others for no reason. Please don't blame the Pakistanis or Muslims for this guys. Well, if those terrorists are misinterpreting Islam, then it's their fault. They will go to hell. But other Muslims, Pakistanis, and Islam, are not like them.

The religion has taught its people what its supposed to teach, but why will the religion and other followers be blamed if any one of the followers does something wrong? The same way, when a girl violates her morals and sanskaar, the society blames her mother only, instead of blaming both the mother and father. Why should the mother take all the responsibility of a child's upbringing? Shouldn't the father be equally responsible for the child's upbringing? If the mother tries her best to bring her daughter back to the right path, but is still unsuccessful, due to the daughter's obstinacy, then why would the mother be blamed? It's not her fault! It's the daughter's fault. She has taught her daughter whatever she has to, but what can she do if the daughter is still hell bent on disgracing her prestige?

The same way, when a girl is raped, the society blames her and curses her till she gets fed up of life and commits suicide. They don't understand the fact how the girl feels, and that she was forced. She didn't give her consent. When the society is questioned on why they r humiliating the girl, they say that "taali to tab hi bajti hai, jab humaare dono haat ek saath hote hai." This explains that they are accusing the girl, though it's not her fault. Why shall she be accused, when she didn't give her consent and tried her best to save her dignity, but eventually failed to do so, because of the force applied on her? Shouldn't rapist be blamed for this?The same way, people blame the race and religion when a person does something wrong!!!! Why?!! No culture or religion promotes genocide or mass extermination of people of other religions and races!! Then why do the people have to take the blame for the race or religion they belong to? Why can't they be blamed for the type of people they are? Why???????????? Every single country in this world, and every single religion in this world has good and bad followers. But that doesn't mean the race, the country and the religion should be blamed if a person does something wrong!!

Therefore, guys, please don't get the perception that Islam, Pakistanis, and Muslims promote violence against innocent people. The Qur'an is the biggest proof of Islam and Muslims not being a part of terrorism. Terrorism is a big sin in Islam, and those are involved in it, are nothing but sinners. So, I think we should blame the terrorists because of the type of people they are, not for the religion or race they belong to. I am not taking the side of the terrorists. I strongly oppose their actions and views toward non-muslims and other innocent people. I am just saying, put aside the race and religion they belong to, (because the religion and nationality have no fault) and condemn them for their actions. That's all. I hope I haven't offended anyone. I blurted all this out, because I was quite offended by what Jyo and hansa has said. That's all. Hope you guys understand my feelings.😊

Hang on Gambi, what exactly did I say???????? I only said - may those idiots rot in hell. By that I meant the gunmen who shot down poor innocent people. That's ALL I said. Where have I said anything about Muslims or Islam? I have so many Muslim friends and uncles and aunts, I would never even dream of saying anything against that religion. Why, even the hero of the novel that I'm currently writing is Muslim.

My heartfelt condolences to the families of persons killed and taken hostage.

Well, I didn't have any intention to offend anyone here. I was confused by Jyo's first sentence. If she had directly said that the terrorist groups operating in Pakistan are the ones who should be blamed, then I wouldn't have taken it seriously at all. And Hansa, my intention was not to accuse or offend you, but since you were supporting Jyo, it made me think that you are also blaming the Pakistanis. But now, that you have clarified everything, it's absolutely fine. 😃I have no complains against anyone.😃

Originally posted by: gambi

Well, I didn't have any intention to offend anyone here. I was confused by Jyo's first sentence. If she had directly said that the terrorist groups operating in Pakistan are the ones who should be blamed, then I wouldn't have taken it seriously at all. And Hansa, my intention was not to accuse or offend you, but since you were supporting Jyo, it made me think that you are also blaming the Pakistanis. But now, that you have clarified everything, it's absolutely fine. 😃I have no complains against anyone.😃